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    RS5 Up-Date.

    It start to look like that the new RS5 will get the "High Rev" version 4.2 litre V8 FSI engine of the RS4/R8 with 420 hp.

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    What makes you think that this will be the case?

    I don't mind either way but considering that it's around three years newer you would expect Audi to come out with something that would be offering something with an improvement in not only handling and balance but performance as well.

    It might still use a 4.2L v8 but I doubt it would be the same engine or output as the RS4.
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    Leadfoot - agree with you!
    455-475 hp is my opinion - to be a little bit better than C63 AMG

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    Quote Originally Posted by artur777 View Post
    Leadfoot - agree with you!
    455-475 hp is my opinion - to be a little bit better than C63 AMG
    You all see stars, 455-475 hp for the RS5.
    It can be a litle bit more then 420 hp IMHO but not 455-475 hp.
    The 420 hp M3 V8 Coupe' will still be its main rival.
    Even a Aston Martin V8 vantage have only 380 hp.
    With close to 500 it will be more a M6 rival, also price wise.

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    I would rather go for a TT V8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Pretender View Post
    You all see stars, 455-475 hp for the RS5.
    It can be a litle bit more then 420 hp IMHO but not 455-475 hp.
    The 420 hp M3 V8 Coupe' will still be its main rival.
    Even a Aston Martin V8 vantage have only 380 hp.
    With close to 500 it will be more a M6 rival, also price wise.

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    Is this a Reason?

    The main rival of the RS6 is also the M5 and it has 73hp less than the RS6 ... so why won't they do that also with the RS5?

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    it might make sense to give it a new intake and or valvelift and or special exhaust system. then lighten the car up even more than the S5. in doing so, they could keep the price point not much higher than the current RS4. if it lost 150 lbs weight, got the new quattro, and maybe 15 hp more it would be a hell of a car without costing audi an arm and a leg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Pretender View Post
    It start to look like that the new RS5 will get the "High Rev" version 4.2 litre V8 FSI engine of the RS4/R8 with 420 hp.

    Jarod.
    This is what i have been saying pretty much all along. If they can negate the weight on the S5 down about 80kg, new quattro, etc. They would have a winner.

    Oh course i wouldnt mind a 20hp bump at all in hp but i dont see that happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroCool View Post
    Is this a Reason?

    The main rival of the RS6 is also the M5 and it has 73hp less than the RS6 ... so why won't they do that also with the RS5?
    The RS6 is ridiculous havy and need the ridiculous power to get close performance wise to the M5.
    The RS5 don't need much more then 420 hp to perform like a M3.

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    in all probability they may not leave the engine 100% alone. they may update it a bit but that is all. they are trying to keep costs down and increase powertrain efficiency and fuel consumption while trying to keep complexity down.

    if they added turbos the car would be too powerful and they'd have to put it in the R8 as the new base engine as well. a TT V8 will make close to 500 hp. the unreleased NA V10 will barely make 510. it is impossible.

    i feel quite sure that the idea of a "carryover" RS4 engine into the RS5 is not appetizing to some but it is realistic. the focus has to come in handling- hence the weight loss. weight loss is tantamount to more power. so who cares? it'll be better for the car.

    we are entering an era where other makers, like mercedes, are going to have to realize that S65s are useless. they can win a drag race. but they can't corner.
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    It wasnt the engine which made the RS4 the best Audi in 10 years, it was the way the engine worked with the rest of the car, the way it felt to drive. Now the RS5 uses a completely new chasis, the MLK platform, and it would be stupid to expect the 4.2 V8 of the RS4 to go in the RS5 and drive just like the RS4. Things will need to change if they are going to use this same engine in the RS5.

    Hopefully it will be as great a car as the RS4, but this definately wont be achieved by using the RS4's components.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Pretender View Post
    The RS6 is ridiculous havy and need the ridiculous power to get close performance wise to the M5.
    The RS5 don't need much more then 420 hp to perform like a M3.

    jarod.
    I would agree with that statement only if Audi can lower the weight of the RS5 below the S5, and not by a piddly 20kgs, it would need to be in excess of 75kgs minimum. How this can be achieved while improving the weight balance over the axles is beyond me.

    If they don't achieve a decent weight reduction then I feel an extra 50hp over the M3 with a decent increase in torque as well will be a necessary to stay in the running, if only the acceleration side of the race. Look beyond the out right performance I reckon the RS5 will wipe the floor with everything this side of the GTR.
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    rs5 wih v8 420hp and DSG transmission and other upgrades.. will be very competitive

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeankk View Post
    rs5 wih v8 420hp and DSG transmission and other upgrades.. will be very competitive
    DSG/S-Tronic is a must for the RS5 over a Tiptronic , i prefer a manual gearbox though.

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    460hp and DSG - my expectation
    and counting increased weight and quaatro this is the only way to be as fast as M3 and C63

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    I am expecting the weight to be slightly less than the S5 (20Kgs), all of which will come from the front and it to definitely include DSG. I wish I know for sure the engine choice but I know that less than a year ago Audi were looking to run a N/A engine producing in excess of 500Nm.

    If it matches these expectations then I reckon it will be number one in this sector. But how much will it cost?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeankk View Post
    rs5 wih v8 420hp and DSG transmission and other upgrades.. will be very competitive
    I agree.

    NA V8 from the RS4 is plenty and such a great engine deserve its place. Revving to 8k was a huge boon and it sounds great while pulling far stronger than the underwhelming 350bhp unit in the S5.

    Agree that if they can shed 50kg or so then it'll be a rocketship with DSG. Perfect for British backroads and even the odd trip across the water to the Autobahn.
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