Official Horsepower Thread! [Archive] - RS6.com

LaserSVT

October 4th, 2015, 22:20

Ya'll may be too dang civilized but every special car site I am on has an official HP thread and i cant locate one here. If I missed it, I appologize. If there isnt one, well shame on you! LOL

So lets see what your beautiful beasts are making. List modifications and if you have a dyno graph that would be great. If you have a progression of mods and power that would also be great.

I am still awaiting mine back from the dealer but after I do the timing belt and some data logging I will find an AWD dyno and post mine. :)

Bonus points for an included video.

makaveli42

October 4th, 2015, 22:45

People will say dynos differ from dyno to dyno and how the numbers can be messed up.But 438.49awhp on a dyno jet for me. Have a pic on my iPhone but this is the only forum i can't figure out how to post pics from an iPhone on.

LaserSVT

October 4th, 2015, 22:47

Yeah i cant seem to hot link pics here as well. I always have to host them in my PB account and PB has just gotten so slow.

You forgot modifications though. But thanks!

makaveli42

October 4th, 2015, 23:30

Yeah i cant seem to hot link pics here as well. I always have to host them in my PB account and PB has just gotten so slow.

You forgot modifications though. But thanks!

that was with straight piped exhaust, apikol intake, and mail order viper tune. That's it

now I have custom Daz Dillinger tune we tuned for a few days and about 25 logs and the meth kit installed and tuned in. No new numbers tho

Bigglezworth

October 5th, 2015, 05:23

LaserSVT

October 5th, 2015, 13:45

Opinions and assholes. We all have them and they are all full of poo. Please dont be "that guy". If you are unhappy with your dyno numbers dont post them. No need to be a killjoy.
1/4 IMHO isnt always the best way to measure power anyway. Temperature, trac conditions, car weight, wind temp, drivers balls etc etc all have a alot to do with that. I have seen 380 HP cars run high 11's and 500 HP cars do the same and even 600hp cars.

We are all experienced enough to know that:
1. A Mustang dyno will always read lower.
2. Dyno numbers can be manipulated
3. Its still a damn fine way to measure the cars potential.

So lighten up Francis.

This is a nice simple thread for dyno numbers with mods.

SteveKen

October 5th, 2015, 16:07

Fruitless post. Different dyno's provide different results and unless everyone is using the same baseline - the values simply don't matter IMO. Now, the one thing that never lies for anyone is physics and pushing a brick like ours down the 1/4 in a certain time is readily the only measure of true power values. The laws of physics simply don't lie. Weigh your car, post your time, and the rest is math....

1/4 mile times also lie. Just as different dynos provide different results, so do different drivers. Put five drivers in the same car, put one driver in five different cars, put five drivers in five different cars. . . It's an interesting experiment I bet.

Dynos are good for deltas is something that I've always said. Not for stated HP/TQ numbers.

GreggPDX

October 5th, 2015, 17:26

I'm with Laser on this one, most car forums have a "Dyno" and "1/4 mile" thread and I'd like to see both! Our cars are getting to an age and price-point where "hot rodders" are becoming more common, so there should be plenty of examples of built cars out there, and people like me who want to see them! Most of us know about all the variables and issues with various dyno's, but it's still fun to see them and bench race. Bring on the dyno charts and time slips! :race:

Bigglezworth

October 5th, 2015, 18:20

Dynos are good for deltas is something that I've always said. Not for stated HP/TQ numbers.Bingo. Well put.

LaserSVT

October 5th, 2015, 18:48

Darn, guess I better speak to my people at Texas Speed and Black Mamba and Hennnessey and Late Model and Gearheads and TSS and UGR and Alpha and let them know they are doing it wrong. And to think of all the money they wasted to get dyno numbers for those half million dollar cars. Damn shame.

So what is the best way to get HP numbers? I mean we all know that we cant go off what the manufactures state. Pretty sure the Japanese crowd has it wrong too. CAI +30hp, Fart can exhaust +30hp, Type-R badge +15HP, AEM windshield sticker +50hp.............

I guess I am just used to being able to know a cars HP by putting it on a dyno and simply by looking at the HP graph I know if and where an issue is. Cant tell you how many hours I have spent on the dyno tuning Ford Modular motors or tuning LS motors. A simple dyno run will tell me right away if I have a bad coil or a weak injector but I am used to them. Take one healthy Cobra with XXX mods and then throw another one on there with identical mods and they are usually within 2-3hp of each other. To me dyno numbers are important. It lets you know if you are performing the correct mods or not. I have learned what intakes to use, injectors, boost levels and a plenty of other items during tuning and building.
Yes a big part is getting that A/F ratio dialed in but HP is what everyones after.

From experience I know a Mustang Dyno runs 8-10% below a DynoJet system. We can take that into account.

