Out with the TIP and in with the 01E

[kevin]

If you recall I did a lot to my Audi during the winter of 2011-12. From maintenance to several mods. One of which included a modified torque convertor. It worked great, only all the shit behind it really didn't care for it. Towards the end of last summer the trans began slipping during the 1-2 upshift. So instead of rebuilding the TIP trans and hoping for the best, I decided to install a 01E 6 speed out of a TDI.
Below are several photos of the bits and pieces waiting for the swap.

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa293/vwmeister/IMG_5290_zps55b6d582.jpg Rebuilt TDI 01E with .56 6th gear
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa293/vwmeister/IMG_5289_zps3a560761.jpg Adapter kit w/custom made flywheel
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa293/vwmeister/IMG_5291_zpsa152d498.jpg South Bend Stage 4+ Extreem
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa293/vwmeister/IMG_5292_zpsfc3d1b48.jpg Misc bits and pieces

[Brav]

Nice! Where did you source the tranny from, and what price?

[kevin]

Scotty from Advanced Automotion shipped it to me along with the misc items.

[BuffaloRS6]

Awesome! Can't wait to see more pics as you install it!

[ben916]

this is GREAT!

[alrightroad]

That 01E looks like you can eat off it. Did Scotty rebuild it? Cant wait to hear how the project goes. Lets have some good timeline photos like you did last time, Kev. TIA.

Is it me or is that shift trim piece from a pre-facelift C5? i.e., wont fit RS.

[alrightroad]

Also, what are you doing about the coolant line holes on the trans? you plugging them up or? Any issues with plugging and the internal fluid pump?

[kevin]

It's been rebuilt and tested. Trim? Minor details to get sorted out later. I think I can fab the manual boot into what I have now. I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.

[kevin]

Also, what are you doing about the coolant line holes on the trans? you plugging them up or? Any issues with plugging and the internal fluid pump?
If you're speaking of the trans oil lines that flow through the radiator, then yes, I intend to seal off the fittings on the radiator and delete the lines. Not sure of the internal fluid pump you speak of.

[alrightroad]

It's been rebuilt and tested. Trim? Minor details to get sorted out later. I think I can fab the manual boot into what I have now. I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.

agree. you should be able to fit shift boot in TIP surround trim. SteveKen did it somehow...

[alrightroad]

If you're speaking of the trans oil lines that flow through the radiator, then yes, I intend to seal off the fittings on the radiator and delete the lines. Not sure of the internal fluid pump you speak of.

That TDI 01E should be cooler line holes on it. Maybe scotty rebuilt normal A6/S4 01E with TDI gearing? not sure what you have by looking at it. Also, the TDI original trans are supposed to have a twist flexing input shaft to absorb torque better.

[kevin]

"Twist flexing input shaft"

really?

maybe I need to send you more close ups of the trans so you can help me get down to the nuts and bolts about it

[alrightroad]

Thats what I've heard/read ("julex" on QW). Ask Scotty, I'm sure he will know something about it.

[alrightroad]

Here... 01E from euro C5 A6 TDI... Look at that beautiful metal-faced throwout bearing (thats stock!) 137351373613737

[Zmey]

Hey Kevin, will you have to get it tuned by AMD when everything is put together? or are there other options. What made you go with south bend over fx400 CM?

very nice project, this is what a lot of us dream about. Looking forward to more pics and progress.

[kevin]

I asked Jerry at EuroCharged to work on a modified tune. If, he can't come up with a solution then I'll have to give AMD a call. Hopefully Jerry can make his tune work.

Clutch choice was based on a lot of forum reading/user reviews, Scotty endorsement and finally, cost.

[SteveKen]

Here... 01E from euro C5 A6 TDI... Look at that beautiful metal-faced throwout bearing (thats stock!) 137351373613737

That SB clutch has a steel thrust bearing, too.

[alrightroad]

That SB clutch has a steel thrust bearing, too.

Nice. Good work on that kit. wish I was ready for mine. Gotta finish the allroad first.

