Differences between the RS6 and RS6+

[vspec2]

Hey guys,
I'm new on this board and I was just wondering what the differences are between the RS6 and the RS6+. Thanks in advance.

BTW my dad owns a RS6 and I'm thinking of maybe trying to get him to do a stage 3 mtm upgrade and have heard that the RS6 tranny might have problems coping with the extra torque. So I'm just doing some research.

Thanks again:addict:

[vs2]

Hey look we have the same user name, mines just abbreviated.

[7:53 RS6]

Originally posted by vspec2
Hey guys,
I'm new on this board and I was just wondering what the differences are between the RS6 and the RS6+. Thanks in advance.

BTW my dad owns a RS6 and I'm thinking of maybe trying to get him to do a stage 3 mtm upgrade and have heard that the RS6 tranny might have problems coping with the extra torque. So I'm just doing some research.

Thanks again:addict:

Nothing relly, just a good marketing trick from audi :D
Now that i dont have my RS6 any longer, i would rather buy the + if i buy the car again, and i probably will.

It comes stock 1cm lower and whit sportsauspuff in black and drilled rotors. It got 30hp extra and the same NM as RS6 but it holds the NM about 500rpm longer( i think it was).

One importent thing that the + have and RS6 dont have, is the extra cooling. You can spank the + moore and longer before it go to hot and get to safty program. Its as i understand a sensor in the engine that feels wheen the oil is geting to hot and then put it in limpmode as called. This takes longer in the + therfor its superior du to the extra coling. Hope i dident get this wrong for you.

The normal RS6 is opition to have it lower and black pipes and drilled rotors. (usa is other ball game)

Colors and limited 999 sign is other things that differ ofcourse.

The other guys can surley give some more info if i left some out.
gjg dives on so he should know:thumb:

[vspec2]

Thanks your help. But could you tell me what parts are different on the RS6+ that gives it the better cooling. ie is it an oil cooler of some kind and if so are we (from the states) able to get these parts without much difficulty from Audi Germany?? Thanks in advance.

[Erik]

Hi and welcome.

I've searched the press site but for some reason most of the Rs6 info seems to be gone. Silly, since the old RS4 info is still there. :eye:

Also tried searching this site as I am sure the info should have been posted. No luck :vhmmm:

If I remeber correct there is an extra intercooler in the front.

Anyway, here's from the press release I found:

"quattro GmbH is now launching an ultimate sports version of the RS 6 developing 353 kW (480 bhp). The RS 6 plus is equipped with features echoing the world of motor sport and comes with new colour concepts.

With an output of 480 bhp, the RS 6 plus generates 30 bhp more than the standard Audi RS 6 version. The peak torque of 560 Nm is achieved across a range that now extends from 1950 rpm all the way up to 6000 rpm – in other words, the engine speed range across which this enormous traction is now available has been increased by a further 400 rpm.

The secret to this optimised performance is a new engine control unit. In order to maintain stable thermal conditions in the light of its uprated performance, the technical specialists from quattro GmbH have positioned two additional radiators behind the intercoolers.

The road performance is unequalled by any other model in the field of competitors: a mere 4.6 seconds elapse for the standard discipline of sprinting from 0 to 100 km/h. The Audi RS 6 plus hits 200 km/h in just 17.3 seconds.

Technology for the sports driver

The DRC suspension has already created a sensation on the Audi RS 6. DRC (Dynamic Ride Control) involves diagonally linked dampers with a central valve that reduces the rolling and pitching movements of the vehicle body by means of the damper characteristic, without the use of electronics.

Further specific features now underscore the professionalism and sports character of the Audi RS 6 plus.

The Audi RS 6 plus has perforated brake discs; these are visible between the five arms of the larger 19-inch cast aluminium wheels.

Buyers of the RS 6 plus can in addition order sports suspension plus, at no extra charge. With variable damping, firmer spring/damper settings and a body 10 mm lower than the RS 6, its road behaviour and responsiveness are even more active and sporty.

A counterpressure-optimised sports exhaust system with matt black, oval tailpipes acts as a forceful mouthpiece for the lusty sound of the eight-cylinder engine.

The trim strips and roof rails, likewise in matt black, outwardly visually underline its enhanced sportiness.

Inside this car, aluminium pedals signal the special sports emphasis of the Audi RS 6 plus.

More equipment, more individuality

The new equipment concept is a major plus point. The Audi RS 6 plus has black natural leather seats and carbon fibre trim strips as standard. Customers can choose between all standard exterior colours of the RS 6 – or between the Blue, Silver and Black/Cognac packages that are available at no extra charge.

The Blue equipment package comprises the special colour Sprint Blue, pearl effect, for the body; the seats are in black leather with silver-coloured Alcantara centre sections. The blue threads in the carbon fibre inserts echo the body colour.

