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RS Sick
September 18th, 2015, 15:05
As I've previously posted about my car hasn't performed well at the dragstrip. I understand this isn't a "drag" car and don't plan on dragging it after i make one decent pass. My question is about the effects of heatsoak on these cars. Like i mentioned, it was 70 degrees but after driving to the track and doing tech inspection they called sportsman class and i went right down. I let the hood free-fall (like a dummy) after the tech inspec and the hood release tab slid over so I couldn't open the hood; therefore car sat there baking for about 20 minutes before my run. I've uploaded a video shot in MX shortly after my intercooler upgrade was complete and it doesn't seem slow, nor did it feel slow.
I know a better tune with more timing/fuel will only take it to another level, but could heatsoak really have robbed about a full second and 8-9MPH in the 1/4? I hit 100 in about 11.5 seconds with soft launch, but it took about 14 at the track.
https://youtu.be/GV0Ja0HsyLA
Other_Erik
September 18th, 2015, 15:14
Heat soak is no joke, will easily rob you of the difference between an OK run and a good run, or good run to great run. Gotta let her breathe and get temps down. Have you gotten your headers ceramic coated or at least header wrapped everything other than the cats? Do you have your belly pan on / done the sportec mod? Considered cutting the hood for heat dispersion? I know there's templates here for the brave at heart, I don't think I could bring myself to chop into the beast's bonnet...
O_E
RS Sick
September 18th, 2015, 15:46
I haven't done the Sportec belly pan mod yet. I saw Pats old DIY post and plan on doing that soon. No way i chop up the hood though!
lswing
September 18th, 2015, 17:57
In cool weather (50 degrees) it takes me 10 seconds to hit 100. Heat soak turns this car turd slow. You need water meth to run full power in 80 degree plus temps, and certainly sitting around at idle will heat soak you heavily.
DHall1
September 19th, 2015, 00:01
I live this daily 5 months a year!!!!
you lose boost timing and fuel with higher IAT temps
In cool weather (50 degrees) it takes me 10 seconds to hit 100. Heat soak turns this car turd slow. You need water meth to run full power in 80 degree plus temps, and certainly sitting around at idle will heat soak you heavily.
RKturbo
September 19th, 2015, 16:42
A little longer than that here. Actually about 2 months that I'm not! Lol Why I'm in process of installing a Devils Own kit now.
RS Sick
September 19th, 2015, 16:52
52 degrees so I figured good time to run some logs; 2, 3, 31. Timing higher for sure with lower IATs
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8.74
5600
157.9
197.25
201.92
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5560
364.08
100
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0.835
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5640
157.1
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199.47
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5600
364.08
100
10.5
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0.81
0.83
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0.83
9
5680
155.6
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208.58
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5680
364.08
100
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0.84
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5760
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206.08
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5720
364.08
100
12
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5800
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205.25
9.17
5760
364.08
100
15.8
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0.82
0.84
0.835
0.835
9.35
5800
153.4
197.42
208.58
9.28
5800
364.08
100
14.3
9.32
0.815
0.84
0.825
0.84
9.47
5880
151.9
198.06
202.56
9.39
5840
364.08
100
12.8
9.43
0.815
0.84
0.825
0.83
9.59
5920
150.4
196.03
204.83
9.5
5840
364.08
100
15.8
9.54
0.815
0.84
0.825
0.835
9.71
5960
149.6
196.03
206.92
9.63
5920
364.08
100
15.8
9.66
0.81
0.84
0.82
0.83
9.83
6000
150.4
197.67
206.75
9.76
5960
364.08
100
14.3
9.8
0.81
0.845
0.83
0.84
9.96
6040
148.9
202.19
208.42
9.88
6040
364.08
100
18
9.92
0.835
0.855
0.835
0.84
10.08
6080
147.4
198.69
208.42
10.01
6080
364.08
100
15
10.04
0.82
0.845
0.84
0.845
10.21
6120
145.9
195.03
208.42
10.13
6120
364.08
100
14.3
10.17
0.82
0.85
0.83
0.84
10.33
6200
147.4
202.17
203.39
10.26
6160
364.08
99.6
18
10.29
0.815
0.84
0.825
0.835
10.46
6200
144.4
202.92
201.75
10.38
6160
364.08
100
15
10.42
0.81
0.84
0.84
0.835
10.58
6240
145.1
198.97
204.11
10.51
6240
364.08
100
18.8
10.54
0.81
0.84
0.825
0.84
10.71
6280
143.6
195.03
206.75
10.63
6280
364.08
100
15
10.67
0.805
0.835
0.835
0.83
10.83
6320
143.6
201.75
205.56
10.76
6320
364.08
100
18.8
10.79
0.815
0.84
0.82
0.835
10.96
6400
140.6
198.92
205.08
10.88
6320
364.08
100
15.8
10.92
0.805
0.835
0.835
0.835
11.08
6400
140.6
202.67
206.75
11.01
6400
364.08
99.6
19.5
11.04
0.81
0.835
0.825
0.835
11.21
6440
139.8
200.33
206.75
11.13
6440
364.08
100
19.5
11.17
0.82
0.84
0.825
0.83
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RS Sick
September 19th, 2015, 16:54
combined MAF rule of g/s x 1.25 fairly accurate?
