supercharger

[onelove]

Is all quiet on the supercharger homefront?? Are we left with just mtm to suffer the incredulous price tag???

[discobiscuit]

I spoke to QST tuning today. Sad news. He reckons the MTM supercharger is going to be £14,500-£15,000 supplied and fitted. Oow. I spoke to them three months ago and he said maybe £12,000ish (the same as the S4 upgrade), I thought that was bad enough. It will put the tourque up over 500nm though and so release all that bottom end power.
Sad times.
:cry:

[Leadfoot]

Yeah, £12k is a hell of a lot of money, but look at it another way, the RS4 has already be rated as a better car than the M5 in almost all car mags even though it's a bit slower. Now with this bit of kit you have the ability to give your RS4 the power and performance to equal or better it and for the same overall price.:dig:

This just makes the king even stronger.:king:

[onelove]

Yes the hp/tq rating may be up to RS4 snuff but let's not forget the drc as well as lambo brakes and dual stage exhaust. Those things added bring the price tag beyond msrp RS4. Oh well, just have to make do with my little old putt putt S4 :0) J/K

[cally]

cool are there any website or information on where to purchase it?? and how many horse power does it bring up to?? thats so cool.

[discobiscuit]

MTM are of course a german company and you can contact them directly. They have run the final tests and are now mass producing the components. If you are in England then contact QSTuning who are the main(or only, i can't remember) MTM distributer/fitter here.
nice

[PoloBoy]

SKN also got a SC kit for the new RS4:

http://www.skn-tuning.de/product.aspx?productid=16826&TabID=3331

[cally]

Are those two boulded column of word are the changes that the chip can make?

[Mr Balsen]

For MTM, they are still working on the developpement. Engine management done by two ECUs and the FSI are two challenges. It should be ready in next couple of weeks....

Cheers,
Frederic

[cally]

woooo, for that chip it cost 12,990 Eur , so expensive

[PoloBoy]

woooo, for that chip it cost 12,990 Eur , so expensive

It`s a supercharger kit! ;)

[Julz RS4]

For MTM, they are still working on the developpement. Engine management done by two ECUs and the FSI are two challenges. It should be ready in next couple of weeks....

Thanks Fred for the updated, because I was wondering recently when the MTM supercharged kit will be ready. :revs:

[cally]

do u think that 12,990 Eur for the supercharge kit is cheap or expensive?? i dont know the price range of modifying a kit like that for a car....... And also are there any computer chip or other things to modify??

[cally]

are there any movie with the supercharge kit on??

[gnomik007]

Do you think the same supercharger could be easily a part of R8 SC kit?

I mean the engine is the same,isn't it?If there was simply some space for the sc and weeeee..... I believe with sc kit on R8 should outperform gallardo!

[m3fan]

Do you think the same supercharger could be easily a part of R8 SC kit?

I mean the engine is the same,isn't it?If there was simply some space for the sc and weeeee..... I believe with sc kit on R8 should outperform gallardo!

Good call. The R8 with the SC should be a freak.:dig: Simliar power to the Gallardo but lighter.

[sticky]

Good call. The R8 with the SC should be a freak.:dig: Simliar power to the Gallardo but lighter.
If a supercharger kit ever comes out. Tuning for naturally aspirated audi motors is exceptionally weak. If e46 m3's and the 997 S can have a supercharger I don't get why the RS4 couldn't. MTM's supercharger is way too expensive for what you get, it is ridiculous and not really a solution.

There still isn't a reliable b6 S4 solution so don't get your hopes up for a supercharger.

[RXBG]

a SC S4 or RS4 would be faster than all heck. the latter would probably put an M6 to shame. not a bad use of 25K (US) if you want a truly unique car..... i'd consider it if i had the cashola

[cally]

do u guys think that if the RS4 has the supercharge kit on it will it be as fast as porshe turbo??

[m3fan]

do u guys think that if the RS4 has the supercharge kit on it will it be as fast as porshe turbo??

Fastest 0-60 for the B7 RS4 was 4.3. Fastest 0-60 for 997 turbo was 3.4(auto). I guess it could be.:thumb:

[onelove]

according to the little birdies in the trees, vf engineering is coming out with one before years end for the B6/B7 S4 platform. 470ish HP under $10k

[cally]

Is it all standard RS4 will 0-100 km/h is 4.8 sec?? will running in the car make the result a big differences?

