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Thread: Official: Audi A5 To Debut at Geneva 2007

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    Guys,

    I was just informed that the A5 will be the first Audi to have a S-model in diesel form as well as the traditional petrol. It will be a twin-turbo version of the current 3.0TDi only this one will be alloy like the R10 race car. I have no idea as yet when it will be launched or how much it will be packing compared to the petrol, but best guess is 315hp.

    Exciting times are ahead.
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    I think the exspectations of the new A5 are to high.
    It will be a big and probably very heavy car.
    And need a lot of horsepower to perform.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leadfoot View Post
    Guys,

    I was just informed that the A5 will be the first Audi to have a S-model in diesel form as well as the traditional petrol. It will be a twin-turbo version of the current 3.0TDi only this one will be alloy like the R10 race car. I have no idea as yet when it will be launched or how much it will be packing compared to the petrol, but best guess is 315hp.

    Exciting times are ahead.
    Intriguing !!

    Are you referring to the engine (block) being alloy?

    Isn't that a bit specialised for a production diesel, and a tad unnecessary (unless the weight balance in the MLB platform is still too nose heavy).

    Why would Audi not base it on the current block? Sounds like a lot of investment for little gain. Now that Porshe have control of the purse strings, I thought they would want to economise a little (unless Porsche want it of course )
    I would imagine the production output to be closer to BMWs 3.0ltr (335d/535d) - 280-300hp. - just on the fact that I cant see production diesels going above 100hp/litre.
    Hope I'm wrong - I hope that this engine smokes (no pun intended) BMWs 3.0 diesel unit.
    Audi do need to catch up here. This about the only size/type engine that BMW have a better unit than Audi at the moment (urrgh - I feel unclean after admitting that and will now have to go shower )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateknight View Post
    Intriguing !!

    Are you referring to the engine (block) being alloy?

    Isn't that a bit specialised for a production diesel, and a tad unnecessary (unless the weight balance in the MLB platform is still too nose heavy).

    Why would Audi not base it on the current block? Sounds like a lot of investment for little gain. Now that Porshe have control of the purse strings, I thought they would want to economise a little (unless Porsche want it of course )
    I would imagine the production output to be closer to BMWs 3.0ltr (335d/535d) - 280-300hp. - just on the fact that I cant see production diesels going above 100hp/litre.
    Hope I'm wrong - I hope that this engine smokes (no pun intended) BMWs 3.0 diesel unit.
    Audi do need to catch up here. This about the only size/type engine that BMW have a better unit than Audi at the moment (urrgh - I feel unclean after admitting that and will now have to go shower )
    Not to give sticky any ideas but the MLB chassis is still a little nose heavy but there is lots of improvement that have been achieved other than just shifting the weight, so lets not dwell of it too much.

    Audi, BMW and others have all been looking to lighten the diesel engine and up until the R10 was produced no one thought that an alloy diesel engine would ever make it to production never mind race and the win. Audi's achievements have open the way and with their knowledge from the R10 anything is possible. The twin-turbo engine is a sure thing, it will be in the A4/5/6/8 within two years if not sooner but if it will be alloy is unsure, all of this it speculation, rumours and whispers just in the same way as the RS6 will be N/A or turboed, only I am said is it is a possibility that is being looked at and only time will tell if this does become a reality.

    I reckon it will produce 315hp only because it's the S-model and the engine is to be released in the standard A4 with a power around the figure that the Beemer produces. Check any tuner site and you will see that the 535d and 335d can be tuned with only a chip to produce around the figure I have suggested.
    Search and you will find the truth.

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    audi is the leader in the premium range of Diesel engines and petrol engines...so...bmw sucks...V10 from M5 really sounds nasty...yacc....i prefer an ventilator than the sound of the V10 from M5 and M6))RS4...that's an egine...
    and we all know what will do the new V12TDI from Q7...it will kick BMW 4.8.i ass...

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    Well I am sure you all know that Audi decided not to show the A5. They did show the R8, the Q7 V12 TDI, and a Q7 with a smaller diesel engine. There also was a Q7 modified by MTM on display outside the show, but I missed taking pictures of it. Anyone want any of the other models shown let me know.

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