Where do I buy Phaeton backing plates and ducts?

[4everRS]

Anyone know? I want to do the Phaeton duct mod and am having a tough time sourcing parts. Tried Genuine. They're not listed on the site. I sent Bill a message to ask if he can source them. Part numbers below.

1) 2x Phaeton backing plates (3do 615 311c & 3d0 615 312c)
2) 2x Phaeton air ducts (3d0 615 447d & 3d0 615 448d)
3) 4x brake bolts (100 650 02)
4) 8x securing bolts (908 429 03)

[hahnmgh63]

I bought mine from Unit 20 and they came with the backing plates already modified. You can Papal in British Pounds but in my case don't be in a hurry as they can be a little slow to shipped but the price was reasonable. www.impex.com (http://www.impex.com) does show some of the parts on their website as Special Order which also means waiting for shipping as I doubt anyone stateside stocks the parts as the U.S. Phaetons didn't have the bigger brakes & ducts.

[4everRS]

Thanks Mark! I sent Grizz an email.

[4.2Crew]

Anyone know? I want to do the Phaeton duct mod and am having a tough time sourcing parts. Tried Genuine. They're not listed on the site. I sent Bill a message to ask if he can source them. Part numbers below.

1) 2x Phaeton backing plates (3do 615 311c & 3d0 615 312c)
2) 2x Phaeton air ducts (3d0 615 447d & 3d0 615 448d)
3) 4x brake bolts (100 650 02)
4) 8x securing bolts (908 429 03)

Kyle,
Please post any informational updates from Unit 20!.... (Price avaialbility, etc.)

Thanks!!!!

[4everRS]

No problem Greg. I'll let you know.

[bmlee007]

A couple of days ago, I ordered a roll of carbon fiber intending to make some ducts for my car, and possibly to sell. Due to my work/travel schedule, it will probably be two months or so until I have something to test.

I had planned to make make something useable for me first, and then offer a couple here for free to get some real world testing and feedback before making more for sale. If you're willing to wait 2-3 months, you can have my first test set.

[4everRS]

Got quotes today from Unit 20 and from Bill at genuine.

Unit 20 is 160 pounds, which equals about 260 USD

Genuine is 196 USD.

Both are shipped quotes to MN.

What to do?

[ben916]

IIRC, Grizz has them already cut for you and drilled and painted. Not 100% if his are plug and play (meaning any grinding needed)

The genuine one's are build-it-yourself and cut-it-yourself.
The day I did mine, we also did Wade's (born2be) and the original template was off of my car but when the template transferred, there was adjustments on both sides for both cars.
This is due to the bottom portion of the upright slight differences and the hole alignment.
I also has a slight clearance issue on the left side headlight level arm - nothing I could do but not turn right to full steering lock...

[Brav]

For 60 bucks, I would tend to have them pre-cut..

[mdegracia]

Nice work! Ive been wanting to do this.

[4everRS]

I sent a message to Unit 20 to see if they'd do a group buy for rs6.com. I'll post what I hear.

[Stephencl]

This would be sweet....

Stephen

[MaxRS6]

Anyone know? I want to do the Phaeton duct mod ...

Hmmmm...Do I smell track adventures in the air?

[Brav]

In for group buy

[Chase]

In for group buy

Me tooooooo!

[ThrillHouse]

Paying attention to this...

[grizz]

Hi Guys ,

I'm more than happy to do a group buy for the kits'
If we can get 5 orders I'll do them at $230 delivered and $210 a set delivered to the US for 10 ..

Shipping will be with royal mail to keep cost's down.
They will all be pe cut with new fixing bolts ..

Grizz

[4everRS]

$210 is a great deal for these guys!

So Grizz, should we PM you we're interested and send money via PayPal?

On this thread we have:

4everRS confirmed
Thrill house. confirmed
Chase. Confirmed
Brav. confirmed
Stephencl Confirmed?
Mdgracia
4.2crew

Anyone else? Only need 3 more for the $210 price.

[Brav]

This is a great mod.. value. Increasing safety and probably longevity. The OEM rotors are flawed, if you look at them from the inside. There is a curling lip on the "hat" which prevents air from directly entering the vanes on the rings.. and this will greatly offset that!

Come on lets get 10!

[ThrillHouse]

Take that question mark off- I'm in!

[4everRS]

Got it fixed Greg.

Stephencl? You in?

4.2crew? Mdgracia?

If the above confirm, that means we only need 3 more.

This kit is already modified to fit our cars. Shipped. Hardware. And their from Grizz. My sig will will say "Unit 20 brake ducts"! :)

Come on others. Get the deal.

It's getting pretty late in the UK so Grizz probably won't let us know how to pay til tomorrow or Monday.

[4.2Crew]

I'm IN...

Thanks, Kyle!

[4everRS]

I'm IN...

Thanks, Kyle!

Great!

You going to cars and coffee tomorrow?

[Stephencl]

Great!

You going to cars and coffee tomorrow?

You didnt ask me, but I am still in on the brake cooling ducts.... in for sure.

[4everRS]

You didnt ask me, but I am still in on the brake cooling ducts.... in for sure.

Veddy good. (check post 21 :) )

[grizz]

Wow ,

Right ... please keep this going unit we get ten ..

