a Audi R8 V12 TDI will no surprice for me if it come's.
The black R8 in the video clip can be a V12 TDI allredy.
The engine make's a different sound and make the impression it's not high reffing.
If a Q7 V12 TDI can do 0-100 Km/h in 5.5 sec's think what a R8 can do, 4.6/4.8 sec's.
Hans.
Or even less than 4,6. The Q7 with that engine weight about 2,5 tons, but the R8 won't be more than 1,5 ton!!!I think that V12 TDI R8 could do it in 4 sec.!Originally posted by Iceman
If a Q7 V12 TDI can do 0-100 Km/h in 5.5 sec's think what a R8 can do, 4.6/4.8 sec's.
Contrary to comments in other posts, that the new diesel V-12 won't make it into the R8, it is looking increasingly likely that Audi will put such an engine in this car. When we're increasingly made to feel guilty about driving thirsty performance cars, a supercar that does 25 mpg is exactly what people want. Audi has been highly responsive to customer needs by putting this engine in the Q7, so it would be logical and sensible to put in the R8, A6 and A8. (I bet it will also appear in a Bentley.)
If Audi puts its new V-12 diesel in the R8 - and I sincerely hope they do - it should be capable of doing 0-100 kph in 3.9 seconds. Even if it only does it in 4.6 seconds, it will still be an incredible car. It will certainly be the definitive high-tech sports car.
The only problem with this is Lamborghini. What will be the point of a thirstier, more expensive V-12 petrol engine alternative when you have a sublime V-12 diesel?
I guess Audi will charge a small fortune for it: £80,000 plus.
Aston MArtin V8 Vantage of Audi R8? Difficult decision.
not for meOriginally posted by tailpipe
Aston MArtin V8 Vantage of Audi R8? Difficult decision.
not for me
Me either!!
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The only problem with this is Lamborghini. What will be the point of a thirstier, more expensive V-12 petrol engine alternative when you have a sublime V-12 diesel?
I don't think this will be a problem. Havn't heard the V12 Diesel but I doubt it will match the spine tiggling sound of a Lambo V12. :bigeyes:
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IMHO the Aston does not even match the RS4....
I already have an aston (AMV8) mark on my side door together with numerous Porsches and one F360!!!
I admit that the aston is sex on wheels!!! there is no other car that can match to those looks..... but the performance is lausy for that money, I'd go F430 a million times. On the other hand the Aston looks soo good....
Why having to choose? I'll get them both! Anyone to borrow me some cash? How about 450 k euro?
You obviously haven't driven the Aston-Martin V8.Originally posted by MR USER
IMHO the Aston does not even match the RS4....
...the performance is lousy for that money...
As fars as I know, the RS4 has not yet beaten the Aston-Martin V8's Nurburgring lap time of 8:10 seconds. You are also probably unaware that a stock V8 Vantage recently competed in the Nurburgring Endurance race coming 24th overall and 4th in class - against proper race-spec cars. Of course, raw horsepower and straightline speed simply don't tell the whole story.
By any objective standard, the design of the Vantage is as uncompromised as you'll find anywhere. For a start, it is a perfectly balanced car. The driving experience in terms of steering feel, ride and handling are beyond anything I've encountered in any other car.
This is an extremely focused sports machine in a way that the RS4 is not. The Aston talks to you through your hands, through the seat of your pants and through all of your other senses.
I don't know which car would be quicker point-to-pointon a wet day, but I know which would be more fun. And isn't that what cars at this level are all about?
The cockpit of the Aston is simply on another plane. Beautifully designed and wonderfully made with the best materials, it is a special place to be in a way that few other cars can equal.
One other small and possibly irrelevant point, but the fuel economy of the Aston on a long journey is 20-30% better than that of the RS4.
For me, an RS4 is car you buy and keep for a few years. But an Aston is a car you buy and keep forever.
Last edited by tailpipe; September 12th, 2006 at 20:50.
