2014 Audi TT.

[The Pretender]

http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/4059/auditt3autobildlarson12.jpg

Source: Autobild.
Illustratie: Larson.

German text (focus.de):

Der neue Audi TT kommt 2014
Der Audi TT hat sich nach zwei Modellgenerationen fest im Sportwagensegment etabliert.
Die Neuauflage setzt 2014 daher auf Kontinuität – und feilt an bekannten Tugenden.
Kräftig abgespeckt kommt 2014 die dritte Generation des Sportwagens Audi TT auf den Markt.
Dank eines erhöhten Alu-Anteils sind Coupé und Roadster bei unverändert kompakten Abmessungen bis zu 60 Kilogramm leichter als ihre Vorgänger.

Optisch bleibt es laut „Auto Bild“ bei der mittlerweile tradierten Form, dank schärfer gezogener Karosseriekanten wirkt der TT aber bulliger und aggressiver.
Für den richtigen Anpressdruck bei hohen Geschwindigkeiten sorgen ein Dachspoiler und ein ausfahrbares Luftleitblech am Heck.
Die Motorleistung legt leicht zu und reicht dann von 132 kW/180 PS im 1,8-Liter-Turbobenziner bis 279 kW/380 PS im 2,5-Liter-Turbo des TT RS.
Der erneut angebotene 2,0-Liter-Diesel kommt auf 132 kW/180 PS.
Geschaltet wird manuell oder per Doppelkupplungsgetriebe, jeweils mit sechs Gängen.
Allradantrieb ist nur bei den zwei stärksten Benzinern Serie.
In der dritten Generation trifft der TT nun auch konzernintern auf Konkurrenz.
Der erstmals unter VW-Regie startende neue Porsche Boxster/Cayman setzt zwar anders als der frontgetriebene TT auf Mittelmotor und Hinterradantrieb, wirbt aber um eine ähnliche Kundschaft.
Allerdings ist der Audi mit einem Einstiegspreis von voraussichtlich knapp 31.000 Euro rund 17.000 Euro billiger als der stärkere Porsche Boxster.
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[The Pretender]

http://www.autobild.de/ir_img/8/3/6/0/5/4/AUTO-BILD-2-2012-560x373-5bc5e10310ec657a.jpg

[tailpipe]

Not right. Looks too much like a face lifted mark II than a true mark III.

At some point, the TT is going to have to lose the Bauhaus signatures of the original to incorporate Audi's new design language.

[The Pretender]

Still like this one the best.

http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/141/9/8/tt_rs_next_gen__by_hzw-d3gvhya.jpg

[Benman]

Still like this one the best.

Agreed. :thumb:

[The RS6]

Agreed. :thumb:

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[The Pretender]

Here are the first TT3 testmule pictures.

It has changes to bonnet, a pillar, front window (more length between front wheels and doors) and fenders to make it possible to install the new MQB floorplan/drivetrain technologie.

http://media.autoweek.nl/m/m1fy51db7lrk.jpg

http://media.autoweek.nl/m/m1fy51db5irm.jpg

http://media.autoweek.nl/m/m1fy51db35rn.jpg

http://media.autoweek.nl/m/m1fy51ebcbro.jpg

http://media.autoweek.nl/m/m1fy51ebaorp.jpg

[The RS6]

1 more render:

http://photos.autoexpress.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_993/car_photo_496558_7.jpg

[The Pretender]

Audi TT Test Mule Spy Shots :

http://images.thecarconnection.com/med/2014-audi-tt-test-mule-spy-shots_100382020_m.jpg

http://images.thecarconnection.com/med/2014-audi-tt-test-mule-spy-shots_100382021_m.jpg

http://images.thecarconnection.com/med/2014-audi-tt-test-mule-spy-shots_100382022_m.jpg

http://images.thecarconnection.com/med/2014-audi-tt-test-mule-spy-shots_100382026_m.jpg

http://images.thecarconnection.com/med/2014-audi-tt-test-mule-spy-shots_100382023_m.jpg

http://images.thecarconnection.com/med/2014-audi-tt-test-mule-spy-shots_100382027_m.jpg

http://images.thecarconnection.com/med/2014-audi-tt-test-mule-spy-shots_100382025_m.jpg

http://images.thecarconnection.com/med/2014-audi-tt-test-mule-spy-shots_100382024_m.jpg

Source : http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1072915_2014-audi-tt-test-mule-spy-shots

[The Pretender]

3th Generation TT. ???

[RXBG]

concept is due this year isn't it?

[The Pretender]

concept is due this year isn't it?

I have no idea when Audi could show something, if any.
In Paris later this year there will be a Q2 Concept according to rumors.

[The Pretender]

This looks nice.

[The RS6]

It does, but it's very similar to other Audis, and you hate that, don't you? :)

[The Pretender]

It does, but it's very similar to other Audis, and you hate that, don't you? :)

Yes, it's not very TT-ish, although it's very Audi.

This is my all time favored.

[The Pretender]

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/347/d/1/ttr_by_donmanolino-d34skfz.jpg

[Benman]

Really like the direction of that sketch!

[The Pretender]

http://www.designjuices.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/audi-tt.jpg

[Benman]

The latest sketch reminds me of the Audi Rosemeyer concept, which at the time was amazing but now looks a tad dated.

[The Pretender]

http://www.autogespot.nl/audi-tt-mule/2012/07/12

[The Pretender]

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/199/b/4/the_quattro_concept_is_dead_long_live_the_tt_mk3_b y_hzw-d57phc2.jpg

[The Pretender]

Matthias Nirschl made very nice Coupe, Roadster and Shooting brake designs.

http://www.cardesignnews.com/servlet/file/170551_466_preview.jpg?ITEM_ENT_ID=170551&ITEM_VERSION=1&COLLSPEC_ENT_ID=1&FILE_SERVICE_CONF_ID=466http://www.cardesignnews.com/servlet/file/170545_65_preview.jpg?ITEM_ENT_ID=170545&ITEM_VERSION=1&COLLSPEC_ENT_ID=1&FILE_SERVICE_CONF_ID=65

But you need a member ship to see the picture in higher resolution on Cardesignnews.com

[Cale24]

Will be interesting to see where Audi take it- a mini R8 with perhaps some Quattro concept cues would be cool. One of the nicest attributes of current gen is the cleanliness of body surfaces- should age well in years to come.

[Benman]

http://www.autogespot.nl/audi-tt-mule/2012/07/12 Is it just me, or does the track look like it will be MUCH wider? Those are almost like the front wheels on a dually!