[mrdave]

This is exactly what I plan on doing as soon as I can! Kevin, do you have a ballpark estimate on cost when it's all said and done? Are you going to do the work or bring it to a shop?

[ttboost]

Very nice...you will be a happy man ...once it's done...

[SteveKen]

agree. you should be able to fit shift boot in TIP surround trim. SteveKen did it somehow...

You have options and it dependson what you can find on a manual A6 or allroad. The bad thing about the surround is that the manual cars didn't have any (at least that I could find) wood trim options that are an exact match to the RS6's wood trim. THen you have to go cutting and it's dangerous to do without chipping the clearcoat/resin/etc. Finish of the surround. I even chipped the wood out on the surround of my former (silver) 6 spd S6.

My current S6 w/ faux alcantara boot (engine is pulled on it currently):
http://www.kendrish.com/galleries/blackS6/6spd_shifter.jpg


The old RS6 with a soft alcantara boot filling the automatic opening (didn't open up the surround yet)
http://www.kendrish.com/galleries/RS6/conversion/pre_boot.jpg


The RS6 with the proper opening done (sorry for small pic):
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RS6 with OEM CF and no trim:
http://www.kendrish.com/galleries/RS6_2/shifter.jpg


I personally like the metal bezel trim, but they are expensinve to get new because I think you have to buy the whole surround.

I customized mine from a B5 surround. It fits pretty closely, but you have to modify the piece that the plasting backing ring that plastic piece inside teh boot clips to.

Interesting fact is that the surround has the holes predrilled in the aluminum backing for the larger manual surround. The screw basically self tap in there.

Hope this helps and gives you some ideas.

[ttboost]

I was lucky enough to find a complete shifter wth the metal bezel. What I noticed, unless I missed something, the bolt pattern (screw pattern actually) was different underneath. As in you cannot use he RS6 shift console cover because the auto shifter trim won't bolt (screw) to it underneath?

13739

[kevin]

This is great! I was hoping some of you guys would post up some pictures of your shift boot solutions. I have CF trim.

Thanks!

[ttboost]

My shifter was out of a higher mileage car and it was a little scratched, so I covered it with that sticky CF tape. Not sure I like it, as the rest is still wood. I might try to get my original cover to fit.

[kevin]

This is exactly what I plan on doing as soon as I can! Kevin, do you have a ballpark estimate on cost when it's all said and done? Are you going to do the work or bring it to a shop?

Parts and misc items $6k
I'll be doing the work in my shop.

[ttboost]

Parts and misc items $6k
I'll be doing the work in my shop.

+1..
That's about right. I did mine myself too, but if you plan to have someone else do it...plan on spending another $3k-$6k on top of that...

[mrdave]

Parts and misc items $6k
I'll be doing the work in my shop.

That's actually much better than I thought. I plan on doing it myself also. Can't wait to see your progress!!

[kevin]

Finally had some time to work on my stuff!
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa293/vwmeister/IMG_5311_zpsb5395762.jpg (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/vwmeister/media/IMG_5311_zpsb5395762.jpg.html)
Going down.
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa293/vwmeister/IMG_5313_zps2fed2a21.jpg (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/vwmeister/media/IMG_5313_zps2fed2a21.jpg.html)
Clear!
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa293/vwmeister/IMG_5314_zps007bc58e.jpg (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/vwmeister/media/IMG_5314_zps007bc58e.jpg.html)
Now, time to separate, again...
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa293/vwmeister/IMG_5318_zpsf38753d2.jpg (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/vwmeister/media/IMG_5318_zpsf38753d2.jpg.html)
tucked inna corner.. waiting..
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa293/vwmeister/IMG_5320_zps06194ce5.jpg (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/vwmeister/media/IMG_5320_zps06194ce5.jpg.html)