Grizz

[Amar]

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[Elevens]

+1 what amar said. My catless Milltek downpipes and H&R Coilovers came from grizz with no issues. I would be in on the deal but I am getting the C6 BBK which comes with the duct kit. Good luck on the group buy...

[Stephencl]

Veddy good. (check post 21 :) )

I meant you didn't ask me to cars and cofee!!!!! I am still in for the cooling ducts. This is an awesome upgrade. Getting excited to have an rs6 again.

[4everRS]

I meant you didn't ask me to cars and cofee!!!!! I am still in for the cooling ducts. This is an awesome upgrade. Getting excited to have an rs6 again.

Oooh. Sorry. Figured it was a long drive for you. Hehe. It wasn't that great. Still lots of cars but is misted on us most the time and 50'F wasn't perfect.

[mdegracia]

Yup, count me in!

[4everRS]

Awesome guys. That makes 7 of us. Only 3 more to buy and we save another 20 bucks each!

[Chung]

Sure why not, I am in.

[kismetcapitan]

how many hours of labor does it usually take to install these? I need to know that before committing.

[Justin9212]

Count me in.

[4everRS]

how many hours of labor does it usually take to install these? I need to know that before committing.
Less than an hour labor for both sides. Grizz has these already to bolt on. The only thing you run into us if the existing bolts holding the plates are seized.

Ok people, we are at 9. One more. Kismetcaptian? Come on. Don't be a loser. (no peer pressure) :)

[Ghost-]

I am interested in this, but first I would like to know how is the shipping for this group buy? - Does someone get all the kits, gets payed by us and then sends the kits to us?
I live in Mexico, so I hope this wont cause any problems with the group buy.
Thanks

[4everRS]

Good question Ghost. I'll let Grizz answer regarding shipping to Mexico, but I'm doubting it will be a problem. Here is his quote for the deal.
Hi Guys ,

I'm more than happy to do a group buy for the kits'
If we can get 5 orders I'll do them at $230 delivered and $210 a set delivered to the US for 10 ..

Shipping will be with royal mail to keep cost's down.
They will all be pe cut with new fixing bolts ..

Grizz
And so far, here are the members confirmed:

4everRS
4.2crew
Thrill house
Chase
Brav
Stephencl
Mdgracia
Chung
Justin9212
Kismetcaptian?

Also, I don't know how Grizz wants to be paid. I would hope he'll accept payments from each of us as I would rather not deal with it all on my end. PayPal to Unit 20? Then ship to each of us too.

[hunter]

+2 Grizz and Unit 20 are good to work with. I just ordered my Phaeton duct kit from Grizz end of March and you guys are definitely getting a good price. Mine took exactly a week for shipping from the day Grizz said they went out to show up on my door in UTAH by Royal mail. Also he has all the hard parts done for you. If you can take your wheel and caliper off you can install this in no time. I made sure to have these on before I took my girl out to stretch her legs at Miller Motorsports Park here in UT and although I never went out with a stock set up to compare I can tell you that thru 8- 20 min sessions over the weekend with this mod , EBC Yellows, and RBF 600 I never had any issues with brake fade.

[hunter]

One thing you guys might want to ask Grizz is what wheel and tire sizes will work with this. I'm pretty sure 19s are no issue but wider than the OEM spec of 8.5 I would ask obout fittment. Since I'm tracking my girl I stay at 18-8.5

[kismetcapitan]

let me know about payment, I'm in!

[4everRS]

let me know about payment, I'm in!

Hooorrayyy. We have 10! Thanks for the input hunter. I found a pic of an installed kit.

http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab210/crocodile64/a8aa98a0.jpg

[fly5150]

im in
-Dave

[vr430]

I'm in. Just say when.

[Brav]

A valid concern brought up - will it work with those of us running 19x10s all around?

[Amulet-S6]

+++ Unit 20

I got my Phaeton ducts & backing plates pre-cut, Wagner IC's and Euro headlights from Grizz. All delivered as promised.

Jim

[MaxRS6]

+++ Unit 20

I got my Phaeton ducts & backing plates pre-cut, Wagner IC's and Euro headlights from Grizz. All delivered as promised.

Jim

^ I got mine from some guy named Jim. All delivered as promised...;0

[4everRS]

A valid concern brought up - will it work with those of us running 19x10s all around?

I really doubt it would be an issue. Reference the pic in post #42. The plate and duct moves with the steering. If anything, a small amount of the duct would require a small trim. I really don't think it would be an issue.

[kismetcapitan]

any special tools needed to install? looks like this could be easily DIY at home with some socket wrenches?

[kevin]

Want Please!!!

Thanks!

[4everRS]

any special tools needed to install? looks like this could be easily DIY at home with some socket wrenches?
Yep. Easy DIY. If you can take off a wheel you can do this. The caliper come off with 2 Allen bolts. Then the backing plate comes off using a torx socket bit. I think there are 4 of them.

[cgyrs6]

Me too please. My car hasn't arrived yet, but I want to be ready when it does in a couple of weeks.

[4everRS]

Up to 14 for this! Veddy nice. List so far:

4everRS
4.2crew
Thrill house
Chase
Brav
Stephencl
Mdgracia
Chung
Justin9212
Kismetcaptain
fly5150
vr430
cgyrs6(new guy)

Keep 'em coming guys.

