Charger SRT Hellcat...

[Dmb408]

Is A LOT faster than a stock RS6. On the entrance ramp this morning (long one beside the hwy), I got a Chrysler engineer (manufacturer's plates and he was running the diagnostic computer facing him) to gun it. He was in front of me, I had the car in sport mode, holding the lower gear (3rd at about 60) and he CRUSHED me. The minute I heard the sound from him gunning it, I did, and it was like the RS6 was standing still. That is a very impressive motor, he was pulled away many many cars in a very short period of time. Even with my old car (tuned and Milltek turbo back) I don't think I would've even been close.

[Other_Erik]

Is A LOT faster than a stock RS6. On the entrance ramp this morning (long one beside the hwy), I got a Chrysler engineer (manufacturer's plates and he was running the diagnostic computer facing him) to gun it. He was in front of me, I had the car in sport mode, holding the lower gear (3rd at about 60) and he CRUSHED me. The minute I heard the sound from him gunning it, I did, and it was like the RS6 was standing still. That is a very impressive motor, he was pulled away many many cars in a very short period of time. Even with my old car (tuned and Milltek turbo back) I don't think I would've even been close.

IF it's stock form (big bad IF there), you're talking 707HP pushing a 3900lb beast through 1.8 lateral G's of acceleration. Yup, gonna be a lot quicker than a stock RS6. Take comfort that when you get snow, he'll be stuck spinning tires in a puddle and you'll be tooling along like nothing's wrong :)

O_E

[Dmb408]

I actually had your thought right away Eric, since he had the computer up I wondered if he dialed up the PSI on the charger on the spot and did for good measure just to put me in my place.

[lswing]

Stock RS6 is by no means fast, not really a comparison. You're leaving 50hp/100tq for starters just sitting there with no tune. But if there was any water on the ground you may have had a shot...

[Dmb408]

lswing, yes I had no preconceived notions of what was going to happen, but I was blown away nonetheless (and I had a good bit of seat time in my brother's CTS-V before he got rid of it so I feel like I have a faster-than-RS6 car prespective).

[lswing]

It's amazing he was able to get enough traction, sounds like the biggest issue with so much power and RWD. Being an engineer the driver had it dialed in sounds like. Now you just need a tune to really wake the beast up!

[SteveKen]

I'd love to have one of those...

Sounds fun and scary...

[mrdave]

Well yeah... 707hp, 650lb-ft, 0-60 in 3.4s, 0-100 in 7.2s ... that thing will crush the RS6, on dry pavement at least.

http://www.caranddriver.com/dodge/charger-srt-srt-hellcat

[RSoverAll]

Do beleive the boost is not adjustable on those cars w/o swapping out the blower pulley...

Also if you are familiar with the 07'+ body style GMCs, the Chrysler engine and trans ECU in those cars have the same type of torque management built into the the units themselves which can be tuned out however but is in place by the manufacturer and 99% of the time will not even allow you to spin the wheels on dry pavement with the traction control on or off.

Obviously the traction control in this one is dialed down a bit in terms of letting the engine do it's thing...

[ben916]

As I have posted before and I will post again -> add water = game over.

[Bigglezworth]

Simple physics speaking here. Straight line power and then some. This car will run high 10's on slicks. It will not corner worth a damn though which is not it's intended use. Also won't fair well in any sort of inclement weather and with it being only a few months old, long time reliability and quality control have yet to be proven. Would be a blast to own if you have a phat wallet to keep up with tire replacement every 5K. 275/20's aren't exactly inexpensive.... I have a quick Detroit powered ride in the garage that lays down low-mid 10's, but it's just not the same as owning the Audi. Yes the Audi is slower, but when you look at the bigger picture, it's quicker than the majority of vehicles ever made, AWD, and good quality in all areas except the OEM DRC.

[Erik]

Well yeah... 707hp, 650lb-ft, 0-60 in 3.4s, 0-100 in 7.2s ... that thing will crush the RS6, on dry pavement at least.

http://www.caranddriver.com/dodge/charger-srt-srt-hellcat



No surprise there at all.

[orcars6]

Sorry to offend anyone but the question does lure in our minds; deep love for the C5 RS6 always... but the thing keeps nagging at one thing or another/ oil leak after oil leak...what would I replace it with one day??? Another Audi- an S6 or down size with the floating rumor that the new RS4 may come to the US in 2016? Nissan GT-R?.... I know a different ride altogether but??? I don't think I'll settle for a Hellcat!

Do all Audis have this issue or is it only the aging beast with its fatigue vs. demand ratio that ails us?

No 'real' answers off the top of my head.

