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kilian tuning
January 4th, 2013, 10:33
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http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee469/mavada1/S6MosThur6.jpgThe RS 6's four-wheel drive gives it a healthy advantage at every start. We tested the acceleration of all the cars to 60 mph. The other rear-wheel-drive cars got there in about four seconds, but the RS 6 was in another league—the best time achieved by hired shoe Michael Galati was a stunning 2.7 seconds. As a result, during races the RS 6 usually leads the first lap. But the Audi guys are quick to point out that that advantage also comes with a major Achilles' heel: poor weight distribution. To make room for the four-wheel-drive components, the RS 6's twin-turbocharged engine must sit far forward, so the car has a greater percent of weight in the front than the other cars, which hurts braking and cornering performance.
Audi has created something of a legacy in World Challenge, winning the 2001 and 2002 drivers' championships with Galati driving an S4 and the 2003 drivers' title with Randy Pobst in the RS 6. It's an impressive record considering the series tries to make sure one car doesn't dominate. So the paddock is filled with speculation: Are the competition adjustments skewed to favor the Audi? That, of course, depends on whom you ask. We don't think there's any favoritism, but there isn't a clear answer and the record does make one wonder.
The RS 6s were built by Champion Racing, a race shop and car dealership in Pompano Beach, Florida. Although Champion would sell an RS 6 to another competitor, so far, no one's asked, and the two Audi-sponsored cars are the only ones in the series. Each costs about $210,000, much of it the result of preparing the car's unit body. To make the body stiffer, the areas where two metal panels meet are carefully seam-welded. The engines are built by Cosworth and make 525 horsepower, just 75 more than you'll find in a standard RS 6. Champion's RS 6s use larger intercoolers and radiators, but the turbos are stock, as are most of the engine internals.
The RS 6 found at Audi dealerships has an automatic transmission, so the race version has to make do with the six-speed manual from the Audi S4 (http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/2010-audi-s4-vs-2009-bmw-335i-comparison-tests). Even though that transmission was not designed to handle 525 horsepower, it has been surprisingly reliable. The same can't be said of the ball joints, which wither under cornering forces and must be replaced every weekend—at $1000 a pop. That's a pitfall of racing based on production cars: Parts are used that were not meant to handle high levels of stress.
The carbon-fiber body has fender flares that jut out 1.5 inches beyond the stock fenders at every corner, to make room for wider tires. Those flares increase aero drag, so the team has tried to compensate by experimenting with different front fascia designs. "What you see today is revision No. 45," laments crew chief Louis Milone. There's not much a front fascia can do to change the fact that the RS 6 punches a huge hole in the air.
And it felt big and burly on the track. Whereas the rear-drive cars required precise driving and careful throttle inputs, the RS 6 felt a little more relaxed and compliant. The steering, the brakes, and the clutch all had a light feel, and with the traction of four-wheel drive, we could just stand on the gas and rocket out of corners.
If we punched the gas too early in the corners and before the car had straightened out, the rush of power would cause the car to dramatically move off the intended line. We've never been in a car that slid so easily into perfect four-wheel drifts. Rather than carve through a curve, the RS 6 preferred a more aggressive approach. It was more like throwing it into a drift and jumping on the gas as soon as it straightened. "Fun" doesn't begin to describe how it felt.
But sliding will eat up lap times, so Galati had to resist the car's natural tendency and keep it more locked to the pavement. We'd be happy to struggle with the assignment.

lswing
January 4th, 2013, 15:43
Very cool, thanks! Interesting how much emphasis is on cooling, not jacking up the power. Cooling and good/fresh fluids are my primary focus these days.

Speaking of which, you can check trans fluid temp with vagcom right, its part of the fill process? After spirited driving, what would be a high temp? What temp do you stay away from for trans fluid?

MaxRS6
January 4th, 2013, 15:57
Good memories and pictures. I recently received the below from a friend..

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DHall1
January 4th, 2013, 17:37
lswing

I got the file loaded and will try to play with it tonight. Thank you for the help.

I think there is a point where clutch pack material does fall apart. I tow big loads with my diesel dually and watching the trans temps is almost as important as watching egts. I have aux trans coolers and elec fans on each trans cooler for this very reason. Tozo may know the actual temp but I think the deadly range is 230 degrees. I will need to check my gauges on the truck to be sure.


