R8 5.2 V10 Fsi.

[Iceman]

It start to look like that the Audi R8 5.2 V10 FSI will get 480 hp.
More power will put it to close to the Gallardo, power and money wise.

Hans.

[quattro Gmbh]

i think +60 hp won't make much difference.

[Iceman]

i think +60 hp won't make much difference.

Maybe not, but it will sound a lot better with a V10.

Hans.

[Leadfoot]

Hans, I hope not. 480horses wouldn't let it keep up with the M5 let never mind the M6 which is it's direct competitor as well as being cheaper. If true it's not a case of keeping it below the Gallardo as much as not letting it run away from the 997Turbo. Looks like Porsche is having to much of a say in Audi's affairs if you ask me.

[Erik]

Already the RS4 is quicker than the M5 around the Ring

[Leadfoot]

Already the RS4 is quicker than the M5 around the Ring

I know Erik, but you know as well as I that the M6 is the thick kid at the back of the class when it comes to handling in such company so any races that it will be doing against a R8 will be straight line acceleration and I somehow doubt 480hp will cut it.

[Benman]

I somehow doubt 480hp will cut it.

At least, on paper it won't. The bench racers will be most dissapointed...

Ben

[Leadfoot]

At least, on paper it won't. The bench racers will be most dissapointed...

Ben

Ben,

I agree with you that the R8 will whip a M6 in real world driving as well as the track but somehow doubt it will win in a straight line drag race which if you listen to most of us on this forum only do.

Another point worth making is if the talk is to be believed the next RS6 will also whip the R8v10 in a drag race and this will be most displeasing to potential owners of what is meant to be the sportiest of all Audi models and the connection with Motor-sport/Le Mans victories.

If chewym is correct and the standard R8 will match the M5 then Audi are being very conservative with their figures.

[dsts6]

Why is the gallardo slower then the M6 if its weighs less and has more power? Is it the gearing?

[m3fan]

The FSI V10 should have 500hp. Is the V10 really gonna be worth an extra
20-30K more for 60 extra horse power? The Gallardo has 520hp but will be upgraded to 550 for 08. Audi needs to give the R8 V10 500hp to compete with the M6(507hp 383ft) SL55(510hp 531ft) Viper(515hp 535ft). I also guessing that the torque will be around 350ft because the Gallardo is at 376ft.

[Lateknight]

The FSI V10 should have 500hp. Is the V10 really gonna be worth an extra
20-30K more for 60 extra horse power? The Gallardo has 520hp but will be upgraded to 550 for 08. Audi needs to give the R8 V10 500hp to compete with the M6(507hp 383ft) SL55(510hp 531ft) Viper(515hp 535ft). I also guessing that the torque will be around 350ft because the Gallardo is at 376ft.

I expect the torque to be similar as the 5.2 in the S8 - 398lb/ft (540nm) -it is a larger engine

So thats more than the M5/M6 engine. (383lb/ft)

Remember to create horsepower you've got to get the engine to rev. Bmws V10 goes to 8250rpm (same as RS4 V8). Lambo 5.0 gets to 7800rpm, the current Audi 5.2 runs out of steam at about 7000rpm.

It is a little bit worrying that a Gallardo cannot outsprint an M6 though. (I didn't know that), considering the lighter weight and similar outputs.

[RXBG]

disagree 100%

the torque will be about the same. the V10 R8 will weigh at least 400 pounds less than the M6. the M6 makes only 20 more hp. why would the R8 be slower?

an R8 with a 480 hp engine will def be faster. look, the V8 will likely pull 0-60 times in the 4.2 second range. that is already faster than an M6. although the M6 will catch and pass the V8 R8 at higher speeds it will never be able to catch the V10, which will have gobs more torque. and the V10 will pull 0-60 times of 4.0 seconds flat....

yikes!

this R8 is really special. it seems to be 90% as fast as the gallardo, with almost 100 fewer horses......... i am sure it makes 440 horses. even then......there is a je ne se qua about the whole thing.........