if so max of 410 would net right around 512 CHP
RS Sick
September 19th, 2015, 17:00
2nd pull; 3, 31, 115. Car was fast today, Iswing- what's this water/meth kit?
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100
9
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0.83
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5760
154.1
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1780
10.23
5840
364.08
100
11.3
10.28
0.805
0.83
0.82
0.835
10.19
5800
152.6
1900
1770
10.35
5880
364.08
100
12
10.4
0.81
0.835
0.82
0.83
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5840
151.1
1910
1770
10.48
5920
364.08
100
13.5
10.52
0.815
0.84
0.825
0.83
10.45
5920
151.1
1920
1760
10.61
5960
364.08
100
14.3
10.64
0.81
0.845
0.83
0.835
10.57
5960
151.1
1920
1740
10.72
6000
364.08
100
18
10.75
0.815
0.84
0.825
0.84
10.68
6000
149.6
1930
1740
10.85
6080
364.08
100
12.8
10.89
0.805
0.84
0.825
0.83
10.8
6040
147.4
1930
1740
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6120
364.08
100
13.5
11.03
0.81
0.845
0.83
0.835
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6080
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1740
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6120
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99.6
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1940
1750
11.23
6160
364.08
100
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0.84
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145.9
1940
1740
11.37
6200
364.08
99.6
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0.805
0.83
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0.835
11.32
6200
143.6
1940
1750
11.49
6240
364.08
100
13.5
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0.8
0.835
0.825
0.83
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6240
142.9
1940
1760
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6320
364.08
100
14.3
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0.805
0.83
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0.83
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6280
143.6
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1740
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6360
364.08
99.6
14.3
11.78
0.805
0.835
0.83
0.83
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6320
142.9
1950
1740
11.87
6360
364.08
100
14.3
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0.795
0.835
0.83
0.825
11.82
6360
141.4
1950
1750
11.99
6400
364.08
99.6
19.5
12.03
0.805
0.835
0.825
0.835
11.95
6400
141.4
1950
1750
12.1
6440
364.08
100
15.8
12.15
0.8
0.83
0.825
0.835
12.07
6440
139.8
1960
1750
</tbody>
LaserSVT
September 19th, 2015, 20:55
I have been wanting to remove all my shielding to get a closer look at what I can and can not do to my intercooling system. When I had my Cobras I had these tiny fans I think made by Spall in my air to water heat exchanger for the supercharger and it dropped a solid 30* from my IATs while sitting in traffic to where it would typically be 10-20* above ambient. After drag passes the system would cool back to normal temps by the time I hit the timing slip box.
I was thinking if I could add thoes to the back side of the ICs it would make one heck of a change.
So RS Sick, when you launch at the strip how do you do it? Any load up of the engine or do you launch at idle or what?
lswing
September 19th, 2015, 21:52
Devils Own makes a simple solid kit, other fancier more expensive brands out there too. There's a section on the website in my sig, details install.
lswing
September 19th, 2015, 21:54
I have been wanting to remove all my shielding to get a closer look at what I can and can not do to my intercooling system. When I had my Cobras I had these tiny fans I think made by Spall in my air to water heat exchanger for the supercharger and it dropped a solid 30* from my IATs while sitting in traffic to where it would typically be 10-20* above ambient. After drag passes the system would cool back to normal temps by the time I hit the timing slip box.