[The Pretender]

On the earlier mules it does not look like it, but on this latest one it does.

[Joker]

Really like the direction of that sketch!

Yeah me too, a definite move towards being more masculine than either Mk1 or Mk2. I especially like the crease over the arches and between them.

[The Pretender]

Another render.

[The RS6]

Bentley'ish. I like it!

[Benman]

Bentley'ish. I like it! Ditto. If Audi is watching this thread, please choose that direction. A winner.

[JavierNuvolari]

Pure sex that render is, no doubt.

[The Pretender]

During the Paris Motorshow Wolfgang Egger said that the new Audi A3 is the last Audi in this design style.
The "Audi Crosslane Coupe Concept" mark the start of a new design era at Audi.
The upcoming Audi Q2 and next TT will be the first cars designed in this new Design direction.
The first Gen TT had a Concept brother called "Audi steppenwolf" a offroader in the same design style as the TT.
Now Audi is working the other way around with the "Crosslane Concept" (based on the Steppenwolf philosophy) the TT will be next.


http://barcode.md/img/content//audi/0__P120046_large__1280_905.jpg

[AndyBG]

Thing that am
Noying me most about TT is that it allways looks great, but with its transversal engine layout and "family car" DNA doesn't me mekes me to fell about it like a I schould feel about sports car...

[The Pretender]

Yes, same here.
I always said that the TT would be better off with a longitudinal engine layout.
I think the TT RS would be a faster car if it had the 3.0TFSI V6 quattro drive line of the S4 with sport diff in the rear axle.

[AndyBG]

Boxster, Z4 even the SLK all have more sport feeling about them...

[Joker]

Yes, same here.
I always said that the TT would be better off with a longitudinal engine layout.
I think the TT RS would be a faster car if it had the 3.0TFSI V6 quattro drive line of the S4 with sport diff in the rear axle.

Not entirely sure if the MQB platform which I think the TT will be using is capable of supporting a longitudinal engine layout.

[The Pretender]

Not entirely sure if the MQB platform which I think the TT will be using is capable of supporting a longitudinal engine layout.
Nope, MQB will not support a longitudinal engine layout, the next TT will get a transverse engine layout again.
The latest black testmule proof that, with less front overhang, with a longitudinal engine layout the overhang could not get shorter, on the contrary even.

[The Pretender]

I wish the introduction will be sooner then later. :hahahehe:

http://www.audi.co.uk/content/dam/audi/production/RestOfSite/AboutAudi/Main-promo-area2.png

[Joker]

I wish the introduction will be sooner then later. :hahahehe:

http://www.audi.co.uk/content/dam/audi/production/RestOfSite/AboutAudi/Main-promo-area2.png

I believe this is from Audi UK, so maybe the new TT will be appearing sooner than first thought.

[chewym]

I wish the introduction will be sooner then later. :hahahehe:

http://www.audi.co.uk/content/dam/audi/production/RestOfSite/AboutAudi/Main-promo-area2.png

A simple cover but hides so much.

[The Pretender]

It has been quiet for a while around the new TT.
Last test mule pictures are from the 12th of july 2012.

Audi TT Mule - 12-07-2012 - Autogespot (http://www.autogespot.nl/audi-tt-mule/2012/07/12)

[The Pretender]

Update.
These pictures are from 17 Oktober 2012. (10 days ago)
Meaning they still testing with the old body on the MQB floorplan, meaning the new TT is at leased 1 year or more away from introduction.

Audi TT Mule - 17-10-2012 - Autogespot (http://www.autogespot.nl/audi-tt-mule-1/2012/10/17#img5)

[The Pretender]

I have thinking about a way for Audi to improve the next TT and one of the things that would help the weight balance is to go the Lexus LFA way with the water coolers in the back.
That way you take a lot of weight out the front and separate the water and turbo air cooling from each other.
In this case you can install a full intercooler up front and two water cooler in the rear, left and right.
Further there would be less heat in the engine bay coming from the watercooler, it also give space for a much better airflow to the brakes.
And by putting the coolers in the back left and right, the exhaust tips can move further to the middle like it should be, TT Mk1 retro style.
Audi need to separate the next TT more from the other MQB siblings performance wise IMHO.
Another advantage with this is that the TT could look more in line with the R8 because of the need for side and rear vents to accommodate air flow to the water coolers.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xEDY5bPWk-Q/S8ZfmI5_3NI/AAAAAAAAA40/Et5n_wExsas/s1600/06_l.png

[Benman]

I have thinking about a way for Audi to improve the next TT and one of the things that would help the weight balance is to go the Lexus LFA way with the water coolers in the back.
The only issue is Lexus wasn't concerned with luggage space whereas the typical TT buyer wants at least some...

[chewym]

The only issue is Lexus wasn't concerned with luggage space whereas the typical TT buyer wants at least some...

Can't see this happening in the TT price class either. Adds overall weight as well.

[The Pretender]

Next Audi TT to return to its roots | Autocar (http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/next-audi-tt-return-its-roots)

[AndyBG]

All this would make MUCH more sense only if this car got longitudal engine... MQB isn't for car that has to compete with Boxster, Z4 and others...

[The Pretender]

All this would make MUCH more sense only if this car got longitudal engine... MQB isn't for car that has to compete with Boxster, Z4 and others...

My thoughts exactly.

[Joker]

Is those Autocar's words or Audi's because its a mighty claim to compare yourself with a Boxster, I doubt this is possible unless this new platform has something unique up its sleeve.

[The Pretender]

Is those Autocar's words or Audi's because its a mighty claim to compare yourself with a Boxster, I doubt this is possible unless this new platform has something unique up its sleeve.
MQB is nothing special IMHO, and the Q means "Quer" (tranverse), so no way a longitudinal engine is possible.
It also mean Haldex 4WD, and i have not here anything special about the Haldex ? version used in the MQB.

[tailpipe]

Pretender,

Autocar gets it right more often than it gets it wrong, so I find this story encouraging:

POSITIVES
- Lighter, more aluminium-intensive chassis
- New EA888 engines plus reworked 2.5 5-cylinder unit for TT-RS
- Return to Bauhaus styling

NEGATIVES
- MQB platform with transverse engine
- Haldex AWD system

Actually, MQB isn't the negative you perceive it to be. If you use a longitudinally mounted engine with Audi's traditional quattro set-up, most of the engine weight is ahead of the front axle. With MQB you can tilt the engine rearwards so while it isn't behind the front axle, at least it is over it.