[Justin9212]

Any more of a price break at say.. 20 people, or 30, ect.

[kevin]

4everRS
4.2crew
Thrill house
Chase
Brav
Stephencl
Mdgracia
Chung
Justin9212
Kismetcaptain
fly5150
vr430
cgyrs6(new
Kevin

[4everRS]

Oops. Sorry Kevin.

[alrightroad]

Gosh, I feel left out. I'm in. Who do I pay?

eric

[NSU RS6]

I will go in on this too.

Craig

[mik15]

i would be in too if Grizz could ship it straight to Abu Dhabi, if not would it be possible to know how much one kit weighs so i know how much would i pay from NY to Abu Dhabi?

[grizz]

i would be in too if Grizz could ship it straight to Abu Dhabi, if not would it be possible to know how much one kit weighs so i know how much would i pay from NY to Abu Dhabi?

Thats not a problem , i ship all over the world ..The shipping will be a little more ..
grizz

[terrytcl]

i'm in

who and where to pay?

[grizz]

Right guys ,

Please send payment to .
martin@unit20.org

Please add 3% to cover paypal fee's

Please add a full postal address and local phone number.
Once I've had the first 10 I'll send out .

Please send any questions to the above email address.

grizz

[kismetcapitan]

ok, so that's $216.30 paypal'ed. Sending payment!

[4everRS]

Payment sent. Thanks for the deal Martin!

[4.2Crew]

Payment sent...

Thanks for coordinating, Kyle!

Thanks for the deal, Grizz!

[Ghost-]

Thats not a problem , i ship all over the world ..The shipping will be a little more ..
grizz

Good to hear!
Count me in please!

[4everRS]

Good to hear!
Count me in please!

Great. Below is the payment instruction, quoted from Grizz.


Right guys ,

Please send payment to .
martin@unit20.org

Please add 3% to cover paypal fee's

Please add a full postal address and local phone number.
Once I've had the first 10 I'll send out .

Please send any questions to the above email address.

grizz

[Ghost-]

Great. Below is the payment instruction, quoted from Grizz.

Thank you, already saw them. I sent a mail to martin@unit20.org asking if I need to pay $216.30 or if the shipping to Mexico will increase or decrease O.o the price.
Will pay when I get an answer.

[Chung]

I use paypal so often I forgot about my $240 there. Woohoo, almost free brake ducts.

[Justin9212]

Payment Sent.

[gregoryindiana]

I am in.

Will send payment by Paypal.

$216.30 as per previous post.

[gregoryindiana]

I am in.

Will send payment by Paypal.

$216.30 as per previous post.

amend earlier post. will send money by paypal when I can get them to believe I am not defrauding myself. Might take the rest of the week since I am on the road for that time.

Meanwhile, count me as in while I get this organized.

[mik15]

Thats not a problem , i ship all over the world ..The shipping will be a little more ..
grizz

PM sent! Thanks!

[Chung]

amend earlier post. will send money by paypal when I can get them to believe I am not defrauding myself. Might take the rest of the week since I am on the road for that time.

Meanwhile, count me as in while I get this organized.

Paypal asked me to verify with my parents phone number. They had no problem with me adding a phone number to my account and then verifying with my just added number. Real secure...

[ThrillHouse]

Money sent

[wpod]

I had converted my S6 to RS6 Brakes last summer and have been wanting to do this mod ever since. Who do I pay and by what method??? Thanks so very much, regards, Paul, Providence, RI

[dfgu]

Is it too late to join? Would love to get these..

[4everRS]

Not too late. Again, here is the payment instructions to Unit20.

Right guys ,

Please send payment to .
martin@unit20.org

Please add 3% to cover paypal fee's

Please add a full postal address and local phone number.
Once I've had the first 10 I'll send out .

Please send any questions to the above email address.

grizz

[NSU RS6]

216.30 sent to Martin Adams......

[grizz]

Wow , what a responce ...

All the parts have been orderd .

As soon as they arrive I'll proces the orderes ..

Grizz

[mik15]

did you get my email? i was asking you how much would be the shipping to Abu Dhabi for the kit?

[grizz]

did you get my email? i was asking you how much would be the shipping to Abu Dhabi for the kit?

Hi , I did post a reply bt not sure what happened to it .

I can post to the UAE no problems .
The total cost will be $250 delivered .

Thanks Grizz

[mdegracia]

Just sent payment!


4everRS
4.2crew
Thrill house
Chase
Brav
Stephencl
Mdgracia
Chung
Justin9212
Kismetcaptain
fly5150
vr430
cgyrs6(new
Kevin

[Ghost-]

Wow , what a responce ...

All the parts have been orderd .

As soon as they arrive I'll proces the orderes ..

Grizz

Grizz, I also sent you an email asking for the price to Mexico.
Thanks!

[wpod]

Thanks very much for making this happen, I truly appreciate it. regards, Paul

[alrightroad]

PP sent. Thanks grizz!

-eric

[alrightroad]

Anyone know (grizz?) if this pre-cut kit will also fit other C5 platforms? I assume so. Thinking about a 2nd set to go on the allroad also.