[kevin]

ok, got enough removed to access the bell housing bolts.
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa293/vwmeister/IMG_5321_zps8a02c534.jpg (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/vwmeister/media/IMG_5321_zps8a02c534.jpg.html)
another angle
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa293/vwmeister/IMG_5323_zps673c12df.jpg (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/vwmeister/media/IMG_5323_zps673c12df.jpg.html)
starter gone to access TC bolts.
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa293/vwmeister/IMG_5325_zpsdb1c70fc.jpg (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/vwmeister/media/IMG_5325_zpsdb1c70fc.jpg.html)
the divorce is final..
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa293/vwmeister/IMG_5326_zpsb5b1b395.jpg (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/vwmeister/media/IMG_5326_zpsb5b1b395.jpg.html)
comparison shot between the TIP and 01Ehttp://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa293/vwmeister/IMG_5330_zps1cf643ed.jpg (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/vwmeister/media/IMG_5330_zps1cf643ed.jpg.html)

[ttboost]

Looks like about 150lbs...

[4everRS]

Awesome.

I don't think you'd need to remove the starter to get access to the bolts. It probably opened it up a lot though.

Looking forward to the updates Kevin

[hahnmgh63]

You don't have to remove the starter but you do have to remove the two starter bolts. Aww, I see SAI removed, excellent.

[SteveKen]

You don't have to remove the starter but you do have to remove the two starter bolts. Aww, I see SAI removed, excellent.

You need to remove the starter to remove the six bolts that mate the torque converter to the flex plate. Note how clean the 'divorce' was. No mess when you leave the TC on the trans input shaft.

[hahnmgh63]

You are correct Steve. I unbolted my TC afterward but it would have been easier to do it first and take it out with the tranny. It's been a while and I forgot about that.

[ttboost]

Absolutely need to remove starter to access TC bolts...which isn't an easy feat...but out of the car..much easier...

[4everRS]

Hold the phone.

I've taken out the tranny WITHOUT removing the starter. Are talking about the bolts that connect it to the flex plate? If so, and if I remember correctly, you can get at those bolts through an access hole from the bottom.

[ttboost]

Maybe it IS possible..I always had my motor out and sitting on a table..so never saw any other way...

[V8weight]

Hold the phone.

I've taken out the tranny WITHOUT removing the starter. Are talking about the bolts that connect it to the flex plate? If so, and if I remember correctly, you can get at those bolts through an access hole from the bottom.
You must have been out chasing butterflies when I removed your starter and torque converter bolts...... ;)

[4everRS]

You must have been out chasing butterflies when I removed your starter and torque converter bolts...... ;)
:)
are you kidding me? I do not remember seeing a starter laying around.

[V8weight]

:)
are you kidding me? I do not remember seeing a starter laying around.

Well ya, I put it back.....

[4everRS]

Well ya, I put it back.....
Well isn't this embarrassing.

My mistake.

[ttboost]

...and here I thought I was crazy...

[kevin]

Not too much new to report on today. Had customers cars to turn out.

In the meantime I twisted a couple snapon triple squares in two attempting to remove the drive plate bolts. All ten bolts are still firmly in place.

I fitted the adapter to the 01E. Looks fine however I'm making improvements in the provided hardware kit..

[MaxRS6]

^Put some heat to her Scotty...;0

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz195/MaxRS6/PIC_1608_zps0d1a097f.jpg

[ttboost]

In the meantime I twisted a couple snapon triple squares in two attempting to remove the drive plate bolts. All ten bolts are still firmly in place.

I fitted the adapter to the 01E. Looks fine however I'm making improvements in the provided hardware kit..

My bolts didn't give me any issues coming off...putting the new ones in turned out to be a challenge though... installing the pedals were fun too...

What "improvements" are you making to the kit?

[kevin]

I felt some of the bolts are not long enough. The top two for instance. Instructions indicate to use the originals, well, when taking the plate thickness into play there is only a .500 reach into the block.

I've taken photos and may point this out in detail later if there is interest.

[ttboost]

Is this Steve's kit? Is he aware of your thoughts? Maybe something he can improve on?

[kevin]

It is and I will let him know.

[ttboost]

Cool..thanks for documenting your build too...I tried but got lazy...

[SteveKen]

It is and I will let him know.

This is good information. It's easy enough for me to add more hardware to the kit.