Very cool, thanks! Interesting how much emphasis is on cooling, not jacking up the power. Cooling and good/fresh fluids are my primary focus these days.

Speaking of which, you can check trans fluid temp with vagcom right, its part of the fill process? After spirited driving, what would be a high temp? What temp do you stay away from for trans fluid?

mik15
January 4th, 2013, 20:19
very nice pictures and interesting article, thanks a lot Kilian! really interesting that they were using stock turbos and stock engine internals, that really says a lot about the strength on these parts . :rs6kiss:
regarding the trans-fluid, i was also curious what's your regular temperature, i opened a thread a while ago but there was no interest...i did a few logs in the summer and with an outside temperature of 120-130F, keeping the car for a few good miles at cca 130mph, the maximum temperature didn't exceed 200F. As far as i know at 250F the gearbox will go into limp-mode! Under normal driving conditions, the average temperature is about 180F, which is the same as the VW Phaeton i drive as dd, so i guess it's a good value!

It would be interesting to have some data from the ones doing tracking events, to know under those conditions how far does the gearbox oil temperature is rising...

905084
January 4th, 2013, 23:21
Thanks for the post! Great pics.

bmlee007
January 5th, 2013, 02:50
Those are some great pics. As an aside, has anyone ever tried to contact Champion about re-creating those sweet vented hoods?

Jimmy Joe
January 5th, 2013, 04:37
Thank you very much for sharing those great pictures- I have never had the chance to se a REAL racing ES6. the build is very impressive and the cars are rally beautiful. I bet AoA went all out in the making of this cars when they were introduced back in 2002-2003 to steamroll the competition as they have done in Le Mans recently. very nice addition to the forum pictures.

kilian tuning
January 5th, 2013, 09:20
...some morehttp://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee469/mavada1/03SebRS6race_01.jpghttp://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee469/mavada1/S6MosMisc06.jpg

kilian tuning
January 5th, 2013, 12:14
love it...
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http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee469/mavada1/231_15.jpgSome specs...The RS 6 "Competition" was developed to meet Speedvision World Speed Challenge GT rules for the 2004 season. The 2004 version of the Certified Audi RS 6 will be significantly different in appearance from the 2003 and performance has undergone a major renovation in order to stay competitive with new factory entries. One of the major changes to the Audi is with the addition of the 305 sized Toyo RA-1 tires. While increasing the width of the tire is beneficial to Audi's all-wheel drive system, it does come at a cost. The 2004 RS 6 will continue to be powered by a 4.2 liter, V8, bi-turbo engine but the boost will be reduced in comparison to last year.

Specifications

Body: RS 6 sedan body shell with Audi Space Frame technology, standard RS 6 aluminum fenders and front hood, Lexan anti-fog front and rear windscreens, full roll cage with Audi Sport side protection, AP racing on board air jacking system, Champion Racing carbon fiber front splitter and air dam system

Interior: Motec Data Acquisition system with 40 logging channels, Recaro FIA standard drivers seat and full harness, carbon fiber door panels and trim, integrated fire protection system

Engine and Drive Train: RS 6 Bi-Turbo engine developed by Cosworth Technology (CTI) larger, more efficient intercoolers

Engine Management: Pectel T10S

Engine lubrication: Castrol RS

Displacement: 4172 cc

Output: 525 hp

Torque: 376.15 lb/ft (510 Nm)

Power transmission: quattro® transaxle, with 40:60 torque split front to rear

Clutch: Tilton 3-plate clutch, single mass fly wheel

Gearbox: Longitudinal 6-speed Audi transaxle gearbox

Steering: Rack-and-pinion power steering

Brakes & suspension: Ohlin 5 way adjustable shock absorbers, Eibach competition coil springs, RS 6 standard braking system with full floating cast iron rotors, adjustable modified suspension arms with rod end and uniball joints, adjustable front and rear anti roll bars

Rims: Champion Motorsports 18"X9.5" forged alloy wheels

Tires: Toyo Proxes RA-1 with dimension 305/35/18

Length: 191.26" (4858 mm)

Width: 72.83" (1850 mm)

Height: 56.10" (1425 mm)

Minimum weight: 3100 lb (1406 kg)

Tank capacity: 100 liters