faults 17746 and 16825 caused a check engine light tonight...what does that mean??

[bakes]

searched but not much on the forum....any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

Is the car safe to drive??

[hahnmgh63]

Camshaft Position Sensor (G40)-17746, which Bank? EVAP Emission Control Sys: Incorrect Flow-16825, most likely N80 valve but could be a bad hose, N115 valve but most likely N80 valve. CEL? Did you find these with Vagcom? Clear them and drive the car and see if they both come back right away or not.

[kruat]

Also check for a loose gas cap on the EVAP fault. But, 9 times out of 10 it's the N80 valve as hahnmgh63 said.

[Bigglezworth]

searched but not much on the forum....any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

Is the car safe to drive??

17746 - Camshaft Position Sensor (G40): Open or Short to Plus Possible Symptoms

Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) active
Possible Causes

Camshaft Position Sensor (G40) faulty
Wiring/Connectors from/to Camshaft Position Sensor (G40) faulty
Possible Solutions

Check Camshaft Adjustment
Check Camshaft Position Sensor (G40)
Check Wiring/Connectors from/to Camshaft Position Sensor (G40)

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16825 - EVAP Emission Control Sys: Incorrect Flow
Possible Symptoms

Malfunction Indicator Light (MIL) active
Possible Causes

Evaporative Emission (EVAP) Canister Purge Regulator Valve (N80) faulty/jammed
Evaporative Emission (EVAP) Canister Purge Solenoid Valve (N115) faulty/jammed
Evaporative Emission (EVAP) Canister Sealing faulty
Pipes between Tank Breathing and Throttle Body leaky/blocked
Possible Solutions

Check Evaporative Emission (EVAP) Canister Purge Regulator Valve (N80)

Perform Output Test

Check Evaporative Emission (EVAP) Canister Purge Solenoid Valve (N115)
heck Evaporative Emission (EVAP) Canister

Perform Basic Setting

Check Pipes between Tank Breathing and Throttle Body
Special Notes

Make sure the quick release lines for the N80 valve and vacuum line to LDP are not crossed.

This can also make the engine hard to start after filling up the fuel tank.

[mrdave]

I've been dealing with a 16825 "Incorrect Flow" on my C5 S6 for the last few months and I don't think I've solved it yet. First tried a new gas cap and that didn't help. Then tried replacing all of the crumbling braided vacuum lines and that didn't help, although it was definitely needed. Then tried a new N80 and that didn't help either. Then tried spraying WD40 in the N80 (per this thread) and that seemed to help for a while but the MIL popped up again a couple weeks ago. I verified all of the lines aren't plugged and the charcoal canister seemed ok (best I could tell) so I'm not sure what to do next.

Throwing darts at a wall I got a new "pancake" / PCV valve last week and that helped with a knocking noise I was getting at idle but I'm not yet sure if it will help with the MIL. I may still try another N80 valve in case the new one I got is defective.

Edit: also, this guy had an interesting theory related to the gas tank rollover valve recall: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...n-repair-P0441

[bakes]

Thanks for all of the responses!! I did get these codes using Vagcom. I'll have to check when I get home what bank the first code is related to.

I've cleared all of the codes last night and drove into work with no issues. The car is running fine and I was surprised when I looked down the other day and noticed the check engine symbol.

Let's see if the check engine is retriggered in the next few days.

Thanks again!

Greg

[bakes]

same codes have appeared again tonight. will reset and see if they occur again.

[mrdave]

i solved the 16825 on my S6 by removing and thoroughly cleaning out the N80 with PB Blaster and WD40 on my bench while cycling it with a 12v battery. I also installed this filter (per this AZ thread) in-line before the N80, and I haven't had the code return since Oct.

[bakes]

thanks. will try that!

i solved the 16825 on my S6 by removing and thoroughly cleaning out the N80 with PB Blaster and WD40 on my bench while cycling it with a 12v battery. I also installed this filter (per this AZ thread) in-line before the N80, and I haven't had the code return since Oct.