Sold the Rs/6 on to an s7

[dab]

I have sold the rs/6 and have moved to an s7. After owning the rs6 for 9 years and loving almost every minute, sold it as the down payment on this beauty. Purchased CPO from Atlanta Audi 2014 s7 exclusive edition 15k miles and 20k under its as new sticker. Picking it up thursday for the drive back home. What better way to get to know a car than to drive it for 8 hours or so. I have purchased a vagcom, so first thing will be lowering. Next will be APR Chip, HRE wheels most likely a resonator delete. Had the dealership xpel the car as well so the drive home will be hopefully care free and fun as hell. I am very interested in comparing the two when chipped. The torque on the rs/6 is unbelievable that is why it eats transmissions. This will probably be a stepping stone to a cpo rs7 in a few years.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/99648513@N06/page1/?details=1

Pictures hopefully



5TL - INLAY - PIANO BLACK,
6NQ - BLACK CLOTH HEADLINER,
C7E - AUDI EXCLUSIVE EDITION 1,
GZ2 - POWER CLOSING DOORS,
PAW - COLD WEATHER PACKAGE,
PCN - DRIVER ASSIST PACKAGE,
PPS - BLACK OPTIC PACKAGE,
PS8 - COMFORT SEATING PACKAGE,

I have recommended this forum to the new owner. This is one of the best with the most knowledgeable people.

[ZCD2.7T]

I have sold the rs/6 and have moved to an s7....I am very interested in comparing the two when chipped...

Congratulations - that's a gorgeous S7!

Stock to stock, the figures say that the S7 is actually quicker AND faster than the C5 RS6, so I'll be interested in your comments after your initial drive.

Enjoy!

[kruat]

I've driven many S6s and S7s, and while stock for stock, the new 4.0tts are faster, they still just don't have that raw thrust of power the rs6 delievers. I never driven a chipped version of either, so I can't compare. But I do love the interiors on the new S6/S7s.

Congrats on the new ride, I'm sure you'll enjoy it.

[Bigglezworth]

I've driven many S6s and S7s, and while stock for stock, the new 4.0tts are faster, they still just don't have that raw thrust of power the rs6 delievers.It's not the engine that is faster..... It's the tranny that has more gears, shorter gearing, and better shifting. That is what is accounting for the additional 10's of a second quicker than the previous RS rides.

[Turbowned]

That is one sexy S7; congratulations!! Love the wheel and color combination.

[nistah]

Beautiful S7 you've got there enjoy. I recall the 2014 OEM S7's being rated at 420 HP from the factory however this was supposedly seriously conservative rating and as tested the cars put down 480 HP on dyno. A friend has an 2015 and we checked apr, w/ a tune the HP goes to 560 which is right at RS6 HP levels.

[ZCD2.7T]

It's not the engine that is faster...

C7 S6s and S7s typically trap between 112 and 115 mph in the 1/4, whereas C5 RS6s generally see more like 107-109 mph.

Considering that the curb weights are close, those extra MPH aren't the result of extra gears or shift speed, they're the result of extra horsepower....

[kruat]

Not necessarily extra horsepower, but a much more efficient transmission as well. And all these new 4.0tts are under rated from the factory.

[mik15]

congrats, you'll love it :). Would've been nice to be able to keep both, but the S7 will make you more than happy! It is definitely quicker than the C5 RS6, though you won't really feel it, unless you keep an eye on the speedo. I drove the C7 S6 and it is a really good machine, it lacks a bit the grunt of the C5 but it is much more refined and smooth which makes it a perfect every day car at the same time being a powerful tool when required.

[Aronis]

I drove an S7 and S6 on a track at an Audi event. VERY NICE CAR. And with a $1500 tune it's Crazy Fast.

Enjoy,

Mike

[dab]

thanks everyone. I have driven a stock s7 and it has some turbo lag that the apr chip will take care. It was a different feeling than the rs6 and I have been running the apr chip since 2006 in it. Amazing torque. But 3.5 0-60 and 11.5 quarter mile after chip for the s7, yes sir. BTW I did try the launch control with a salesman in the car works like a charm ;). Would have loved to keep the rs6 but this is an effective replacement performance wise and with the hatch it has more cargo area than my suv. Besides the fact cpo 100k warranty. Just spent 9500 on the rs6 new tranny, tc, timing belt, etc... Selling both of my vehicles for this. Purchased a vagcom and this c7 platform provides a number of fun modifications like lowering the air suspension up to 17mm.

