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    There are a lot of option's for the RS5 engine.
    And all will be clear after Audi have introduced the new S4.

    If the new S4 get a 3.0 litre V6 Bi-turbo engine the change that the RS5 get a 4.0 litre V8 Bi-turbo engine is more likely.
    But if the new S4 get a 333 hp 3.0 litre V6 FSI Valve-Lift Kompressor engine it's more likely the RS5 gets a 444 hp 4.0 litre V8 FSI Valve-Lift Kompressor engine.
    Another option is a Valve-lift version of the RS4 engine with 420+ hp.

    My personal favoured engine would be a 450+ hp 5.2 V10 FSI Valve-Lift engine.
    This in case BMW would put a V10 in a future M3.

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    My fantasy engine would be a V6, a supercharger in between the cylinder banks, and a turbocompressor on each side. Massive torque without massive turbo lag or massive displacement.

    If the S4 is a V6 Turbo, then it wouldn't be far fetched, as RS models have always used the S-engine as the starting point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Pretender View Post
    Last Info from Audi AG according to Audi Sweden.

    Audi S4 B8 V6 3.0TFSI 333 ps S-Tronic Quattro.

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    I thought we'd all agreed the S4 will be a turboed 3.0FSI?

    Lol if the RS5 wasnt a V8 id rather have an S5 or M3
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    4.2 V8 480 Hp Lightweight maybe carbon fiber roof? like m3? 0-100km 4.0! not 4.4 or 4.2 Just 4.0 would be perfect

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rage View Post
    I thought we'd all agreed the S4 will be a turboed 3.0FSI?
    I'm not agreeing the S4 will be tuboed.
    I have more info that say it will be Kompressored, but the engine will be destinatianed as 3.0TFSI because of marketing reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Pretender View Post
    I'm not agreeing the S4 will be tuboed.
    I have more info that say it will be Kompressored, but the engine will be destinatianed as 3.0TFSI because of marketing reasons.

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    It won't be a supercharged V6, but a turbo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Pretender View Post
    I'm not agreeing the S4 will be tuboed.
    I have more info that say it will be Kompressored, but the engine will be destinatianed as 3.0TFSI because of marketing reasons.

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    If it turns out like I originally said and the S4 does indeed get a supercharged 3.0v6 then I would expect something similar to appear in the RS4 only that time it would be a 4.0v8 version.
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    Is it possible that A4/S4/RS 4 goes one and the A5/S5/RS 5 the other way... ?

    S4 to get smaller forced induction engine, so future RS 4 as well, while, RS 5 get something bigger, N/A, based on the current S5... ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyBG View Post
    Is it possible that A4/S4/RS 4 goes one and the A5/S5/RS 5 the other way... ?

    S4 to get smaller forced induction engine, so future RS 4 as well, while, RS 5 get something bigger, N/A, based on the current S5... ?
    I remember having a discussion with Iceman (Hans) quite a while ago and according to him and his source inside Audi that the two models A4 and A5 would go their separate way with the performance models. Admittedly this was a long time ago and things could have changed from back then.
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    Maybe Audi would go the V6 SC route for S4 and V8 atmo route for the S5.
    The RS4 can get a 444 hp 4.0 V8 SC engine and the RS5 a 450+ hp 5.2 V10.
    Like i say everything is possible.

    btw, i like to see a RS5 V10 5.2 FSI Quattro with 450+ hp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Pretender View Post
    btw, i like to see a RS5 V10 5.2 FSI Quattro with 450+ hp.

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    To the best of my knowledge they are looking for 500Nm or more for the RS5 but I myself am unsure if Audi should go down the bigger engine route, especially as the A43.2Quattro is already out handling the v8 powered S5 with almost 100hp less. Weight is the key to making the RS5 perform, but then again the same argument has already been discussed on the TTS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leadfoot View Post
    Your wish may be granted.

    To the best of my knowledge they are looking for 500Nm or more for the RS5 but I myself am unsure if Audi should go down the bigger engine route, especially as the A43.2Quattro is already out handling the v8 powered S5 with almost 100hp less. Weight is the key to making the RS5 perform, but then again the same argument has already been discussed on the TTS.
    As much as I would 'love' a V10 I think audi should concentrate on lowering weight as much as possible (to compensate for stronger reinforced parts etc). In that respect a V8 might make more sense.

    Saying that im not sure which id pick if i was offered both. I mean...will i actually track my car?

    Whats the difference in weight between a V8 and V10? especially if its a V8TT and V10NA
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    Just read the thread re: sportauto testing A4 3.2Q being quicker round a track then the S5.

    perhaps lighter is better lol.
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    If a S5 V8 is that slow round a track, a 3.0 litre V6 FSI Valve-lift Kompressor engine make even more sence to be in the next S4.
    In that case a V10 RS5 is out of the question a we have to settle with just a HP V6 or V8.

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    Marketing pressure will determine which engine Audi fit in the RS5. Many people see it as a rival to not only the M3 but also the M6, so which customer should they please, fitting a v10FSI N/A engine would make the car a direct competitor to the M6 but it would surely effect it's handling or at least we think it will and if they decide to fit a v8 with either a supercharger or turbos then it's clearly a rival to the M3 while still retaining the desired handling to tackle the small M model but also able to give it a bloody nose when a straight opens up and allows it to blast pass.

    I personally hope that Audi choose the supercharged route as it gives the smallest weight increase and give the same characteristics as a much bigger N/A engine. Who cares if it's tuning abilities are less, I doubt too many people would ever consider tuning their RS models in the first place.

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