I was thinking if I could add thoes to the back side of the ICs it would make one heck of a change.
So RS Sick, when you launch at the strip how do you do it? Any load up of the engine or do you launch at idle or what?
I almost installed some fans, or direct spray CO2 on the ICs. Water meth works pretty darn good though, so just stopped at that.
RS Sick
September 20th, 2015, 00:42
So RS Sick, when you launch at the strip how do you do it? Any load up of the engine or do you launch at idle or what?
My 60' wasn't stellar but got a fairly "safe" IMO for TC launch @ 2.1. Basically left foot brake, start pressing gas once Christmas tree starts, released brake on 3rd yellow. Usually rpm is at 1500 or so; duck-rat-foot or whatever it probably faster
RS Sick
September 20th, 2015, 00:45
Devils Own makes a simple solid kit, other fancier more expensive brands out there too. There's a section on the website in my sig, details install.
Thanks, I'll check it out.
my logs look better today?
lswing
September 20th, 2015, 01:03
Thanks, I'll check it out.
my logs look better today?
Your 3, 31, 115 group doesn't show until the end. I think ideally your timing won't hit single digits for max power, or at least be 7-9 under max boost.
Here's my 0-100 run, ~10 seconds. 50 degrees out, and I had been driving for about 45 minutes before this, so all was warm. I eased into the launch, just a little gas to get the TC going and then full gas. This is on a moderate tune, about 16psi, stock intercoolers...the car had just been at the shop so everything was buttoned up tight and running great. Since this run I have the Wagner's, a more aggressive tune, and water meth...most of this helps keep power in the summer.
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RS Sick
September 20th, 2015, 01:28
Here's part of log from earlier in the RPM range. Timing was lower down low, and mostly in the teens from 5,840 to redline.
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4880
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100
9.8
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1880
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4920
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5.3
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1860
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6
8.21
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364.08
100
7.5
8.33
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1850
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364.08
100
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8.44
0.83
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5080
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100
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0.825
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0.835
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1820
8.65
5200
364.08
100
7.5
8.69
0.82
0.845
0.83
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5200
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1860
1820
8.78
5240
364.08
100
7.5
8.82
0.81
0.84
0.835
0.835
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5240
162.4
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1840
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5320
364.08
100
8.3
8.96
0.82
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0.83
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5280
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1820
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5360
364.08
100
11.3
9.08
0.82
0.845
0.84
0.84
8.99
5320
163.2
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1800
9.18
5440
364.08
100
9
9.22
0.81
0.84
0.83
0.83
9.13
5400
161.7
1860
1790
9.32
5480
364.08
100
8.3
9.36
0.815
0.845
0.835
0.83
9.27
5440
160.2
1860
1790
9.46
5520
364.08
100
8.3
9.51
0.815
0.845
0.83
0.83
9.41
5480
160.2
1860
1780
9.6
5600
364.08
100
7.5
9.64
0.805
0.83
0.82
0.83
9.55
5560
157.9
1870
1780
9.71
5640
364.08
100
8.3
9.76
0.81
0.835
0.82
0.825
9.67
5640
156.4
1870
1790
9.85
5680
364.08
100
9
9.9
0.815
0.835
0.82
0.83
9.8
5680
155.6
1880
1780
9.97
5720
364.08
100
8.3
10.01
0.805
0.835
0.82
0.825
9.94
5720
154.9
1890
1780
</tbody>
RS Sick
September 20th, 2015, 01:44
Here's my 0-100 run, ~10 seconds. 50 degrees out, and I had been driving for about 45 minutes before this, so all was warm. I eased into the launch, just a little gas to get the TC going and then full gas. This is on a moderate tune, about 16psi, stock intercoolers...
Good run man, I got your 0-60 about 4.5 or less (with traction control enabled?) and at about 10.4 to 100. I'll need to take another vid once it's below 50 with an actual launch. Looks like my max boost is 2050 or about 1 bar- so I think i'll be lucky to break 10s to 100 with this tune. Maybe APR tune isn't too bad after all and it was my ignorance to heat soak aka the devil.
