"Auto Bild test&tuning"
Track time at Oschersleben
"Auto Bild test&tuning"
Track time at Oschersleben
Gabriel343,
nice post on the CLS. if what i'm seeing is correct than the CLS will be one track car to be reckoned with. it appears that at point 4 it has a higher speed of almost 14kph!!! that is amazing!!! i am a little curious why all the other check points have such similar times and just #4 is such a big difference.
all the same the performance is outstanding but not enough to make me want to trade in my RS 6
Ben
good track-time, now im waiting for the tracktime on Nurnburing.
Next number of SportAuto is testing the car
Please let me know when u boys have read it
Well, I would'nt compare the M3 CSL against the 996 GT3 since the CSL is a tuned M3 with lighter weight and so on. The GT3 is a standard Porsche product.
Rather I would like to see them compare the M3 CSL against the upcoming Porsche 996 GT3 RS.
Well according to Sport Auto the CSL is 4 seconds faster than the
GT3 around Nurburgring (7:50). Amazing!
do you have the time on Hockenheim too?Originally posted by acey
Well according to Sport Auto the CSL is 4 seconds faster than the
GT3 around Nurburgring (7:50). Amazing!
Last edited by Andreas.ka; July 25th, 2003 at 20:52.
What exactly do you mean by that?Originally posted by krabu
Well, I would'nt compare the M3 CSL against the 996 GT3 since the CSL is a tuned M3 with lighter weight and so on. The GT3 is a standard Porsche product.
The M3 CSL is a standard BMW product, that is built from scratch much and differs from the standard M3 much in the same way as a GT3 differs from a standard 996 C2.
Johann, Whats the laptime for the CSL on Hockenheim? quicker than the GT3?Originally posted by johann
What exactly do you mean by that?
The M3 CSL is a standard BMW product, that is built from scratch much and differs from the standard M3 much in the same way as a GT3 differs from a standard 996 C2.
Don't know yet.Originally posted by Andreas.ka
Johann, Whats the laptime for the CSL on Hockenheim? quicker than the GT3?
Hockenheim:
M3CSL 1:13,5
GT3 1:13,2
Where do you take this times?Originally posted by johann
Hockenheim:
M3CSL 1:13,5
GT3 1:13,2
Answer: SportAuto, germancarmagazineOriginally posted by Gabriel343
Where do you take this times?
Can be found here too:
http://www.track-challenge.com/main_e.asp
I say 3 tenths of a second can be driver related, so I don't care so much about that. More amazing is the times overall. The CSL is MIGHTY fast! :bigeyes:
And of course so is the Porsche too, no surprises there...
:snow:
Is the CSL really SO MUCH faster than a normal M3??
Yes it is, its not just a modified M3, It got 360hk och 110kg less weight and built in carbon and much more...Originally posted by steve
Is the CSL really SO MUCH faster than a normal M3??
tyres tyres tyres
the CSL are almost SLICKS
the GT3 are normal tyres!
147 GTA
SZ 3.0 V6
BMW 320d
Fiesta 1.4 TDCi
GSX-R 1000
Interesting Comparison going on here.
But, The GT3 get's my thumbs up. Why? Well...Porsche vehicles have been known consecutively for a long...long time, to be able to take on the track with amazing times and be drove home later that day without bits falling off.
With the M3 you had the problem of engines blowing up between 2000-2001 (or 2002) and there's been one or two 2003 models that've goen the same route...so what does BMW M do?...squeeze more power out of an engine that is showing 'obvious difficulties' with the power it has already. That's good for selling the car, but is it actually feasible? I don't think it is...While the Porsche has a good enough displacement to handle a power increase over the previous GT3, meaning the chances of things to go wrong drop considerably...I can only see the CSL being towed behind a Cayenne, smoking, crackling and with whistling noises coming out from the radiator at the end of IT's track day, while the Porsche is still making record lap times around the Nurburgring.
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