[sticky]

disagree 100%

the torque will be about the same. the V10 R8 will weigh at least 400 pounds less than the M6. the M6 makes only 20 more hp. why would the R8 be slower?

an R8 with a 480 hp engine will def be faster. look, the V8 will likely pull 0-60 times in the 4.2 second range. that is already faster than an M6. although the M6 will catch and pass the V8 R8 at higher speeds it will never be able to catch the V10, which will have gobs more torque. and the V10 will pull 0-60 times of 4.0 seconds flat....

yikes!

this R8 is really special. it seems to be 90% as fast as the gallardo, with almost 100 fewer horses......... i am sure it makes 440 horses. even then......there is a je ne se qua about the whole thing.........

Why would the R8 be slower? I don't know, because the gallardo is? AWD saps power at higher speeds. The M5/M6 have a 7 speed and rwd. The M5/M6 motor revs higher. Weight doesn't mean as much once rolling.

And for the people quoting 0-60 numbers, who cares? An AWD car will always have better 0-60, on the autobahn and at higher speeds the M cars rule.

Audi needs to stop the BS and put the new RS6 motor (twin turbo v10) in the R8 and lay the smackdown on everyone. Instead of holding the R8 back audi needs to make it a legend. I won't give a crap about a 911 turbo or anything for that matter if they just put the twin turbo v10 in it. Audi would then get the respect it deserves.

[sticky]

I expect the torque to be similar as the 5.2 in the S8 - 398lb/ft (540nm) -it is a larger engine

So thats more than the M5/M6 engine. (383lb/ft)

Remember to create horsepower you've got to get the engine to rev. Bmws V10 goes to 8250rpm (same as RS4 V8). Lambo 5.0 gets to 7800rpm, the current Audi 5.2 runs out of steam at about 7000rpm.

It is a little bit worrying that a Gallardo cannot outsprint an M6 though. (I didn't know that), considering the lighter weight and similar outputs.

The gallardo motor revs past 8k, don't know where you get your info.

Even if the 5.2 makes just slightly more torque it doesn't matter. The torque multiplication through the range is greater with the 7 speed on the M5/M6.

[Lateknight]

The gallardo motor revs past 8k, don't know where you get your info.

Even if the 5.2 makes just slightly more torque it doesn't matter. The torque multiplication through the range is greater with the 7 speed on the M5/M6.

Correct,.. the Gallardos max power is at 7800rpm, not what it revs to - my mistake. Making its max power in about the same rpms as the Beemer V10.

I'd like to hear your explanation of 'Torque multiplication through the range' though.
Are you suggesting the Beemers lower geared?

[sticky]

Correct,.. the Gallardos max power is at 7800rpm, not what it revs to - my mistake. Making its max power in about the same rpms as the Beemer V10.

I'd like to hear your explanation of 'Torque multiplication through the range' though.
Are you suggesting the Beemers lower geared?

Exactly, it is effectively lower geared in each gear. Having an extra gear it allows more torque under the curve in each gear. Gear multiplications only goes so far however, but on a 200 mph car that has all its power at 6k and up 7 gears make sense.

The gallardo was geared terribly. The pre- 06 models that is, hitting 60+ in first gear. The new SE with 520 hp supposedly is right there with the M5/M6. Still makes you wonder why it needs new gearing and extra hp just to keep pace with a much heavier car. The M5 v10 seems to be a bit more impressive.

[chewym]

The regular R with the V8 should match the M6 in straightline acceleration. But, I do agree that 480 would be a bit dissapointing.

[sticky]

The regular R with the V8 should match the M6 in straightline acceleration. But, I do agree that 480 would be a bit dissapointing.

It should, but it won't. The gallardo doesn't match the M6 why would the R8?

480 hp is a joke, not even worth it. Shouldn't a mid engine sports car with a v10 be quicker than a sedan like the M5? Come on audi, do something interesting. Mercedes knows how make a statement with engine power.