[kevin]

teaser pic.. Haven't spent much time on it lately as I've been busy at work and wrenching on the wife's A8. Her trans went out... :(
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa293/vwmeister/IMG_5339_zps7abb2892.jpg (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/vwmeister/media/IMG_5339_zps7abb2892.jpg.html)

[ttboost]

Is that a South Bend?

[kevin]

Yes, Stg4+

[ttboost]

What do they "claim" it is good for?

[mbagge01]

My tranny currently went out but thankfully my extended warranty is covering a replacement remanufactured Audi tranny so I can not go the 6 speed change yet. Any chance Audi may have improved the remanufactured trannys like they did the torque converter.

[kevin]

Yep... A big holiday and a break in the day to day cust car repair zoo here... The engine/trans assy is ready to get pushed in. Right now, I'm digging into the pedal assembly conversion. I plan on ( I said plan) spending the rest of the weekend on this. I have a ton of photos and tips to add later. Stephen, I haven't forgotten you. I'll send you some nice pics of the rad/fan support just as soon as I get the car on the lift.

[ttboost]

Goodluck and have fun. I think the pedals were the hardest part of the whole job for me.

[kevin]

Pedal assembly swapped out and TIP shifter delete in 2 hrs flat. Beer time.

[ttboost]

Pretty good time...actually took me 3 hours getting 2 pedals out, doing other stuff too...and about an hour or so, putting 3 pedals back. My problem was I couldn't fit under there too easily.

[kevin]

I can relate to that... Size does make a difference.

[ttboost]

Yeah...6'2" and 200lbs or so..with long arms that only bend one way...

How long til your up and running?

[kevin]

Old flex plate bolts die hard. http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa293/vwmeister/IMG_5340_zps7d3064ef.jpg (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/vwmeister/media/IMG_5340_zps7d3064ef.jpg.html) Wiggle room for starter install. Keep testing engagement until it sounds just right. http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa293/vwmeister/IMG_5345_zps11bc3c7b.jpg (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/vwmeister/media/IMG_5345_zps11bc3c7b.jpg.html) Detail of starter install. Adjusting lines, etc is needed. http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa293/vwmeister/IMG_5346_zps0b31c086.jpg (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/vwmeister/media/IMG_5346_zps0b31c086.jpg.html) Stock speed sensor, no go. http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa293/vwmeister/IMG_5348_zps7f376e4e.jpg (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/vwmeister/media/IMG_5348_zps7f376e4e.jpg.html) Clearance heat shield. http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa293/vwmeister/IMG_5361_zpsce39b0d2.jpg (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/vwmeister/media/IMG_5361_zpsce39b0d2.jpg.html) Relocated O2. http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa293/vwmeister/IMG_5363_zps36c74e78.jpg (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/vwmeister/media/IMG_5363_zps36c74e78.jpg.html) Correct speed sensor install. http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa293/vwmeister/IMG_5365_zpsb6a17b84.jpg (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/vwmeister/media/IMG_5365_zpsb6a17b84.jpg.html) Spent a little time on this over the 4th.http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa293/vwmeister/IMG_5371_zpsb32214f6.jpg (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/vwmeister/media/IMG_5371_zpsb32214f6.jpg.html)http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa293/vwmeister/IMG_5372_zpsc5982de8.jpg (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/vwmeister/media/IMG_5372_zpsc5982de8.jpg.html)

[alrightroad]

Looking good. How are you wiring up the reverse sensor on the pass side of trans?

[ttboost]

Shifter console looks nice, identical to mine. I ended up using the console out of my "donor" parts. Doesn't fit quite right and the ashtray doean't open correctly. It doesn't have that small halfmoon cutout on the part that fits under the ashtray, so it hangs up. I plan to put my stock one back in.

[ttboost]

My O2 sensor fits fine. Close to the shifter, but doesn't hit it...ziptied the wire out of the way.

[kevin]

Thanks, sat at the picnic table yesterday with my mini air powered saw and a die grinder and yes, I think it turned out great. Milltek downpipes must have the O2 bungs located differently. The left side O2 was interfering with the shifter movement. Speaking of shifting, did you have problems shifting into R prior to installing the engine/trans into your car? I can't seem to get mine into R no matter what I turn or spin. A talked to Scott about this and he claims this is normal since we don't have a way to depress the clutch thus allowing the input shaft to turn freely.

