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    Sensor mounting location in the MT housing is shifted by the same angle.
    You should be good.

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    Ahhh, fantastic! I don't have a manual trans in front of me yet, so didn't even consider that as a possible scenario!

    Your quick reply is much appreciated so I'm not worrying about figuring this out all day!

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    So I'm on to the next issue that I knew I'd need to deal with and hopefully the answer is as easy as I think it is...I'd rather figure this out now while I have easy access to the harness if needed for some surgery before it goes back in the car.

    I've done the SAI delete with the block off plates, vacuum line loop/cap, and have the updated tune from Nubcake (thank you!) for it. Now, as many of you have probably seen, or maybe don't want to see...the wires running the power and ground for the SAI pump have an extremely brittle sheathing, I'm guessing from heat over the years. Both the power and ground wires have the sheathing crumbling off all the way through the harness up to the fuse block. Most people with the SAI delete could just unplug it and let it hang, but I'll have major issues if I do that and the SAI is triggered through the relay to get power for some reason. Long story short, can I just pull the big orange 40 amp fuse and call it a day? From what I see, you have the power coming into the harness from the white block at the ECU box, then jumping over to the SAI only 40a fuse block, then jumping over to the relay, and then the power wire out of the relay to the harness end is what is disintegrated. Only that wire and the associated ground wire are like this...must be an old hangup from earlier VW's...they were notorious for ground wires disintegrating inside of the sheathing and wreaking havoc with ground problems everywhere.

    So, pull the fuse and all is good with the SAI delete tune? Y or N? Thanks for your thoughts! I'd love not to have to cut that harness apart! Thanks Jolio for donating your semi cut spare for my dissection experiment!

    Power in from largest red wire here...



    Jumps to fuse block here...



    And red/black tracer jumps to relay here...



    And shinier red wire that is disintegrating out from relay to SAI connector...




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    Quote Originally Posted by Muggy View Post

    CPS window where my finger is...



    Any thoughts, comments, and insight welcomed, thanks!
    Is your crank timing pin inserted? I may be wrong, but if I remember correctly the timing window on the flywheel should be at 10-11 o'clock? If you look at where the 01e CPS is located, it almost looks like you're 180 degree's off timing, (assuming the timing pin is installed)

    20201228_161106 by Joel Francisco

    Maybe someone else will chime in, just something I noticed

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    Thanks Joel,
    I appreciate your thoughts...crank lock pin is in. As I mentioned, I used a faint ghost dot on the back of the flywheel that matched up to that extra hole on the end of the crank to install where yours was. It is 180 off from the sensor, but my main concern I guess was that the window didn't match up to the auto version, which makes sense now that the sensor is in a different spot on the bell housing...close, but about an hour north of the auto location. This would correspond to the different window location, albeit 180 off right now. I'll fiddle some more today...I haven't locked the flywheel down yet, as I wanted to confirm location first!

    I appreciate your input, and anyone else that wants to check in!

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    Amazingly enough, more progress today! I decided to tackle the joyous job of adjusting the oil and coolant line by the starter. As expected, it was a finicky thing to work with, but I'm happy with what I came up with...







    And a test alignment of the starter...



    And just a reminder for input on the crank position sensor window at about 4:00...as Nubcake pointed out, I'm fine on the shift of the window from 2:00 to 4:00 for the auto-manual swap, but just want to confirm that I'm in the right position at 4:00 with the crank lock pin in so I can lock it down and move on (since there are no positioning dowels/keyways, etc.)... and also if I can just yank the fuse for the SAI pump and call it a day on that issue. Much appreciated!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muggy View Post
    Thanks Joel,
    I appreciate your thoughts...crank lock pin is in. As I mentioned, I used a faint ghost dot on the back of the flywheel that matched up to that extra hole on the end of the crank to install where yours was. It is 180 off from the sensor, but my main concern I guess was that the window didn't match up to the auto version, which makes sense now that the sensor is in a different spot on the bell housing...close, but about an hour north of the auto location. This would correspond to the different window location, albeit 180 off right now. I'll fiddle some more today...I haven't locked the flywheel down yet, as I wanted to confirm location first!