[hahnmgh63]

I would think the kit would fit all post facelift C5's.

[alrightroad]

I would think the kit would fit all post facelift C5's.

Thanks. I'll find out when I get mine and test fit on the allroad.

[dfgu]

Thanks. I'll find out when I get mine and test fit on the allroad.


I plan to do the same with my allroad. :hihi:

[4everRS]

Well, I can't wait to get these installed. I'm sure Grizz would be happy with more orders as well. After going through the list of those who've confirmed payment:

4eversRS
4.2Crew
Kismetcaptain
Chung
Justin9212
Gregoryindiana
Thrill house
NSU RS6
mdegracia
wpod
alrightroad
dfgu

And probably a few other stragglers.

[Stephencl]

I paid right after the instructions went up....within 5 mins.

Stephen

[Ghost-]

$216.30 sent to martin@unit20.org

[vr430]

Grrr. I was just now able to catch up with this thread. Money sent.

[formula1man]

How did I miss this ?#@&*! Can I still get in?

[4everRS]

How did I miss this ?#@&*! Can I still get in?

Yep. Just follow Grizz's instruction.

[kevin]

Paid via PayPal!

[FlyFisherAJC]

I am in too! Will PM Grizz.

[grizz]

The first 10 set's have arrived and will be shipped this week .
I'll order the next sets monday .

The shipping will take 10-14 days ( i hope)

grizz

[Brav]

Payment sent.. Sorry for delay, was out of town.

[fly5150]

Paypal Sent just now.
:)

[FlyFisherAJC]

I am in too! Will PM Grizz.

payment and PM sent.

[4everRS]

Nice list! Gotta be some kind of group buy record.

4eversRS
4.2Crew
Kismetcaptain
Chung
Justin9212
Gregoryindiana
Thrill house
NSU RS6
mdegracia
wpod
alrightroad
dfgu
Stephencl
Ghost
Vr430
formula1man
Kevin
FlyFisherAJC
Brav
Fly5150

[cgyrs6]

FWIW - I'm on too. Thanks Grizz

[gregoryindiana]

FWIW - I'm on too. Thanks Grizz

Same here; got home from vacation and paypal'ed my money in!

[Amulet-S6]

Wow, having already done this mod (thru Grizz) This has been one funny thread to watch unfold. Well done all !

[MaxRS6]

^LOL- I nominate this thread the most successful group buy

Edit: I noticed Kyle beat me to the punch..;0

[ThrillHouse]

^LOL- I nominate this thread the most successful group buy

Edit: I noticed Kyle beat me to the punch..;0

I've never seen something go like this either. This seems accurate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQCP85FngzE

[hunter]

i've seen lots of pics on line of this mod installed with the wheel off but none from underneath with the wheel on. So this past weekend while my beast was up on the lift getting BFG RG1s put on for the track weekend i snapped a few pics for you guys just to make the waiting and anticipation.... better?

12617

[4everRS]

Hunter. Looks like you've got a love note stuck in it.

[hunter]

That's funny. But you know the way this car makes me feel when i drive her i just about could be moved to write a love sonnet about her. But if i did i wouldn't stick it on her brake ducts, i'd post it on the web :-)

[Chung]

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/15/magazine/15wwlnidealab.t.html?pagewanted=1&_r=2

"This lesson is not limited to cultural products either. Economists like Brian Arthur and Paul David have long argued that similar mechanisms affect the competition between technologies (like operating systems or fax machines) that display what are called “network effects,” meaning that the attractiveness of a technology increases with the number of people using it. "

[Mudguts]

PM sent - looking for quote to Toronto, Ontario M3B 3C9, so I can send payment.

Tnx,
MG

[Brav]

I will be in Toronto tomorrow for work.. I'd bring them if I had them!

[Mudguts]

Tnx for offer - what brings you to Toronto?

[grizz]

A quick update guys ..

It looks like we've had all the parts Audi uk could get , One of the ducts was in short supply and I'm hoping they will be with me monday .
As soon as they arrive they'll get sent out as all the back plates are cut ready .

I can't believe how any we've had to cut ... A real night mare ..

[Brav]

Tnx for offer - what brings you to Toronto?

I was meeting with a potential distributor for a product we produce for the auto industry.

[Brav]

I can't believe how any we've had to cut ... A real night mare ..

LOL, sorry mate..

[kismetcapitan]

A quick update guys ..

It looks like we've had all the parts Audi uk could get , One of the ducts was in short supply and I'm hoping they will be with me monday .
As soon as they arrive they'll get sent out as all the back plates are cut ready .

I can't believe how any we've had to cut ... A real night mare ..

will you be emailing tracking numbers as they go out?

on the upside, we did bring you a lot of business! :)

[wpod]

Sorry, but I'm like a kid on Christmas Eve when it comes to ordering/waiting on Audi upgrade parts. As a side note, I managed to fight off the temptation to convert my S6 to a six speed by buying a real five speed, an old (1978) Porsche 911 SC (air cooled!). As I've read in the past that a few of you are Porsche owners, who are the recommended parts dealers for new and/or used 911 parts, I see that Tweeks is no longer in business ? Thanx, Paul, Providence, RI

[1uglymug]

I am a little late. Can I still get in on this deal?