[ttboost]

Ok. I used stock DP flanges and just fabricated them...

Yes, reverse is a b*tch. Mine is OK and obviously driveable, but I still need to make 1 more adjustement. There is a fine line on getting 5th & 6th AND reverse smoothly...My 5th and 6th is mint, my reverse is a bit tight...There is a trick...and it will get you close the first time, but you might ened 1 or 3 small tweaks after...

[alrightroad]

I've read (B5 and C5 guys)... attach shifter out of car (sounds like you are already have done this), put into reverse (you can, it's just difficult, but you should able to after spinning the shaft a little), position the shifter box in an orientation close to how it will be in car (horizontal and as flat as possble), then tighten down all bolts beginning with passenger side anchor, double check orientation of shiftware box, then driver side anchor, then shifter/plunger bolt. Note this is not from experience but the path I will follow in a few weeks (too long to verify for you sounds like. You are making progress!).

I guess with a freshly rebuilt 01E maybe shifting into R off car is more difficult? The 2 01E's I have in my garage now shift into R with a little more effort than the other gears but it goes in... trans have 45K and 68K miles and are not rebuilds.

[ttboost]

I've read (B5 and C5 guys)... attach shifter out of car (sounds like you are already have done this), put into reverse (you can, it's just difficult, but you should able to after spinning the shaft a little), position the shifter box in an orientation close to how it will be in car (horizontal and as flat as possble), then tighten down all bolts beginning with passenger side anchor, double check orientation of shiftware box, then driver side anchor, then shifter/plunger bolt. Note this is not from experience but the path I will follow in a few weeks (too long to verify for you sounds like. You are making progress!).

I guess with a freshly rebuilt 01E maybe shifting into R off car is more difficult? The 2 01E's I have in my garage now shift into R with a little more effort than the other gears but it goes in... trans have 45K and 68K miles and are not rebuilds.


Very tough to do as the "shifter box" kinda "floats" on the shift rods. Until you get the drivetrain back into the chassis and the shifter into place, can you even start to adjust anything...even then, it might take a few tries...at least in my case as I had to unbolt everything to replace some parts. Once you take it apart..all bets are off...start from scratch...

[mik15]

for all of you who have done this conversion already, what is the total amount of money spent? and is everything working with no warning lights on the cluster? i am kind of thinking of doing it...

[kevin]

for all of you who have done this conversion already, what is the total amount of money spent? and is everything working with no warning lights on the cluster? i am kind of thinking of doing it...
I've got $6000 invested in parts. If I was doing this for a customer, labor costs would be about the same amount.

[Travis]

Kevin- any chance you would be willing to post a somewhat detailed list of parts needed for the conversion (including year range for donor parts)? Id like to start collecting the bits and peices as I come across them so im ready for the swap once I get into my new house

[kevin]

Travis- A list of parts needed are can be found at the start of this thread and in a few others in this forum.

[ttboost]

I was gonna say..there are about 10 threads that list all the parts necessary...just requires a search here...

[Travis]

I guess I should have been a bit more specific, the question was aimed more twards the "misc bits and peices" picture. I'll search more although ive read through about 4 previous threads and im having a hard time finding a true complete list as all seem to include "misc parts" . Seeing as this one is one of the better 01E swap threads we could make a true full parts list and get a sticky on this one?

[ttboost]

Everyone has a different way of doing it. Some people need more misc parts than others, depending on what they do. Best thing you can do (what the rest of us did) get all the major parts, and then start your project. You"ll find out what you need as you go. You may not plan on "upgrading" something, then change your mind midstream...you may break something and have to make a plan change midstream. This is a tough project to do if your RS6 is your daily driver. I am fairly handy, have a big garage with a lift and it took me a month. There really is no playbook for this mod. I'm sure everyone who has done it will tell you, plan on a few weeks, if everything goes perfect...
There is a reason people charge $5k-$10k labor to do this. And most of the time, it does NOT include the wiring part of it..which is another day or two, if you know what you are doing.