[cally]

I would like to know if i bought the supercharge kit will it be too aggressive to the engine?? or its ok... and are there any needs to change any parts to adapt it?

[cally]

anyone can help thx.

[KK265]

anyone can help thx.

I think there is a man who can help you.Look at this:
http://www.rs246.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=58172&sid=86883bb6ee73737b53bd04bb20f62042

[craiglieberman]

I would like to know if i bought the supercharge kit will it be too aggressive to the engine?? or its ok... and are there any needs to change any parts to adapt it?

Part of the problem with people posting non-descriptive tidbits about the MTM (or any supercharger kit) is that they fail to identify the following:

Boost levels achieved
Wheel HP achieved
How did they handle engine management, i.e. ECU upgrades?
Fuel system issues...how did they up the fuel pressure?

In addition, it is important to remember that the RS4 motor is a completely different animal than the S4 motor.

The static compression ratio is significantly higher (11.0:1 vs. 12.5:1)and the fuel delivery method (direct injection) and as a result, will not be able to withstand the same cylinder pressures (or boost levels) as will a lower compression B7 S4 motor, unless the crank, pistons and rods are significantly stronger than the S4's.

I do not know enough about the differences in those components to comment intelligently there, so perhaps someone else who does could weigh in on this item.

In short, until I see data on what power and boost levels were achieved and what safeties are in place to ensure motor longevity, I'm not seriously considering this mod at any price.

Last but not least, rest assured that this mod WILL void your factory powertrain warranty, at least here in the US, as item item that fails from head gaskets to clutch, axles, etc. could all conceivably be blamed on the added stresses generated by significantly increasing power.

[Mr Balsen]

Well MTM is looking on all those areas to come up with a complete kit. MTM has been working for more than 3 years on kompressor kit and has now installed on different car like A8, S4, Q7, Touareg and so on. Car like the Audi A8 MTM K500 has been tested to the limit at Nardo. Hundred of kilometers of german autobahn have been done for more testing. Yes the R8 has specifics about its V8 engine. Once MTM has finished the kompressor kit for the RS4 V8, they will see for the R8.....

Cheers,
Frederic

[boondocksts]

Well MTM is looking on all those areas to come up with a complete kit. MTM has been working for more than 3 years on kompressor kit and has now installed on different car like A8, S4, Q7, Touareg and so on. Car like the Audi A8 MTM K500 has been tested to the limit at Nardo. Hundred of kilometers of german autobahn have been done for more testing. Yes the R8 has specifics about its V8 engine. Once MTM has finished the kompressor kit for the RS4 V8, they will see for the R8.....

Cheers,
FredericThe person on the other board who claims to have one says its 580hp and available now, is this true? If so, what else comes with the kit besides software/supercharger?

[Mr Balsen]

The person on the other board who claims to have one says its 580hp and available now, is this true? If so, what else comes with the kit besides software/supercharger?

Well, the car is on the dyno at the moment. I hope to provide you more information very soon....

Cheers,
Frederic

[cally]

Wow MTM supercharge is 580 bhp way better than SKN 520 bhp. In Hong Kong, there is an new open MTM branch and i called them yesterday asking for the information on the supercharger kit, but they said theres no such thing in MTM product and called me to do some more research:argue: . Do you guys think becos they are still testing this kit in other countries and they know about this product on test and will be on sales soon??

[KK265]

Well, the car is on the dyno at the moment. I hope to provide you more information very soon....

Cheers,
Frederic

Better to ask the MTM distributor ( Mr Tryfonidis Prodromos) in Greece.He allegates that he has allready 4 kits available!!!!Look at asioutas post please...He knows a lot more than Mr Mayer.

[Mr Balsen]

Better to ask the MTM distributor ( Mr Tryfonidis Prodromos) in Greece.He allegates that he has allready 4 kits available!!!!Look at asioutas post please...He knows a lot more than Mr Mayer.