LaserSVT
September 20th, 2015, 02:32
I have lots of high HP friends (domestics) running meth and its amazing to see the amount of extra boost they can run and keep the IATs down. Still want to dyno mine and get some boost data to try and figure out what tune is in my car and wanted to do just a couple 1/4 mile runs for fun. I appreciate the info on the launch. I dont want to hurt the trans and launch too hard. Id would prefer to spend $3000 on something other than a rebuild. LOL
And you did that with the ESP on? Dang.
LaserSVT
September 20th, 2015, 02:37
2nd pull; 3, 31, 115. Car was fast today, Iswing- what's this water/meth kit?
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9
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11.3
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152.6
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1770
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12
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1770
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5920
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100
13.5
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5920
151.1
1920
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5960
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100
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1920
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100
18
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6000
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6080
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100
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1930
1740
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6120
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100
13.5
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6080
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1930
1740
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6120
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99.6
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145.1
1940
1750
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100
18.8
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6160
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1940
1740
11.37
6200
364.08
99.6
18.8
11.4
0.805
0.83
0.815
0.835
11.32
6200
143.6
1940
1750
11.49
6240
364.08
100
13.5
11.53
0.8
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0.825
0.83
11.44
6240
142.9
1940
1760
11.62
6320
364.08
100
14.3
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6280
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1950
1740
11.74
6360
364.08
99.6
14.3
11.78
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0.83
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6320
142.9
1950
1740
11.87
6360
364.08
100
14.3
11.9
0.795
0.835
0.83
0.825
11.82
6360
141.4
1950
1750
11.99
6400
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99.6
19.5
12.03
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0.835
0.825
0.835
11.95
6400
141.4
1950
1750
12.1
6440
364.08
100
15.8
12.15
0.8
0.83
0.825
0.835
12.07
6440
139.8
1960
1750
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Look I hate to be uber newb here but I have to learn somewhere. What is each part of that data-log? RPMs I understand but is the rest boost, IATs, AFRs and what? Just let me know what oder I am looking at. Also, is this the vagcom log David had mentioned to me? Seems I remember 3,31 and 115 he said to help figure out what my tune is doing to help figure out what kind it is.
RS Sick
September 20th, 2015, 03:15
NP, I'm a noob too but enjoy learning.
columns left to right: time stamp, RPM, combined MAF (max out at 364.08 unless measured individually in block 2), throttle valve angle, ignition timing, time stamp, next four columns are lambda or AFR, time stamp, RPM, no idea, boost requested, boost actual.
Boost actual should be close to boost requested all the way up to about 5,200 rpm, after that combo of small snails and back pressure of precats prevent full boost to redline. But this is all based on what I've learned from these forums.
LaserSVT
September 20th, 2015, 03:26
I have a stupid follow up question then, 1960 what? What measurement is that taken in? I know PSI and BAR and N/mm2 but cant figure out what that measurement is.
DHall1
September 20th, 2015, 03:31
Bar minus atm
DHall1
September 20th, 2015, 03:32
My two step launch control ecu has landed.
Testing tomorrow
LaserSVT
September 20th, 2015, 03:52
Bar minus atm
Hello sir, that is the data you said I need to log with my friends vagcom in 3rd from 2500- redline right?
Also I have no idea what that means "Bar minus ATM" I dont know what ATM is nor how much boost in Bar the car is making so i dont understand the equation.
RKturbo
September 20th, 2015, 04:56
logs shows the boost is in millibars. 1psi of boost is 0.01450 mbar. ATM is atmospheric which is 'roughly' 1000 mbar you have to deduct that from boost shown to get actual. Sooo the actual max boost in the log above is 1780-1000 for ATM leaving 780 mbar which converts to roughly 11.3lbs of boost.
RS Sick
September 20th, 2015, 05:00
I have a stupid follow up question then, 1960 what? What measurement is that taken in? I know PSI and BAR and N/mm2 but cant figure out what that measurement is.
1960 Millibar - but this includes atmospheric pressure (aprox 1,000 mbar at sea level) so you have to subtract that. My tune calls for 2060 max, and at 2,500' elevation, my atmospheric mbar is 925. 2060-925 = 1135 mbar or 16.5 PSI.
