Team Dynamics Racing 1.2 Wheel

[MaxRS6]

After beating up my BBS wheels a bit, and not wanting to run on the OEM wheels for track events- I am on da hunt for track wheels..

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS7evZJr025-rbLcuvVAFrszLpIjJ_5bSnqmIPX0nfAehPL0NIjR-hzpgM

I looked at the Enkei wheels. However; there were clearance issues with the Alcons, and I didn't want to run spacers. Therefore; after a little mo huntin, the Team Dynamic Racing (TDR) Wheel 1.2 is the current candidate. Currently, I'm running the BBS wheel that has a 38 offset with 12mm spacers. The TDR is 18x9 with a 25 offset. So, I'm thinking these will fit without the need for a spacer, and the TDR rep. thinks they will clear the brakes. I get to "test" fit them to verfiy before handing over the $$$.

Any feedback on these from the gang?

http://www.avalonmotorsports.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=229_216_217&products_id=300&zenid=cda09282186aaf44f4f00f42b516dc1d

http://www.avalonmotorsports.com/images/Team_Dynamics_prorace_1-2_Avalon_Motorsports.jpg

[4everRS]

Nice Elmer illustration

So the BBS, are they cast or forged? I see these are cast. Do they have a recommended car weight? If they are strong enough, they look really good. You're correct about the offset and not needing spacers. My summer wheels are 25 offset and they fit perfect.

[MaxRS6]

The BBS wheels are forged.

Thanks for bringing up the weight question. I haven't seen anything about the recommended car weight on the TDR wheels. The representative stated the TDR wheels are strong enough for our heavy hog. However; I will ask the specific question about the weight tomorrow, and see if there is a spec sheet that I can review. The TDR wheels -while cast- are still surprisingly light.

Thanks for the info on your offset. I should have a wheel to "test fit" within a couple of weeks.

It is nice to have the "street tire/wheels" safely in the paddock while out on the track. The tracks- that allow my presence- are multiple hours away. Therefore; it is nice to know if a tire "gives out" on the track, I'll still be able to head home without issue or need of a U-Haul truck- assuming I haven't slid into a wall or other obstacle....;000

[4everRS]

. The tracks- that allow my presence- are multiple hours away.
hahaha - what did you do?

Isn't there a track nearer to you?

[MaxRS6]

^Apparently.......some tracks frown upon one partaking of liquid spirits and having a cooler of the stuff covered in paddock areas. Who woulda thought??? Then when they found I had been forging the weight/hp class limits...well you know the story..;0

Actually- no local tracks. The closest is a couple of hours away. However; the ones I like to haunt are a bit further and worth the extra distance for this kid. The distance is one reason I don't make it to very many track events. They do make good get aways from reality and the road trips add to the adventure.

[ben916]

OK, I will bite hard...

What is the difference between forged and cast?
(ducks for cover!)

Also, why not some HRE's? They are made RIGHT here in San Diego, CA and you can come visit good ol' Southern boys in Cali where it is suppose to be 80 degrees this weekend...
http://www.hrewheels.com/cl93/

[kilian tuning]

just get some s8 wheels, they look awesome...:)
http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee469/mavada1/2312_1085574223257_1343450216_238302_9875_n.jpg

[MaxRS6]

OK, I will bite hard...

What is the difference between forged and cast?
(ducks for cover!)

Good article at below link:

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/techpage.jsp?techid=90

Pulling a couple snippets:

The casting of wheels is the process of getting molten aluminum inside a mold to form a wheel.

Forging is the process of forcing a solid billet of aluminum between the forging dies under an extreme amount of pressure.

[Jimmy]

One would think you would want the lightest weight rims for track events...try a look at Kosei or even Diamond Racing steelies. Most all are under 20 lbs w/o tires.

I used to run 19 lb Kosei K1s on the 500E, made a huge difference on the track, of course, they were no good on the road (they couldn't absorb any road irregularities like the heavy AMG rims do)

[MaxRS6]

^The TDR wheel is under 20 lbs.

The Kosei was another option that I had considered, and still think that would be a good choice. However; I ended up with a personal preference with the TDR. The sales rep has been responsive- and is letting me "test fit" the wheels. They both seem to have very good reputations.

I had not taken a look at the Diamond Racing steelies.

I appreciate the input!

[grizz]

I run them on my b4 rs4 with 380mm ceramics ..