Well I am the MTM Distributor for France ! ! ! !
And my information came from a direct phone call to MTM Germany yesterday morning....

cheers,
Frederic

[KK265]

Well I am the MTM Distributor for France ! ! ! !
And my information came from a direct phone call to MTM Germany yesterday morning....

cheers,
Frederic
I do not know you Mr.Balsen but i beleive you completely!I was speaking ironically for Greek distributor.I know Mr Tryfonidis but i DO NOT BELEIVE him........I will show you another time if you want some pics of my previous engine ( MTM reprogrammed) which completely blowed up.....I need some time to find the pictures in a back up cd.

Best Regards from Greece

[cally]

My god, how was it?? is your car fixed by now?

[KK265]

My god, how was it?? is your car fixed by now?

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9991/1ya6.th.jpg (http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1ya6.jpg)

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/4360/2ef3.th.jpg (http://img58.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2ef3.jpg)

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/8600/3kx8.th.jpg (http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3kx8.jpg)

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/7348/4bj0.th.jpg (http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4bj0.jpg)

My car had after this a completely new engine,turbo,exhaust manifold and after 20.000 km a new owner!!I payed for everything......

[Mr Balsen]

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9991/1ya6.th.jpg (http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1ya6.jpg)

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/4360/2ef3.th.jpg (http://img58.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2ef3.jpg)

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/8600/3kx8.th.jpg (http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3kx8.jpg)

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/7348/4bj0.th.jpg (http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4bj0.jpg)

My car had after this a completely new engine,turbo,exhaust manifold and after 20.000 km a new owner!!I payed for everything......

I am really sorry for what happen to you and I am very interested to know how the matter what handled, and also which MTM Product was installed on your car. And you can count on me a detailed email will be sent directly to Roland Mayer.....

Feel free to send me Private Message if you prefer to do so.

Cheers,
Frederic

[KK265]

I am really sorry for what happen to you and I am very interested to know how the matter what handled, and also which MTM Product was installed on your car. And you can count on me a detailed email will be sent directly to Roland Mayer.....

Feel free to send me Private Message if you prefer to do so.

Cheers,
Frederic

I send you a PM.

[KK265]

Well, the car is on the dyno at the moment. I hope to provide you more information very soon....

Cheers,
Frederic

Is the kit ready?

http://www.rs246.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=58573&sid=7395c2cc562fdecb678aff2e1b973028
Performance data sounds very good...

[Lateknight]

Audi driver magazine (uk mag) have an article on the MTM K540 RS4 in this months edition.

http://www.audidrivermag.co.uk/

[cally]

Is the book out yet? does it tells you all the information about the Supercharge kit?

[Mr Balsen]

Well it is my understanding that the RS4 in the report is dark green. Can you please confirm ?

Cheers,
Frederic

[Lateknight]

Well it is my understanding that the RS4 in the report is dark green. Can you please confirm ?

Cheers,
Frederic

Yes. Dark green with carbon effect rear end.

If I can get my old scanner working again, I'll get the article posted on here.

[Mr Balsen]

Yes. Dark green with carbon effect rear end.

If I can get my old scanner working again, I'll get the article posted on here.

Well here is the problem. See below the only Audi RS4 V8 with an MTM Supercharger:

http://www.mtm-france.com/reportages/2006/Hockenheim/DSC00081.jpg

Again, this is the only one Worldwide ! ! !

Cheers,
Frederic

[cally]

it has a black thing on top hahahaha

[RSX]

Yes. Dark green with carbon effect rear end.

If I can get my old scanner working again, I'll get the article posted on here.

The description sounds just like this [MTM] car:

http://www.mtm-france.com/reportages/2006/RS4V8MTMFullCarbon/RS4V8MTMFullCarbon14.jpg

And as far I know this car is NOT supercharged. Is there a photo of the supercharger under the hood of the car in the article?

[Mr Balsen]

Well they have mixed up pictures from both cars ! ! !

Because the Supercharger kit is still under developpment.....

Shame on this magazine to have such attitude.

Cheers,
Frederic

[Lateknight]

Absolutely correct Mr Balsen, (as you should be)

Looking at the articles pictures, the are mostly the dark green car you depicted (registration EI06083) but the one picture of the engine bay is from a light blue car :blush:

They have not driven it at all have they. :eek: