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    Informer,

    I hope you know that SuperstarDriver doesn't speak for all of us here, we are all a little bit more subjective than that.

    As for spinning the wheels in 6th, now I have never had a car do that but I did have a 3/4 race Escort which if the road was greasy would spin the wheels up to 100mph. Scary as f#ck but lots of fun .................. well I was only seventeen at the time and didn't know any better and fear wasn't part of my vocabulary back then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperstarDriver View Post
    why i hate bmw?
    -i only hate bmw, i also like Mercedes Benz, Lexus, VW, Porsche, Lamborghini, Aston Martin, Honda, Infiniti, etc ...but i really really don't like BMW at all...it doesn't fit my style because i'm a desperate driver who needs speed and passion when driving without careing about the weather even when is raining or snowing or icey roads Audi keeps me on the road safely at high speeds!
    SuperstarDriver, I don't understand you. You hate BMW but like Lexus? You think Lexus is a driver's car but BMW is not? I would prefer a BMW to a Lexus.
    I like Audi, but I don't hate BMW. I had the new 3 series, and I liked it. I don't think it is unsafe.

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    I think SuperstarDriver should calm down a bit too. I also like Audi better than BMW...But seriously!

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    I am not going to jump on the bandwagen and dump on the poor guy, his heart is in the right place and in time he will calm down, heck if you check out his first few posts to his most recent you will see it's already starting.

    I reckon by 2020 he will be as laid back as Ben.
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    as i was saying why Mercedes, Porsche, Ferrari, Aston Martin, Jaguar and many more are so confident and deosn't spin the wheeels like bmw does even in the straight line?!For me BMW is only a car for shows nothing more...very very unsafe and very nasty to drive, for example look at the test in the past from S4 vs M3 where M3 was so oversteering that when he tryed to get on the right line of the curve who couldn't and S4 was like a super fast and safe TGV on curves!So bmw as i said again sucks with their ineficient RWD!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperstarDriver View Post
    as i was saying why Mercedes, Porsche, Ferrari, Aston Martin, Jaguar and many more are so confident and deosn't spin the wheeels like bmw does even in the straight line?!For me BMW is only a car for shows nothing more...very very unsafe and very nasty to drive, for example look at the test in the past from S4 vs M3 where M3 was so oversteering that when he tryed to get on the right line of the curve who couldn't and S4 was like a super fast and safe TGV on curves!So bmw as i said again sucks with their ineficient RWD!
    Sorry guys,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leadfoot View Post
    Sorry guys,

    I stand corrected.
    Leadie, your reply cracked me up LOLOL :trash: Yes, superstar may be a bit on the crazy side and while his opinions seem very aggressive against BMW (and most of the time I do not agree with his comments), there needs to be someone like this in the forums. I do not know how to explain it but superstar's passion for audi and his aggression towards BMW in his posts (along with the responses from other forum members) make me laugh. :trash:

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    does a5 have recently mentioned torque vectoring quattro system?

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    as i heard yes and it works super ok but we have to wait the test to see with our eyes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by quattro Gmbh View Post
    does a5 have recently mentioned torque vectoring quattro system?
    I don't know and I have had no luck from any of my sources so I would say no. The logical thing for Audi to do if they had add this expensive technology is to bum and blow about it's ability, but the fact that this hasn't happened lead me to believe it isn't there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damienr8 View Post
    Leadie, your reply cracked me up LOLOL :trash: Yes, superstar may be a bit on the crazy side and while his opinions seem very aggressive against BMW (and most of the time I do not agree with his comments), there needs to be someone like this in the forums. I do not know how to explain it but superstar's passion for audi and his aggression towards BMW in his posts (along with the responses from other forum members) make me laugh. :trash:
    I know what you mean, I too laugh at some of the posts and the fact that no matter how many ridicule him he doesn't seem to get to bouldered.

    Our SuperstarDriver is one of a kind and we can thank the lord for that one.
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    Or maybe Audi doesn't want to make a big deal out of it from a marketing perspective because other models don't have it yet, especially A6 which competes with Acura RL today. I know the chance is too little, but surely hope so.

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    my id name it was not choosed by my head but by my abilities to drive...i always scary a lot of people when driving right to me cause i'm very very crazy driver, i do things that some of people things are imposible or to risky but i always had my passion for supercars and performance cars and i can't imagine me driving an TDI 140HP or more (i do not count Q7 V12 TDI)...i always need power power and power to drive "normally"...for me 35miles/h is a very very slow speed and i'm not capable of driving at this kind of speed...i was getting in a lot of sutpid stuffs with police but never ever had an accident...so...i must say that if you all apreciate my style i will thank you but definitively i will not change...i crazy and i will remain crazy and my opinions about audi will never gonna change!

