Budweiser

[gjg]

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Poor Portugese

Imagine you live in Portugal.
You drink something there called Budweiser.
It is a really good Czech beer.

Then, you travel to America.

Unwittingly, you start to consume the chilled horse urine that Americans call Bud.

You would be mentally scarred for life, not to mention wretching your guts out.

Americans know very little about alot. Like beer.

EU Court Rules on Anheuser-Busch Case - Yahoo! News

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051011/ap_on_bi_ge/eu_anheuser_busch_portugal

:cheers:

[gjg]

I would not necessarilly agree with:

1. Americans know very little about alot - not true unless you live in Arkansas, Luisiana, WV and TN .... and of course Washington, D.C.

2. wisdom of EU commission - this is oxymoron.

:applause:

however, the only thing Budweiser sold in US has common with beer is the name - the "horse piss" description is more than accurate .....

:thumb:

[Benman]

Well that's weird... according to that article, Anheuser-Busch has been making "Budweiser" since 1876, and Budejovicky Budvar was founded in 1895. So if correct, Busch actually came up with the name first?!? I thought it was the other way around?:vhmmm: :confused:

Ben:addict:

[gjg]

that brewery in Budweiss was there since 13xx or so.

[Benman]

Originally posted by gjg
that brewery in Budweiss was there since 13xx or so.
Yes, article says:"Beer has been brewed there since 1265."

But they did not use the name "Budweiser" until 1895. At least according to the article?:confused: So according to them, they brewed beer first, but stole the name "Budweiser" from Anheuser-Busch.

Not sure if that is correct though? Maybe the article is wrong?:vhmmm:

Ben:addict: But yes, Anheuser-Busch's version IS Horse Pee Pee.

[Erik]

I have visited Bud USA, the largest brewery in the world. They said largest, not the BEST :D

Miller for me :thumb:

[gjg]

Damn, Erik ... I thought you would have some taste ... Millllller ..... what a disappointment ....

:harass:

[gjg]

bullshit


But they did not use the name "Budweiser" until 1895. At least according to the article? So according to them, they brewed beer first, but stole the name "Budweiser" from Anheuser-Busch.

This was named under Habsburg empire - I guess better statement in today's lingo would be "marketed under this name" as of .. the name was there before - if not Anhauser-Bush took them to cleaners already ...

And, lets not foget, the Trade Mark "Budweisser" was registered to Czech company all over except North and South America ....

Hey, here is a deal - next time you're over I'll arrange personalized tour in Czech and we can do it the other way around in US - than we can compare .... I will bring my own beer though to A-B ...

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:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

[Benman]

Originally posted by gjg
bullshit

Hey, here is a deal - next time you're over I'll arrange personalized tour in Czech and we can do it the other way around in US - than we can compare .... I will bring my own beer though to A-B ...

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:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
You don't have to convince me, already had "Budweiser" in Czech (and bought a bottle of REAL Budweiser to take back home with me:thumb: ).

My point is that according to the article, it sure makes it sound as if the original Czech Bud company was NOT using the name until AFTER the American Boys were supposedly using it. It says that the Czech company was clearly first, but for some reason or another waited OVER SIX HUNDRED YEARS for the Americans to "invent" the name Budweiser, and THEN copy it from them.:rolleyes: I don't neccessarily believe it, but that is what the story tellers are saying anyway.

Ben:addict:

[gjg]

it that was true, lawyers already had a field day ...

and I know you committed considerable amount of your travel time to "field" research of brewing bussiness during your visit in Czech ... oooops, did I say something supppose to be a big secret?

[Benman]

Originally posted by gjg
it that was true, lawyers already had a field day ...

and I know you committed considerable amount of your travel time to "field" research of brewing bussiness during your visit in Czech ... oooops, did I say something supppose to be a big secret?

Oh no, no secret at all. Wife knows the real reason I go to Europe is :incar: (Autobahn and Nurburgring) and :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :D

Ben:addict:

[Code_2025]

Originally posted by Erik
I have visited Bud USA, the largest brewery in the world. They said largest, not the BEST :D

Miller for me :thumb:

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[sturs6]

Do you know how you make Budweiser?

