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    V12 Q7 results...

    Autobild Sportscars March X6 vs ML vs Cayenne, the old one tested 2/2008:

    X6 4.4 / ML 63 fracelifted/Cayenne Turbo S/ Q7 V12 TDI /OLD ML63
    0-100 km/h 5.3/5.4/ 4.5/ 5.4/5.1
    0-200 km/h 20.8/18.8/16.4/20.8/17.8
    1/4 mile 13.58/13.58/12.81/??/13.33

    Just for comparison (From 2/2008 autobild):
    SRT 8/Cayanne GTS/ Touareg R50
    0-100 km/h 5.0/6.1/ 7.1
    0-200 km/h 21.0/24.7/36.5
    1/4 mile 13.32/14.16/15.12

    Consumption l/100km, respectively
    14.9/21.3/21.9/15.3/21.3
    21.6/18.1/14.0
    PTT

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    Looks like the Q7 V12 TDI got very good fuel economy and was not much slower. The Q7 is also quite a bit bigger than the other SUVs it was compared to which makes its figures more impressive.

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    Thanks Kip,

    We need to examine why the Q7 wasn't quicker than it was, at least I expected it to be quicker than that.

    X6 50i : 2145kg + 408hp + 600Nm
    ML63 : 2310kg : 520hp + 630Nm
    Cayenne Turbo S : 2355kg + 550hp + 750Nm
    Q7 v12TDi : 2635kg + 500hp + 1000Nm

    Basing everything around the quickest (Cayenne Turbo S) as the reference and see by percentages how each thing effects the results.

    Weight:
    X6 50i = 91.1%
    ML63 = 98.1%
    Cayenne Turbo S = 100%
    Q7 v12TDi = 111.9%

    Power:
    X6 50i = 74.2%
    ML63 = 92.7%
    Cayenne Turbo S = 100%
    Q7 v12TDi = 90.9%

    Torque:
    X6 50i = 80%
    ML63 = 84%
    Cayenne Turbo S = 100%
    Q7 v12TDi = 133.3%

    Based on this breakdown I don't disagree with the winner or even the ML coming second but looking at the difference between the Q7 and X6 I honestly expected the Q7 to be well ahead and closer to the ML with the X6 a distance fourth. Either BMW is telling porkies about it's weight or output figures or the Q7 didn't perform as it should.
    Search and you will find the truth.

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    In this comparison the Q7 was as fast as X6. Do you find it dissapointing in regard of being 500kg heavier?
    5 Audis so far...currently:
    2007 Audi A4 B7 2.0 TDI Multitronic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toto89 View Post
    In this comparison the Q7 was as fast as X6. Do you find it dissapointing in regard of being 500kg heavier?
    It weighed approx 20% more but has 20% more HP and 33% more torque, so yes I am a little disappointed with the times achieved in the Q7.
    Search and you will find the truth.

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    The Cayenne time looks to good to be true. In American magazines the (pre facelift) Cayenne Turbo S was not quicker than the ML 63. In fact it was slower than the Jeep SRT-8. Don't know what they could have done to make it so much quicker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leadfoot View Post
    It weighed approx 20% more but has 20% more HP and 33% more torque, so yes I am a little disappointed with the times achieved in the Q7.
    Me too, with all the hype there about this V12 SUV....AND the price tag attached to it I have to say that I'm dissapointed as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JavierNuvolari View Post
    Me too, with all the hype there about this V12 SUV....AND the price tag attached to it I have to say that I'm dissapointed as well.
    Yep, the X6 50i offers same acceleration and fuel consumption, yet sounds much better and costs a lot less.

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