Secondly, A lot of work is being done on the Haldex system and I think we may be in for a few surprises. Mercedes has reworked it for the upcoming A45 so that the you can actually steer the car with the throttle. Haldex is likely to incorporate these changes into standard units it makes for VW and Audi.

Thirdly, my understanding is that Audi is feeling a little bit stung by recent criticism of its design language. That being the case, plus Audi's love of the original TT's Bauhaus lines should mean that we're in for a stunning car visually.

Will the next TT be on a par with the Boxter? I don't know. let's hope so.

[The Pretender]

More aluminium only means that the steel doors will be made out of aluminium on the next Gen.
The steel rear-end like it has been used in de 2th Gen will be maintained in the next one according to info, for better weight balance.
Engine wise, i'm not a fan of chain driven engines, and Audi show they are clueless in that part of engine building.
The tilted solution is not new, the 3.2 VR6 (weigh less then the 2.5TFSI) in the TT was standing upright with a lot space between the engine and the firewall, the 2.5 was tilted because of it's heavy weight. (184 Kg)
VAG had sign a contract a while back with Haldex for a new VAG specific Haldex development for the MQB floorplan, you would exspect something special but there are no big anouncements about it not even with the introduction of the new S3.
The Haldex system is just a ordinary system used by almost every manifactor of transverse engines FWD/4WD cars, Saab, Opel, Mercedes, VAG, and so on, it's just a multi mass product used by every one.
Haldex 4WD is nothing more the a fancy FWD with benefits, remove it from the TT RS and install a LSD and you have a much quiker car.

On the Design part of things, don't forget "WOLFGANG EGGER" is in charge, and he is not the man for the job IMHO.
The quattro Concept was a nice car but it does not look anything like the Ur-quattro-sport, it was missing several key elements of the original design, and it ridicule the hole Sport quattro's history.
And putting in a 5 cylinder engine does not make it right, even this sketch looks better.

http://s3images.coroflot.com/user_files/individual_files/90574_VrT5ZE1muCRkV6qYCoX42VC81.jpg

Will the next TT on par with the Boxster, never never not, it's a fancy VW Golf, not a sportcar.

[AndyBG]

On these TT/A3 subjects, I have to agree with The P' 100%...

Basicly, all Golfs from Mk4 untill today are very simmilar, in technical point of view, so the same case is with TT. If Audi looks at it self as a premium and serious factory, one of their most popular coupes, in this case TT, has to be more sofisticated, more serious car than this!

[The Pretender]

You can buy a Scirocco and have in big lines the same car minus the aluminum body and the fancy Audi design.

Audi made a big mistake in the past, Audi showed the world the quattro spider.

http://istenbizony.hu/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/1991_Audi_Quattro_Spyder_Concept_Cutaway.jpg

But desided to choose the TT for production over the quattro Spider from a design point of view.

This was not the big mistake back then, the big mistake back then was to build the TT on a Golf floorplan instead of building it on the quattro spider florrplan.

[AndyBG]

Transversal engine here to, but this would make much more sense! :)

I totaly forgot about it, I had a pic's of it in some sticker album when I was kid!

2.8 V6, 250 ps, predesecor of todays 3.0 T! :p

[The Pretender]

The quattro spider was a running concept and there where two of them, a Orange and Green version.

http://blog.jpblogauto.com/public/vintage1/audispyder02.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_JzUx44lr8WA/SJJoiYSDGZI/AAAAAAAABrc/av3mWsqbRUw/s400/audi%2Bquattro%2Bspyder.jpg

[The Pretender]

They made it running the most simple way possible, with a longitudinal V6 and a FWD gearbox mounted tranversly and using the front wheel drive axles to feet front and rear axles.
The production version would get a longitidinal mounted transverse 1.8T engine with 200 hp and used the same way axle wise.
The drive shafts that normaly drive the front wheels would drive the front and rear axle with there own diff to transver the power to the right and left wheels.
The central diff would always provide the power to the axle with the most grip.

[The Pretender]

btw, The Autocar article is pullet out of a past article ditch.
The picture posted back then was this one.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1brPstk3JVY/TzQPaO-FL9I/AAAAAAAAkuM/NNYjLEQ95s8/s1600/2014-audi-tt.jpg

[Joker]

If the TT was to be equipped with a longitudinal engine it would be an A5 and would cost a lot more, so basing it on a Golf was financially the right thing to do and this continues to be the case. Also the Haldex in the S3 might or might not be different but until somebody drives it we don't really know if anything has improved though I'm willing to bet the new chassis is a far better starting point.

I believe Audi like all companies are bumming up their chat about it offering Boxster dynamics, it can never offer its level of involvement or adjustability but then no other rival can either.

[chewym]

You can buy a Scirocco and have in big lines the same car minus the aluminum body and the fancy Audi design.

Audi made a big mistake in the past, Audi showed the world the quattro spider.

http://istenbizony.hu/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/1991_Audi_Quattro_Spyder_Concept_Cutaway.jpg

But desided to choose the TT for production over the quattro Spider from a design point of view.

This was not the big mistake back then, the big mistake back then was to build the TT on a Golf floorplan instead of building it on the quattro spider florrplan.

Building a mid engine TT would cost the same as a Boxster and people would bitch even more about the price and that it's not a Porsche. What was the quattro spyder platform, it wasn't an actual platform just two prototypes.

The TT competes with the SLK and Z4 (no matter what Audi says) which mostly sell on looks and style more than anything else. The TT, if it performs better than those, will be more than fine. Super drastic changes aren't likely nor would they even make sense.

And I do not like the Autocar rendering at all, too much of a hatchback look vs. that of a coupe.

[The Pretender]

Not seen any renderings/sketches that make any sense of what it could look like.

[The Pretender]

This story tells me the next TT can be some different compare to the rest.
They talk about A, R and Q lines and not about the TT.
That can mean two things, or the TT get a design of it's own or the TT gets R styling.

Audi promises greater model differentiation (http://www.worldcarfans.com/112110650221/audi-promises-greater-model-differentiation)

[tailpipe]

I wonder if Audi will surprise us all with the next TT, just like it did with the first. By that I mean, could we get a rear transverse engine TT? Now that would put the cat among the pigeons. Pretender, have you driven a TT-RS? Tell me it isn't quick. This car has dated so little since it was introduced. Audi did a fine job with it. The Mk III will be a great car. I'd much rather own a TT than a Boxter.