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    Fourtitude has a very comprehensive account on the new A5/S5

    S5 info here ...

    http://www.fourtitude.com/news/publi....shtml?page=11

    In terms of performance the S5 is said to do 0-200 at 19.1 seconds which is just about the time of a 335i right or perhaps a whee bit faster? I mean, the old S4 v8 did it in about 21, right? and I have seen accounts of the 335i doing it in 19.9. Please do correct me if I am wrong ...

    In any case the articles on the S5 and A5 are well worth a look and indeed black is the true color of Audi's new beauty

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrives View Post
    Fourtitude has a very comprehensive account on the new A5/S5

    S5 info here ...

    http://www.fourtitude.com/news/publi....shtml?page=11

    In terms of performance the S5 is said to do 0-200 at 19.1 seconds which is just about the time of a 335i right or perhaps a whee bit faster? I mean, the old S4 v8 did it in about 21, right? and I have seen accounts of the 335i doing it in 19.9. Please do correct me if I am wrong ...

    In any case the articles on the S5 and A5 are well worth a look and indeed black is the true color of Audi's new beauty
    How sure are you that the 335i takes 19.9s to get to 200km/h, I know that there has been tests showing it posts times of 4.8s to 60mph and 12.1s to 100mph, to take another 7.8s to cover the remaining 25mph does sound a little bit longer than I would have reckoned on. I wouldn't be surprised to see a test showing a 335i doing the 200km/h (125mph) run in the same time of the S5. And remember these figures I am quoting are for an automatic 335i not a manual.

    But lets say that your figures for the 335i are correct and it's best 200km/h (125mph) run is 19.9s and the S5's is 19.1s, where would this leave the S5's time to the 160km/h (100mph) mark ?

    11.8sec maybe or even less, say 11.4sec both times I personally would be very happy with.
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    How sure are you that the 335i takes 19.9s to get to 200km/h, I know that there has been tests showing it posts times of 4.8s to 60mph and 12.1s to 100mph, to take another 7.8s to cover the remaining 25mph does sound a little bit longer than I would have reckoned on.
    Well, not sure at all actually . It seems as if there a lot of numbers flying around. My statement on 19.9 seconds was actually also wrong since I apparently did not look straight when I read this test by Auto Bild. As such they have the 335i at 19.1 as the Audi S5 and not 19.9 like I said above .

    Having said that I also have this quote from another forum where somebody (have no idea who ) quotes different figures, mind you with both 130 mph (208 kph) and 200 kph as the benchmark. Here it then says 20.7 for 335i

    In a sraight line, the M3 is still marginally quicker, from the tests I've seen. Car and Driver recorded 0-60 in 4.9, 0-130 in 21.6 for the 335i. That compares with 4.8 and 20.3 for their M3 est (with SMG). Sport Auto recorded 0-200 kph in 18.1 for the manual M3, 20.7 for the 335i coupe.
    At the end of the day, this only goes to show that there won't much in it between the S5 and 335i although I expect the S5 to beat it on the ring since even a S4 v8 seems to be at par with it based on the times I have seen. I agree with you that 0-160kph in about 11.5 seconds for the S5 would be very good indeed, especially since we are talking straight line accelaration.

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    First drive of the s5, and they don not like it.
    They prefere the 335i.

    They think the styling is BORING, how the hell can they think that, the writer must love BMW

    http://autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/Firs...FSI-S5/225288/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subzero View Post
    First drive of the s5, and they don not like it.
    They prefere the 335i.

    They think the styling is BORING, how the hell can they think that, the writer must love BMW

    http://autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/Firs...FSI-S5/225288/
    Autocar has been in BMW's back pocket for years. This review means very little as to what we will feel the S5 will really be like. But one thing that is true in their statement is that the S5 will have a harder time justify it's price over that of the 335i, especially in the UK as the S5 is £3.5K more expensive even when the two cars are specced the same.

    It all comes down to personal choice, Audi or BMW, awd or rwd, V8 or 6 Bi-turbo.

    But you do have to keep in mind that this is only a first drive and a short one at that, wait to see how the car compares when it reviewed in a full test in familiar roads. This might change their first impressions.
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