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    For all those eager to have 380's on the front and larger discs on the rear, I have to ask you - Just what exactly are you doing with your cars to necessitate this much brake?? Are you tracking it? Are you driving 250km/h+ and hitting the binders to keep from ploughing into the rear of a slower moving vehicle (i.e. what would occur on the Autobahn). IF neither, then just where exactly are the massive OEM set-up falling short for you? I have tracked my car many a time and had to perform the odd 225 km/h stop as part of passing a line of cars, but never have I had an experience whereupon the OEM set-up fell short (even for such a tank of a car). Good brake fluid along with a good quality set of pads eliminates brake fade.
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    For the most part I'd have to agree although I've always like to have a car that was over braked. Although since initial bit of the OEM with good aftermarket pads can't really be beaten, and heat sink is the only thing your really going to get from a bigger kit, then the Phaeton brake duct kit is what you should do first if you haven't. It will really help, even with track speeds to increase cooling without really increasing weight.
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    I'm gonna have to look up this pheaton brake duct mod. And, I think the stock brakes on these cars are great, but then I don't track it or drive super hard very often.
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    I'm tracking my car hard, but I can't have bigger than 365mm because of all my 18" wheels i'm using so I don't want bigger,
    I only want to know which 365mm discs is best for hard tracking.

    RS6 Zimmerman?
    Phaeton?
    RS5?
    or?

    So front brakes worked fine, but now I need new discs.


    However in the rear I have had problems with RBF600 brake fluid boils! I'll have to change it after every tracking day, So in the rear I would be happy if I found bigger discs and brake calipers.
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    For the rear i'll be using 4 or 6 piston calipers from Ceika (probably 4 piston with a bigger rotor)

    They're developing a incorporated ebrake option for our C5 cars/rs5-rs6

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    Waiting on pricing for a few differen't options. But it's close to just the rotor prices alone for the stock stuff.....

    M5 BMW guys have gave them great reviews so i'm down to try them and get some black calipers to match the front
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    Yes Ceika looks good.

    But it will cost $1,612.00

    For 356x28 full-floating with 4 piston with hand brake and racing pads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RS8 View Post
    Yes Ceika looks good.

    But it will cost $1,612.00

    For 356x28 full-floating with 4 piston with hand brake and racing pads.
    Considering that's not even the cost of 4 Zimmermans with Hawk HPC pads, I'd highly consider that.

    Meanwhile, I traded a pair of front Zimm's for a pair of front RS5 Wavey rotors, and picked up JHM 2-piece rears. Next time I have to do fronts will probably end up going with JHM 2-piece, but couldn't justify the extra $300 it would've cost this time around (even though I would've saved about that much next time around)

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    Did you read the thread regarding potential JHM issues? I wouldn't touch them until more reports on what was occurring surface.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lswing View Post
    Did you read the thread regarding potential JHM issues? I wouldn't touch them until more reports on what was occurring surface.
    That's for the front, wonder if the rears will have the same issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by s8prtotype View Post
    That's for the front, wonder if the rears will have the same issues.
    That's what I was getting at, his idea of purchasing the fronts. With a mix of issues and mis-claimed weight savings, I just can't imagine purchasing them myself. Now for the rears not being under the same level of stress maybe they'll hold up better, who knows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RS8 View Post
    I'm tracking my car hard, but I can't have bigger than 365mm because of all my 18" wheels i'm using so I don't want bigger,
    I only want to know which 365mm discs is best for hard tracking.

    RS6 Zimmerman?
    Phaeton?
    RS5?
    or?

    So front brakes worked fine, but now I need new discs.


    However in the rear I have had problems with RBF600 brake fluid boils! I'll have to change it after every tracking day, So in the rear I would be happy if I found bigger discs and brake calipers.



    Dude. I had the same problem and tracked the shit out my rs6. Even with good pads I set mine on fire at Watkins. I upgraded to movit setup years ago and was very pleased with the results. After many friction rings and tires, I just upgraded to their full carbon carbon setup for this season. I am having the old setup refurbished by them and about to put up for sale if you are interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilovegt100 View Post
    Dude. I had the same problem and tracked the shit out my rs6. Even with good pads I set mine on fire at Watkins. I upgraded to movit setup years ago and was very pleased with the results. After many friction rings and tires, I just upgraded to their full carbon carbon setup for this season. I am having the old setup refurbished by them and about to put up for sale if you are interested.
    But I heard the RS6 is no good on the track...great to hear you taking it out for some proper flogging. It may be nose heavy, but damn fun to drive fast. Post up some pics and info of your setup if you get the chance, cheers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RS8 View Post


    However in the rear I have had problems with RBF600 brake fluid boils! I'll have to change it after every tracking day, So in the rear I would be happy if I found bigger discs and brake calipers.
    That's hot, very. FWIW, there is a high temp race brake fluid made by Amsoil. It's kinda spendy... ( wholesale prices at www.oiloregon.com )
    Might help?
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    Soo have we figured out if any particular wavy rears are a direct bolt on? About to do some brake changes but only want the wavy rotors if I can have them at all four corners with no mods.
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    In regards to the last post, I soon need to replace my rear rotors. Has anyone successfully installed rs5 wave rotors on the rear. If so I would appreciate guidance on doing this in regards to parts needed, like spacing, if not a direct fit

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    I have not touched the rear at all yet, but at this time I still think you need to do the 356mm rs7 rotor in the back for it to be worthwhile (if you're wanting to match the wavy fronts) as it's actually an upgrade. stock is 335mm right??

    You'll have to play with caliper spacing... it's been done by one guy already but i think he just used something he made on his own.
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