Phoenix20
February 26th, 2013, 17:43
Greetings all,
As the title of this thread states: I am a potential new RS6 owner but have some (specific) questions I could not otherwise find any (sufficient and / or precise) answer(s) to. I've previously owned a Stage 3 AWE RSK04 B5 S4 that made over 375awhp on pump gas and owned a 400rwhp (turbocharged) E36 M3 so I'm not a stranger to speed or high maintenance cars.
The RS6s I am looking at are all / mostly within the 70,000 to 86,000 mile "area", as it were. My main concerns with purchasing an RS6 with said amount of miles are:
- I would be purchasing a car with almost 90,000 miles on it for very near $20,000.00 (I will negotiate as well as I can). After 6 months the car would certainly have over 100,000 miles on it as I don't purchase cars and do the "weekend car" thing; I drive any car I purchase. My worry with mileage is years from now (or even after it would tick over 100,000 miles no one would want it regardless of price purely because it would seem historic in it's mileage compared to purchasing a B7 A4 for around $18,000.00 with less than 50,000 miles on it. Would an enthusiast be interested in a well maintained and possibly modified RS6 with over 100,000 miles on the odometer?
- I've read up on the problems with C5 RS6s and my main concern(s) lay in the transmission problem(s) with the cars as there does not seem to be any real specific point of mileage where at the transmission is known to fail and failures (seem) to occur in both modified and non modified (completely factory) C5 RS6s (although more so / most occurrences of failure appear to be modified examples with "aggressive driving" causing the failure of the transmission). Is the main cause the torque converter and if one were to keep a C5 RS6 stock or non chipped but modified (Exhaust only) and drove the car reasonably like not racing it would the transmission on a C5 RS6 last another 5,000 miles until someone were able to replace the transmission altogether prior to failure? Which transmission is best to go with as a replacement as I've seen a bunch of different builder brands on here?
- How much, typically, is labor on engine removal, removal of turbos, installation of new turbos and reinstallation of the engine with new turbos? Where is the best place to purchase new OEM Borg Warner turbos? JHMS new RS6 turbos for the B5 S4 platform are less than $3,000.00 but are made to suit the 2.7t engine with no modifications so they would not fit in a C5 RS6, unfortunately.
- I plan on purchasing a Fidelity warranty (perhaps the best "modification for a C5 RS6 in existence). At what mileage does Fidelity / Audi still offer any extended warranty as I spoke with an Audi salesman regarding a Fidelity warranty and he explained the only two warrants available through Fidelity would be a 24 month and a 30 month as the warrants are allowed as an "exception" due to low (enough) mileage (less than 90,000 miles). What I'm asking is (If anyone knows the answer to this question): How long after purchasing the vehicle (in terms of mileage) will I have to call or approach an Audi dealer and purchase an extended warranty through Fidelity as I will not have the money at the said time of purchasing the vehicle to purchase an extended Fidelity warranty on the vehicle, register it, pay all the fees and etc....? I plan on doing the water pump, timing belt and spark plugs immediately after purchase (or as close to as possible) and have my mechanic look it over thuroughly. I really want the warranty for if and when the turbos "let go" and for when the transmission and / or torque converter go. For anyone with a Fidelity extended warranty: Do you know if Fidelity would / does cover the cost of replacing the turbos if they fail? Do you know if Fidelity covers any transmission failure (The vehicle would be remaining stock until all the suspected parts are replaced)? How "picky" is Fidelity with where you take your car for any repairs as I am pretty loyal to a mechanic in my area who has worked on / built everything from Factory Five replicas to a Salt Flat 200+ mph Mustang Cobra SVT making over 1200 horsepower?
- The turbos would have the same mileage as the car (unless otherwise noted as being replaced by the seller prior to selling) and I would be wondering how many miles until they need replaced. When do the stock RS6 K04s "let go" if the car is completely factory Iam purchasing and from a visual perspective is insanely clean (well maintained, i.e not abused on a daily basis) for the lack of any better terminology?
I will speak more in depth with a Fidelity representative regarding details of which warranty I would purchase but would REALLY appreciate any "real world" feedback you guys could share with me.
Thanks for your time in reading this thread and I hope to hear some informative feedback from you guys.
