just had the car dynoed in NH. and they tried it different by dynoing it in 4th gear. now ive heard both 3rd and 4th. but this is proof lol. the weather yesterday was mid 20s with snow. and it put down 389.5 and 412 tq. but if u remember in 3rd it put down 381 and 455 tq in 70s. lol. just food for thought.