I agree with you in many of the points you mentioned.
It is a wonderful car as long as it does not have reliability problems and in he past Astons had many (don't know about the last 4-5 years as we did not get anymore). On the look and sound of the car I share with you your passion.
In terms of absolute figures you probably are correct.
There is somenthing you forget, when you talk about cars like the aston and higher specs what matter the most is the optional behind the steering.... There is where you find most of the problems of any performance car!!! wouldn't you agree?
Almost forgot for the same money of the AMV8 and aiming at performances I would still choose a million times the F430!!!
With several details from Volvo...Originally posted by tailpipe
...The cockpit of the Aston is simply on another plane. Beautifully designed and wonderfully made with the best materials, it is a special place to be in a way that few other cars can equal.
That, I don't like.
I would definitely go for a 997 carrera S rather than the Aston for its "aura", built quality, perfs, etc... The Aston is great no doubt but what about long term reliability and price in 2-3 years time. Is it really worth its price ? no shure
Well it's my own opinion.
As much as I like the Aston, I agree with comments about the Ferrari F430. It is the definitive sports car, a beast beyond words.
That said, I am warming to the R8. If it does get a proper DSG box - like the one from the Veyron - and the V-12 TDI then it will be a truly sublime machine.
Sorry, but Porsches just don't do it for me. people complain about the TT being a rebodied Golf, but i see the 911 as a rebodied Beetle - a design that is almost 70 years old! To be fair on Porsche, they have taken it way beyond anything ever imagined by the original car, but as a purist i just hate having an engine mounted behind the rear axle.
I think i said this elsewhere, but the R8 is a car porsche should have built 20 years ago. Piech santioned the Le Mans and other fast Audi concepts, such as the Avus and Rosemeyer cars, to make this very point.
The R8 is a brave car and deserves to succeed. in the final analysis, its fate will depend on its price.
Couldn't agree more. If I were in this market I'd have a 997. If I was brave and could deal with a bit of unrealiability, I would NOT go for the Aston, but for the Maserati GranSport.I would definitely go for a 997 carrera S rather than the Aston for its "aura", built quality, perfs, etc... The Aston is great no doubt but what about long term reliability and price in 2-3 years time. Is it really worth its price ? no shure
Oh and the interior is exactly the same as in the DB9 is it not? Which IMHO is the better looking car on the outside also.
I know of at least two people who have had the Aston V8 and have now sold them because of growing tired of various glitches. However, they were both sold for list price, even having covered about 10k miles each. Can't argue with that!
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Everybody has its own opinion. Porsche is a myth and has been at the top of the sports cars segment for years. Porsches are just great lookingOriginally posted by tailpipe
As much as I like the Aston, I agree with comments about the Ferrari F430. It is the definitive sports car, a beast beyond words.
Sorry, but Porsches just don't do it for me. people complain about the TT being a rebodied Golf, but i see the 911 as a rebodied Beetle - a design that is almost 70 years old! To be fair on Porsche, they have taken it way beyond anything ever imagined by the original car, but as a purist i just hate having an engine mounted behind the rear axle.
The R8 is a brave car and deserves to succeed. in the final analysis, its fate will depend on its price.. This is like a Rolex : same shape over the last 40-50 years and still number one
The back pack engine is just part of the Porsche Myth and a philosophy. Very funny to drive and giving you a hell of adherence and motricity.
The R8 looks very promising but will never reach the Porsche aura and driving feeling.
Last edited by Fab; September 13th, 2006 at 11:29.
Originally posted by Fab
Everybody has its own opinion. Porsche is a myth and has been at the top of the sports cars segment for years. Porsches are just great looking
The back pack engine is just part of the Porsche Myth and a philosophy. Very funny to drive and giving you a hell of adherence and motricity.
The R8 looks very promising but will never reach the Porsche aura and driving feeling.
Porsche, all the way...!!!
I'm with you!
Porsche, all the way...!!!
GT3
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