[Justin9212]

Any idea when we should start to have these in our hands?

[grizz]

Right guys .

The Group buy is now closed.
The kit's will be sent out monday in order that they were placed .
I'm now sick of cutting up the back plates .
They will be sent royal mail to keep costs down.
I'll post in batches of 5 and will post on this forum when they have been sent.

We've had a big problem getting them all from audi as they must only sell 1 set a month .. :)

[wpod]

forward to receiving and installing your fine handi-work. Much appreciated.:applause:

[topcat_92]

Put me on the list for the next group order

[stubro]

Please put me in the next buy as well. I toasted the brakes and rotors at Sebring this weekend. Made it home on very very thin pads.

[1uglymug]

Please put me in the next buy as well. I toasted the brakes and rotors at Sebring this weekend. Made it home on very very thin pads.


Include me as well.

[grizz]

Right , the first 10 sets went off today ..

The rest will follow later this week.

[formula1man]

Awesome, I am sure that I am in the 2nd batch, but at least it is getting closer....

[wpod]

Thanks grizz, great work!!!

[Justin9212]

Any update here? I have not received anything, not a tracking number or a package. I'm getting a little worried. Has anyone received them yet?

[Amulet-S6]

Any update here? I have not received anything, not a tracking number or a package. I'm getting a little worried. Has anyone received them yet?

Justin,

Grizz/Unit20 is in England, is a "small business" not warehouse, and uses their parcel post system, which seems to take a bit longer than we're used to with Internet--> FedEx/UPS. Grizz is a solid guy. Over the years, I've ordered Phaeton plates, Wagner IC's and Euro Headlights from him, all pre-paid by me and everything has arrived as promised. It's like a kid waiting for Christmas toys to arrive... never soon enough, right!

As reading this thread, it seems due to the numbers involved, he's doing these in batches. You understand that the stock Phaeton plate has to be hand cut with a template to adapt to our cars, so it's a bit time intensive. BTW, when we started doing this back in '07, we had to make our own templates and cuts - so Grizz is saving you quite a bit of hassle and additional $ - you guys have it soooo easy :)

(not sure how this reads, no attitude intended, just sharing feedback)

FWIW, Jim

[4.2Crew]

My wife's family lives in a suburb of London... When we receive packages from England via regular mail, it can take anywhere from 1.5 to 5 weeks for delivery...

No worries here!

Can't imagine there is much margin for Grizz after parts, fabrication, packaging and postage...

Thanks again, Grizz!

[kismetcapitan]

hope it actually takes LONGER...I'm in DC on business, and my condo complex doesn't have a concierge to receive and hold packages so...hope it takes a couple weeks longer until I get back!

[Justin9212]

I just really want them before my next track day on the 15th.

[formula1man]

Grizz, thank you!! Recieved them about 1.5 weeks ago and will put them on this weekend.
Great job as always!

[Ghost-]

Thank you Grizz, just got the whole kit today!
Will install it later when I have time.

Ghost-

[Justin9212]

Any updates? I really wanted them before track day this weekend.

[wpod]

what carrier (USPS, UPS, FedEx, etc.) is the final delivery to your home being made by ??? Anybody on the East Coast get thiers yet??? Thanks, Paul

[ThrillHouse]

Waiting patiently here in Boston

[Justin9212]

Nothing yet in NY

[kismetcapitan]

still waiting on mine....

[mdegracia]

After speaking with Grizz. 4 sets did not go out due to one of the ducts being on backorder. He is currently sorting things out.

Matt

[wpod]

Once again- what carrier will be making the delivery?? I assume it will not be the Royal Post. Thanx, Paul

[kismetcapitan]

a bit bummed that I was the very first to make payment but in the last batch to go out, but oh well, I'm not in the biggest hurry...

[4everRS]

a bit bummed that I was the very first to make payment but in the last batch to go out, but oh well, I'm not in the biggest hurry...

Me too. Being that I kinda started this thing.

[wpod]

How many of you have received your kit thus far and where are you located? ThanX, Paul

[4.2Crew]

Nothing yet... MN

[4everRS]

Nothing yet... MN

Ditto...

[Ghost-]

Hello, I got the kit on July 3rd right in front of my house in Guadalajara, Mexico.
Cheers!

[kismetcapitan]

still no dice :(

[lswing]

This is rediculous, is the stuff really in the mail for you all, I would assume so...but serious wait.

[ThrillHouse]

Nothing here either. I don't mind a wait but we haven't gotten any info at all

[Justin9212]

Nothing here in upstate NY.

[gregoryindiana]

Got mine a long time ago; at least 3 or 4 weeks.

[makaveli42]

Got mine a long time ago; at least 3 or 4 weeks.

What part of Indiana are you in? And does your liscense plate read "engage"? Im in greenwood, in and have seen a silver rs6 with that plate.

[Justin9212]

Anymore of these get shipped out? I would like to make at least 1 track day this year with these. It's really kinda of frustrating. I feel like I was one of the first to pay, now one of the last waiting for them.

[alrightroad]

Nothing on my doorstep yet. I'm sure they will be here soon enough.

[NSU RS6]

I am starting to thing I missed the postman, and they are sitting in a corner somewhere.

