You guys should check out the EBC Yellows though. Check out EBC's website and you will definitely see that the Yellows are more tuned for our type of car. Heavy weights, higher temps than the Reds. They are used in a couple of racing series and I have a set on my Cayenne Turbo S w/380mm front / 356mm rear rotors and I drive it aggressively and they are quite good. I have Reds on my little Audi tt but will definitely swap to the Yellows next time or maybe even before the Reds are used up. The Reds would be fine if it was a standard daily driver but they are not meant for higher performance use for our Type A personalities