[Travis]

Everyone has a different way of doing it. Some people need more misc parts than others, depending on what they do. Best thing you can do (what the rest of us did) get all the major parts, and then start your project. You"ll find out what you need as you go. You may not plan on "upgrading" something, then change your mind midstream...you may break something and have to make a plan change midstream. This is a tough project to do if your RS6 is your daily driver. I am fairly handy, have a big garage with a lift and it took me a month. There really is no playbook for this mod. I'm sure everyone who has done it will tell you, plan on a few weeks, if everything goes perfect...
There is a reason people charge $5k-$10k labor to do this. And most of the time, it does NOT include the wiring part of it..which is another day or two, if you know what you are doing.

Well put, thank you. I know it will definatly be a lot more in depth than the classic muscle cars im used to building, hopefully I dont annoy the hell out of you guys to badly with my questions once i start digging in

[ttboost]

As an example, it wasn't until I got mine apart, that I decided to do turbos, wastegates, engine mounts, commit to deleting the SAI, etc...everything takes time...If you were so inclined, you would probably be better off buying one that is done.

[Carbonman]

I've got my black/black RS6 with the 6-sp swap completed except for some of the finishing wiring, etc. 101xxx miles, everything rebuilt and up to task, snuff. If someone is interested in completing the wiring/tune, I could be convinced to sell her for the right price. Advanced Automotion tranny with the .56 6th gear, Spec Stage 3+ clutch, SAI deleted, primary cats gutted, PSS9s, new Pilot Sport AS all around. All work/maintenance has been done by Imola Motorworks in Minneapolis. Needs reverse wired and a proper tune for the 6sp. Just not finding the time to work on the finishing touches. Not sure if I really want to sell, but maybe.....

[jibberjive]

I've got my black/black RS6 with the 6-sp swap completed except for some of the finishing wiring, etc. 101xxx miles, everything rebuilt and up to task, snuff. If someone is interested in completing the wiring/tune, I could be convinced to sell her for the right price. Advanced Automotion tranny with the .56 6th gear, Spec Stage 3+ clutch, SAI deleted, primary cats gutted, PSS9s, new Pilot Sport AS all around. All work/maintenance has been done by Imola Motorworks in Minneapolis. Needs reverse wired and a proper tune for the 6sp. Just not finding the time to work on the finishing touches. Not sure if I really want to sell, but maybe.....
PM me with what you're looking to get for it.

[kevin]

I started her up this afternoon. Ran it through the gears. All good to go! Time to button up and hit the road. Then begin the software part of the conversion. Sounded great with just the downpipes.

[kevin]

First impressions after about 100 miles. Beast x2! Not sure how much whp I gained but it seems measurable via butt dyno. Clutch shatter at first was moderate, but seems to be fading away. It's either bedding in or I'm getting more accustom to driving this thing with a 6speed. Maybe both. Rpm's in 6th @ 65mph is around 1850. I like that! Bumped up against the rev limiter a few time at first. I need to train myself the keep an eye on the tach. Sorting out the ABS/Trac control now.

[ttboost]

Nice!!! Congrats. I picked up about 50whp with the conversion and fully gutted DP's. You do the math.

[kevin]

Nice!!! Congrats. I picked up about 50whp with the conversion and fully gutted DP's. You do the math. My math is fuzzy, but I have Milltek catless DP's so I might add another 5 to 10 hp to your claimed whp gain. I need to visit the guys at Chicago Performance and Tuning to get legit numbers.

[ttboost]

Mine are true chassis dyno numbers on the same dyno..and my exhaust is fully catless also. Can't imagine that Miltek will add THAT much more...free flowing is free flowing I would think....no doubt it sounds better...interested to see..

[SteveKen]

I did dyno runs before and after the conversion.

