Video: RS6 vs M3

[johann]

Don't know why this hasn't been posted yet since the RS4 vs M# video founds it's way here anoyingly quick. ;)

I'll let the video speak for itself:

http://www.bmwm5.com/movies/rs6bmwm5com.mpg

Must say that I was suprised by the result.

Cheers,
/Johan

[gnomik007]

It is definately not what most of us would expect.To be honest,my friend has got 2002 M3 and it definately feels quicker than my RS6,although all the magazines say that RS is a faster car
:confused:

[eph94]

The RS6 probably needed to downshift while the M3 was waiting to floor it in the right gear. Just a guess.

[Erik]

I didn't know these videos were online yet...(except at sportbilen.se for a charge)

[johann]

Originally posted by JJV-MA
The RS6 probably needed to downshift while the M3 was waiting to floor it in the right gear. Just a guess.

Nope.

[Snow]

I can't see the video. Maybe they've moved the thread?

[eph94]

Originally posted by johann
Nope.

Yikes! That M3 is one fast car. Hmm, maybe I should begin the long lobbying process of convincing the wifey that an E46 M3 convertible SMG-II would be a nice third car to add to the stable as a summer cruiser, even if we just lease one for 3 years.

I'm still waiting for my dealer phone call on the RS6. I'm in the double digits on the waiting list, so I'm wondering if that call will ever come. In the meantime, I'll have to continue to slum it in the 540. :-) I can't wait until the winter tires come off...

[johann]

Originally posted by Snow
I can't see the video. Maybe they've moved the thread?

Try to right-click and "Save target as..."

Cheers,
/Johan

[johann]

Originally posted by JJV-MA
Yikes! That M3 is one fast car. Hmm, maybe I should begin the long lobbying process of convincing the wifey that an E46 M3 convertible SMG-II would be a nice third car to add to the stable as a summer cruiser, even if we just lease one for 3 years.

I'm still waiting for my dealer phone call on the RS6. I'm in the double digits on the waiting list, so I'm wondering if that call will ever come. In the meantime, I'll have to continue to slum it in the 540. :-) I can't wait until the winter tires come off...

An E46 M3 Cabrio SMG II is just what you, ehem I mean your wife needs. :)

The 540 ois good but the RS6 is much better so I can understand your agony but good things will come to those who wait. :)

Cheers,
/Johan

[Gabriel343]

Originally posted by johann
Don't know why this hasn't been posted yet since the RS4 vs M# video founds it's way here anoyingly quick. ;)

I'll let the video speak for itself:

http://www.bmwm5.com/movies/rs6bmwm5com.mpg

Must say that I was suprised by the result.

Cheers,
/Johan
:0: :D :D

[BBGT2]

Fixed, fixed I tell you. I dont believe it one bit. You BMW guys just you wait, I have a friend who has a 01 M3 and I will perform same test on a track. and yes I will tape it, if he wins I will burn my RS6 on the spot. So there, (kidding about burning it of course)

Bajo:addict:

[Erik]

I'll post a new video with both of the runs included.
It's down to 1 - 1 now :D

[johann]

Originally posted by Erik B
I'll post a new video with both of the runs included.
It's down to 1 - 1 now :D

I believe it when I see it. ;)

[kevin034]

Johann, whaasssssahhhh!!! Nice to see a fellow BMWM5 mate on the RS6 forum. That video was impressive! When did Gustav get a RS6? Is that him driving the car?

:alig:

[Plexus]

:addict: We have both an M3 SMG Convertable and an RS6. Last year BMW had to by the first 1 back as it broke down 5 times in as many weeks! We have put then against each other at a "Run what you bring" meting and with the launch control on the BMW it was fair and close, without it forget it the RS6 kicks. When we go out we always come back to the Audi with lots of admirers, however the BMW attracts the wrong attentions.:bigeyes:
We wouldn't buy another BMW, we would if I could get away with it have another Audi on the drive.:cheers:

Stick with the RS6 a much more complete car, 2 thumbs up.:0:

PS. How many people on this or any other "S" car sites do you here whining? very few. Look at "M" car sites and laugh at the woes the have.