[Dmb408]

Guys I subscribe to two auto mags right now (a low point for me actually) C&D and Autoweek (<----- by far the best car mag) so I was well aware of the Hellcat's numbers and under no false impressions of stock C5 RS6 vs Hellcat. I just thought you guys would want to know how in awe I was of that type of speed. It was awesome...actually the sound of him pulling away and the crap he was throwing up from the pavement was the coolest.

[RSoverAll]

Having seen one in action here in Phoenix I'd have to agree. The sound and just the sheer speed is awe worthy.

But as previously mentioned, a big 6.2L V8 with a blower making around 707hp, c'mon what would one expect...

[RSoverAll]

Oh and orcars6, I'd have to agree, I for one would not settle for the Hellcat. As fast as it may be and all its "greatness" I'd still choose the slower, neurotic, and PITA at times RS6... or maybe the C6 model.

Hell maybe even the B8 S4...esp after a lil work.

[lswing]

Sorry to offend anyone but the question does lure in our minds; deep love for the C5 RS6 always... but the thing keeps nagging at one thing or another/ oil leak after oil leak...what would I replace it with one day??? Another Audi- an S6 or down size with the floating rumor that the new RS4 may come to the US in 2016? Nissan GT-R?.... I know a different ride altogether but??? I don't think I'll settle for a Hellcat!

Do all Audis have this issue or is it only the aging beast with its fatigue vs. demand ratio that ails us?

No 'real' answers off the top of my head.

What oil leaks? I've replaced more transmissions than oil leaks!

This is a very unique car for many reasons, and each owner enjoys in their own way, but the design, power, V8 rumble, all are not easy to find for a luxury car that is still sort of raw. Also a great price point if you can cover the maintenance.

Lots of different Audi's, each unique with pros and cons, similar to most car manufacturers. There have been some long discussions on folks that keep this versus a newer Audi, and those that have upgraded, and those that have both. Long discussion....I think once the RS7 prices come down to around $50k I may go for one. Still they lack the bold styling.

[Turbowned]

Best part about the Hellcat? Apparently, you can lease it :applause:

http://carbuying.jalopnik.com/you-can-lease-a-challenger-hellcat-because-dodge-has-go-1632370013

[nene]

The car looks good and it is darn fast too. There will be some very happy owners out there. Glad it is US made.

[Bigglezworth]

6.2L FI car vs 4.2L FI car. This is a simple numbers test. 50% more displacement equals 50% more power. 450-500 x 1.5 = 675-750.... There's a reason the 6.3L TT Merc's put down obscene numbers also.

That said, if you merely look at numbers - it's not all that impressive a stat. 707hp/6.2L=114hp/L. Many of our 4.2'sFI C5's put out 135hp/L or more; my old 2.5L FI Volvo put out 144hp/L; my 3.0L FI Honda engine puts out a tad more than 160hp/L; and my 4.1L FI Buick puts out a hair over 200hp/L....

[DHall1]

We own the first RS ever to hit US soil in a production retail sale.

Its 12 years old and was far ahead if its time.

Properly maintained and lightly modified it is still a thrill to drive every day.

Its a raw drivers car. The steering is right, the brakes are right, it rides and tracks like its glued to the road, and the power is smooth as butter.

I drove my daily 700 miles in one day this week, swapped euro RS6 recaros and made the mtn Julian fun run in SoCal on the way back with no problems. Heck and Iam an old fart.

Lol

Lets see what some 12yr/old Hellcats drive like after 12yrs on the roads.

http://i1304.photobucket.com/albums/s532/03RSTT/S4cheetah_zps932ce544.jpeg


Sorry to offend anyone but the question does lure in our minds; deep love for the C5 RS6 always... but the thing keeps nagging at one thing or another/ oil leak after oil leak...what would I replace it with one day??? Another Audi- an S6 or down size with the floating rumor that the new RS4 may come to the US in 2016? Nissan GT-R?.... I know a different ride altogether but??? I don't think I'll settle for a Hellcat!

Do all Audis have this issue or is it only the aging beast with its fatigue vs. demand ratio that ails us?

No 'real' answers off the top of my head.

[lswing]

^^^Good point on the steering, it's very accurate and enjoyable at moderate to high speed cornering...and it's always nice to have big brakes to scrub speed when getting into trouble...

[hahnmgh63]

orcas6, I only have 75k on my RS6 but it's never leaked. I've had at least 3 others up on my lift that were dry too?

[Bigglezworth]

Properly maintained and lightly modified it is still a thrill to drive every day.Exactly.

[orcars6]

orcas6, I only have 75k on my RS6 but it's never leaked. I've had at least 3 others up on my lift that were dry too?

Let's get this right....its orcaRS6!