As the title of this thread states: I am a potential new RS6 owner but have some (specific) questions I could not otherwise find any (sufficient and / or precise) answer(s) to. I've previously owned a Stage 3 AWE RSK04 B5 S4 that made over 375awhp on pump gas and owned a 400rwhp (turbocharged) E36 M3 so I'm not a stranger to speed or high maintenance cars.
The RS6s I am looking at are all / mostly within the 70,000 to 86,000 mile "area", as it were. My main concerns with purchasing an RS6 with said amount of miles are:
- I would be purchasing a car with almost 90,000 miles on it for very near $20,000.00 (I will negotiate as well as I can). After 6 months the car would certainly have over 100,000 miles on it as I don't purchase cars and do the "weekend car" thing; I drive any car I purchase. My worry with mileage is years from now (or even after it would tick over 100,000 miles no one would want it regardless of price purely because it would seem historic in it's mileage compared to purchasing a B7 A4 for around $18,000.00 with less than 50,000 miles on it. Would an enthusiast be interested in a well maintained and possibly modified RS6 with over 100,000 miles on the odometer?
- I've read up on the problems with C5 RS6s and my main concern(s) lay in the transmission problem(s) with the cars as there does not seem to be any real specific point of mileage where at the transmission is known to fail and failures (seem) to occur in both modified and non modified (completely factory) C5 RS6s (although more so / most occurrences of failure appear to be modified examples with "aggressive driving" causing the failure of the transmission). Is the main cause the torque converter and if one were to keep a C5 RS6 stock or non chipped but modified (Exhaust only) and drove the car reasonably like not racing it would the transmission on a C5 RS6 last another 5,000 miles until someone were able to replace the transmission altogether prior to failure? Which transmission is best to go with as a replacement as I've seen a bunch of different builder brands on here?
- How much, typically, is labor on engine removal, removal of turbos, installation of new turbos and reinstallation of the engine with new turbos? Where is the best place to purchase new OEM Borg Warner turbos? JHMS new RS6 turbos for the B5 S4 platform are less than $3,000.00 but are made to suit the 2.7t engine with no modifications so they would not fit in a C5 RS6, unfortunately.
- I plan on purchasing a Fidelity warranty (perhaps the best "modification for a C5 RS6 in existence). At what mileage does Fidelity / Audi still offer any extended warranty as I spoke with an Audi salesman regarding a Fidelity warranty and he explained the only two warrants available through Fidelity would be a 24 month and a 30 month as the warrants are allowed as an "exception" due to low (enough) mileage (less than 90,000 miles). What I'm asking is (If anyone knows the answer to this question): How long after purchasing the vehicle (in terms of mileage) will I have to call or approach an Audi dealer and purchase an extended warranty through Fidelity as I will not have the money at the said time of purchasing the vehicle to purchase an extended Fidelity warranty on the vehicle, register it, pay all the fees and etc....? I plan on doing the water pump, timing belt and spark plugs immediately after purchase (or as close to as possible) and have my mechanic look it over thuroughly. I really want the warranty for if and when the turbos "let go" and for when the transmission and / or torque converter go. For anyone with a Fidelity extended warranty: Do you know if Fidelity would / does cover the cost of replacing the turbos if they fail? Do you know if Fidelity covers any transmission failure (The vehicle would be remaining stock until all the suspected parts are replaced)? How "picky" is Fidelity with where you take your car for any repairs as I am pretty loyal to a mechanic in my area who has worked on / built everything from Factory Five replicas to a Salt Flat 200+ mph Mustang Cobra SVT making over 1200 horsepower?
- The turbos would have the same mileage as the car (unless otherwise noted as being replaced by the seller prior to selling) and I would be wondering how many miles until they need replaced. When do the stock RS6 K04s "let go" if the car is completely factory Iam purchasing and from a visual perspective is insanely clean (well maintained, i.e not abused on a daily basis) for the lack of any better terminology?
I will speak more in depth with a Fidelity representative regarding details of which warranty I would purchase but would REALLY appreciate any "real world" feedback you guys could share with me.
Thanks for your time in reading this thread and I hope to hear some informative feedback from you guys.