RS Sick
September 20th, 2015, 05:02
RK beat me to it. But yes, boost tapers to almost 12 psi by redline considering my altitude.
RS Sick
September 20th, 2015, 05:06
My two step launch control ecu has landed.
Testing tomorrow
Built into 10sec tune?
launch video possible?
RKturbo
September 20th, 2015, 05:17
BTW, maybe Dave or one of the other more knowledgeable guys can chime in but that boost seems a little low for a tuned car to me. I think the requested seems about right at about 14lbs. Sure no leaks?
2nd pull; 3, 31, 115. Car was fast today, Iswing- what's this water/meth kit?
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10.1
5800
364.08
100
9
10.15
0.81
0.84
0.83
0.83
10.06
5760
154.1
1900
1780
10.23
5840
364.08
100
11.3
10.28
0.805
0.83
0.82
0.835
10.19
5800
152.6
1900
1770
10.35
5880
364.08
100
12
10.4
0.81
0.835
0.82
0.83
10.31
5840
151.1
1910
1770
10.48
5920
364.08
100
13.5
10.52
0.815
0.84
0.825
0.83
10.45
5920
151.1
1920
1760
10.61
5960
364.08
100
14.3
10.64
0.81
0.845
0.83
0.835
10.57
5960
151.1
1920
1740
10.72
6000
364.08
100
18
10.75
0.815
0.84
0.825
0.84
10.68
6000
149.6
1930
1740
10.85
6080
364.08
100
12.8
10.89
0.805
0.84
0.825
0.83
10.8
6040
147.4
1930
1740
10.98
6120
364.08
100
13.5
11.03
0.81
0.845
0.83
0.835
10.93
6080
147.4
1930
1740
11.1
6120
364.08
99.6
12.8
11.14
0.81
0.835
0.83
0.835
11.07
6120
145.1
1940
1750
11.23
6160
364.08
100
18.8
11.28
0.815
0.84
0.83
0.84
11.18
6160
145.9
1940
1740
11.37
6200
364.08
99.6
18.8
11.4
0.805
0.83
0.815
0.835
11.32
6200
143.6
1940
1750
11.49
6240
364.08
100
13.5
11.53
0.8
0.835
0.825
0.83
11.44
6240
142.9
1940
1760
11.62
6320
364.08
100
14.3
11.65
0.805
0.83
0.815
0.83
11.57
6280
143.6
1950
1740
11.74
6360
364.08
99.6
14.3
11.78
0.805
0.835
0.83
0.83
11.7
6320
142.9
1950
1740
11.87
6360
364.08
100
14.3
11.9
0.795
0.835
0.83
0.825
11.82
6360
141.4
1950
1750
11.99
6400
364.08
99.6
19.5
12.03
0.805
0.835
0.825
0.835
11.95
6400
141.4
1950
1750
12.1
6440
364.08
100
15.8
12.15
0.8
0.83
0.825
0.835
12.07
6440
139.8
1960
1750
</tbody>
RS Sick
September 20th, 2015, 05:29
Pretty sure they confirmed boost taper at upper RPMs is normal. Same log- earlier RPM range, confident no leaks.