[4.2Crew]

Admittedly, I'm a little disappointed in the lack of communication regarding the pending status of the kits not completed and/or shipped... I know Kyle and myself were among the first to make payment!

I understand crap happens, shipping is slow, parts get back ordered and they're a pain in the ass to fab..... A quick update once in a while would go a long way for those of us still waiting after 3 months.

[kismetcapitan]

Admittedly, I'm a little disappointed in the lack of communication regarding the pending status of the kits not completed and/or shipped... I know Kyle and myself were among the first to make payment!

I understand crap happens, shipping is slow, parts get back ordered and they're a pain in the ass to fab..... A quick update once in a while would go a long way for those of us still waiting after 3 months.

I'd agree - I do recall being the very first person to post payment. At least I'm not in any particular hurry...

[mdegracia]

Nothing here either...patiently waiting.

[ben916]

they're a pain in the ass to fab[/B].....

Actually they are not that bad to fab up...
I think mine took an hour of total back/forth of cut/fit...
Wade's were about 30 minutes as we had the process down...

This IS with using on the three bolt connection, NOT welding on a piece for the forth bolt...

[Justin9212]

The real issue I'm having here is I paid on May 6th and have had zero communication with the seller. No updates, no time frame, no reason for delay, and no eta. Just waiting while someone has my money. We only have about another 6 weeks of track weather here. I have a feeling at this rate I won't get to use these at all this year.

[4.2Crew]

I contacted Martin at Unit 20 yesterday.... Apparently, all kits have been fab'd and shipped. He seemed surprised anyone was still waiting delivery. He didn't know when the last shipment was made, but said he'd look into it Monday morning.... I strongly encouraged him to post an update on this board with specifics.

[grizz]

could anyone who hasn't recived the kits please email me at martin@unit20.org.

There was only 1 kit not sent .

I'll send new kits to those who have not recived them.

I'm sorry for the lack of coms , if you email i'll reply direct straight away.

Part of the problem is a lack of tracking number as royal mail don't supply one on this service.

grizz

[4.2Crew]

Have not recieved.... Email sent.

[alrightroad]

could anyone who hasn't recived the kits please email me at martin@unit20.org.

There was only 1 kit not sent .

I'll send new kits to those who have not recived them.

I'm sorry for the lack of coms , if you email i'll reply direct straight away.

Part of the problem is a lack of tracking number as royal mail don't supply one on this service.

grizz

Didnt receive mine yet. sending you email now...

eric

[ThrillHouse]

Email sent including new address since i'm in the process of moving (ugh)

[wpod]

Have not yet received, Email sent, Thanks for your help! regards, Paul

[grizz]

update ....

I've resent the missing sets today. Can every one please email me when they arrive .

I'm so sorry for the delay ...

grizz

[FlyFisherAJC]

nothing yet for me either... will email now.

[kismetcapitan]

mine arrived. Envelope was in shreds but fortunately the bolts and everything else was still inside. Close call but thankful that I finally have these in hand!!

btw, does it matter if the ducts are bolted onto the backing plates first, then installed? Or is it easier to install the backing plates, then screw in the ducts? Loctite on the bolts for the duct?

[wpod]

And could you tell if this was from the "original" shipment or the new shipment? Trying to look for a glimmer of hope. Thanks, Paul

[wpod]

:)IT HAS ARRIVED! at my home in Providence, RI at 10:00 am --8/27/2012. Honest to God, I had a dream last night that these parts had been delivered, wow! me happy! Thank you Grizz!!!!!

[kismetcapitan]

And could you tell if this was from the "original" shipment or the new shipment? Trying to look for a glimmer of hope. Thanks, Paul

good lord, Nashville of course! I'm afraid I didn't take a good look at the postage; I'll see if I can't find where I tossed it...

[mdegracia]

Got my kit today as well. 8/16 ship date.

Thanks Grizz!

[4everRS]

Ok. You east coast guys have em. Probably a couple days yet to MN.

[4.2Crew]

Ok. You east coast guys have em. Probably a couple days yet to MN.

Agreed. Nothing here----yet....

[alrightroad]

I'm 'east coast' but down a few states in SC. nothing yet.

[wpod]

From the pictures that I remember seeing on an Audiworld tech article website, there was a lot less metal removed to clear the bottom of the "upright". Tell12893 me what you think. (and check your fitment as well)

[wpod]

Here's the pic that I was talking about. Maybe I'm being a bit too anal, but this is how I would have done it as well...12894

[mdegracia]

^ good lord! I guess so! I have yet to inspect mine, but I would hope they could be a lil tighter than that!

[ben916]

Here's the pic that I was talking about. Maybe I'm being a bit too anal, but this is how I would have done it as well...12894

This is how mine is, as this is the part that takes the time to make it right and tight but not rubbing...

[wpod]

Maybe the original parts that I ordered 4 months ago will show up soon and they will have been done correctly ! I am the eternal optimist ? This batch that was shipped out on the 16th of this month was probably done/altered in great haste. Good commuinication would have prevented this. bummer.........

[4.2Crew]

This batch that was shipped out on the 16th of this month was probably done/altered in great haste. Good commuinication would have prevented this. bummer.........