[The Pretender]

It is not difficult to build a fast car, Audi show that with the TT RS and RS3.
But fast is something else then performance.
8.09 min on the Nordschleife is not that good because the TT RS is not that sharp in corners and lose time there.
You need to make a lot of changes in the drivetrain, like suspension,ARB's, drivetrain bushes, and so on to get a lot sharper car.
The next TT will not much beter in that department IMHO if it get Haldex 4WD again.
The next TT RS would get 380 hp and will weigh around 1400 Kg, but i don't see it set a time under 8.00 min.
MQB can also be used the other way around, making it a transverse mid engined car, with a rear bias drive train.
But i doubt Audi will have the balls to do that.

[The Pretender]

This is the fastest street legal TT RS around the Nordschleife.
The Raeder Motorsport TT RS with 390 hp and a lot of adjustments made to the suspension, wheel/tires, and aerodynamics.
This TT RS is able to do a full lap at the ring in 7.33 Min.

http://spiritt.smugmug.com/Nurburgring/Juillet-2012/i-8QnT6J7/0/M/ring201200028-M.jpg

[The Pretender]

I would not be surprised to see a lot of these design influences back in the TT Mk3 design.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb1ul1sZym1rg3vslo1_1280.jpg

[The RS6]

This is the fastest street legal TT RS around the Nordschleife.
The Raeder Motorsport TT RS with 390 hp and a lot of adjustments made to the suspension, wheel/tires, and aerodynamics.
This TT RS is able to do a full lap at the ring in 7.33 Min.


And...it still has Haldex :)

[Joker]

And...it still has Haldex :)

I don't think Pretender is implying that the TT isn't quick because it uses Haldex only that it stop it from being that enjoyable. ;) He might be right though I reckon he's a little premature in saying so without anyone having driven it. :thumb:

[The Pretender]

The TT RS is not the kind of car that you can pin-point into a corner the way it should be, it always drift wider.
It's basically a front wheel drive car with synonymous drive characteristics.
In simple therms you have to go in slow to get out fast, enter a corner to fast and you loose grip big time.

[chewym]

MQB can also be used the other way around, making it a transverse mid engined car, with a rear bias drive train.
But i doubt Audi will have the balls to do that.

So how does one mount an engine in section 4 easily and cheaply enough to make it mid engined?

http://www.vwvortex.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/profile1-960x466.jpg

[The Pretender]

So how does one mount an engine in section 4 easily and cheaply enough to make it mid engined?

http://www.vwvortex.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/profile1-960x466.jpg
Reed this: Intel Report: Audi R-Cars and the Future of Mid-Engine Supercars at the Volkswagen Group (http://fourtitude.com/news/publish/Features/article_6323.shtml)

[chewym]

Reed this: Intel Report: Audi R-Cars and the Future of Mid-Engine Supercars at the Volkswagen Group (http://fourtitude.com/news/publish/Features/article_6323.shtml)

I see, but what they are saying in the article is that a R3/356 sucessor/Bluesport platform would flexible like the front engined MQB, they didn't say that you can turn the Golf MQB into a mid engined platform and just by looking at the photo you can see it wouldn't be easy.

It looks like the R3/356/Bluesport platform has been scrapped or is on hold?

[Joker]

If you could turn the MQB round you would be turning the TT from a 2+2 into a proper 2 seater thus losing a lot of its practicality which is a large part of its appeal compared to most of its direct competitors.

[The Pretender]

I'm not interested in a mid engined TT or any mid engined car for that matter.
But to call the TT a sportscar the engine should be there.
The TT is at his most a sport Coupe.

[Joker]

I'm not interested in a mid engined TT or any mid engined car for that matter.
But to call the TT a sportscar the engine should be there.
The TT is at his most a sport Coupe.

The term sportscar has been misused for years and by more than Audi, what I want to know from you is what you are expecting Audi to do with the TT to improve it to make it acceptable to you. If you say mount the engine differently and connect it to the conventional Quattro system then you might as well call it an A5 so you need to accept it needs to have Haldex and move on from this argument.

[The Pretender]

You can't get a real 4WD system with a transverse engine layout, because the main power is send to the front wheels and they tap in to that to get some power to the rear.
With a longitudinal engine layout the main power go to the rear wheels and they tap into that to get power to the front wheels.
The most power comes from the axle that is in line with the engines crankshaft.
The FWD race TT RS looks like a much better driving car, because al the power is always on the front wheels.
The problem with the Haldex system is, when you loose front grip you also loose front power because it move to the rear.
If you have only FWD only with a LSD it only moves from right to left and the other way around and you keep always the power at the front.
Im absolutely certain that if you remove the hole Haldex system from the TT RS and put in a LSD you get a much better car to drive.
If you see how good the FWD race TT RS is with 440 hp on the front wheels.

[The Pretender]

btw, the change that i will buy a TT Mk3 is most likely very small or non existent if the rumours are truth that the next TT Mk3 will be S-Tronic only. (S and RS almost certain S-tronic only)

The face-lifted R8 does have only one manual gearbox option and that is only with a basic R8 V8 all the other models are S-Tronic only.
Further are all S and RS 4 and 5's S-Tronic only.
I hate non manual gearbox cars and if the day comes that there are no cars anymore with manual gearboxes i stop driving cars and take/buy a monkey to do it for me.

[The Pretender]

http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/071/9/d/audi_concept_by_bostaddesign-d4sjtck.jpg

[tailpipe]

btw, the change that i will buy a TT Mk3 is most likely very small or non existent if the rumours are truth that the next TT Mk3 will be S-Tronic only. (S and RS almost certain S-tronic only)

The face-lifted R8 does have only one manual gearbox option and that is only with a basic R8 V8 all the other models are S-Tronic only.
Further are all S and RS 4 and 5's S-Tronic only.
I hate non manual gearbox cars and if the day comes that there are no cars anymore with manual gearboxes i stop driving cars and take/buy a monkey to do it for me.

Maybe you'll be getting one of these instead:

http://cdn3.worldcarfans.co/2012/1/21/large/20338959571535795000.jpg

[The Pretender]

No thank you, not a Porker fan.

[AndyBG]

No thank you, not a Porker fan.

One thing we don't agree about... :)

[andreadebi]

what do you think of this render by italian mag Quattroruote?

