German Autozeitung magazine pitted the S5 against a 335i coupe.
S5
0-100 : 5,1s
0-160 : 11,6s
0-200 : 18,3s
braking :
100-0, cold : 35,1m
100-0, warm : 34,5m
handling : 1:44,6 min
slalom : 62,2 km/h
weight : 1721kg
335i coupe (manual)
0-100 : 5,5s
0-160 : 11,9s
0-200 : 19,1s
braking :
100-0, cold : 36,6m
100-0, warm : 34,8m
handling : 1:44,6 min
slalom : 63,0 km/h
weight : 1596kg
The S5 won the comparison.
Like I said a few weeks ago.....Originally Posted by emve
Looks like what I was told was indeed, spot-on.Originally by Leadfoot
I have it on good authority that the S5 should be able to post the 0~160km/h in 11.6s and the 0~200km/h in 18.5s.
Man that 335i is very quick for the little outlay of money involved.
The times on the handling track weren't what I was expecting but to be fair to S5, the 335i isn't an old dog in the handling department and when you are only talking about going off the track as the worst that could happen if pushed to hard then it all about out-right grip and in this I doubt the S5 will be much if any better than a 335i.
Which track was used, was it tight or quite open? :eye:
P.S.
Not to start an argument with our fellow Beemer Boys, but when we have seen reports of 335i dynoing at 360hp and 360ft/lbs. Again ask the question where is the disadvantage from having awd with regards to power to the wheels? Especially as the S5 is a huge 125Kgs heavier.
Me thinks dynoing like I already said isn't an exact science.
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S5 vs M3 manual vs 335i coupe (manual)
0-100 : 5,1s (5.5s) (5.5s)
0-160 : 11,6s (12.3s) (11.9s)
0-200 : 18,3s (19.5s) (19.1s)
weight : 1721kg. (1570Kg) (1596Kg)
Clearly this time round Audi have got there power working at it's best. I wonder if the new MLP setup gives more power to the wheels than the old system.
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i hope too!!! BMW is working on a lighter X-Drive version to have much less power loss, DAMN audi has to bring this on toooo!!! anyone knows when a new maybe lighter quattro version comes out? i know just the new quattro with torque vectoring but i dont know if its lighter?!S5 vs M3 manual vs 335i coupe (manual)
0-100 : 5,1s (5.5s) (5.5s)
0-160 : 11,6s (12.3s) (11.9s)
0-200 : 18,3s (19.5s) (19.1s)
weight : 1721kg. (1570Kg) (1596Kg)
Clearly this time round Audi have got there power working at it's best. I wonder if the new MLP setup gives more power to the wheels than the old system.
335i faster than an M3?! :bigeyes:S5 vs M3 manual vs 335i coupe (manual)
0-100 : 5,1s (5.5s) (5.5s)
0-160 : 11,6s (12.3s) (11.9s)
0-200 : 18,3s (19.5s) (19.1s)
weight : 1721kg. (1570Kg) (1596Kg)
Clearly this time round Audi have got there power working at it's best. I wonder if the new MLP setup gives more power to the wheels than the old system.
faster than the last gen m3
Why the surprise, if you have watched any of the races between the two on YOUTUBE you will have seen that the 335i gets the better of the M3 after second gear and slowly but surely pulls away.
But even more so with the S5.
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Not all:Why the surprise, if you have watched any of the races between the two on YOUTUBE you will have seen that the 335i gets the better of the M3 after second gear and slowly but surely pulls away.
But even more so with the S5.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3YwyNv5zwk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfrR0JXwgJ4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIcKWZ66Pvk
Where did you see stock 335i vs M3 E46 stock and winner is 335i?If you mean this 335i:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ4kaeNiPb8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw6GwOjtXYg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhfAGJBV6wA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnGl4zd3zpw
see details at last video.His car is modified a lot...
the 335i is not stock
I know what you are saying KK265, but the first few videos are on an automatic 335i which is over 0.5s slower to 100km/h than a manual version.
The test results are for a manual 335i.
Plus with the last video the way the 335i left the M3 is clearly much greater than the other videos, this is not a slight acceleration difference of the 0.4s to 160km/h quoted above, it more like a good 1.5s quicker don't you think.
Last edited by Leadfoot; August 16th, 2007 at 14:33.
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E46 M3 is faster than the 335. Sport Auto got it to 200 in 16.8.
Yeah, but that was one of those magical fairy dust covered M3 which could clearly fly.
Not one other UK magazine ever came close to matching this time, in fact the best I have every read for an E46 M3 to 160km/h is 12s dead.
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Are you saying SPort Auto is rigged? C'mon give it a break man. Car & driver got 13.1 1/4 mile, Sport Auto got 13.0 for that test where it ran to 200 in 16.8.
For starters, Car and Driver conduct their tests on a dragstrip, not a normal surface and both times are near enough identical to that of the S5.
So now you are saying the M3 could pull a whole 1.5s on the S5 in the extra 25mph it takes to get to 200km/h, who now needs to give it a break and I reckon stay off the sauce.
By the way Autocar got their M3 to achieve the 1/4 mile in 13.3s but it still only achieve the 100mph in 12s and didn't post a 125mph (200km/h) anywhere near 16.8s. So am I saying it's rigged, hey if the shoe fits.
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Ok so you a bright guy. LEt's use common logic. You say this test is rigged:Yeah, but that was one of those magical fairy dust covered M3 which could clearly fly.
Not one other UK magazine ever came close to matching this time, in fact the best I have every read for an E46 M3 to 160km/h is 12s dead.
http://www.einszweidrei.de/bmw/m32003-2.htm
Test in ams 1/2003Gewicht 1570 kg0 - 80 km/h 3,5 s0 - 100 km/h 4,8 s0 - 120 km/h 6,5 s0 - 140 km/h 8,5 s0 - 160 km/h 10,9 s0 - 180 km/h 13,7 s0 - 200 km/h 16,8 s
And yet on another continent a totally different US spec M3 ran 0-100mph in 11.2:
http://www.caranddriver.com/features...-m3-page4.html
Bear in mind the US spec M3 has slightly less power.
No I am not saying that. You are obviously a magazine racer. You can't work out how much car A will pull on Car B based on some tests done in different places with different timing equipment. But an M3 will pull an S5 at those speeds, I can't say if it will be 1.5 secs or what.
And it's a pretty bold statement to say SPort Auto are rigging tests for M3's & M3's only, & only once. I wonder what they would have to gain by doing that. I think they been in business long enough to know better.
And are tested on very sticky dragstrips or are you simply forgetting this little fact.
And by the way the times shown are near enough identical to the times Autocar got from a CSL funny enough, maybe the two cars' times got mixed up in the print.
I can tell you this, NO STANDARD M3 WILL RUN A 16.8s @ 200KM/H .... period.
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Sorry, did I miss something, you are stating times from Sport Auto and I am the one who is the magazine racer.
Man you don't know a single thing about me and I reckon I have a lot more respect on this site than you do.
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Been done already whether you like it or not. Maybe write a letter to the editor & complain about the time. You never know they may retract the magazine.
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