[Aronis]

I was going to trade my RS6 to get a new 2013 S8 which was same color combination so none would have noticed the swap LOL, but they only offered me $5,000 in trade! WTF.....I got $5,000 in Audi loyalty without a trade on my A8L....those bastards..:)

Mike

[Turbowned]

Wow, you'd think they'd at least have offered you $10k to not look like a bunch of jerk-offs ;)

I was supposed to go to Monticello Motor Club to drive the S6, S7, S8, RS5 and R8 for the Audi Brand Specialist training when I was an Audi salesman in 2012. Unfortunately, this was my first sales position and as I really didn't know any better or have enough formal training or experience, I wasn't making the cut as a salesperson and got let go. So upset I had to miss that event. Go figure now that I've been in sales for 4 years that Audi dealer wants me to join their team again...

[Amulet-S6]

Beautiful. Keep us posted. I'm considering the same switch.

[DHall1]

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http://i1304.photobucket.com/albums/s532/03RSTT/S4cheetah_zps932ce544.jpeg

[Dmb408]

That is insulting...Let's just say the Manheim runs aren't even that bad on our cars (just looked). And that is my floor, in terms of dealers. If they don't offer me auction equivalent I chew their a** out. And they get real flush especially if its a dealer that has to supplant inventories often with auction, then you're really calling them out (you are giving them a car without buyer's fees and transport).


I was going to trade my RS6 to get a new 2013 S8 which was same color combination so none would have noticed the swap LOL, but they only offered me $5,000 in trade! WTF.....I got $5,000 in Audi loyalty without a trade on my A8L....those bastards..:)

Mike

[Aronis]

Turbowned, that 2012 event was the one I was at! LOL.....it was fun. The small track with the S5 vs TTRS was fun, I came in THIRD! LOL.

DMB408, I was quite surprised, but did not know what the car was worth at that point to begin with, but after looking at the used car market for my son and seeing what was out there for under 10K I was AMAZED at their low ball offer. 5 year old civics were going for 6 grand. What ever.....He's driving my A4 convertible.

Mike

[Amulet-S6]

Love this photo. Can you email me a copy of the photo, or a link, please?


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http://i1304.photobucket.com/albums/s532/03RSTT/S4cheetah_zps932ce544.jpeg

[dab]

Latest update, I lasted four days without the APR tune. Wow what a difference 563 hp and 627 torque, car got 24 mpg at 85 mph. The APR tune was cheaper 1600 versus 2k for the rs/6. Vagcom lowered it, turned off the seat belt chimes, key rolls down windows/sunroof, no warning when entering data in mmi when moving, drl to 100%. Pretty scary once I was done I had multiple faults but everything cleared, I thought I have this car for less than a week and I broke it. Engine sounds very nice with the windows down, still a little quiet. Handling with the sport differential is the backend really turns in compared to the rs/6. Driver Assist Package is the shit, adaptive cruise which in stop and go is a must, lane assist you can take your hands off the wheel and it keeps you in the lane, and blind spot warning. Comfort seats massage, heat/air very nice as well. One of the biggest things is when compared to the rs6, I was always expecting something else to break with the 6. Don't care now, good for the next 85k miles. This might be the end of the mods for me, stock wheels are nice and it is quiet but I don't think 5k for a new exhaust is worth it.

[4everRS]

Color me jealous

[kruat]

Hope you don't get flagged td1. Or you have a very good relationship with your service manager.

[DHall1]

My SQ5 stays bone stock driveline until 50001 miles.

