Doesn't sound like you've been to Vegas then...Originally Posted by LamboM
As for the car, you started this thread two months ago and running out of time. My point, you'd be best off just finding any car that is cheap. You're only 16, and have your entire life to get better cars.
Ben
Einstein once said, "I want to know God's thoughts, the rest are details."
Ron Paul Fan
Well I can't just buy any car there are a lot of things to concider
as metioned on the other replys
besides buying cheap is getting cheap trust me I know that...
So I just can't go arround and buy every cheap car I see I need to know what to buy I, I need you people to help me with that
After all you guys are professionals...
I'm tring to get more money but it's not so easy...
Maybe you guys have a car for sell?
A BMW M3' M5 or audi of some sort for 5600 USD?
(I know that you won't agree but I keep on hoping Is this hope in vain or not?)
Well now, let's see.
Honda Prelude, Honda Civic, Golf TDI, Nissan Primera, Infinitis, MX6s, Peugeot 306s, etc. have all been suggested. But they were either "too expensive" or some other reason. So what else to suggest, I have no idea. It sounds like you want everything for nothing, can't help you there...
As for the S4 for $5600.00, well, maybe a MkI in somewhat good condition, but unless the proverbial mana falls from the sky, you're screwed. Either pay up, or buy something cheap!
Ben
Einstein once said, "I want to know God's thoughts, the rest are details."
Ron Paul Fan
Owning a 306 GTI I can only say it made me happy for the last 7 years, very good and safe handling, especially for a young driver, and still fast in todays standards. If you can live with the not so german build quality I'd recommend it (and it still looks a lot better than a golf 3/4 imho) My story ends bad though, unfortunately, some douche smashed into it while it was parked and then drove away, (impact around the right wheel, hit the suspension too) since that moment it never drove the same. Which is why I'm replacing it in the near future
i would suggest then a 92 - 93 honda accord, those are very easy to repair, and they are good cars, if u find an EX-R model, u have hit the jackpot, its really fast enaugh for a new driver...
heaven for the climate, hell for company
Well I've found a job so I might be able to rais the budget
As for the 306 GTI I'm sure it's great but as I siad I couldn't foind any
Same with the honda accord 1992-3 all I've found is 1999+ with price tags of
9000$+
But here are a few cars I've found under my budget:
- 1999 BMW 520 95,000 KM black (but something is a little fishy)
- Chevrolet lumina (they were all cheap)
- A normal 306 (they were all cheap as well)
- Renault clio (all of them cheap)
- Chrysler Stratos (all cheap)
- Audi A - 6 1997
- 1993 Audi S - 3
So which ones should I be consider?
First, congrats on the job, as that will help.
Second, write off the Lumina and Stratos. The BMW, A6 or S3 would all be fine choices.
Ben
Einstein once said, "I want to know God's thoughts, the rest are details."
Ron Paul Fan
Thanks.
But what is wrong with the Lumina and Stratos?
I mean I know that these are big american cars and those usually heandle rubbish and most big american cars are not so reliable but is that the same story with those 2?
Yeah well as for the BMW, it caught my eye but there is something fishy about it.
I meaan it costs 7100$
A 2.5 liter engine
and it did 95,000 KM (which is not too bad) Isn't that too cheap for a BMW?
Is it relyable and cheap to run?
And there is no photo so I am worried
Nothing... but you said you wanted a good first car!Seriously, they're reliable enough, but the anti-excitement mobiles. If you want a cheap American car that is reliable, but also fun, try a late 80's/early 90/91' Camaro Z28. Yes, the handling is rubbish, but they are fun as all get out and still as reliable as the Stratos/Lumina, but with FUN!
Ben
Einstein once said, "I want to know God's thoughts, the rest are details."
Ron Paul Fan
Please don't hurt yourself!!... :360: :360: :360: :360:
1993 S3????? Something isn't correct here... Standard A3 came out 1996....
Where do you live? Cause here in France 306 GTIs are easy to find, but if you're young and on a limited budget, go for a very very fun Saxo VTS/106 GTI, they are cheap, easy to tune if you're into it, and boy are they fun on a track... And if you have about 8000 euros, a 206 S16... a blast (PS i usually hate french cars!!)
EDIT: you live in israel sorry, just read
Last edited by Charles DLF; February 21st, 2007 at 09:26.
hahahah so funny
That's a joke for 5 year olds
So are you 5?
Any way..
Well it might be easy to find in france because after almost all peugeot are built there (if I'm now misstaking some are built in britain and some more places)
That's why they are so easy to find in here they are hard to find (atleast through the internet that is..)
this is the S-3 I was talking about:
It is an S-3 isn't it???
And what do you think I should go for the BMW?
Because look at the details and the prize don't you think it's fishy?
Buy this...
...current bid is only $200 US
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2005-...ayphotohosting
That's actually an S2 if my eyes are correct. Hot car...I would definetelly go for it, but remember : Cars need to be taken care of...and Audis are far from cheap
-service and spare parts- from a student budget point of view.
BTW...make a bit on that 430...
Saludos,
Javier
I guess you can have a bus card for cuple years and plenty of taxi rides with that kind of money! on the other hand if is 4 weels you are looking for you should not go for performance but safety.... That kind of money cannot get you anywhere fast or sporty so compromising to get something as fast as possible in that range might lead you to give up on safety. that is really the worst you could do. go for a robust car that can protect you well. something that in case of an accident will resist.
Afeter all you are young if you are at your first and in no time you will make enough money to buy yourself a safe and fast car!!!