The Audi RS 6 plus with Silver package has the special body colour Silver, metallic, and the black leather seats contrast subtly with the Alcantara centre sections, which are also black. The matt brushed aluminium trim inserts provide a note of contrast here.

The Black/Cognac equipment package looks particularly stylish. The exclusive body colour of Ebony Black, pearl effect, harmonises perfectly with the trim strips in black piano finish. Cognac-coloured leather seats with black piping accentuate the interior.

Even the vehicle identification number emphasises the fact that the Audi RS 6 plus is something utterly special. Its last three digits are reproduced on a plaque inside the car, displayed on the centre console. No more than 999 of this version will be built.

The Audi RS 6 plus can be ordered now, exclusively with Avant body, for delivery from the end of April. The recommended retail price inclusive of VAT is 101,050 euros.

[vspec2]

Thanks Erik. Do you think that I would be able to get the extra cooling parts from germany without much of a problem and have an audi dealer here in the states do the install?




Originally posted by Erik
Hi and welcome.

[Erik]

One suggestion is to contact MTM:

http://www.mtm-online.de/en/team.html

or DBR http://www.audituning.com/ http://www.audituning-usa.com/

:addict: +

[Benman]

Originally posted by Erik
One suggestion is to contact MTM:

http://www.mtm-online.de/en/team.html

or DBR http://www.audituning.com/ http://www.audituning-usa.com/

:addict: +
I'd go with this option. I think you'll have a tuff time getting the local Audi boys to do the install, and an even tougher time with them KEEPING the warranty. Sounds silly since it IS a FACTORY part, but remember, it is NOT a factory US Audi part. So they might give you slack for the upgrade. Depends on the dealer. So far, the experience has been that Audi NA seems to be looking for reasons to void warranty, some have even mention changing BRAKE fluids would do so! Be careful with enhancements.:cheers:

Ben:addict:

[vspec2]

Thanks a lot for your help guys.:bow: :addict:

[gjg]

we have two Avants on hand (rs6 and +), rs6 is with black opto package including the exhaust and sports rotors.

Road performance is about the same (outside of the suspension which makes + little better handling under "pressure" but harsher on s**t roads here), my butt-o-meter feel is that in higher rpms/speeds above 130 mph the plus pulls better - I can pull away between 230-280 kph from the other one, same conditions.

I'd say the exhaust note sounds little different (deeper) to me on + but that may be just my old ears.

I have yet to get the oil overheat shutdown (limpmode) to come on - than again this summer here was far from hot

Badge, 19" stock wheels, pedals and new MMI DVD based Nav system is about it. And price, let's not forget that ... and, if you are in US - the REAL Recaro seats :D

[vspec2]

Originally posted by gjg
we have two Avants on hand (rs6 and +), rs6 is with black opto package including the exhaust and sports rotors.

Road performance is about the same (outside of the suspension which makes + little better handling under "pressure" but harsher on s**t roads here), my butt-o-meter feel is that in higher rpms/speeds above 130 mph the plus pulls better - I can pull away between 230-280 kph from the other one, same conditions.

I'd say the exhaust note sounds little different (deeper) to me on + but that may be just my old ears.

I have yet to get the oil overheat shutdown (limpmode) to come on - than again this summer here was far from hot

Badge, 19" stock wheels, pedals and new MMI DVD based Nav system is about it. And price, let's not forget that ... and, if you are in US - the REAL Recaro seats :D

So in your opinion do you think that the uprated cooling is doing its job? Also would you recommend trying to get a hold of the extra parts to help cooling if I were to get the mtm stage 3 kit?
Thanks for all the responses its really helped me:) :D

[Benman]

Originally posted by gjg
And price, let's not forget that ... and, if you are in US - the REAL Recaro seats :D
George can NEVER pass up an opportunity to rub our noses in that fact!

But I guess as the consulation price, we get the seat memory with remote function that you don't!:bye2: Comes in handy when getting into the car after the missus!(4'10").:thumb:

Ben:addict:

[gjg]

I knew this was coming ..... this time you forgot the mirror downtilt ..... :vgrumpy: :vgrumpy:
:brag:

[gjg]

Originally posted by vspec2

So in your opinion do you think that the uprated cooling is doing its job?

I did not track the car - on "normal" autobahn use the RS6 did not go th limpmode yet, neither did +. This is 200 km and more with speeds at/or above 200 (Sunday morning drives :D )

IMHO unless you live in Southern US (or orther part of globe with same climate) and/or track the car and drive with lead foot you will not need it - upgrade or not.

The extra radiators would not play major role in the upgrade cost and - since you're going in anyway - would be easy to add.

gg