I'm surprised that some 1st impressions are Ho hum. That said 450chp is no longer a chest thumper. But the beauty of this platform is just a flash(cheap enough to do) brings out a decent amount of power. Add some filters, and gut pre cats, better DV's and the car can scream. Or u can go my route, and trust me, I have a stage 2 cts-V, my rs6 is faster. This car 60-120 will scare the shite out of a lot drivers, it's immediate.