My first car was a W Golf with 60 hp. 1.6 tons 0 to 100 km in 2 weeks or so. i crashed it several imes and twice really bad. The last accident I had I rolled over and amcked a tree. That car sasved my life! it was not fast but safe. since then I had 4 more cas (average of 2 years per car) and the horses and performances went up from car to car. So did my skills and passion for driving.
Back then I was thinking that having such a slow and shit car sucked. looking back I'm thinking that if the choice for a fast but unsafe car (like the FIat Uno Turbo or the Punto GT - old hot hatches you probably will not konw) I would not be here writing this message and more than that I would not be driving my marvellous RS4!!!!
I'm still in my 20 so I guess you will not have to wait long if you work hard for it!
One more thing. if you gradually build up to the performance you are able to enjoy it much much more...
Yeah sure I'll bed on it
It is now 255,000 So cheap it is a bargain....
Now back to the real world
You're right MS So what are the safest cars up to 5900 USD?
And about the future you got lucky for being so sucsessful so early
What I want to do in my life is more complicated:
I've narrow the list of things of what I want to do with my life to just 2
profession:
- psychologist - which is (from what I've heard) a very hard one
- Car designer - That one is even harder, if I really want this one to succeeed
I'm gonna have to go with aerodynamic engineering and mechanical engineering
now the good things about those 2 are that they both can bring buckets load of money (at least psychology I don't know much about how car desighning works do they make a lot of money there? I mean the engineers).
And they both fascinates me.
Now for the bad things:
Untill you earn reputation in those 2 and start making money, it could take a long time maybe even very long time.... ( at least psychology As I said I don't know about car designing industry)
And I'm not sure where to find a job here in israel or back in europe because I have a problem:
I might have been born in Rumania and they are about to become a part of europe
but, For some reason my dad didin't keep the citizenship so I technically I was born in Israel and from what I know it is almost impossible to get in to europe unless you have a citizenship in there somewhere...
And the car industry is very poore in here And I think that car designing will eventually be my choice
SO you see my point?
(sorry if it's too long but please read it all)
Two things on that matter, one if you were BORN in Rumania, you legally have the Rumanian citizenship, all you have to do is ask for your passport... might be long and a little complicated, but you are rumanian, even if you father is now an israeli. Two, even if you are an israeli, you can come work here in Europe, not a big deal, anyone can ask for a working visa, and let's be honnest, not the hardest thing to get for a young man, well educated, willing to work (i.e. not live off state helps). Three (yeah now i have three points), Rumania is already part of the EU... There is no "techicallity" on where you were born, you were born somewhere, full stop!
And the car industry is very poore in here And I think that car designing will eventually be my choice
Car designing is very challenging, and before you start making "bucket loads" of money, it will take some time. Sure, if you find a job (quite hard to start with), you will earn a decent salary, but becoming very wealthy in this buisness is quite hard, as you will need to be some top notch in your buisness, and that alone is very hard.
My advise on this entire thread is indeed to take the bus for a few years, save some money, and buy yourself a very nice car when you have a certain income, which will allow you to run it, service it, insure it...
He said he owns a RS 4 and is still in his 20's. How is this "Lucky"? Hard work is more likely responsible than "luck". There are several of us that bought a RS in our 20's, I'd like to think is was more than dumb "luck".
Work hard, be smart, you too can succeed.
Ben
Einstein once said, "I want to know God's thoughts, the rest are details."
Ron Paul Fan
Well it's no that simple
europe is a closed continent I know that I lived there
I know I will have problems going back there
And yes it is a big problem for people to enter europe even to the most educated of them all. here is something I learned in the Knesset (Israel's parliament)
We've had a tour there when we go our identity card.
Now before we got them we've had a meeting with someone form the Department of Immigration and Citizenship and he presented us with this question:
2 people come in to israel one is french and the other is german
Now the german owns 7 company and he is extremly rich
And the french is an average person
Now at this point you're probably thinking hmm let's take the gereman he can contribute a lot to the country But wait it is not that simple
Ok so he has a lot of money but you can't just ignore the other one after all he is also a human being now isn't he?
So you see my piont??
Ans it is even more complicated than (with europe) that because from what I see
the EU doen't like the idea of Immigration, after all people keep Immigrating to europe from arround the world, and they are tring to keep the economy healthy.
After all if all the jobs will be taken by none European people then the whole economy will collapse and they can't let that happen now can they?
Now as for the car desighing I know it's not easy I never said it is...
Psycolagy is one of the hardest courses in universty and aerodynamic and mechanical engineering are even harder because it contains a lot of math and physic and so on and so on...
Now 2 thing that I can say about my self is that:
1. I'm am absolutely not a quitter, for me to quit something it needs to be really really really hard...
2. I am quite creative and that's important in the car industry now isn't is?
And as for for public transportation, back here it is useless and absolute and total rubbish!!! I've been going in buses every morning to school ever since I moved here and it is Rubbish, sometimes a bus that should get every 5 munits get's after 20!!!! And it desn't end there there are places that are loaded with bus lines
and places that no bus line goes through there so what I'm saing is that agin it is rubbish rubbish rubbish rubbish rubbish!!!!!!!!
there are subway stations or thing like that (there are trains of curse but only for the long ranges when you need to move from city to city they are very good but not from place to place in town)
Tha's why car is so important here
Algthou cars also have some problems here:
- Cost
- And parking space (only where I live, in the big city of Tel Aviv and the rest of the country it's not that bad)
But I prefer to look for a prking space than waiting for a bus
Agin I'm sorry if it's long but please read it
Last edited by LamboM; February 27th, 2007 at 21:44.
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