Oh and does anyone know if BUDWEISER actually stands for Because U Deserve What Every Individual Should Enjoy Regularly.


Oh to answer the first question...


You send him to school!!!


LOL
:cheers:
Stuart

[Benman]

Originally posted by sturs6

You send him to school!!!


LOL
:cheers:
Stuart
:hihi:

Ben:addict:

[gjg]

Originally posted by sturs6
Oh and does anyone know if BUDWEISER actually stands for Because U Deserve What Every Individual Should Enjoy Regularly.

that I can translate only to "take a leak ...." on regular basis because that is as close as the A-B product gets .... :applause:

[Benman]

Originally posted by gjg
that I can translate only to "take a leak ...." on regular basis because that is as close as the A-B product gets .... :applause:
:D

Yes, yes, but don't forget, NOW, Budweiser has their new "Select" Budweiser.:rolleyes:

"Yes, because we realize for the last 150 years, we've been giving you $%^&, so now we'll make a NEW (read more expensive) line of beer that's actually half decent, and call it even. Oh, the regular stuff? Oh, we'll keep making that.":rolleyes:

Ben:addict:

[gjg]

so it goes through at double speed?

[Benman]

Originally posted by gjg
so it goes through at double speed?
:D

No, now the slogan for "Select" is "We slow things down. Bud Select, expect everything".:rolleyes:

Interesting, they also say made from the "best" American AND Bavarian hops. I'm thinking 1% American hops and 99% Bavarian hops, that would be the ONLY thing to give it a fighting chance for it to be half good.

I have NEVER in my entire life spent my OWN $$$ on a Bud product, but maybe, just this once, I'll do it for the sake of the members here for "research" on this new product.:D

Ben:addict:

[gjg]

awaiting results ... :D

[Benman]

Originally posted by gjg
awaiting results ... :D
I can't believe you're going to make me spend my $$ on that ....:D

I'll keep you posted.

Ben :addict:

[Benman]

I sent my wife to purchased some "Select" from the grocery store. OK, so after spending (or wasting, depending on how you look at it) some $$$, the results:

It compares on a close to equal basis to the lowest quality of German beers (had a LOT during my trips there:D ). I would certainly NOT continue their slogan of, "Expect everything". After the first sip, I was thinking, more like, "Don't get your hopes up!":rolleyes: Sad.

If anyone has tried "Amber Bock" by Michelob, then don't waste your time on Select. Amber Bock beats it hands down.

And George, even the new Select is not on par with Pilsner's Budweiser.

The first and LAST time I will ever spend my $$$ on Bud. I did it for you guys so you won't have to.:thumb:

Ben:addict:

[gjg]

results as expected .... we can maybe establish "Ben's tasting fund" to compensate for the sacrifice of tasting various horse piss samples ....

:D

[Benman]

Originally posted by gjg
results as expected .... we can maybe establish "Ben's tasting fund" to compensate for the sacrifice of tasting various horse piss samples ....

:D
Yeah, for the needed organ transplants from putting that in my body!:D

Ben:addict:

[gjg]

well, you may drink it filtered after one use - I'd bet there would be no difference in the taste, and - if you cool it .......:harass:

you have another bottle

recycling at its best :applause: :applause: :applause:

[Benman]

Originally posted by gjg
I'd bet there would be no difference in the taste, and - if you cool it .......:harass:

Actually, there is a slight difference (don't ask, long story :D), but it is real close!:bigeyes: Scarey thought for all those Bud drinkers!:bye2:

Ben:addict:

[gjg]

hey, this sounds like personal experience ... bring it out .... :wo:

[Benman]

Originally posted by gjg
hey, this sounds like personal experience ... bring it out .... :wo:
Nah, better to keep it in....

Maybe one day the world will be ready. :D

Let's just say this: if there was a group of us straded in the desert with nothing to drink or eat, I'd be the last man standing.:thumb:

Ben:addict:

[gjg]

yeah, I get the picture ..... :D

[gjg]

Ben,

I have located the original method how the stuff you tested is made ....