Then watch out idjuits

[Bigglezworth]

Wow what a difference 563 hp and 627 torquePlease explain? These specs exist on many an RS6. I said it in another post, 10 years of development and a slightly quicker car in the S7 and RS7 models isn't attributed to the engine IMO. I attribute it to the transmission. The few 10's of a second are associated with more gears which can afford increases in gearing to aid in acceleration which the 5spd in the RS6 can't match. Add to that improved internals that make quicker shifts and voila you get a better end product. I would hope that a full decade of development along with lots of $$$$ would put a smile on ones face. :)

[dab]

Hope you don't get flagged td1. Or you have a very good relationship with your service manager.

I had the rs/6 apr tuned from about day one of purchase as well and it went to Audi until the end of its warranty. I never had any issues and trust me before I take the 7 in for service my apr dealer will flash it to stock.

[dab]

Please explain? These specs exist on many an RS6. I said it in another post, 10 years of development and a slightly quicker car in the S7 and RS7 models isn't attributed to the engine IMO. I attribute it to the transmission. The few 10's of a second are associated with more gears which can afford increases in gearing to aid in acceleration which the 5spd in the RS6 can't match. Add to that improved internals that make quicker shifts and voila you get a better end product. I would hope that a full decade of development along with lots of $$$$ would put a smile on ones face. :)

the difference was the stock s7, to tuned s7. The 7 is faster no doubt and I would agree the transmission shifts unbelievably fast. It doesn't have the same pull as the 6 but gets there faster and smoother. Even though 627 ft lbs of torque I never saw on my 6 even with apr stage 1. Yet, the 6 was almost violent acceleration is the only way I can describe it. Both platforms are the shit, much respect to both.

[DHall1]

Yes, but Audi looks at the flash counts. Dealer level has no influence on outcome when the car is linked up to Audi.




I had the rs/6 apr tuned from about day one of purchase as well and it went to Audi until the end of its warranty. I never had any issues and trust me before I take the 7 in for service my apr dealer will flash it to stock.

[kruat]

Yes, but Audi looks at the flash counts. Dealer level has no influence on outcome when the car is linked up to Audi.

Bingo. Flashes to stock makes no difference. Unless APR is doing something new, Audi could find out. But, not trying to start a pissing in match. Hope it doesn't happen to you, but I've seen several guys to tagged td1, with there ecu in stock mode. And once td1, Audi will never drop it off. You can try and tell the dealer to not scan the car, but Audi requires every car getting a full scan, with running a spec/actual comparison. And each dealer is supposed to be running the newest versions of ODIS, which is constantly changing and updating to detect modified ecus.

[dab]

Bingo. Flashes to stock makes no difference. Unless APR is doing something new, Audi could find out. But, not trying to start a pissing in match. Hope it doesn't happen to you, but I've seen several guys to tagged td1, with there ecu in stock mode. And once td1, Audi will never drop it off. You can try and tell the dealer to not scan the car, but Audi requires every car getting a full scan, with running a spec/actual comparison. And each dealer is supposed to be running the newest versions of ODIS, which is constantly changing and updating to detect modified ecus.


I guess we will find out, this discussion has raged all over audizine c7 page. What is interesting is I never did anything with the rs6 after getting apr stage 1, never had it flashed back to stock prior to 35k service etc...

[kruat]

Well the rs6 has older ecu tech, which I'm not sure what or how it's checked.

And ya, I've read the c7 pages at audizine, kinda funny actually.

[DHall1]

^^ thanks Kraut, I try to stay current. Almost bought a C7 S6 but it was APR tuned....no way would I touch it at 11k miles. No friggin way.

I like bingo and chicken dinners!,

[dab]

spoke with my salesman where I purchased the vehicle in Atlanta around the apr tune and td1. He said their dealership will work with the folks who have tunes if you are up front with it.

"We haven't...but it is possible that a dealership will. When plugged into the ECU the technicians tools sends back reports to Audi (unknowingly). Our service group require that you tell us upfront If you have the ECU tune to avoid this happening and we will work around it. "

This dealership is Jim Ellis, who supposedly is the top audi dealership in terms of volume in the us. Hope I don't have to go back to Atlanta for service. ;)

[v8a6]

Love this photo. Can you email me a copy of the photo, or a link, please?

That one was published when the car first came out. Audi later updated it...

http://ep1.pinkbike.org/p4pb12332604/p4pb12332604.jpg