Fuel Tank Leak and dont knoe what the part is. - Please help

[LaserSVT]

So I have had this leak from my tank that I noticed the first time I filled up. Thought it was the level senders hat seal as that's where it was soaked. Well I replaced it and its just as bad if not worse. Checking it today I can see the leak is coming from a vent seal on the front edge of the tank. I am already dreading dropping the tank but I cant seem to find the part or what it is called or a part number.

I do have an Audi diagram and it shows it, just no part number. Please can someone identify this? I circled the part in red.

[lswing]

Here's a long list of info, site:rs6.com fuel tank leak, google that. If you get a porn link or other crap just use your back then forward browser buttons and it will take you to rs6.com.

Think you can get in there by removing the back seats right? This was under recall for a while, started by a member on here.

[LaserSVT]

Dhall says that parts the rollover valve. I called Audi and told them and have an appointment for Wed. Of course they don't believe what I say and want to look for themselves and if there is no TSB or recall then its $130 for diagnostics but I can see EXACTLY where its leaking and know everyone says there is a recall on it so I am not too worried. Sad thing is the closest dealer is 110 miles away.

[SteveKen]

Do whatever you can to get them to replace the tank and not just try to repair it with epoxy. It's impossible to get the area clean enough for the epoxy to work and it will eventually leak again.

[LaserSVT]

Do whatever you can to get them to replace the tank and not just try to repair it with epoxy. It's impossible to get the area clean enough for the epoxy to work and it will eventually leak again.

Unfortunately that is not going to happen. Dave said I should call AOA customer service and log it so its in their system and to ease the transaction at the dealer. AOA informed me they sent a notice in 2008 and the car was brought in sometime in 2011. Now in 2010 the car was brought in for an EVAP code but does not say what was done. I know these code when the tank is low enough for that valve to suck air in or blow out, whatever. So I kinda think the car was leaking then just not much. So they do the recall in 2011 but I can clearly see it was the epoxy/foam crap. If I understand the recall correctly if its already leaking the tank is supposed to be replaced. If it is not leaking they are just supposed to goo it up. At any rate they gouped it. So since the recall was performed they refuse to do it again. I was very polite and did not argue with the gentleman but pointed out that the "fix" didnt "fix" it and shouldn't the recall be performed correctly? I was simply told they already did it and wont again. So that was that.
Saved me the 100 mile trip to the Audi dealer for something they wouldnt do or would charge me ...., I donno, $1700 to fix? Seems the tanks are $1300 give or take. So what am I to do? I guess i will kill another weekend on the car, drop the entire rear suspension and then the tank, clean off all the glue and crud and then plastic weld it and maybe put an extra coat of JB Weld liquid style to help keep it stiff. There is a nice shop by me that sells the irons and material and allow me to do what some others did.

These are not my pictures but with my borescope this is what I saw on mine today:
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With the iron and since the tank is high-density polyetheline they should have the right rods on hand. When I am done it would be more like this:

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[hahnmgh63]

Send the pic and all to NHTSA and call the Audi number Dave gave you and tell them your turning it in. A botched repair that is a safety hazard and your local dealer doesn't care.

[LaserSVT]

Local dealer cares. She was trying to set up a tow trucks and making sure I wasnt going to drive it because she was worried about my safety and the car being hurt. She was very nice and even cleared someone out to get me in right away. It was AoA that said they dont care. I called again to try and get an exact date of when the recall was performed and nobody could give me an answer. Recall issued June 2011, car failed emissions in April 2011 and then passed in May 2011 and no other issues since then.

[Other_Erik]

Local dealer cares. She was trying to set up a tow trucks and making sure I wasnt going to drive it because she was worried about my safety and the car being hurt. She was very nice and even cleared someone out to get me in right away. It was AoA that said they dont care. I called again to try and get an exact date of when the recall was performed and nobody could give me an answer. Recall issued June 2011, car failed emissions in April 2011 and then passed in May 2011 and no other issues since then.

While it's at the dealership, ask them for a service record summary via email, or barring that, a paper copy included with the car when it's brought back to you.

As the owner of the vehicle you're entitled to a copy of summarized repairs (warranty, recall, and other) that's been scrubbed of previous owner's identifiable data. I had a hard time with this until I called the Audi Flagship desk (Phone number coming to you via PM momentarily)

O_E

[DHall1]

I fear some us with low mileage RS6s that have not run into these tanks will be left out.

The recall does jack squat just like the E55 recall on the tanks. It finally took a class action and years of fighting to make MB step up.

That said, AOA has been much better about replacing tanks but for how long?