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4.85
3240
244.39
99.6
9.8
4.89
0.07
0.07
0.565
0.115
4.82
3240
146.6
2070
1750
4.95
3320
255.17
100
7.5
4.99
0.06
0.085
0.1
0.09
4.92
3280
154.1
2070
1840
5.04
3360
261.19
100
11.3
5.08
0.055
0.06
0.07
0.105
5.01
3360
157.9
2060
1930
5.15
3400
260.06
100
6
5.18
0.05
0.05
0.1
0.07
5.11
3360
162.4
2060
1970
5.26
3480
277
100
10.5
5.3
0.06
0.065
0.075
0.08
5.21
3440
168.4
2050
2000
5.38
3560
281.14
100
6
5.41
0.655
0.295
0.72
0.175
5.34
3480
171.4
2050
2040
5.49
3560
292.78
100
9.8
5.51
0.735
0.725
0.775
0.78
5.45
3560
175.2
2040
2050
5.58
3680
276.31
100
6
5.6
0.775
0.8
0.805
0.79
5.55
3640
174.4
2030
2060
5.69
3720
290.56
100
6
5.73
0.8
0.82
0.815
0.815
5.65
3640
175.9
2020
2060
5.81
3800
297.86
100
11.3
5.84
0.805
0.82
0.81
0.81
5.77
3760
175.2
2010
2050
5.9
3840
302.36
100
6
5.93
0.805
0.825
0.81
0.82
5.88
3840
174.4
2000
2040
6
3880
299.86
100
7.5
6.06
0.81
0.825
0.8
0.82
5.96
3880
172.9
2000
2040
6.12
4000
309.11
100
8.3
6.15
0.805
0.825
0.815
0.815
6.09
3960
172.2
1990
2030
6.24
4040
308.78
100
11.3
6.27
0.815
0.835
0.81
0.82
6.2
4000
172.2
1980
2020
6.33
4080
313.89
100
11.3
6.36
0.81
0.82
0.81
0.82
6.29
4040
169.9
1980
2010
6.45
4160
312.06
100
7.5
6.49
0.8
0.83
0.815
0.815
6.4
4120
169.2
1980
2000
6.57
4200
320.69
100
10.5
6.61
0.815
0.835
0.815
0.815
6.53
4200
168.4
1970
1980
</tbody>
RKturbo
September 20th, 2015, 05:36
Ahhhhh there we go. Much better.
RS Sick
September 20th, 2015, 05:45
Sorry, only have a limited version of excel so I apologize for all the copy pasted logs. there's probably a way to format for a better view. All of 115
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2600
1000
1090
2600
1030
1110
2640
1080
1130
2680
1140
1140
2680
1220
1160
2720
1230
1180
2760
1260
1170
2800
1280
1190
2840
1300
1230
2880
1330
1250
2920
1390
1260
2920
1470
1280
2960
1560
1310
3040
1600
1360
3040
1680
1430
3120
1800
1510
3120
1880
1570
3200
2080
1670
3240
2070
1750
3280
2070
1840
3360
2060
1930
3360
2060
1970
3440
2050
2000
3480
2050
2040
3560
2040
2050
3640
2030
2060
3640
2020
2060
3760
2010
2050
3840
2000
2040
3880
2000
2040
3960
1990
2030
4000
1980
2020
4040
1980
2010
4120
1980
2000
4200
1970
1980
4240
1970
1960
4320
1970
1960
4320
1970
1930
4400
1980
1940
4440
1970
1920
4480
1970
1930
4560
1970
1930
4600
1970
1920
4640
1970
1930
4680
1960
1930
4760
1960
1910
4800
1940
1880
4840
1920
1880
4880
1890
1860
4960
1870
1850
5000
1870
1850
5080
1870
1840
5120
1860
1820
5200
1860
1820
5240
1860
1840
5280
1860
1820
5320
1860
1800
5400
1860
1790
5440
1860
1790
5480
1860
1780
5560
1870
1780
5640
1870
1790
5680
1880
1780
5720
1890
1780
5760
1900
1780
5800
1900
1770
5840
1910
1770
5920
1920
1760
5960
1920
1740
6000
1930
1740
6040
1930
1740
6080
1930
1740
6120
1940
1750
6160
1940
1740
6200
1940
1750
6240
1940
1760
6280
1950
1740
6320
1950
1740
6360
1950
1750
6400
1950
1750
6440
1960
1750
6480
1960
1750
</tbody><colgroup><col><col><col></colgroup>
lswing
September 20th, 2015, 05:55
Nice. Yes, export from Excel as webpage. Open webpage locally and copy content with cursor, then paste into a post on here. Clean up as much as you can in Excel before this. You'll hit the 50k character limit for posting on here.
Above 16-17psi the turbos get way hot, and past peak performance. Requesting high boost, say 19psi, causes the turbos to come on too quick too hard and fizzle out. The goal with this engine is max timing, and not hot turbo air. Get the timing and boost at that sweet spot and hold on! HP increases up the dyno chart just as the boost tapers around 4,500, lovely.
LaserSVT
September 20th, 2015, 05:59
Thank all of you for the lesson! This is great. I have many plans to eek the most I can out of mine and this is all very helpful.