Before:

http://www.kendrish.com/galleries/RS6/misc/rs6_auto_trans_dyno.JPG

After:

http://www.kendrish.com/galleries/RS6/misc/rs6_manual_trans_dyno.JPG

Approximately a 12% gain

[lswing]

Nice charts, thanks! I'm going to assume there is no tune by the numbers, and running rich. Interesting to see the AFR at 10.3, I settled on a "perfect" 12.5 last time, but seemed a bit hot, so might shoot for 12 next time around.

[4everRS]

Nice charts, thanks! I'm going to assume there is no tune by the numbers, and running rich. Interesting to see the AFR at 10.3, I settled on a "perfect" 12.5 last time, but seemed a bit hot, so might shoot for 12 next time around.
From what I have heard from Rich at Viper, he think turbo cars run best in the 11's

[SteveKen]

Nice charts, thanks! I'm going to assume there is no tune by the numbers, and running rich. Interesting to see the AFR at 10.3, I settled on a "perfect" 12.5 last time, but seemed a bit hot, so might shoot for 12 next time around.

Only pay attention to the horsepower an torque numbers. No other data was collected during the runs.

Stock tune, too and leaking intercoolers are pretty much the default.

[lswing]

Aha, I was thinking that was darn rich.

Interesting, most what I've heard and read is 12.5 is a sweet spot for power and safety on a turbo car, ours of course could be a bit different. I'm guessing Viper likes 11 due to the fact that it runs cooler, safer, and probably minimal power loss compared to 12.5...

[kevin]

500 mile inspection completed post TIP. Everything looks good. Clutch is broken in, chatter is virtually gone. Looking for a S6 ABS module. Still running EC tune. Love it!!! Going to Madfurther in St Paul next month and have my eyes on BIR later on this fall.

[Korben007]

Very nice. I'm not far behind you with my venture although I will be putting engine in an S6 Avant at the same time. Can't wait for more photos. Curious on the speed sensor pictures. Looks like the crank position sensor? Which sensor you end up using?

[4everRS]

Awesome Kevin! I would love to see this beast when your up here.

Which event at BIR are you looking to do?

[ttboost]

Very nice. I'm not far behind you with my venture although I will be putting engine in an S6 Avant at the same time. Can't wait for more photos. Curious on the speed sensor pictures. Looks like the crank position sensor? Which sensor you end up using?

NOT the RS6 sensor...

[kevin]

Very nice. I'm not far behind you with my venture although I will be putting engine in an S6 Avant at the same time. Can't wait for more photos. Curious on the speed sensor pictures. Looks like the crank position sensor? Which sensor you end up using? I used a crank ref sensor for a B5 S4 and spacer 078-906-435

[V8weight]

500 mile inspection completed post TIP. Everything looks good. Clutch is broken in, chatter is virtually gone. Looking for a S6 ABS module. Still running EC tune. Love it!!! Going to Madfurther in St Paul next month and have my eyes on BIR later on this fall.

What is madfurther? Never heard of it... Look me up when your in town if you'd like... You could even run a baseline against the E55 ;)

[kevin]

http://madfurther.com/

[V8weight]

Woah! Beer, WWII planes, cars, beer, 2 miles from my house, beer.... I'm there... I think I'll register the Mercedes and the el camino.

[4everRS]

That looks great. If only they had beer! ......

I just may be registering as well.

[ttboost]

What is madfurther? Never heard of it... Look me up when your in town if you'd like... You could even run a baseline against the E55 ;)

Nice Pat. How you diggin the AMG. I just grabbed one too...

[V8weight]

Nice Pat. How you diggin the AMG. I just grabbed one too...
It's fast, faster than the RS6 was...but I still think the RS6 was an all around better rounded car. Not sure how long I'll hold onto it, I'm all over the place on cars right now. The AMG is oh my god fast, I just don't trust it in the corners like i do my Audi's.

[ttboost]

It's fast, faster than the RS6 was...but I still think the RS6 was an all around better rounded car. Not sure how long I'll hold onto it, I'm all over the place on cars right now. The AMG is oh my god fast, I just don't trust it in the corners like i do my Audi's.

Yeah..the AWD has a little to do with that...

[alrightroad]

Excellent, Kev.