Audi S5 takes on BMW 335 i coupe and Infinity G37...
''...The S5 is the glutton. It’s just barely larger, but it feels big. Its interior not only beats the Infiniti and the 3-series handily, it gives BMW’s larger and significantly more expensive 6-series a run for its money...''
Full test... :
http://www.fourtitude.com/news/publi...cle_3709.shtml
Thats not a very favorable review of the S5 performance wise. With ~50 more hp and the "S" series going against a non-M BMW still lost in acceleration and handling categories.
I don't know about the difference between the S5 and the 335i, maybe Leadfoot can tell us more about this, but what I want to say is that I would take the S5 anyday. The interior is just great!!!
It's just a wonderful car. Maybe in the future it will perform better in handling and acceleration with a biturboed motor??
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Originally Posted by Kliko61
I don't know about the difference between the S5 and the 335i, maybe Leadfoot can tell us more about this, but what I want to say is that I would take the S5 anyday
It's just a wonderful car. Maybe in the future it will perform better in handling and acceleration with a biturboed motor??
I definitely like the S5's interior better, but i am not sure if would the S5 "anyday." Everybody has different priorities. But to me a performance car such as the S5 should handle better. The same goes for the S4. I saw the german review where they compared the S4 to the R8, and although the same engine, the handling characteristics were completely different. I think the S4/S5 with their engine mounted so forward hinders their handling. I am not sure why a 350hp V8 is slower than a 300hp I6 twin turbo?
Well...
In latest issue of Auto Bild Sportscar Edition S5 won with ease over 335i(with M Package and 19" wheels) and CLK 500. S5 and 335i were manual versions.
Overall Auto Bild Sportscar Edition stuff feels that S5 is clearly a better car then 335i...
Thats a little dissapointing. I test drove a 335i last summer and was underwhelmed by the performance. Since then I have been waiting for the M3 or S5/RS5.
If the S5 cant deliver then im only considering the RS5 or M3 (+DCT).
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In many other 1/4m tests the S5 gets much better times than in this test. Anyway, the difference between the S5 and 335i is no big at all, considering just this test. S5 is more like a cruiser, not a sharp turner. Snap on it a stiffer suspension, nothing really stiif, just something similar to the 335i suspension, and you'll see the car looks 10x better (lowered, just as much as the bimmer, not stupid much) and will also handle a lot better. Audi just uses SUV suspension in US cars, I am not sure why. Maybe cause the streets here are so bad, and we have to go of road a lot. Just compare a stock 3-series with a stock S4/S5, you'll see the bimmer sitting much lower. A little stiffer, but much better in turns.
But, a 335i with a chip will eat our S5 alive, no comments whatsoever. Against that we need an RS5
Audi B7 S4 and Audi R8 don't have the same engine..., Audi B7 RS 4 and Audi R8 have similar engines (4.2l, 420 hp)
Where to start with what makes the S5 and 335i different.
Well for a start interior design in the Audi is in a totally different class, it makes you (the driver) feel special before you have even turned the key or should I say pressed the key into the dash.
Now the actual experience of driving the two cars, firstly the 335i, it's a brilliant engine and pulls from very low down but to me the engine note is too civilised for it's own good but in it's defence it will pull all the way to the limit, it's steering is better mainly because it isn't as light but it wouldn't be anymore accurate than the S5. Turn in isn't as good which surprised me but then when you consider the extra width of track that the S5 has you see why it's better. Finally the brakes, sorry BMW but on this occasion the Audi brakes are much better and definitely stop quicker.
Now to the S5, as I have said 'what an engine note', it's a real head turner even when they haven't noticed the looks and when you do happen to open it up it just makes you feel much better and more special. The steering in the 335i is better but I think this is down to not being used to the lightness of touch but it is in touch with the surface and you can feel the transfer of grip from one axle to the other which I never felt the same in the old S4 so the chassis is making a difference and as I have already reported this is the first S model which does get pretty close to the feel the RS4 give in a corner with all of the confidence that goes with it. The brakes are impressive and on road work at least seem resistant to fade. Also the ride in the S5 though slightly firmer than the 335i (S/E model) it feels better for traveling quickly and this time round isn't at all bouncy which I dislike about the old S4.
As for performance, well as I didn't drive the cars back to back I can't comment on which is the quicker, I reckon the nod would have to go to the S5 but this may be down to the rest of the experience, the noise etc, but going by what most of the reviews are saying is that the S5 is about a 0.5~0.75s quicker to 100mph which would be equal to 2~3 car lengths. I will say that when in a higher gear I reckon the 335i pulls the harder or at least seems too.