:applause:

[Benman]

Nice...:rolleyes: Now I feel better.:D

Ben:addict: :cheers:

[Payne]

I think it doesn't matter who came out first with the brand, the point is that we have best beer than anyone in the world.:bye2:

:cheers:

[Benman]

Originally posted by Payne
I think it doesn't matter who came out first with the brand, the point is that we have best beer than anyone in the world.:bye2:

:cheers:
Nah, George already tried to convince me of that. The beer I had in Prague with him was certainly first class!:cheers: But the beer I had with Nordschleife in Munich was out of this WORLD!:bigeyes:

Germany still makes the best, sorry.

Ben:addict:

[Payne]

hmm I'll think about going to Germany and give it a chance:cheers:

[Payne]

Originally posted by Benman


Germany still makes the best, sorry.

Ben:addict:


How about Belgium beer. They have like 250 kinds.
I've drunk couple types and those where good(ofcourse not as good as the czech ones:P).Except for the dessert one's which where sweet and cherry and strawberry flavoured-that sucked

[Benman]

When I'm there in 07', I'll give it a try.:cheers:

Ben:addict:

[SoCal]

One of the nice things about beer is that it comes in so many tastes, each expressing a different national culture. Pilsner (not Budweiser) in Czech, fine Trappist Ale in Belgium, a fabulous Hefe Weizen in Germany, or a rich stout or nutty "real" ale in Britain...all are great. I'd hate to live in a world that only had one type of beer, even if it was The Best.

As for the big US brands...puke: But don't knock American hops. Some of the best micro-brews around are made with special hops from Northern California. And some of the world's worst beers are mass produced on other continents. Quality, not quantity. Usually, just find the freshest, most distinctive beer made the closest to where you're drinking it, and you can't go too far wrong.

If you really care about the old US/Czech Budweiser dispute, check out http://www.american.edu/TED/budweis.htm. There was even a 1939 international agreement to address the point, so it goes back a ways. When I lived in Europe years ago, we got into a lot of long talks about the relative merits of local brews and the evil ways of the watery global brands. Really just an excuse to sit around all night with friends and :cheers:. Nice memories.

[gjg]

Germany still makes the best, sorry.

bullshit - Germans buy approx. 70% of Pilsner Urquell production ... why is that?

Of course if I had the same time frame available as R+C in Munich, we had personall tour in the brewery .... and you'd be still signing as canary ....

:cheers:

[gjg]

and Payne is right, we have the best .....



I'd hate to live in a world that only had one type of beer, even if it was The Best.


of course there is several (that is close to a 100) smaller breweries in Czech so there is definitely wide variety (after the best and of ourse after the real Budweiser) ....

[Benman]

Originally posted by gjg
bullshit - Germans buy approx. 70% of Pilsner Urquell production ... why is that?

So... Americans buy 90% American made Budweiser, and I'd hardly say it's good!:D

Numbers are just numbers. Yours is good, but I still think German stuff is better. Just my HO.

Ben:addict:

Tell you what, next trip to Cheska Republika, I'll let you prove me wrong.:cheers:

[Payne]

Originally posted by Benman

Tell you what, next trip to Cheska Republika, I'll let you prove me wrong.:cheers:

Let me know when you do. I'll happily help you:harass:

[Benman]

Originally posted by Payne
Let me know when you do. I'll happily help you:harass:
Always up for some good :cheers:

Ben:addict:

[gjg]

plan for 3 days, first day the brewery tour, 2 days to recuperate ...:D

[Benman]

Originally posted by gjg
plan for 3 days, first day the brewery tour, 2 days to recuperate ...:D
Planning a BIG Euro tour for 2007. Only have 2 days slotted for Praha, so I only will have one day for recovery.;)

Ben:addict:

[gjg]

ok, that is no problem - perhaps some exploration of country side with closing in one of the village restaurants with Pilsner on tap would do?

Of course short flight on gg Airline to accomodate the transportation ... :thumb:

[Benman]

Originally posted by gjg

Of course short flight on gg Airline to accomodate the transportation ... :thumb:
Would that be before or after we had beer?

Don't think you want the Mrs. to....puke: .... all over that sweet interior!:D

Ben:addict:

[gjg]

before, before ...... of course with added utility of an Avant we can fold the back seat and dispose of her properly ....:thumb: