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chewym
May 10th, 2012, 00:09
Here are some numbers on the new S6:

0-60: 3.7 seconds
0-100: 9.2
0-130: 16.1

1/4 mile: 12.1 @ 115

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2013-audi-s6-test-review

The M5 is quicker but not by a huge margin like the last gen S6 vs. last gen M5

Zero to 60 mph: 3.7 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 8.3 sec
¼-mile: 12.0 sec @ 122 mph

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2013-bmw-m5-road-test-review

AndyBG
May 10th, 2012, 00:42
Still comparing S6 with M5...
Waiting for RS 6...!

Aronis
May 10th, 2012, 02:32
Wow, those numbers are great. Audi's own web site (UK site) shows spec on new S6 at 0-60 in 4.8 sec. which was a big disappointment for me to see....but those number above, very nice.... can't wait to see one in person.

Mike

kismetcapitan
May 10th, 2012, 03:39
RS has always been in a different league than the M-series. More expensive, more powerful.

That 0-100mph for the M5 is extremely impressive though. 0-60mph has gotten kind of meaningless as cars have gotten a lot more powerful. 8 seconds is the magic number for the 0-100mph sprint; once you're under that, that's supercar territory, although the bar keeps getting higher. Remember when the Ferrari Testarossa, making 380bhp and doing 0-60 in 5 seconds, was just blindingly fast?

The RS6 has always been Audi's most powerful car; I'd be disappointed if the next generation RS6 didn't crack 650bhp; the C6 was pretty close to it at 570-ish. One can dream of Audi putting it out on the showroom floor at 700bhp, but I'm sure an ECU flash will get it well past there in any event.

mik15
May 10th, 2012, 07:20
those are really good numbers and given the fact that is a TT i am sure the power can be easily increased just as with the RS6 to get to 500hp, the 0-60 looks like very very good considering the output, i think the new GB has a lot to say about it as the weight it's just the same as our RS6's, i would say it's quite impressive, so jumping from an RS6 C5 to this new S6 doesn't seem bad at all when it comes to power, it does make me think about it....let's see what the new RS6 will bring, even if it's not going to be 650hp, as kismetcapitan would like to :), i think it will definitely be lighter due to the new engine and this will improve the handling, of course it has to be at least in the range of the 600hp band to be able to keep up with the M5...it's going to be interesting :)

....and i like how the engine it's been pushed towards the cockpit, behind the front axle, this will also have to improve the handling...

kismetcapitan
May 10th, 2012, 09:19
it *has* to be in the 600bhp range; how many of these cars have ever gone DOWN in power with each new generation? The RS6 went from 450 to 571bhp; the M5 went from 400 to 507 to 560bhp. Considering that the RS has always been at least 50 more bhp, my money is on something like 620bhp, although 150+bhp/liter is a bit of an ask for a production engine.

Erik
May 10th, 2012, 10:44
Very surprising results for the S6, didn't expect that much!

God bless Turbos!

mik15
May 10th, 2012, 11:12
you are right kismetcapitan, but then again the C6 gain some extra weight due to the bigger V10 resulting in a heavier nose than the C5, but with this new architecture of the engine being pushed towards the cockpit they might solve the issue and come closer to a 50/50 balance of the weight, though i think the era of big engines is gone, so this new 4.0TT will be the future for a few years at least, then who knows....zum, zum...electric, i hope i won't be around for the electric engine on an RS6 or M...

RXBG
May 10th, 2012, 13:19
weight loss is the new hp figure. that was an awfully fast result for an S6. those are official figures for an R8 V10. (then again C&D got 3.3 secs for an R8 V10). the rS^ doesn;t have to have over 600 hp if it weighs as much as an S6 but makes 560 hp (140 hp more). such a car could produce 0-60 numbers in the 3.3 sec range.

alrightroad
May 10th, 2012, 14:07
weight loss is the new hp figure. that was an awfully fast result for an S6. those are official figures for an R8 V10. (then again C&D got 3.3 secs for an R8 V10). the rS^ doesn;t have to have over 600 hp if it weighs as much as an S6 but makes 560 hp (140 hp more). such a car could produce 0-60 numbers in the 3.3 sec range.

Agree. Weight loss is new hp variable. I wish the US citizen would make this shift. I was at a zoo recently with my oldest son and couldn't believe the amount of 4,000+ lbs people. Sheer astonishment. What is our country moving toward?! Ha ha, this is OT obviously. Back to original topic>>> Weight loss in new generation automobiles is key these days. Agree 100%.

Bigglezworth
May 10th, 2012, 14:19
weight loss is the new hp figure. that was an awfully fast result for an S6. those are official figures for an R8 V10. (then again C&D got 3.3 secs for an R8 V10). the rS^ doesn;t have to have over 600 hp if it weighs as much as an S6 but makes 560 hp (140 hp more). such a car could produce 0-60 numbers in the 3.3 sec range.Power to weight ratio has always been the true measurement for performance cars. The RS6 is a pig and that's being nice. It is a sedan though so the weight is appropriate. My little NSX is an all aluminum car that in stock form weighs under 3000lbs soaking wet. Take the piddly little 3.0-3.2L engine in it and add a forced induction system and you start pushing 5-6lbs/hp vs. the RS6's 8-9.5. Physics doesn't lie. :hahahehe:

kismetcapitan
May 10th, 2012, 18:51
no doubt that a 3500lb RS6 with 500-odd bhp would be a true killer. but when it comes to marketing, the RS6 could be slaughtered in the US market if it costs $15K more than an M5 and makes less power, even if the performance figures are mind-bending. sad but true...

