S5 vs 335i test in Greece

[KK265]

Greek magazine 4wheels ( the biggest) this month compares these cars.S5 is the winner of the test.
Performance:S5 335i
0-60km/h 2,5 2,8 secs
0-100 5,3 (85,1m) 5,5 (89,7m)
0-160 12,2 12,6
0-400m 13,5/168 km/h 13,8/168 km/h
0-1000m 24,5/218 km/h 24,9/217 km/h
Brakes:120km/h-0
53,3m 55,4m

[chewym]

Good to know, exactly what I thought.

[Fab]

BMW has to be used to be 2nd now

[Leadfoot]

The result is what I expected but not the figures. I have it on good authority that the S5 should be able to post the 0~160km/h in 11.6s and the 0~200km/h in 18.5s. Though these times aren't much better than the old E46 M3 when combined with the extra grip available from the new chassis I reckon the old M3 wouldn't stand a chance unless the road was dead straight.



It will be interesting to see if any of the reviews in the future achieve such a time.

[AudiSuperDriver]

great review mate, please someone try to fix somebody ideea from this forum who said that bmw is faster than audi on higher speeds...yeah right...and i am prince william))RS4 beat the crap new M3 in drag race and also as we all see the new S5 beat the crap 335i....hmmm...and we will se the new RS6 who will be the sportiest and most advanced saloon in the world and of course will have the best performance...

[Fab]

[artur777]

Guys, S5 is a good car certainly!
But 335i is also very good.
I have driven both of them and tell you that boh of them are very good cars!

[EKaru]

The S5 is priced significantly higher than the 335i (around $12K diff), so until the RS5 is released, the S5 is an E92 M3 competitor....

Right now Audi only has the S6 as their mid-sized performance division car and it was never intended to compete against the M5 and E63 AMG. Despite this fact, it still placed first in Motor Trend against the M5 and E63...
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...n/results.html

In a Car & Driver comparison it came 2nd and lost by only 1 point to E63 AMG: (with the M5 coming in 3rd)
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...z-e63-amg.html

.....so what I'm getting at is that the S5 might do better against the E92 M3 than you might think it will despite being outpowered (just as the S6 was to the E63 and M5)....
Eric....

[Fab]

The S5 is competing with the 335i and definitely not with the M model no matter if the price is higher. Price is only marketing policy.

RS models compete with M models this is obvious (sportiest model vs sportiest model).

[EKaru]

The S5 is competing with the 335i and definitely not with the M model no matter if the price is higher. Price is only marketing policy.

RS models compete with M models this is obvious (sportiest model vs sportiest model).

The B6/B7 S4 did very well against the E46 M3 in Road & Track, Car & Driver, Top Gear etc... The 335i starts at $40,800 over here (WAY below the $53K MSRP of the S5)
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....article_id=913

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...b-c32-amg.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzGBSvyuUwg

[Ruergard]

Thanks for those figures, but as Leadfoot said. I think the S5 has the grunt to post lower times to 160 km/h and 200 km/h. But we'll see in upcomming tests if we are right or just dreaming..

[Leadfoot]

The times I am suggesting are similar to that of the old E46 M3 so they aren't out of the question.

[KK265]

The times I am suggesting are similar to that of the old E46 M3 so they aren't out of the question.

Same magazine and driver October 2003:
S4 saloon manual 0-100 5,8secs 0-160 13,7secs,0-200 22,3 0-400m 13,8/162 0-1000m 25,4/211km/h
M3 manual 0-100km/h 5,5secs 0-160 12,3 0-200 19,5secs
0-400 m 13,7/169 0-1000m 24,9/218km/h
Brakes: 120-0 S4 62,7 m and M3 57,6m

[Leadfoot]

The M3 figures supplied by KK265

Performance:S5 (E46 M3)
0-100 5,3 - (5,5)
0-160 12,2 - (12,3)
0-400m 13,5/168 km/h - (13,7/169 km/h)
0-1000m 24,5/218 km/h - (24,9/218 km/h)
Brakes:120km/h-0
53,3m - (57,6m)

I must say the similarity is uncanny, but we know that an M3 can post better times than these so I reckon I am right in my estimations. I reckon a good gauge of the S5's potential is something between that of a S6 and S8. Well up to 230km/h that is, from then on I reckon either of them will put away pretty sharpest.

[MPT]

The S5 is competing with the 335i and definitely not with the M model no matter if the price is higher. Price is only marketing policy.

RS models compete with M models this is obvious (sportiest model vs sportiest model).

I still don't know why people don't get this. The A5 is named "B8", but really, it is closer to the A6, than the A4, and therefore the E92 3-series. It is like saying that the BMW 6'er is in the same "class" as the 5'er or the 7'er - it sits between.

[Leadfoot]

I still don't know why people don't get this. The A5 is named "B8", but really, it is closer to the A6, than the A4, and therefore the E92 3-series. It is like saying that the BMW 6'er is in the same "class" as the 5'er or the 7'er - it sits between.

The new A5 is 100% based on the next A4 and not the current A6, it's size has increased in much the same way the the E92 is bigger than the E46.

Like Fab said, the S5 doesn't compete directly with the E92 M3 though in fairness I reckon that it won't disgrace itself if the comparison was made. Audi has clearly choose to distance the S5 models from the M3 or either BMW decided to move the M3 in to direct competition with the RS4/5, but which ever it is the M models are now fair game for the RS4/5/6.

GAME ON.

[MPT]

The new A5 is 100% based on the next A4 and not the current A6, it's size has increased in much the same way the the E92 is bigger than the E46.

Like Fab said, the S5 doesn't compete directly with the E92 M3 though in fairness I reckon that it won't disgrace itself if the comparison was made. Audi has clearly choose to distance the S5 models from the M3 or either BMW decided to move the M3 in to direct competition with the RS4/5, but which ever it is the M models are now fair game for the RS4/5/6.

GAME ON.

Regarding the A5 / A4 you're incorrect!

Yes, the MLP-platform that is used in the A5 will also be used in the new A4 - But it will also be used in the next A6, A7, A8, Q5 and also possibly in the next A3. We will see this in - at least almost - all Audis (and few VW's) in the near future.

"100% based on the next A4" is quite a statement. The aluminum-parts (on the body, and in the suspension) will be too expensive for the next A4 - so that is not the same. The A5 is also bigger, has a more "luxurious" interior, and is better equipped - similar to the A6. It also costs about the same as the A6.

This is not just something i have made up - about the A5 being in another class than the A4. This is what Audi oficially say - just ask a dealer if you don't believe me.

[RussianM3_dude]

So Audi needs a sports version of the a4 to equal a simple top 3er. Ooooo, I am sure BMW is quacking in their boots. For the price difference between the S5 and 335, you can add so many mods, RS4 will get spanked, let alone the S5.