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http://www.quattroruote.it/auto_novita/immaginebig_articolo.cfm?codiceimg=470847&codedicola=450368&codice=399545&codarticolo=399545&tornaa=/notizie/auto-novita/audi-tt-piu-muscoli-per-la-terza-generazione

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http://www.quattroruote.it/auto_novita/immaginebig_articolo.cfm?codiceimg=470845&codedicola=450368&codice=399545&codarticolo=399545&tornaa=/notizie/auto-novita/audi-tt-piu-muscoli-per-la-terza-generazione

[AndyBG]

To optimistic... IMHO

[The Pretender]

That is based on the thought that the quattro concept was the new design direction.
The new Audi A3 is the last build car in the old design language the next TT and Q2 will be the first cars in the new design language, first seen with the Crosslane Concept.

[tailpipe]

I think the Crosslane Concept is nothing more than a rehash of the Steppenwolf concept shown 10 years ago. I find the styling ugly with many awkward angles and fussy details that take away from the overall effect. It's trying too hard and seems to be different merely for the sake of being different.

Prior to the first TT, Audi's styling was so inoffensive it had become bland. The TT took it in an entirely new direction. The Bauhaus language introduced by Freeman Thomas et al, was sensational - totally radical and fresh. As for the interior, it set new standards. It was a fabulous car. The A2 that followed was equally adventurous and really put Audi's design on a pedestal. The new B6 A4 that followed didn't quite capitalise on the TT and A2, but was nevertheless a well resolved and appealing car.

The metamorphosis that followed is interesting. Initially, I wasn't a fan of the new 'gaping mouth grille'. But gradually it has evolved along with the belt line crease to create a new and elegant language for the brand. The A1 is a very attractive car. You can see why Audi would want all of its models to echo the same design themes. Today, Audi's line-up has a coherence that reinforces the image very well - just as BMW did before the arrival of Chris Bangle.

Back in 2002, BMW was criticised for its cookie-cutter approach to styling. It too reacted by introducing what it described as a 'bold new direction'. When I saw the 9-Series concept followed by the X-Coupe, I was horrified. Pig ugly. While BMW continued to grow, sales were driven by its engineering pedigree not the attractive of its styling. Having owned an E46 BMW M3, I couldn't bring myself to replace it with the car that followed. Many other customers also defected to Audi and Mercedes as a result. BMW's styling misdirection allowed other brands to catch-up. Big mistake from Munich.

I just hope that Audi isn't going to have its own BMW moment. Junk the Crosslane Concept and do something elegant, understated and consistent with what you already have, guys.

[The Pretender]

I have big doubts about future Audi design with "Wolfgang Egger" in charge.
IMHO, Egger is Audi's "Chris Bangle" with this CrossLane Concept design.

[chewym]

The Crosslane styling will be used on the Qs which should be boxier than they are now. If anything Audi made a mistake by giving the Q7 (and to lesser degrees the Q5) car/avant based styling that just doesn't work as well on that size profile. I don't think TT and future A vehicles will be as influenced by the Crosslane. The R8 might but once again some sharp lines would not be out of place there either.

[The Pretender]

http://victordiemer.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/tt23.jpg

[The Pretender]

I still hope for a sharper Bauhaus style TT Mk3.


This is my all time favored TT sketch, it was a preview for the TT Mk2 by Huckfeldt.


http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/3739/auditthuckfeldt.jpg


This is 100% pure TT-ness IMHO.

[The Pretender]

http://lh5.ggpht.com/-8ZVEESaNiEA/UKf2pYIc2fI/AAAAAAAKHl0/AHVFI1sanHQ/s1600/Audi-Quattro-1%25255B12%25255D.jpg

[The Pretender]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me77aaPTQw1r6ozwao1_r2_1280.jpg

[The Pretender]

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/6973/auditt2014.jpg

[The Pretender]

http://www.audiblog.nl/wp-content/Diverse-Audi-Design-1.jpg

[The Pretender]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-VfnAhGhJXCI/TlVY89qJdmI/AAAAAAAAA78/Bdvk8FKkqVA/s1600/audi_tt_liviu_tudoran.jpg

[The Pretender]

http://www.audiblog.nl/wp-content/TT-rendering-03-2012.jpg

[The Pretender]

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h112/Porsche-Power/audiTT2014_zps52a4999b.jpg
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h112/Porsche-Power/audiTT20141_zps906007ed.jpg

[ChicagoAudi]

Why is one not surprised? Another useless photoshop.

[The Pretender]

Why is one not surprised? Another useless photoshop.

And we still haven't a clue what to expect from the next TT,
But it will be Audi's biggest challenge to create the ultimate next generation TT.
And most will not like it, or most will love it, or most do not care what it will look like.

[The Pretender]

Next-Generation Audi TT to Move Upmarket and Narrow Gap to R8 – News – Car and Driver | Car and Driver Blog (http://blog.caranddriver.com/next-generation-audi-tt-to-move-upmarket-narrow-gap-to-r8/)

[chewym]

Next-Generation Audi TT to Move Upmarket and Narrow Gap to R8 – News – Car and Driver | Car and Driver Blog (http://blog.caranddriver.com/next-generation-audi-tt-to-move-upmarket-narrow-gap-to-r8/)

Was just about to post that, good news in that article.

[tailpipe]

I understand that the TT-RS will be getting 380 bhp while being 70 kg lighter than the outgoing model. Still want that Cayman?

[The Pretender]

What Will the Next-Gen 2014 Audi TT Be Like - autoevolution (http://www.autoevolution.com/news/what-will-the-next-gen-2014-audi-tt-be-like-54129.html)

[The Pretender]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v707/mypics3236/2014AudiTT-1.jpg

[The Pretender]

http://cardesigncommunity.com/_stock/works/part_0/4906/_orig.jpg

[The RS6]

that looks awesome IMO.

[The Pretender]

Looks a bit look a child from a "Audi quattro Concept" father and an "Audi A7" mother. ;)

[The Pretender]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-lJnqzqKTLs8/UNh2_y7FC0I/AAAAAAAACZw/T9kDuH9flB4/s1600/6a10005401339+copy.jpg

[The Pretender]

http://www.fourtitude.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/audi-tt-mqb-render-fourtitude.jpg

Next-Generation Audi TT Intel #fotoshopfriday - Fourtitude.com (http://fourtitude.com/news/audi-rumors-renders-spy-photos/next-generation-audi-tt-intel-fotoshopfriday/)

[AndyBG]

This looks like a possible direction for next TT...

[ChicagoAudi]

The linked Fourtitude article is very informative. However, the new Boxster/Cayman are incredibly capable cars.

[The Pretender]

I don't like the step-in Porsches, the 991 Carrera 4S PDK is something else.

[The Pretender]

New Render.