    I appreciate your input, and anyone else that wants to check in!
    Ok, just a follow up on this and to put it on the record for anyone searching for this...there is only one way to install the flywheel on the 10 bolt crank. There is the offset tapped hole (not a crank bolt hole) that indicates where there will be a slightly larger gap in the flywheel bolt spacing...making it a one position only situation to get all 10 bolts in. I was worried as I just put a couple in to hang the crank for a test fit, but then rotated to match where it had been aligned by Joel on his install (faint ghost mark on the back of the fly to match that offset hole). Turns out that when I did this, it was in the correct position and I stuck all 10 bolts in. If I hadn't rotated it from the test hang and tried to put in all 10 bolts, I would have figured this out pretty quickly...

    With all of my reading, I found info on the 8 bolt 2.7t cranks that said you could install in a couple of positions and was worried that I could be in the same situation, but no worries on the 10 bolt...one way only!

    Slightly wider gap here at my finger (where the offset hole is behind the fly)...



    And this positions the trigger window at about 4:00 with the crank lock pin in, which is about 180 degrees (approx) from the CPS.



    The auto box trigger window is at about 2:00...and the difference in angle is due to the different position of the CPS on the 01E (thanks Nubcake for confirming)....

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    Well....looks like the photo hosting service that I've been using for 20 years (Fototime) took a crap on me...just went black now for more than a week...real bummer as I find past threads with photos very instructional and entertaining, and created this thread to be just that for others looking for info and inspiration. At least Photosukit gave people the opportunity to pay a ransom and buy into a paid service...

    I may try to re-populate with pics from the new host, but in the meantime, if anyone coming across this wants pics, I still have them and will re-upload at some point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muggy View Post
    Well....looks like the photo hosting service that I've been using for 20 years (Fototime) took a crap on me...just went black now for more than a week...real bummer as I find past threads with photos very instructional and entertaining, and created this thread to be just that for others looking for info and inspiration. At least Photosukit gave people the opportunity to pay a ransom and buy into a paid service...

    I may try to re-populate with pics from the new host, but in the meantime, if anyone coming across this wants pics, I still have them and will re-upload at some point.
    That sucks. If you get time, I would love to see the pics again. After the photobucket saga, I started using imgur. But photobucket scarred me, and now I don't trust that anyone will be around long-term anymore. Imgur's been good so far though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jibberjive View Post
    That sucks. If you get time, I would love to see the pics again. After the photobucket saga, I started using imgur. But photobucket scarred me, and now I don't trust that anyone will be around long-term anymore. Imgur's been good so far though.
    Thanks...this gives me a push to get it done...I'm using ImgBB now as a trial...seems to be working pretty well.
    Now if I can just find the "edit" option to re-add links...maybe it's too early in the morning...4:00 wake up today...the one day in the last month that I can actually sleep in with no alarm...

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    Scored a nice set of RS4 wheels...decent enough shape and rubber to tool around town for a trial fit. If I'm happy, I'll have them redone and re-skinned...I've always loved this style and found a set for a great deal and local so no shipping hassles/expense. No curb rash and seem to be nice and straight...not too much weight on for balancing which is always a good sign and came off of a running RS4 clone car that the PO swapped to Rotors instead. Finish is a good 5-footer...plenty of blems in a mediocre repaint, but seem to be good candidates for a full refinish if I so choose.





    Also got the word that I should be seeing my trans on the back of a truck by the end of the week!
    Can't wait to make some real progress....

    And the look that I'm going for with the new to me rollers...photo picked from a BAT listing a couple of years ago but matches my color and wheel combo...I won't be quite this low since I'm static on Bilstiens and H&R springs...



    Last edited by Muggy; April 13th, 2021 at 10:32.

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