Yes call Audi back and report to nhtsa.

Send the pic and all to NHTSA and call the Audi number Dave gave you and tell them your turning it in. A botched repair that is a safety hazard and your local dealer doesn't care.

[LaserSVT]

While it's at the dealership, ask them for a service record summary via email, or barring that, a paper copy included with the car when it's brought back to you.

As the owner of the vehicle you're entitled to a copy of summarized repairs (warranty, recall, and other) that's been scrubbed of previous owner's identifiable data. I had a hard time with this until I called the Audi Flagship desk (Phone number coming to you via PM momentarily)

O_E

Thank you

[LaserSVT]

I am not bringing it to the dealer. No sense driving 100+ miles each way (so over 400 total) for then to say "Yup, that's the problem but AoA isn't going to pay for it so that's $130 diagnostics please or $1600 if you want it fixed."

I just called the dealer and the service writer lady has been so nice and helpful. She spoke to their tech and they said that it should be covered due to the original fix not working but if AoA says no than there is nothing they can do.

[LaserSVT]

Well this got stranger. A lady called me up from AoA today. As luck would have it I was stuck under a Merc drilling out a dang rotor retaining screw that had been stripped so I did not hear my phone. Was a message from a nice lady named Megan saying she was *and the phone beeps from incoming call* and the issue has been escalated two levels and that she would like to have the car towed to the nearest dealer and waive the diagnostics on *phone beeps* and did I still have an appointment for North Houston Audi (no because it was North Austin Audi) or is the car there already and can I please call her back at 248-754 *phone beeps* (AARRRRGGHHHHHH!) Again, this is Megan from Audi here is your service number XXXXXXXXX and my number is 248-754 *phone beeps* *almost gets thrown into wall*. So I just called back the toll free number that came in and at least got her voice mail and left a message. That was at quarter after 1 and she said she was there until 5 but I never heard back.
Hope its good news but the lack of a return call makes me think they changed their minds. LOL

[Bigglezworth]

Patience. It will get sorted out...

[LaserSVT]

Patience. It will get sorted out...

Currently I am on active standby and just see what happens. Last night after I spoke to the first guy at AoA I decided to call again to try and get some dates for the service because some things just didn't add up. Plus the first guy was really cocky and rude. So I got a nice lady, forgot her name, and she helped as well as she could with dates but wasn't really understanding the issue. She was as helpful and friendly as can be but really couldn't do much.
So I called them again today and the gentleman I got was just the person I needed. He let me explain in detail the issue and how I came to the conclusion of the fix being improper. He understood the issue and is an RS6 fan and knows the cars as well. He agreed that something needed to be done and let me know that its been escalated one level and then put me on hold for a few moments and then said hes pushed it through to anther level and head management has it now. Okay, seems we are getting somewhere.
Two hours latter is when I got the call from Megan and the message gave me hope. Of course there is that other voice in the back of my head saying "They will keep it for a month and confirm your diagnosis and not fix it but at least your stereo will be stolen."

[DHall1]

My wifes AMG took 3 gas tanks and it still leaked. MB were complete idiots and told me to pound sand.... but finally after years of leaks....they took care of all E class sedans.

Audi has a history of taking care of flagship vehicles without the hassle.

You see now what sit in my garage. Wife will never step foot on a MB lot or drive another AMG. Way to go MB!!!!! Customer service at its best. Ha

[LaserSVT]

Ya know thats the first time I noticed your signature, You do have an Audi problem! LOL

PS, thanks again for all the help. Everyone here has been just so great at helping me find what I need and encouraging me enough to get the motivation to keep at her.

I just hope that after all this is done she will allow me just do to oil changes, tire rotations and add gas for a year.

[LaserSVT]

Patience. It will get sorted out...

Well Megan of AoA called me back today to get a tow truck to me and arrange for a car while mine is down and said the dealer would get in touch with me today to schedule. They will be picking it up tomorrow. The service writer seemed a tad aggravated because of the email and being told to just do it and make sure I have a car. I told her a few jokes and was very cordial in hopes to loosen her up. It worked. Wasn't sure how to write it up or how to get reimbursed or how to get me car and all that. We got the same email from the higher ups and I pointed out it does say she will be called from headquarters to be reimbursed for the tow, the diagnostics and rental car and they requested pictures and recommendations for repair and then would give their ruling. So I will continue to be on active standby.

[canyon]

The 20L8 or JY recall was done to prevent this issue. If it was done and there is still a leak, then Audi will have to replace the fuel tank. I have seen it done multiple times.