Please, just let the people who want to participate, participate.

P1054

October 5th, 2015, 20:09

Well, I think this could be interesting even if the dyno numbers aren't a perfect apples-to-apples comparison. We all know that, account for it in reading posts, and still can have fun seeing what others get. Even better if someone else is getting their numbers from the same dyno, as I'm pretty sure multiple members have used AMD's dyno. My info is in my signature, 460/530 at the wheels on AMD's Mustang dyno, running their Stage 1 6MT tune. That of course is with an 01E 6 speed.

Turbowned

October 5th, 2015, 22:08

^^ Those are some nice numbers!

I would love to see what a 6MT car can make with hybrid turbos, more fuel and water/meth, and also what a car can do with some GTX3071R's or equivalent on custom manifolds and external wastegates. I have yet to see anyone really push the envelope with one of these cars, and it's understandable considering the diminishing returns on what it actually costs to get there vs. if you were to get a 2.7T and go with any of the myriad aftermarket offerings, but it would be great to get some inspiration for if/when guys like me ever get enough cash to really start building their car. I mean we have a rough idea of what the 4.2 is capable of considering its use in the Gumpert Apollo but I'd like to see an RS6 that can really hang with the modern hardware like tuned RS7's, GT-R's, ZR1 Corvettes, etc.

What I'm saying is, c'man, someone throw up a hundred G's and build a 1,000hp RS6 :hahahehe:

Fastguy

October 11th, 2015, 02:00

that was with straight piped exhaust, apikol intake, and mail order viper tune. That's it

now I have custom Daz Dillinger tune we tuned for a few days and about 25 logs and the meth kit installed and tuned in. No new numbers tho

Are you still auto? How does it "feel" compare to where you were at before?

oh, and if anyone can get that 1000 hp points, it's going to be Daz and his car. I've have complete faith in this man and his abilities. They are nothing short of genius.

Bigglezworth

October 11th, 2015, 19:48

I would love to see what a 6MT car can make with hybrid turbos, more fuel and water/meth, and also what a car can do with some GTX3071R's or equivalent on custom manifolds and external wastegates. I have yet to see anyone really push the envelope with one of these carsThis is about as far as I recall anyone doing a more custom build that requires one off fabrication efforts.

http://www.rs6.com/showthread.php/26650-Milka-Build-thread?highlight=tial

LaserSVT

October 11th, 2015, 20:13

This is about as far as I recall anyone doing a more custom build that requires one off fabrication efforts.

http://www.rs6.com/showthread.php/26650-Milka-Build-thread?highlight=tial

Thank you for that! Excellent read. I now have new HP goals and they are much lower. LOL That looked fantastic but I am not doing all that. Bolt on rabbit turbos, intercoolers and meth and call it a day.... or weekend.

makaveli42

October 11th, 2015, 21:16

Are you still auto? How does it "feel" compare to where you were at before?

oh, and if anyone can get that 1000 hp points, it's going to be Daz and his car. I've have complete faith in this man and his abilities. They are nothing short of genius.

It feels a lot smoother for sure, and I can launch now. Yes, still an auto... Still want to try Marc's tune lol

Avus-RS6

October 21st, 2015, 07:32

I have RS6 hybrids and meth, plus custom AMD dp's, IC's, and o1e trans, making 515/635 on AMD's MD500. It's plenty.

^^ Those are some nice numbers!

I would love to see what a 6MT car can make with hybrid turbos, more fuel and water/meth, and also what a car can do with some GTX3071R's or equivalent on custom manifolds and external wastegates. I have yet to see anyone really push the envelope with one of these cars, and it's understandable considering the diminishing returns on what it actually costs to get there vs. if you were to get a 2.7T and go with any of the myriad aftermarket offerings, but it would be great to get some inspiration for if/when guys like me ever get enough cash to really start building their car. I mean we have a rough idea of what the 4.2 is capable of considering its use in the Gumpert Apollo but I'd like to see an RS6 that can really hang with the modern hardware like tuned RS7's, GT-R's, ZR1 Corvettes, etc.

What I'm saying is, c'man, someone throw up a hundred G's and build a 1,000hp RS6 :hahahehe:

LaserSVT

October 21st, 2015, 08:09

Wow, 55hp and about 100tq gain to the ground with just the hybrids? Thats pretty healthy. Pardon my lack of knowledge but are the hybrids like what SRM has? $2200 for turbos, hardware and larger inlet pipes seems like a good deal. Its the pulling of the motor that sucks. LOL

hahnmgh63

October 21st, 2015, 16:19

I'll run mine on AMD's dyno when I'm done as a comparison to Avus RS6's. I've got Milltek Catless downpipes, Wagners, will be MT6 as well as AMD's Meth, only difference will be the Turbos. I had mine rebuilt by Scroll with the newer K04 improvements but not Hybrid, stock new parts. I can say that when my pressure check line was disconnected (my error during the install), it would boost to 22~23psi in no time at all. Pulled like a freight train for a couple of seconds before the ECU shut things down and went into limp mode.