[darkseid]

I have been watching the BMWM5.com forum sometimes now.. and I cannot belive all the whining and competition against Audi there is in that forum.

I have even seen people saying dumb stuff like "Audi RS6 is pathetic", it seems like only small kids with no knowledge about any cars are in that forum.

[Plexus]

:addict: Try looking at bmw330ci.com on this site I am sure they are all manic depressives. That's BMW ownership for you. Legal-In my opinion only.:cry:

[krm]

Johann, thanks for the video.


Originally posted by darkseid
I have been watching the BMWM5.com forum sometimes now.. and I cannot belive all the whining and competition against Audi there is in that forum.

I have even seen people saying dumb stuff like "Audi RS6 is pathetic", it seems like only small kids with no knowledge about any cars are in that forum.

darkseid, I probably should not take up board space here to discuss your comment but here it goes since you brought it up. Some things to keep in mind before you past judgement on another group so quickly.

As a moderator for both the RS6.com and bmwm5.com, I think I have a direct experience to say that your statement is only true to an extent.

While members have the right to voice their opinion re: anything about cars on any forums, you cannot judge by some 'immature' comments that the whole atmosphere of the M5 messageboard is as such. In contrary, I found the M5 board, like this one, is full of enthusiasts who know a great deal of information (sometimes even more so than dealers, technicians, etc.) The M5 forums currently has around 5800 members so the 'signal to noise ratio' of course would be lower than that of RS6.com which currently has less than 400. You can visit bimmer.org and see what the difference is like from bmwm5.com

Thanks for your understanding.

:cheers:

[krm]

Originally posted by Plexus

PS. How many people on this or any other "S" car sites do you here whining? very few. Look at "M" car sites and laugh at the woes the have.

I think it largely depends on the age of the enthusiasts on those repective forums and the size of the forums. There are lots of members on audiworld as well and you can see similar things going on there. It's a factor typical to any message forums. Keep in mind RS6.com has only a small growing member base at the moment. My 2 pence.

:cheers:

[Plexus]

Everyone is different and as my dad once told me, "Son, opinions are like a**holes, everyone's got one!!" That's what makes the world go round, amen.:addict:

[krm]

Originally posted by Plexus
Everyone is different and as my dad once told me, "Son, opinions are like a**holes, everyone's got one!!" That's what makes the world go round, amen.:addict:

Good there's an understanding. :cheers:

[zonek]

But to come back on this video, you have to know it could have looked different if it would have been taken from the start.
Why only filming acceleration from 50 to 210 km/h ?

Because the M3 would have lost from the beginning. And it stops at 210... probably the RS6 would overtake the BMW at higher speeds... remember any RS6 unlimited flies until 300 km/h, what no M3 achieves.

So this video does not prove anything except that from 50 to 210 the M3 is slightly faster... :confused:
.. but you have to film the M3 from 50 km/h to make sure it can win a race!:rolleyes: :D

[Plexus]

You can tune the RS6 to 525bhp for very little money, the M3? I don't think so.:addict:

[urquattro83]

In my eyes the M3 starts a second before the RS6 launch from 50.
So I'am not wondering about the result. Look for example to a proffesional race (F1) when 2 cars come out of a corner bumper on bumper the first one looks much faster when he go out of the corner and out-accelerate the second, but in fact: when the second one begin to accelerate; the first already have a speet of (for example) 10 km/u faster than nr.2 !!!!
So the same in this story, but the difference looks not so high as in the F1, because the speed is much lower.

I think we must make a second video, make sure the RS6 is in the right automatic gear, and lauching both cars at the same time. I'm sure the difference other than in this video.

And of course when you starts from 0-200 km/u the RS6 will destruct the M3 surely.

Simon the:addict: is the:king: of the german cars!!!!

[Erik]

Originally posted by urquattro83
And of course when you starts from 0-200 km/u the RS6 will destruct the M3 surely.

http://www.track-challenge.com/main_e.asp?useframe=comparison1d_e.asp?Car1=53%26C ar2=2

0 - 200 Km/h

RS6
18,7 s

M3
18,1 s

And lately the M3 E46 has gotten really good times (high 16) to 200 km/h.

