AutoWeek article on new RS4

[JAXRS6]

From the March 7 issue; arrived today

http://autoweek.com/article.cms?articleId=101889

[nyrs6]

They said only 20 lb lighter then the S4? Isn't the S4 3800 lb? :vhmmm:

They also said that people that drove the RS4 said its not as fast as the old one. :vhmmm:

[Benman]

Originally posted by nyrs6
They said only 20 lb lighter then the S4? Isn't the S4 3800 lb? :vhmmm:

They also said that people that drove the RS4 said its not as fast as the old one. :vhmmm:
Read the same article. Don't know who they asked (since they haven't driven it) but it makes sense that at low or starting speeds it might not FEEL as fast since it doesn't have the INSTANT twin turbo torque like the old one (see TTs are a GOOD thing:D ). I doubt however that the new RS 4 is actually slower though than the old.

Not sure what the S4's actual weight is? 20 LBS doesn't seem like much. But it is an American Magazine afterall!:D

Ben:addict:

[Benman]

Just read the article on EVO website. They post the savings as 50kg (110lbs) and a weight of 1651. So who's right?:confused:

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/?evo/news%2Fevo_news_story.php%3Fid%3D54603

Ben:addict: :rs4addict

[JAXRS6]

When I was working in PR first and journalism later, it became evident to me that when dealing with product specs, more often than not it was the mfr who was the source of conflicting data. Journalists generally write what they are told when it comes to product info. They may have strange opinions at times, but they don't make up product information.

[7:53 RS6]

Originally posted by nyrs6


They also said that people that drove the RS4 said its not as fast as the old one. :vhmmm:

Itsent it common that a turbo car feels faster than a NA car, even if the NA is faster.

Pesonaly I have hard to belive that the old is faster then the new RS4

[Benman]

Originally posted by JAXRS6
They may have strange opinions at times, but they don't make up product information.
True, but that's why I posted the link for what EVO's jounalists wrote. One would think they were entitled to the exact same product info but obviously someone (from EVO or Autoweek) lost something in the translation. Maybe the Brits have a better understanding of German.:rolleyes:

Ben:addict:

[JAXRS6]

Maybe we'll never agree on this, but my point was that when it comes to product info, it's not the publications or journalists who usually screw up; it's usually the mfr, whose product info can change -- especially on a car that has not even reached the market yet.

I experienced this personally when doing PR for a major mfr of snowmobiles. They gave me specs to pass on to publications, I did so, and then I was notified of changes from the mfr. I would report the changes to the publications, but sometimes they were past deadline & it was too late -- resulting in published data that was wrong but not the publication's fault.

[Benman]

Originally posted by JAXRS6
Maybe we'll never agree on this,


Actually I think we do agree on this. It is obvious that Audi can and must have more than just ONE person that informs EVERY single magazine in the world. More than likely it's a simple case of one person from Audi telling one mag one thing and ANOTHER representative from Audi telling a different magazine another thing. Unless of course it really was just "lost" in the translation".;)
:cheers:

Ben:addict: (personally I'm hoping what EVO wrote was the correct info:0: ).

[nyrs6]

Originally posted by Benman
Just read the article on EVO website. They post the savings as 50kg (110lbs) and a weight of 1651. So who's right?:confused:

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/?evo/news%2Fevo_news_story.php%3Fid%3D54603

Ben:addict: :rs4addict

They said 1651 kg but they claim that the s4 is just 20 lb heavier. I thought the S4 was 3800 lb? :confused:

[Benman]

Originally posted by nyrs6
They said 1651 kg but they claim that the s4 is just 20 lb heavier. I thought the S4 was 3800 lb? :confused:
I think you mean the Autoweek article says 20lbs. The EVO article says it's 50kg lighter (110lbs). :0:

Ben:addict:

[nyrs6]

Yes, but Autoweek also said that the new RS4 will weigh 3600 lb, that should be 200 lb lighter then the S4?

[Benman]

Originally posted by nyrs6
Yes, but Autoweek also said that the new RS4 will weigh 3600 lb, that should be 200 lb lighter then the S4?
"Tipping the scales at 3630 pounds, the new car is 22 pounds lighter than the S4, but 341 pounds heavier than the weight BMW quotes for the M3."

So they must think the S4 weights 3652lbs. That's probably fairly accurate for a base model (manual) with no options. Think about it. Tiptronic alone would add almost 100lbs to that figure, add in rear shades, Navi, etc... and there's your @3800lbs. Hope that makes sense.

Ben:addict:

[kujo]

The US spec S4 weighs in at:

Manual is 3825lbs (1,735kg)
Tiptronic is 3925lbs (1780kg)

That 20lbs should have read 200lbs.

Kurt

[tailpipe]

Yes, 200 lbs or about 100 kgs has to be right.

Can you imagine BMW launching the M3 CSL and saying its 20 lbs lighter than the M3? As if that would make a substantial difference to performance - it would be laughable. The same goes for Audi.

All things considered, a fully loaded S4 versus the new RS4 is probably a good 150 kgs heavier.

[5000S old skool]

perhaps its the US spec RS4 that will be lighter by only 20lbs because of the non-racing seats.

[Benman]

Originally posted by kujo
The US spec S4 weighs in at:

Manual is 3825lbs (1,735kg)
Tiptronic is 3925lbs (1780kg)

That 20lbs should have read 200lbs.

Kurt
That would clear things up!:D

Ben:addict: (how can I swing both?:deal: )