Very good , very light and cheap

[MaxRS6]

^Good to get the Grizz endorsement and thank you for your input. They are set to arrive on my doorstep in a few days as the big brown truck currently has em in its' belly

[MaxRS6]

By the way all- Brian at Avalon Motorsports has been terrific to work with in my relatively limited experience with him. He has been very responsive to inquiries and has provided input and insight as I researched my options.

http://www.avalonmotorsports.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1_33&zenid=8337d5ad88945ea5e9af66d65d215225

[4everRS]

Randy, I asked about this wheel to the Mn Audi forum. Several use it for track events. It was said it might be a little soft for normal street use with potholes, train tracks, ect. I ask for weight of cars and they are mostly a/s/rs 4's. Weight just under 4k. I think you'll be good with these as far as strength.

[MaxRS6]

^Thanks for the additional input Kyle and checking on this for me! I have a request into TDR about the wheel load pursuant to your great suggestion. I can still send them back if needed.

[yokust]

By the way all- Brian at Avalon Motorsports has been terrific to work with in my relatively limited experience with him. He has been very responsive to inquiries and has provided input and insight as I researched my options.

http://www.avalonmotorsports.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1_33&zenid=8337d5ad88945ea5e9af66d65d215225


Brian is a good guy, one of the better local shops also

[MaxRS6]

^The TDR wheel is under 20 lbs.

Big Brown delivered today. I was mistaken about the weight- they are actually approximately 23 lbs. I look forward to giving them a workout..;0

[Jimmy Joe]

¿ When are you hitting the track ?

[MaxRS6]

^If the car cooperates and the stars continue to align, early March at TWS.

[MaxRS6]

I just test fit em and they clear the brakes with plenty of room. Now I'm waiting for a friendly delivery of Michelin Pilot Sport Cups tires from my tire angel (you know who u r) to finalize the test fit.

These wheels seem to take up the wheel well space. With the tires loaded, it seems like it will be quite the package to stuff in there. I know some of you run 10 inch wheels and man they must be absolutely stuffed in there.

Hopefully the car will keep purring- and those stars keep moving in the right direction....

[ben916]

I just test fit em and they clear the brakes with plenty of room. Now I'm waiting for a friendly delivery of Michelin Pilot Sport Cups tires from my tire angel (you know who u r) to finalize the test fit.

These wheels seem to take up the wheel well space. With the tires loaded, it seems like it will be quite the package to stuff in there. I know some of you run 10 inch wheels and man they must be absolutely stuffed in there.

Hopefully the car will keep purring- and those stars keep moving in the right direction....

I'd pay $$$$ for that comedy!

[MaxRS6]

^oops....that would be a site...

I'll add to the laughter and comedy to give everyone a good Max story. While I had the wheels off to "test" fit the wheels- I thinks to myself- Might as well change the front brake pads. I yank the calipers off, slip the old pads out, slip the new Carbotech pads in. It is getting rather late and I slap the wheels back on and decide to take it around the block. The first stop I I hear a definite "griiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnd"- Ooooof- What did I do??

I limp the car back into the gargage and start to inspect. My eyes spot something, my brain says "no that can't be", the eyes say "oh yes it is", the brain says "no, no, you didn't do that", the eyes say "oh yes, oh yes you did. Finally the eyes win out. I had put one of the pads in backwards with the metal plate facing the rotor. So now, I have to start over again on that side- jack it up, yank the wheel and caliper off, switch the pad around, put it back together, and now take a final test drive at midnight and all is good again.

I now wake up this morning to find this other goof (and Ben knockin my chops rightfully) on my message about 10 inch wheels. The "medicine" must have been working well last night...;0

[ben916]

:)

at least you didn't touch a glowing rotor with your index finger thinking "I wonder if that is hot?" - insta-blister... duhhhrrr

[MaxRS6]

^I do recall that gem...;)

[MaxRS6]

Test fit pics

OEM lug bolts on only for testing purposes. Black lugs are ordered.
http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz195/MaxRS6/TDR%20Wheels/PIC_1234.jpg?t=1328322110
http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz195/MaxRS6/TDR%20Wheels/PIC_1235.jpg?t=1328322058

[ben916]

I thought you had Phaeton ducting?

[MaxRS6]

I thought you had Phaeton ducting?

I do Mr. Ben

[ben916]

I do Mr. Ben

I must be blinded by all the shiny Alcon/Statis goodies to as where I am unable to take my eyes away from all that awesomeness!