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/4040/audittmk3.jpg

[The Pretender]

I want mine in red please.


http://25.media.tumblr.com/00d3c6e23836033658fcbbfb58a4c46b/tumblr_mj3fo33m841rn9xfdo1_r1_1280.jpg

[tailpipe]

Pretender,

I think you're artist impression is probably quite close to what Audi will want to achieve, at least conceptually: True to TT's DNA but with more than a hint of Quattro concept and something that points to a new Audi Audi design language.

But we mustn't forget that the original TT didn't stick to anyone's preconceived ideas of what a sporting Audi should be like. It took the brand in a totally different direction. It was a show car that was so well received that Audi just had to build it.

So, I hope that Audi throws out the rule book again. My brief to the designers would simply be: give me a flat-out gorgeous-looking car based on the MQB platform.

(BTW, are you the only person posting things on this website these days? Where is everyone?)

[ChicagoAudi]

One reason for so few postings here is that there is little news available on the MK III TT.

[The Pretender]

Made a little upgrade and try to give it more TT specific wheel arches.


http://25.media.tumblr.com/fde060fbcbdf4c4ce4bfef037d6d5e17/tumblr_mj3fo33m841rn9xfdo1_r3_1280.jpg

[The Pretender]

Second upgrade, and better wheel arches.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/a9db0e269dcaf03257481439fc1a09e9/tumblr_mj3fo33m841rn9xfdo1_r6_1280.jpg

[The Pretender]

Another step forward.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/53d6cc67299321259e10d61161b4585c/tumblr_mjcrzlfOZ51rn9xfdo1_r2_1280.jpg

[The Pretender]

The most ultimate TT will be the "TT RS Ultra", here a render.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/d42186e883c0126e400abb9cf212b50a/tumblr_mje42oMl1E1rn9xfdo1_r3_1280.jpg

[The Pretender]

Here a basic Mk3 Audi TT RS with pop-up spoiler in poster style.


http://25.media.tumblr.com/b8a5df8cbaf89a4714dfad0f09bfbdb0/tumblr_mjggaeokS91rn9xfdo1_1280.jpg

[The Pretender]

One reason for so few postings here is that there is little news available on the MK III TT.

The strange thing is that in German car magazines there is no mention about the next TT.
The newest "Autobild" have a Audi future article with new A1, new R8, new Q2 and new A4, but there is no mention what so ever about the next TT.

[The Pretender]

My latest more realistic attempt.
Change the seam of the bonnet and moved it above the wheel arch.
Also put on more realistic size wheels.
And made it a "TT RS Ultra" again in vibrant lambo style green. ;)


http://24.media.tumblr.com/4e12a98f78c9e643fcde742a4f9b07aa/tumblr_mjrgwrryFb1rn9xfdo1_1280.jpg

[The Pretender]

Apparently Audi is still testing with the same mule.
These are recently take pictures in sweden.
Seeing this mule still being tested in cold weather explanes the rumored 6-months delay.


The latest info sugest a 2014 Geneva introduction at the earliest.


http://fotos.autozeitung.de/750x562/images/bildergalerie/2013/03/Audi-TT-2015-Erlkoenig-Mule-1.jpg
http://fotos.autozeitung.de/750x562/images/bildergalerie/2013/03/Audi-TT-2015-Erlkoenig-Mule-3_0.jpg
http://fotos.autozeitung.de/750x562/images/bildergalerie/2013/03/Audi-TT-2015-Erlkoenig-Mule-3.jpg


http://www.autozeitung.de/erlkoenige/audi-tt-2014-erlkoenig-mule-prototyp-roadster-2015-gn-399476

[The Pretender]

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/3594/newaudittsketchreleased.jpg

[The Pretender]

Where has that link go. ???

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/3594/newaudittsketchreleased.jpg

[The RS6]

That's a sketch that's more than two years old...

[The Pretender]

That's a sketch that's more than two years old...
The original was. ;)
Now it has been updated.

[The Pretender]

2015 Audi TT Future Car | Consumer Guide Auto (http://www.consumerguide.com/audi/tt/2015/)

[The Pretender]

Audi TT: designer gives clues to styling of third-gen sports car.

The designer of the third-generation Audi TT has provided a number of hints to the styling of the upcoming sports car.
Head of Volkswagen Group design Walter de Silva told CarAdvice, the final design of the next-gen Audi TT has been officially signed off ahead of its launch in 2014.
De Silva revealed the third-generation compact sports car draws inspiration from the original, Peter Schreyer-penned TT and his own second-gen follow-up (below), while also introducing some fresh design elements.
“We have come back to some strong elements like the first, but at the same time we don’t lose the elegance of the second,” de Silva said.
“The first was too much, and the second was maybe too [little], and now we have done a combination.
“The car looks TT, 100 per cent, but in a different way. You will see.”
The design chief said the new TT would stand out from the existing Audi portfolio, yet maintain what he called an “iconic” signature style.
“The new one for me is better because we drove the personality, especially in the front [it] is really different to other Audis…
“From the side and from the rear it retains the character of TT.”
De Silva highlighted quality and attention to detail as key areas of improvement for the third-generation TT over the outgoing model.
The new Audi TT will add to the growing list of vehicles sharing the Volkswagen Group’s versatile MQB platform, joining the likes of the Audi A3, Volkswagen Golf Mk7 and Skoda Octavia.
The new chassis will be lighter and stiffer and feature a longer wheelbase, as Audi targets improved weight distribution and superior ride and handling.
The car’s lighter weight will also lead to improved fuel consumption from its entirely turbocharged petrol and diesel powertrain line-up.
Launched back in 2006, the second-generation Audi TT will be close to eight years old by the time it is replaced by the all-new model next year.

[The Pretender]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/ab638cb208b0c99ec45ff1ef5612a8e7/tumblr_mkft4pClpB1rn9xfdo1_500.jpg

[tailpipe]

Reading between the lines of Walter da Silva's latest interview on the subject of the next TT and various other snippets of info coming out of Ingolstadt, this rendering seems pretty close to what the rumours predict about the next TT: very much the same proportions as the Mk 1 and 2 in terms of cabin / glasshouse shape, but returning to the elegant Bauhaus simplicity of the Mk 1 while retaining the elegant balance of the Mk 2. I interpret that to mean that the way in which the C-pillar is linked to the shoulder line will be like the Mk 1. The front end is likely to feature the next evolution for Audi's single-frame grille. Whatever, I am expecting a spectacular new TT visually.

