Visited Neckarsulm and Ingolstadt today - lots of pics and RS5 info

[jstahmann]

Had a great conversation with a contact at quattro GmbH today and learned some very interesting things.

We were talking about the RS5 and he mentioned that it will have pretty much the same normally aspirated V8 as the B7 RS4, but with about 450 hp.

One of the limitations on the B7 RS4 was the challenge of getting enough air in and out of the engine - that it was pretty much 'choked' in the B7 RS4. There's just not enough room in the engine bay to deliver as much air as the engine needs to produce all the power its capable of, and not enough room for a proper-sized exhaust. The B7 RS4 has one throttle body and one air intake, and the RS5 will have dual throttle bodies and three air intakes - one of which will open only at above 5000 rpm. It 'should' also have a larger diameter exhaust system to help with the exhaust flow. Different engine management will also help with the power.

The throttle body conversation intrigued me a bit. He said that the RS4 throttle body measures 90mm and that the RS5 will have dual 70mm throttle bodies. Potentially one could replace the dual 70mm ones with dual 90mm ones and re-tune...

There will not be a B8 RS4, only the RS5.

The TT-RS will be different than other RS models before it, where it will be completely assembled in Hungary. All other RS models have had some portion of their assembly in the Neckarsulm plant.

I also picked up a few goodies, including "the last set of factory RS4 emboidered mats in Neckarsulm" , and some Euro tail lights that blink orange instead of red.



Also a couple of models - RS2, R8 V10, and R8 DTM Safety Car.


Some other highlights -

2 TT-RSs and an R8 Spyder under covers...


R8 V10 in Sepang Blue










RS6 in Suzuka Gray








Q7 V12 TDis










My rental car - A4 Avant 2.0 TDi 6 Speed


Tomorrow I'm hitting the new Porsche Museum in Stuttgart. I'm really excited about that...

John

[Hy Octane]

A Q7 V12 non diesel?
Which V12 might this be?

[Kliko]

No B8 RS4?Why????????That is just so weird, how will they compete with Merc and BMW in this??

[tvrfan]

Audi sucked up at this big time !!! no B8 RS4, and a NA RS5. audi is not "vorsprung durch technik" they are moving backwards with that. i hate to say that. but if there will be no B8 RS4. iam out of the game

[chewym]

Agree with no RS4 comments, just a weird thing to do.

[roadrunner]

No B8 RS4 would be insane, and therefore i don't believe it.

Especially in the current economical conditions, driving an RS4 makes less of a fuzz than driving an S6 & A8/S8 to the general public = smaller = less expensive car

Not mentioning all the prospect buyers that need/want 4 doors (=Avant & Sedan).

Only time will tell, but i sure hope this one is a misinformation.

[Bogdan]

I am sure there wouldn't be a B8 RS4, as there was no B6 RS4. They have enough RS cars on the road this year: RS6, TTRS and probably the RS5. Not to mention the R8's. Too much to work for Quattro factory.
After the A4 facelift (2010-2011) - the B9 - then the RS4 will come. It seems pretty logical to me.

[The Pretender]

The TT RS is not a quattro GmbH built car, It totally get build in Gyor.
That leave only the RS6 for quattro GmbH.

Jarod.

[andreadebi]

thanks for the info! i don't believe they will not build b8 rs4...we will see..
is it inuit weiss the colour of the q7 v12 tdi? I mean it's tdi...only without tdi logo...

[KresoF1]

The TT RS is not a quattro GmbH built car, It totally get build in Gyor.
That leave only the RS6 for quattro GmbH.

Jarod.

You forgot that all R8 versions are quattro Gmbh cars. Also Q7 V12 TDI is quattro Gmbh model.

[KresoF1]

thanks for the info! i don't believe they will not build b8 rs4...we will see..
is it inuit weiss the colour of the q7 v12 tdi? I mean it's tdi...only without tdi logo...

Yes, that is Inuitwiess.

[Leadfoot]

The TT RS is not a quattro GmbH built car, It totally get build in Gyor.
That leave only the RS6 for quattro GmbH.

Jarod.

Well we have all been speculating that for quattro to increase their production volume would require another production site and that speculation has prove to be correct.

I don't see a problem with that as long as development follows their normal pattern as all other RS models.

[tvrfan]

no B8 RS4 and a NA RS5. a nightmare come true for me

[andreadebi]

Yes, that is Inuitwiess.

grazie,I like the full white colour of inuit weiss

[QuattroFun]

Fantastic news (the 450PS NA engine that is)! Now I will pass the TT RS for sure and start counting the days until I get my very own RS5...

[tvrfan]

Fantastic news (the 450PS NA engine that is)! Now I will pass the TT RS for sure and start counting the days until I get my very own RS5...

i dont like that fact. the 4.0TFSI would be much better. gas mileage or emission. thats not "vorsprung durch technik". So there must be a RS4. i expect it after the B8 facelift (like as B7 RS4) ???

[Toto89]

Is it only me who doesn't see the images?

[The Pretender]

Is it only me who doesn't see the images?

No pictures to see on this page.

Jarod.