New RS5 test mule pics (ams)

[Lmg]

A forced induction engine can be as light as the V8 or even lighter if it is the 3.0 V6.

Indeed, the 3.0 TFSI is about 6 kg lighter than the V8 (189 kg vs 195 kg).

But the TFSI is heavier than the 3.2 FSI, the same way that a 4.0 TFSI engine, even being supercharged instead of turbocharged, would be heavier than the 4.2 FSI.

[The Pretender]

Indeed, the 3.0 TFSI is about 6 kg lighter than the V8 (189 kg vs 195 kg).

But the TFSI is heavier than the 3.2 FSI, the same way that a 4.0 TFSI engine, even being supercharged instead of turbocharged, would be heavier than the 4.2 FSI.

Yes and therefore is a V8 turbo or supercharged not the best choise engine wise, let alone a V10.
Preformance wise the 3.0TFSI would be the best engine.
The Audi S5 3.0TFSI V6 SC is a better S5 then the V8 one.

[artur777]

The weight of an enfine is an issue
But better to place V6 with Forced induction then - look at the 911 Turbo and GTR - they are very-very fast cars

[Lmg]

The weight of an enfine is an issue
But better to place V6 with Forced induction then - look at the 911 Turbo and GTR - they are very-very fast cars

Yes, but prefereably a supercharged V6. taking in consideration the weight of the 3.0 TFSI, a turbocharged V6 would be very close in weight to the V8.

Yes and therefore is a V8 turbo or supercharged not the best choise engine wise, let alone a V10.
Preformance wise the 3.0TFSI would be the best engine.

Specially if it's the version with 400 hp in that Q5 concept.

On the other hand, maybe this new version of the HDZ engine will be a bit lighter. We'll see.

[The Pretender]

On the other hand, maybe this new version of the HDZ engine will be a bit lighter. We'll see.

I highly doubt that.
The story was that the new 2.5TFSI inline 5 engine would only weigh a little bit more then the 4-pot 2.0TFSI.
In the end the TT RS weigh more the the TT 3.2 quattro with the old ponderous VR6 lumb under the bonnet.

[Leadfoot]

Jarod,

Remember how you and I discussed what we had both been told by sources that Audi's new buzz word was 'downsizing'. We seen the fruits of this with the dropping of the v8 in the S4 to a smaller/lighter v6SC and the result was a revelation in terms of handling and to a lesser extent performance though it does have a better balance of performance.

Personally I think, given the timely introduction of the (406hp) 3.0TFSI in the Q5 it would sound logical to expect such an engine in the RS5. For a start the S4 with very little work is capable of matching the RS4's output and eclipsing it's torque figures so obviously the engine is more than capable of producing the estimated 450hp that the RS5 may well have. I would reckon that the HDZ would perfectly suit the RS5 in both handling and performance but wouldn't be the best choice, the total disaster would be to give the RS5 anything heavier than the 4.2FSI, so in my opinion the 4.0TFSI in either supercharged or turbo form would both be heavier and wouldn't work (i.e. a backward step in terms of handling).

I know I have always been told that it's a HDZ 4.2FSI under the bonnet but my heart says it's something different, something smaller, lighter yet even more potent.

[The Pretender]

Jarod,

Remember how you and I discussed what we had both been told by sources that Audi's new buzz word was 'downsizing'. We seen the fruits of this with the dropping of the v8 in the S4 to a smaller/lighter v6SC and the result was a revelation in terms of handling and to a lesser extent performance though it does have a better balance of performance.

Personally I think, given the timely introduction of the (406hp) 3.0TFSI in the Q5 it would sound logical to expect such an engine in the RS5. For a start the S4 with very little work is capable of matching the RS4's output and eclipsing it's torque figures so obviously the engine is more than capable of producing the estimated 450hp that the RS5 may well have. I would reckon that the HDZ would perfectly suit the RS5 in both handling and performance but wouldn't be the best choice, the total disaster would be to give the RS5 anything heavier than the 4.2FSI, so in my opinion the 4.0TFSI in either supercharged or turbo form would both be heavier and wouldn't work (i.e. a backward step in terms of handling).

I know I have always been told that it's a HDZ 4.2FSI under the bonnet but my heart says it's something different, something smaller, lighter yet even more potent.

Yes and this car is the key to the answer of that.



btw, MTM get 430 hp out of the 3.0TFSI with Cantronic.

[S6V10Avant]

I believe the 3.0 TFSI is easily "tunable" to 450-470 hp and 550 Nm, perfect for a RS5 with S-Tronic..

[RXBG]

mebbe we'll see it in LA in Nov. i dont think the RS5 will show in IAA.

[The Pretender]

mebbe we'll see it in LA in Nov. i dont think the RS5 will show in IAA.

Geneva 2010.

[youry]

I think like "The pretender" too...

[artur777]

Geneva 2010 means TFSI engine.
Enough tijme to correct the mistake.

[RXBG]

Geneva 2010 means TFSI engine.
Enough tijme to correct the mistake.

agreed fellas.

audi needs to skip the GG V8. dump the 3.0T with 420 hp in there lighten the kit up a bit and call it a day.

then eliminate the V8 R8, what is the point anyway?

[andreadebi]

is it the real one?

http://forums.fourtitude.com/zerothread?id=4543954

http://picasaweb.google.hu/agocs.tom...PiKoMW9lrHVfQ#

[Toto89]

These are my pictures posted a few pages beforeBut yes, it can be the real one.

[The RS6]

These are my pictures posted a few pages beforeBut yes, it can be the real one.

If I were you I'd camp right next to it just to hear when the owner comes what kind of engine is under the hood

[andreadebi]

These are my pictures posted a few pages beforeBut yes, it can be the real one.

sorry I missed your post....

[The Pretender]

No wide arches.