Dynamically, I expect the TT-S to launch at the same time as standard 2.0-litre petrol and diesel versions. But also expect the TT-RS to arrive very quickly with a reworked version of the current 5-cylinder 2.5-litre unit. Audi has to improve its economy and power. I expect 380 bhp and 38-40 mpg in the combined cycle. What they'll do to achieve that remains to be seen. A 350 bhp 2.5 five won't cut it if it only offers 30 mpg - the Mercedes-Benz A-Class A45 has set a new benchmark and Audi will have to respond. I am sure the TT-S will get 300+ bhp, but the TT-RS must get near 400 bhp. If a reworked five can be an equivalent of the new EA888, then it will be a very fine engine indeed.

Finally, I expect the interior design to move up another notch too. If the TT can deliver all this and still undercut the Cayman by 20%, it will be doing well, especially if the rear seats are a bit more usable. I expect Audi will throw lots of new tech in its direction.

I am eagerly anticipating this car.

[The Pretender]

This can be interesting: http://blog.caranddriver.com/audi-design-undergoing-massive-shakeup

[The Pretender]

I wonder what suspension system Audi will use on the new Audi TT Mk3.
The Mk2 TT use besides a conventional suspension also Magnetic Ride.
I would expect that Audi will switch to an optional DRC (Dynamic Ride Control) system as used in the new B8 RS4 Avant, which uses diagonally opposed pairs of shocks linked by hydraulic lines and a central valve, meaning that the car can level out more efficiently under load by keeping extra control of the front outside wheel when you're really going for it.
Magnetic Ride is not that versatile as DRC is.


http://images.caricos.com/a/audi/2013_audi_rs4_avant/images/1600x1200/2013_audi_rs4_avant_86_1600x1200.jpg

[tailpipe]

This can be interesting: http://blog.caranddriver.com/audi-design-undergoing-massive-shakeup

Everyone who criticises Audi's design seems to forget one very important reason why Audi persists with its current styling cues: customers like the way their Audis look. BMW really lost market share through Chris Bangle. BMW would be a much bigger company if it hadn't got its styling so wrong IMO.

So we can definitely expect Audi to introduce new styling elements, just don't expect them to throw the baby out with the bath water. The TT Mk 2 has aged very well. It certainly doesn't look dated. I for one want it to evolve not radically change.

One thing you are right about is that it should get DRC. I hope the next RS3 gets it too.

[The Pretender]

Now a days Audi styling is boring IMHO.
It is all to same with little to no differences.
Only the R8 and TT stand out the rest is just plain soulless.

[The Pretender]

http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/5619/workinprogressn.jpg

[andreadebi]

any possibility to tranfersomething into the new TT from this one?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hFNsvYVbvls

[The Pretender]

any possibility to tranfersomething into the new TT from this one?

Most likely a lot of CFRP parts will find its way to the TT Mk3.

[The Pretender]

Very nice Retro NSU styling.

http://imageshack.us/a/img69/8133/audittreworked.jpg

[tailpipe]

Pretender, it's about time you showed us what the next TT is going to like. Surely, it must be close to launch now?

When do you think it will be shown? Geneva 2014 or Frankfurt this year?

[The Pretender]

Pretender, it's about time you showed us what the next TT is going to like. Surely, it must be close to launch now?

When do you think it will be shown? Geneva 2014 or Frankfurt this year?
This year we will not see a new TT, if there will be one at all.
It's over 6 months a go, we last saw a old body style TT mule.
Between new body style mules and introduction there is always a minimum of 6 months.
We haven't seen any new body style TT mules so far, so even Geneva 2014 will be a close call.
If there still will be a next TT, it will certainly not show before Geneva 2014, but more likely Paris 2014, IMHO.

[The Pretender]

Have no idea what it will look like.

[The Pretender]

Apparently Audi is still testing with old style mules. (July 2013)

http://spiritt.smugmug.com/Nurburgring/Mulets-2013/i-zPhNDsj/0/XL/mulets201300255-XL.jpg

[The Pretender]

First Sketch leaked. ?

[RXBG]

I like where this is going. I really like that powerful lower inset along the side that will accentuate the fender flares. Nothing screams futuristic more than the original TT's fender bulges around the wheels. So Bauhaus. If this is a real official sketch looks great already. lLso, in not trying to rerad too much into it if this is the next TT I can't wait to see how chiseled the new R8 will be.

[Erik]

That looks a bit tired...

[ChicagoAudi]

I like where this is going. I really like that powerful lower inset along the side that will accentuate the fender flares. Nothing screams futuristic more than the original TT's fender bulges around the wheels. So Bauhaus. If this is a real official sketch looks great already. lLso, in not trying to rerad too much into it if this is the next TT I can't wait to see how chiseled the new R8 will be.

Perhaps this Audi developed "concept" for Ender's Game is that preview of the next generation R8. Of course, the sweeping windscreen is not possible for a road-going vehicle, but the basic design elements are even represented in the attached, purported TT sketch. Audi, with the Crosslane concept had also introduced the angular/linear lines into its design language. Also notice that the Egger designed C7 A6 is a bit more angular and taut than the slightly earlier A7.

This link is one of the best on the Ender's Game concept:

http://io9.com/audi-designed-this-badass-concept-car-for-enders-game-1065016554

[The Pretender]

I found it here: headerbild_Trend_996x160_dreier_quadratisch.jpg (996×160) (https://www.audi-mediaservices.com/publish/ms/storage/default/topics/t4_lifestyle.-bin.acq/qual-HeaderImage.Single.Image/headerbild_Trend_996x160_dreier_quadratisch.jpg)

[ChicagoAudi]

Now the question becomes is that sketch the new TT or the new quattro sport?

http://www.autobild.de/artikel/audi-quattro-sportwagenstudie-iaa-2013-4315919.html

It's possible, based on falling small sports coupe sales that Audi will move the TT more upscale and closer in performance to the R8 than it is now positioned and rename it.

[The Pretender]

The quattro sport will still in big lines look like the 2010 quattro Concept.

Also the roof line on the sketch looks round like the TT.

[The Pretender]

Audi TT RS in 2016 on the street. ???

[The Pretender]

2014 TT Mk3. ???

[ChicagoAudi]

2014 TT Mk3. ???

If so, it is rather disappointing and too derivative of the Mk II, a car that lacks the presence of the original.

[AndyBG]

Looks possible to me...

[The Pretender]

Another picture.

[ChicagoAudi]

Another picture.

That looks more like an A4.