Avus-RS6

October 21st, 2015, 18:17

I think hybrids help a little up top, as well as the 100% methanol (not 50/50) and the fact that I wanted "all the power". Only fueling mod besides addition of Methanol is 5 bar fpr. The turbos were built by Blouch, new CHRA's with Billet 2283 compressor, clipped turbine wheels, K03/04 wastegates.

AUSRS6

November 3rd, 2015, 09:01

Apikol intake, Wagner Intercoolers, Milltek catback, custom indicator fluid reservoir, tuned by Bayside Performance Services, Cleveland, Queensland and MOTHERS wax products.

GreggPDX

November 3rd, 2015, 17:20

Apikol intake, Wagner Intercoolers, Milltek catback, custom indicator fluid reservoir, tuned by Bayside Performance Services, Cleveland, Queensland and MOTHERS wax products.

Is the green line stock?

For those of us still stuck with imperial units:

259kw = 347hp
600nm = 443ftlb

322kw = 432hp
800nm = 590ftlb

Nice numbers any way you measure!

ttboost

November 3rd, 2015, 20:33

I seem to recall my car (with manual conversion) making 475/575 on a Mustang dyno, with stock turbo's and stock IC's. I think that is typical for a manual conversion...

AUSRS6

November 4th, 2015, 09:49

The green is stock red is tuned, it was dialled back 10-15% for reliability and tyre economy..pfft that idea is not working.... Miltek 100 cell cats and dp's are next, cant wait to see and feel the difference. I would consider a manual swap perhaps in the future if i end up doing turbos etc.. but im very pleased with my freshly serviced auto.

nistah

November 4th, 2015, 14:53

The dyno for my previous car is can be found in the link below it was good for about 500 Flywheel HP tune was only mod
http://www.rs6.com/showthread.php/24057-FOR-SALE-Pearl-Grey-Silver-RS6-w-Warranty-to-2014-MTM-Eurocharged-Tune-amp-RNS-E (http://www.rs6.com/showthread.php/24057-FOR-SALE-Pearl-Grey-Silver-RS6-w-Warranty-to-2014-MTM-Eurocharged-Tune-amp-RNS-E)
I've not dyno'd my new car and it's not been tuned

GreggPDX

November 4th, 2015, 19:27

I'd love to see a dyno chart with hybrid turbos. I'm curious to see when they spool and how well they hold boost. It's pretty clear the stock turbos are done by 6K rpm.

peiserg

November 7th, 2015, 15:11

i think i'm at 380 and 405 hp/tq with milltek high flow cats and exhaust, plus OCT tune. Dynojet. Noticeable improvement over stock. Same dyno had me at 320 awhp stock with 5000 miles on the car

RKturbo

November 7th, 2015, 15:39

1/4 mile times also lie. Just as different dynos provide different results, so do different drivers. Put five drivers in the same car, put one driver in five different cars, put five drivers in five different cars. . . It's an interesting experiment I bet.

Dynos are good for deltas is something that I've always said. Not for stated HP/TQ numbers.

I would agree somewhat. Though with our cars especially, I do not think driver makes that much difference. These cars are not really difficult to drive and are pretty consistent. Really only thing to me that would seem to make a big difference is of course air temps. Still, like you stated they are both good for measuring points. Me personally, I like to see the results more than the numbers so time slips are more important as dyno really does not show how fast a car is and is more about theorizing what it might do. Still have to take in stuff like weight, traction ect. Having #'s and getting it to the ground can be very different. Just my .01:thumb:

Corbett

November 7th, 2015, 21:27

Guys saying 1/4 mile differ by driver need to understand that trap speeds really don't. They are the ultimate way to tell how much power a car is really making. ET is based on the driver a lot. Thus the sayings "trap don't lie" or "what's your dyno sheet trap?"

ZCD2.7T

November 9th, 2015, 01:08

...Thus the sayings "trap don't lie" or "what's your dyno sheet trap?"

On that very topic, I ran 12.214 @ 113.2 today. The various HP calculators suggest that my car is making 485-518 flywheel hp. (bone stock 2013 S6)

LaserSVT

November 29th, 2015, 05:01

335.5 and 355.5 at the wheels. Stock tune and intake with Miltek Exhaust. First two runs car made 377 and 385hp before the computer realized it was making a little too much boost and cut it back to 9 psi.d

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x135/orange92gt/Audi%20RS6/IMG_20151128_103717441_zpsimvbg62y.jpg (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/orange92gt/media/Audi%20RS6/IMG_20151128_103717441_zpsimvbg62y.jpg.html)