4everRS
May 10th, 2012, 20:05
Very sad but true. I have a lot of doubt that it will be over 600 hp. I hope it's near that number. They need to save weight to beat BMW at this. The new M5 is pretty impressive, but it's really heavy. The s6 is over 4100 lbs. I highly doubt the rs6 will be 3500. However, if they can get it close to 3700-3800 it would be very good.

4everRS
May 10th, 2012, 20:22
....and i like how the engine it's been pushed towards the cockpit, behind the front axle, this will also have to improve the handling...
ummm where did you read this?

artur777
May 11th, 2012, 02:09
very quick 0-60 figures for S6
how did they achieve it?

RXBG
May 11th, 2012, 02:14
the only thing audi needs to do is keep the weight at S6 weight (4200 lbs). yes, it'll be heavy but not any more so than F10 M5. if the RS6 makes 560 hp it will have 140 more hp!!!!. sure, it'll prob lose the DSG (unfortunately) and this will keep it from achieving the same accel to gearshift ratio that the S6 has and so it won't have a proprtionately faster 0-60 time but it'll still be faster than the M5. we'll have to see re: weight. it shouldn't be too difficult since the engine will be essentially the same except perhaps the turbo having some slight changes vs S6 (similar to mild changes betweeen the panamera turbo ands turbo S- titanium turbine wheels-).

chewym
May 11th, 2012, 03:42
the only thing audi needs to do is keep the weight at S6 weight (4200 lbs). yes, it'll be heavy but not any more so than F10 M5. if the RS6 makes 560 hp it will have 140 more hp!!!!. sure, it'll prob lose the DSG (unfortunately) and this will keep it from achieving the same accel to gearshift ratio that the S6 has and so it won't have a proprtionately faster 0-60 time but it'll still be faster than the M5. we'll have to see re: weight. it shouldn't be too difficult since the engine will be essentially the same except perhaps the turbo having some slight changes vs S6 (similar to mild changes betweeen the panamera turbo ands turbo S- titanium turbine wheels-).

Apparently there is actually quite a big difference between the 420 hp and the 520 horsepower versions of the new V8 which means that the S8 and RS6 have room for even more performance.

Joker
May 11th, 2012, 10:54
How on earth did Audi or should I say Car & Driver get a 2 ton 420hp saloon to produce a set of figures like that? I now want to see just how quick the S8 will be because if the S6 is anything to go by it's big brother will be approaching supercar standards of acceleration.

Can't wait to see what Audi have done with the RS6.

Audi joke;
Knock, knock
Who's there?
M5
M5 who?

Exactly. ha ha.

Benman
May 11th, 2012, 17:45
Very surprising results for the S6, didn't expect that much!

God bless Turbos! Ditto! I mean, the 0-60 and 1/4 times are more what one would expect from the GT-R! Wow! And this is "just" the S6! The new trannies (and of course quattro) are SO crucial for achieving times like that!

AndyBG
May 11th, 2012, 19:41
Does this mean that 550i xDrive can go home!? :)

When someone is actually get to drive this new S6...?

Aronis
May 11th, 2012, 19:50
the only thing audi needs to do is keep the weight at S6 weight (4200 lbs). yes, it'll be heavy but not any more so than F10 M5. if the RS6 makes 560 hp it will have 140 more hp!!!!. sure, it'll prob lose the DSG (unfortunately) and this will keep it from achieving the same accel to gearshift ratio that the S6 has and so it won't have a proprtionately faster 0-60 time but it'll still be faster than the M5. we'll have to see re: weight. it shouldn't be too difficult since the engine will be essentially the same except perhaps the turbo having some slight changes vs S6 (similar to mild changes betweeen the panamera turbo ands turbo S- titanium turbine wheels-).

Why do you think it would loose the DSG for use in the RS6?

LIRS6
May 11th, 2012, 21:04
I have no faith in those numbers .. in particular 3.7

Aronis
May 11th, 2012, 21:41
and will the launch control be offered for the North American market????

3.7 is interesting, but I'll settle for the same numbers as my current car...

Mike

artur777
May 12th, 2012, 00:47
I dont believe in 3.7 secs
my real life predictions are 4.2-4.3 secs that is also very very quick for this car

andreadebi
May 12th, 2012, 11:39
Does this mean that 550i xDrive can go home!? :)

When someone is actually get to drive this new S6...?

new updated engine from bmw, 450hp, debut on the 6 GranCoupé

http://autonewsworld.com/bmw-650i-gran-coupe-debut-of-new-v8-with-450-hp/

RXBG
May 12th, 2012, 14:50
2014 4 series debut in paris 350 hp i hear from tt V6. 2014 S4 will need hp bump too.

Joker
May 12th, 2012, 15:35
2014 4 series debut in paris 350 hp i hear from tt V6. 2014 S4 will need hp bump too.

I thought the whole switch to V6 was a load of BS because the M3 has been all but confirmed to be getting a revised version of their inline 6.

kip
May 18th, 2012, 13:33
Apparently there is actually quite a big difference between the 420 hp and the 520 horsepower versions of the new V8 which means that the S8 and RS6 have room for even more performance.

Looking at these figures, especially 0-100mph, it cant be under 500 bhp...
This performace sets a whole new standard in this class, it actually beats an CLS 55 and 63 AMG (not biturbo) to this speed...