Crazy new diesel from BMW.

**Ruergard** · November 24th, 2011, 06:57

I like!

**Z07** · November 24th, 2011, 17:11

Adequate torque.

**Amar** · November 24th, 2011, 20:41

That is pre remap torque, I want this car.

**Ruergard** · November 25th, 2011, 08:03

Yes. I'm glad that BMW has understood the point of awd in this car.

**Erik** · November 25th, 2011, 10:30

The real M5...?

**artur777** · November 25th, 2011, 13:42

I like this diesel
after chip tuning it will be crazy fast

**RXBG** · November 25th, 2011, 14:11

i'd wait till the first mod year has come out and gone before buying- much less chip tuning- such a thing. when it works it'll pull like a locomotive. i'd like to see it go against the S6.

**Joker** · November 25th, 2011, 20:16

I bet it will do the 0-60 and 0-100 times in 4.7s and 11.5s respectively, hardly S6 material but still stellar for a diesel.

**AndyBG** · November 29th, 2011, 22:49

So, BMW releasing 3.0l, six cil' ''trhee turbo'' engine, while Audi still doesen't have bi-turbo 3.0 V6...

**Amar** · November 29th, 2011, 22:59

They do have a twin turbo 3.0 diesel now, they finally caught up, then BMW moved the game on again.

**Z07** · December 2nd, 2011, 12:40

BMW 640d

309hp at 4400rpm
465lbft at 1500-2500rpm

**Marv** · December 3rd, 2011, 09:20

How does Audi follow this? I can't imagine packaging 3 turbos into a v6 is easy - BMW has the advantage of an inline 6 here. Also, I'd always take a lighter 3 turbo 6 cylinder over a v8 any day.

By the way, does anyone know if the new 5 series xDrive will come to the UK in right-hand-drive?

Marv

**AndyBG** · December 4th, 2011, 02:21

I just realised this...

Audi A6 3.0 TDI - (3.0l, V6 turbo, 245 hp, 500 Nm)
Audi A6 3.0 TDI - (3.0l, V6 bi-turbo, 313 hp, 500 Nm)
BMW 530d - (3.0l, R6 turbo, 258 hp, 540 Nm)
BMW 535d - (3.0l, R6 bi-turbo, 313 hp, 630 Nm)
Merc' E 350 CDI - (3.0l, V6, 265 hp, 620 Nm)

Is it possible that Audis engine has this tourque disadvantage over rivals...?

**chewym** · December 4th, 2011, 06:34

Originally Posted by AndyBG

I just realised this...

Audi A6 3.0 TDI - (3.0l, V6 turbo, 245 hp, 500 Nm)
Audi A6 3.0 TDI - (3.0l, V6 bi-turbo, 313 hp, 500 Nm)
BMW 530d - (3.0l, R6 turbo, 258 hp, 540 Nm)
BMW 535d - (3.0l, R6 bi-turbo, 313 hp, 630 Nm)
Merc' E 350 CDI - (3.0l, V6, 265 hp, 620 Nm)

Is it possible that Audis engine has this tourque disadvantage over rivals...?

The 313 hp V6 TDI has 650 newton meters of torque, very comparable to the competition.

**AndyBG** · December 4th, 2011, 15:23

Originally Posted by chewym

The 313 hp V6 TDI has 650 newton meters of torque, very comparable to the competition.

Than, there is wrong info' on audi.de http://www.audi.de/de/brand/de/neuwa...che_daten.html

BTW, Merc's 3.0 single turbo has impressive torque figure (620 Nm) compared to Audis (500 Nm) and BMWs (540 Nm) single turbos...

**Joker** · December 4th, 2011, 21:14

Originally Posted by chewym

The 313 hp V6 TDI has 650 newton meters of torque, very comparable to the competition.

Correct, that's why there was the need to switch from S-Tronic to 8sp Auto.

**Joker** · December 4th, 2011, 21:16

Is this actually a tri-turbo system in the Beemer or is it a bi-turbo system where one of the turbos is BMW's Twinpower version?

**AndyBG** · December 5th, 2011, 17:04

Good q'...

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