I totally agree... Given the circumstances leading to this point, anything less than near perfect fit, finish and fabrication will be a let down.

[wpod]

And if so, what is the fitment like? Curious to find out if anyone else got the crappy metal work like I did, or am I the only "lucky" one? Replies will be greatly appreciated. Thanx, Paul, Providence, RI

[4.2Crew]

And if so, what is the fitment like? Curious to find out if anyone else got the crappy metal work like I did, or am I the only "lucky" one? Replies will be greatly appreciated. Thanx, Paul, Providence, RI


I'm still waiting.... Haven't recieved'em yet.

[4everRS]

I'm still waiting.... Haven't recieved'em yet.
Me too.....

[NSU RS6]

Still waiting here too.

[alrightroad]

Waiting here as well.

[ThrillHouse]

Same here, still waiting

[Chase]

This group buy has turned into a real mess.

For some reason I had a funny feeling and although I committed to buy early on, I never sent any money.

How many have got their kits and how many have not? And Grizz, can you give an update on your end (transparency is probably the best policy at this point).

What percentage of the cost of the kits is the backing plates? If they are all machined like wpod's, I'm sure some buyers will want to find replacements they can machine themselves.

If any get two packages (the original and replacement) I would be interested in buying the extra one from grizz and have it direct shipped to me... Anyone????

[alrightroad]

Has anyone heard from Martin/grizz? I have emailed him directly several times in the last 2 months but have not had a reply back.

[4.2Crew]

Has anyone heard from Martin/grizz? I have emailed him directly several times in the last 2 months but have not had a reply back.

He responded to an email of mine back in early Aug... Still have received nothing. I'm ok if he simply refunds my $200+ and sells'em to someone more patient.

[ThrillHouse]

He responded to an email of mine back in early Aug... Still have received nothing. I'm ok if he simply refunds my $200+ and sells'em to someone more patient.

Same here; emails in early August... Which was necessary since I was moving mid August. That wasn't suppose to be an issue when I ordered them! He told me he would send them to the new address

[alrightroad]

I just got an email from Martin. He is on holiday for another week or so. FYI.

[ben916]

I just got an email from Martin. He is on holiday for another week or so. FML.

^^^fixed...

Sorry, couldn't resist :)

[alrightroad]

Lol. 123

[Bigglezworth]

If any one receives a duplicate set due to the shipping woes, please PM me.

Tim

[4.2Crew]

I just got an email from Martin. He is on holiday for another week or so. FYI.
Huh... A holiday from what???

Sorry, I'll be less of an dick when my money is refunded for backing plates not received after 5 months----and no communication.

[NSU RS6]

I emailed Martin a couple of weeks ago with a pasted copy of my Paypal receipt.

No response.....

[mdegracia]

I finally had some time this weekend and got around to installing the ducts along with new rotors, HPS pads, ECS lines, super blue fluid, and buffed and waxed the front calipers.

Pretty disappointed in the fitment of the backing plates. A lot of meat was unnecessarily cut off to clearance the uprights, which are now no where near the backing plates! At least they can serve as an inspection window for pad/rotor wear! Looking back on it, I wish I just requested the plates left stock and I would have taken the time necessary to make the cutouts pristine and look respectable.

While Grizz probably lost out on the all the rework that was required due to loss packages, I can't help but wonder why he rushed through these replacement sets? Also, I am surprised my replacement set even made it to me, and see how the first set was lost. The packaging looked like it had been to hell and back - rips and tears all over. These parts, due to their sharps, should have been placed in a tyvek bag, not a non-reinforced paper product.

[4.2Crew]

After waiting 5 months for non delivery of Phaeton backing plates, and recieving minimal updates/communication, I requested a full refund.... Martin @ Unit 20 responded to my inquiry within 24hrs and refunded the full payment. Sorry this did not work out. Sometimes shit just happens.

[4everRS]

Well guys. This group buy is a near complete failure(a few DID get the kits). I once was very proud of the teamwork getting a large number of buyers, including me. I never received anything either.

As the organizer for this group buy, I apologize for the headache it's caused.

I asked for my money back today and it was refunded. On one hand I feel bad for Martin that he (apparently) had sent out these kits. Even replacement kits. However, with the lack of communication and follow through, I can't feel all that bad.

[ThrillHouse]

Don't feel bad for a second. I also have am email out to cancel

[4.2Crew]

As the organizer for this group buy, I apologize for the headache it's caused.


We all understand your disappointment, but don't even go there, Kyle!... This was not your debauchery . Thanks for initiating the group buy! You were simply extending the idea/offer to other enthusiast's on this board and the vendor as a win/win... I certainly hope this does not discourage other's from initiating future group buys and etc.

[alrightroad]

Kyle, no worries at all. your effort paid off for more than 1 person so it was partial success, not a partial failure. Unfortunately, I follow up that sentence with... i emailed Martin and asked for a refund. my package never showed up.

[grizz]

Guys , This has been a compleat disaster for me ..

I've sent every one a kit and resent other kits to cover the missing ones.

I've sent a refund to every one who has asked.

I sent lots of parts to the usa most are large so shipping costs are high so are tracked , I've never had one go missing with this service.

All i can say is sorry..

[kismetcapitan]

Guys , This has been a compleat disaster for me ..