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Where to start with what makes the S5 and 335i different.
Well for a start interior design in the Audi is in a totally different class, it makes you (the driver) feel special before you have even turned the key or should I say pressed the key into the dash.
Now the actual experience of driving the two cars, firstly the 335i, it's a brilliant engine and pulls from very low down but to me the engine note is too civilised for it's own good but in it's defence it will pull all the way to the limit, it's steering is better mainly because it isn't as light but it wouldn't be anymore accurate than the S5. Turn in isn't as good which surprised me but then when you consider the extra width of track that the S5 has you see why it's better. Finally the brakes, sorry BMW but on this occasion the Audi brakes are much better and definitely stop quicker.
Now to the S5, as I have said 'what an engine note', it's a real head turner even when they haven't noticed the looks and when you do happen to open it up it just makes you feel much better and more special. The steering in the 335i is better but I think this is down to not being used to the lightness of touch but it is in touch with the surface and you can feel the transfer of grip from one axle to the other which I never felt the same in the old S4 so the chassis is making a difference and as I have already reported this is the first S model which does get pretty close to the feel the RS4 give in a corner with all of the confidence that goes with it. The brakes are impressive and on road work at least seem resistant to fade. Also the ride in the S5 though slightly firmer than the 335i (S/E model) it feels better for traveling quickly and this time round isn't at all bouncy which I dislike about the old S4.
As for performance, well as I didn't drive the cars back to back I can't comment on which is the quicker, I reckon the nod would have to go to the S5 but this may be down to the rest of the experience, the noise etc, but going by what most of the reviews are saying is that the S5 is about a 0.5~0.75s quicker to 100mph which would be equal to 2~3 car lengths. I will say that when in a higher gear I reckon the 335i pulls the harder or at least seems too.
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Great points. I do like someone with 2cents that can have at least as minimal of a bias as possible. I can tell you with all the cars I own, i am the first one to point out their flaws against competition.
The S5s interior is much nicer compared to the 335. But to be also fair we are comparing the "S" series to a non-M series. I think a better comparison would be the S5 to the M3s interior as you mentioned and the differences become more slim and more individual prefference.
BMW does make the cars very mute. My best friend who has the M6 hates the uber quiet exhaust. I got a Hamman quad exhaust for my 540i and wow!
Audi S5 is direct competitor to the BMW 335 i coupe. Audis RS division is counterpart of BMWs M division, or Merc's AMG, not ''S'' cars... So, for now, we can compare S5 and 335 i coupe, and in the future Audi RS 5 will be going up against BMW M3 coupe.
On the subject of the S5 and it's engine note, does anyone else know if it's normal for the engine to cap it's revs to only 4000rpm when stationary. Mine does it and was wondering if mine is different than any others out there.
Also a nice feature is that when you have the handbrake on but not your seat belt the car won't automatically release like it does when you do have it on, it's a nice safety touch.
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The most you could do is compare an Msport 335i to the S5, but def not the M3. I really love the Msport 335i but the S5 wins hands down!
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If I understand you correctly, you can't rev your car above 4000 rpm when you are standing...
...same thing has Cayenne, I don't know what's that for, but you can't rev it above.
MMmm..perhaps the engine has not broken in yet?
Would you care to expand on how they have different engines. They are both 4.2l 420Hp FSI. They might have different cams to give them different powerbands, but the engines are pretty much the same and should weight the same as well.
In that reply of mine, I was correcting you when you said that S4 and R8 have same engine. Those two engine are very much diferent, besides having the same dissplacement (4.2l)
When it comes to RS 4 and R8 engine, yes, they are very much same, but not completly..., there are some diferences.
Ti-Mike was saying something about that few months ago... He owns the R8.
http://www.rs6.com/forum/showthread....615#post108615
In that reply of mine, I was correcting you when you said that S4 and R8 have same engine. Those two engine are very much diferent, besides having the same dissplacement (4.2l)
When it comes to RS 4 and R8 engine, yes, they are very much same, but not completly..., there are some diferences.
Ti-Mike was saying something about that few months ago... He owns the R8.
http://www.rs6.com/forum/showthread....615#post108615
Please dont take what i am saying offensive. First you say "...those two engines are very much different" then you say "...they are very much same..." I did look into the link you provided and just because the airbox/intake or having an extra throttle body does not make it a different engine.
Technically when we say "engine", we are talking about bottom end, piston size, bore, stroke, rods, crank, head, valves, cams, etc. Those are all identical in those two cars and that makes them having the same engine. Just because one revs 200rpm more does not mean anything. Those are all ECU related, not because one engine cant handle the higher RPM limit.
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