[JP4]

Originally posted by urquattro83
In my eyes the M3 starts a second before the RS6 launch from 50.

And of course when you starts from 0-200 km/u the RS6 will destruct the M3 surely.



I agree. Did you guys see the start of the GT challenge at Sebring that televised here in the states Saturday afternoon? Probst and Galati pulled a hole-shot on the entire pack with their RS6's. They launched very quickly relative to the others. I got a BIG grin on my face for sure! :D

JP4 :addict:

[Benman]

yes, saw the same thing. the way they launched off the line was
incredible. considering how many porsches and M3 there were
against only two RS6s i think the audis did quite well on their
maiden race ( well, make that the ONE audi that finished third)

[Plexus]

With the RS6 in sport and the M3 with a manual box there is no way that the bummer is faster, sorry I mean bimmer. I have one and the sooner the someone buys it the better. A badly built car that attracts the wrong attention. MTM will sure make any M3 owner shut up forever. Please, enough.:addict:

[urquattro83]

I've read that an audi RS6 in England did the 0-200 in 14,3 sec. And it was a original model !!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe we got this one and let him play with the M3 :bye: :bye:

[BBGT2]

Plexus, I agree enuff is enuff already they like their bummers oops bimmers we love our Audi's thats all their is to that.
I can guarantee you one thing an M3 will not pass me like that,
It couldn't pass me like that with my S8(60mph start to about 120mph, chicago trafic you know) which says alot for the S8, an I know the RS6 can run circles around my S8. I guess time will tell.
It just doesnt make sense to me that a M3 can be so "powerful".
if you get 1 second head start you are gonne which is what the M3 did, it would take a GT2 to make that second up that was lost.
And lets not forget that you have to be an exemplary driver not to loose too much time when you are upshifting your m3, you can try but you will never shift as fast as the new auto from audi.
Just my .02 cents (again)

bajo :addict:

[Mr Janne]

What is the problem here? Erik B and a couple of other car enthusiasts(!) got some nice cars and did lots of comparsions between the cars. The BMW M3 and the Audi RS6 proved to be equally fast and that is documented on several videos, so what´s so hard to understand about that? Both are great cars and also very different.

[zonek]

Mr Janne: I just thought the way it was presented on the original site was not very fair, that's all.
For the rest I agree with you, and we cannot do a judgment just based on a video.

[Erik]

I have another video with more footage but since everyone's complaining about Real Player I didn't put it online yet.
I can only edit the format at a friend and he's on vacation now for a week or so.

And as I said, Gustav who drove the RS6 (bmwm5.com admin he is as well...) wasn't even sure he had the tip in S-mode.

Nevertheless the RS6 and the M3 are great cars.

[MichaelJP]

This video really surprises me, so I'll add my thoughts, particularly as I have just traded in my '02 E46 M3 SMG for an RS6 Avant.

EVO magazine in the UK gives the following figures:-

RS6 0-60mph 4.8 sec 0-100mph 11.6 sec
M3 0-60mph 5.1 sec 0-100mph 12.3 sec

Now these figures are quite close, but the RS6 comes out on top.

I'd also make the following points:-

- In normal use, the RS6 feels *so* much faster to me than the M3. Because you don't have to rev the engine to get massive acceleration you get the feeling that the RS6 is alive and ready to go at all times. I also like being able to go fast without everybody looking round, staring and thinking "what a d***head!".

- So the M3s torque is high up the rev range, this means you must use all the rev range to use it properly. That means lots of noise and straight-6 rasping. Subjectively I think that makes the car feel slower than it really is, because it seems to be working so hard.

- The figures are close, but you could get those RS6 numbers all day with ease - no doubt to get them the M3 used its electronic launch control, which is extremely quick, but you wouldn't want to use it too often as you'd lunch the clutch in pretty short order.

- As far as the video goes, hmmm...

- MichaelJP

[Erik]

Posted the video here:

http://www.rs6.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=971