I've sent every one a kit and resent other kits to cover the missing ones.

I've sent a refund to every one who has asked.

I sent lots of parts to the usa most are large so shipping costs are high so are tracked , I've never had one go missing with this service.

All i can say is sorry..

I can say that you are an honest stand up guy; if the first shipped kit ever shows up, I will post about it immediately, and reship at my expense to wherever it needs to go. I appreciate the labor you put into this!

Meanwhile, I've yet to install my kit...

[alrightroad]

Anyone else not yet received refund from Grizz? He emailed me that he sent refund a few weeks back but I have nothing in my paypal account from him.

[ThrillHouse]

I didn't initially but after an email including my Paypal Id he was fast to refund.

[vangelis]

http://www.rs6.com/showthread.php/17213-390-x-36-mm-Rotors-what-is-the-requirements?p=156433&viewfull=1#post156433

Here is the link above for this duct installed on my beloved beast, miss it :((

[kismetcapitan]

I wonder if the packaging was the issue; mine was ripped and nearly falling out, but miraculously everything was still in there. With some packages, it's conceivable that the plates tore out of the envelope and then the post office would have been stuck with empty envelopes, with the parts scattered who knows where?

[NSU RS6]

Anyone else not yet received refund from Grizz? He emailed me that he sent refund a few weeks back but I have nothing in my paypal account from him.

I got the same email that he refunded - but nothing has shown up on my Paypal account either.

I have been involved in so many group buys for Audi stuff over the years.......and this is the only time I have ever been burned.

This is why Ebay now forces tracking on all auctions. Otherwise there is no accountability. "I sent it...I promise", or, "I never received it.....I promise", and the whole thing turns into a game of he said she said.

I am still out $212.

Fuh.

[alrightroad]

I ended up getting the refund finally. He had mispelled my email address when he sent the refund. We figured it out together. I would email him and verify your paypal email address with him again. He is always quick to reply and help so I dont think your missing refund is an intentional thing on his end.

[NSU RS6]

I got the same email that he refunded - but nothing has shown up on my Paypal account either.

I have been involved in so many group buys for Audi stuff over the years.......and this is the only time I have ever been burned.

This is why Ebay now forces tracking on all auctions. Otherwise there is no accountability. "I sent it...I promise", or, "I never received it.....I promise", and the whole thing turns into a game of he said she said.

I am still out $212.

Fuh.

Edit for being square. Thanks Martin.

[FlyFisherAJC]

nothing and nothing for me. no parts and no refund. who recommended this guy? whoever it was owes me a beer.

[Justin9212]

I'm in the same boat. One of the first to send money, and I received nothing. Out the money with nothing to show for it. I was planning on buying downpipes from these guys too. What a mistake that would have been. My first group by on the site, and now likely my last one. Getting scammed sucks.

[grizz]

Guys , as far as I was aware every one had received there parts or been issued a refund .
Please email me martin@unit20.org and I'll send a refund .

as I've said this has been a disaster .

[Elevens]

I and many others have bought from Unit20 with no issues at all. As he (Martin) has said this Group buy has turned out to be a complete disaster and a learning experience, as far as Overseas Group buys are concerned. He'll probably never do it again, as I am sure he has lost money on this whole ordeal. If you have not received your Refund, then Contact him I am sure he will work it out with you. Calling him a Scammer is completely out of place and uncalled for, since most that are due refunds have already received them.

[Stephencl]

Plus 1 to what Eleven's said....as the organizer of a very expensive carbon spoiler group buy, I can tell you it is NOT a money making proposition. I have personally dealt with Grizz on MANY topics over the last 8 years, and they have all been great. Let's not throw the baby out with the bath water here. I am sure he will make it right.

Stephen

[grizz]

Thanks guys ,
the facts are , I own a small garage and well a few parts to customers all over the world .
At present I helping a customer in Australia who's car was very badly damaged so required a full car to be stripped and shipped .

i was Totally over whelmed by the numbers in this GB .
I tried to keep the costs down and didn't use a tracked shipping service .

I've spent years building up my company and as a enthusiast put my heart and sole into everything .
its not about making money , it was about trying to help other enthusiasts out .

I failed , I'm genuinely gutted .

sorry .

[4everRS]

I received a refund within an hour of asking for it.

I believe Martin is genuinely upset about this. I feel bad the group buy was a flop and equally bad for Martin.

FlyFisher, I organized this, so I will take credit for 'recommending' unit20. However you won't be getting a beer from me, so don't hold your breath. Ask for your money back. Move on.

[FlyFisherAJC]

Thanks for the replies Grizz and 4everRS. I just sent mail requesting a refund.

[Kgnast]

This duct-work for the front brakes? Euro Phaeton goodies? Would someone enlighten me as to details of this mod? Pics perhaps from someone whose done it? Thanks in advance.

[ben916]

This duct-work for the front brakes? Euro Phaeton goodies? Would someone enlighten me as to details of this mod? Pics perhaps from someone whose done it? Thanks in advance.

Do it yourself -> http://www.rs6.com/showthread.php/11459-RS6-Brake-Cooling-Modifications-Details?highlight=phaeton

[Kgnast]

Ah, thanks for pointing me in the right direction. Much obliged Ben. :)