[The Pretender]

https://www.transportationdesigners.com/designer-portfolios/content/64/102/ivvolkovaudi2_1366737420.jpg


https://www.transportationdesigners.com/designer-portfolios/content/64/102/ivvolkovaudi1_1366737365.jpg

[Erik]

They really need to reinvent the TT for me to look at it.

[The Pretender]

They really need to reinvent the TT for me to look at it.

Not go to happen.
I think the next TT will be a dissapointment design wise.
Don't expect much more then a facelift like design upgrade.

[ChicagoAudi]

Not go to happen.
I think the next TT will be a dissapointment design wise.
Don't expect much more then a facelift like design upgrade.

The TT should help usher in the new design grammer of Audi for the next decade, so I would be surprised if it was a mere facelift. The TT has ushered, in both generations new design language and technology in the higher volume products. The first with the laser welding technology, for example, and the second with the aluminium/steel hybrid space frame concept.

[chewym]

First spy shots of the actual production body.

http://img3.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Erlkoenig-Audi-TT-fotoshowImage-bd50c677-729986.jpg

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/bilder/neuer-audi-tt-2014-neuer-audi-sportler-erwischt-4417360.html#fotoshow_item=0

[ChicagoAudi]

The hard crease between the C Pillar and the upper section of the rear fender, similar to that found on the MKI, is clearly visible. The nose of the car looks even closer to that found on the R8; however, some sources suggest that Audi is moving to vertical, and no longer horizontal, vents on the lower section of the nose. The MK II R* is not too far away and it will be interesting to see how much of the electrical architecture, i.e., instrument cluster, will be shared between this two cars, and potentially with that of the Gallardo replacement.

[RXBG]

the back half of this car reminds more of the gen 1. I like it. brings back so many good memories.

[The Pretender]

Looks more like a old body with new front and rear end on it.
Here pictures with spoiler up.

Audi TT 2014: Erlkönig zeigt scharfes Sport-Coupé - autozeitung.de (http://www.autozeitung.de/erlkoenige/2014-audi-tt-coupe-erlkoenig-sportwagen)

[The Pretender]

+ Interior.

:vhmmm::vhmmm::vhmmm:

Worse then ever before.

2015 Audi TT Coupe spied with undisguised interior on the Nürburgring (http://www.gmotors.co.uk/news/2015-audi-tt-coupe-spied-with-undisguised-interior-on-the-nurburgring/)

[ChicagoAudi]

+ Interior.

:vhmmm::vhmmm::vhmmm:

Worse then ever before.

2015 Audi TT Coupe spied with undisguised interior on the Nürburgring (http://www.gmotors.co.uk/news/2015-audi-tt-coupe-spied-with-undisguised-interior-on-the-nurburgring/)

That's not the production interior. Instead, that is the interior from an A3 fitted for testing. For example, notice the gaps in the section to the left of the IP switch gear and the gap between the IP and the door card.

Audi does realize that the TT requires a bespoke cabin to justify the price differential above the A3/S3.

[The Pretender]

Video: Audi TT 2014 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/embed/lFi2efxySwE)

[The Pretender]

2015 tt rs.

[The Pretender]

With some changes.

[The Pretender]

Made something new.

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/9141/j4ao.jpg

[The Pretender]

TT Render.

[ChicagoAudi]

TT Render.

The lower side vents should be more vertical, as seen on recent Audi concept cars, than the more horizontal elements shown in this PS.

[The Pretender]

Next TT.

[The Pretender]

http://fourtitude.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/tt-mk3-cover.jpg

[chewym]

Next TT.

This concept should give a really good idea of what the TT will look like. Like the TT shooting brake concept did for the current TT.

[The Pretender]

Made a new one.


Better wheel arches, less crossover.


http://imageshack.us/a/img811/3313/2wjo.jpg

[The Pretender]

Made a new one.


Better wheel arches, less crossover.


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[The Pretender]

TT in Miami.

[The Pretender]

2014 Detroit Concept Interior. ???
Next TT. ???

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[ZeroCool]

Yes, could be.

The new TT will be the first AUDI with a display :)

[AndyBG]

So, here is the inside of it...

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1089527_2015-audi-tt-interior-previewed-at-ces

[Ruergard]

Of the big display I'm not sure, but otherwise that looks fantastic! I love those temp gauges for the ac...

[The Pretender]

More here: http://ces.cnet.com/8301-35289_1-57616835/audi-gives-early-look-at-2015-tt-cockpit

[trev0006]

more pics

Audi Next Generation TT interior
http://www.dpccars.com/gallery/var/thumbs/Audi-Next-Generation-TT-interior/200x133x.album.jpg,qm=1389140265.pagespeed.ic.H6qW yLETb_.jpg (http://www.dpccars.com/gallery/index.php/Audi-Next-Generation-TT-interior)
http://www.dpccars.com/gallery/index.php/Audi-Next-Generation-TT-interior

[The Pretender]

I like the interior, but the outside will be dead boring.

[The Pretender]

The next TT should have his own face.

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[The Pretender]

http://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/gallery/medium/moar-2015-audi-tt-spyshots-photo-gallery-medium_3.jpg

http://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/gallery/medium/moar-2015-audi-tt-spyshots-photo-gallery-medium_5.jpg

http://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/gallery/medium/moar-2015-audi-tt-spyshots-photo-gallery-medium_8.jpg

Source: http://www.autoevolution.com/news/moar-2015-audi-tt-spyshots-photo-gallery-75753.html

[The Pretender]

2015 Audi TT spied with minimal camouflage.

http://content.worldcarfans.co/2014/2/6/big/1168498601952483568.jpg

http://www.worldcarfans.com/114020669828/2015-audi-tt-spied-with-minimal-camouflage

[ChicagoAudi]

Bland, bland, and bland.

[The Pretender]

Bland, bland, and bland.

Did you expect any thing else from Audi. ???
Audi design has become so boring, no imagination at all.

[The Pretender]

http://www.audiblog.nl/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Audi-TT-Mk3.jpg

[Ruergard]

This does look a bit boring, c'mon Audi. Give us something like the first gen TT.

[The Pretender]

This does look a bit boring, c'mon Audi. Give us something like the first gen TT.

Not go to happen, Audi is all about the same boring design over the entire range.
And they realy F#cked up the roofline with this 3th gen TT.

[ChicagoAudi]

Better be some major improvements in performance to make up for the bland appearance. However, one doubts that will happen. This car is quickly becoming an oversubscribed cliche.

[The Pretender]

This will be close, IMHO.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7340/12525803535_7570d381b0_o.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3668/12525803295_cd6fe648f4_o.jpg

[ChicagoAudi]

This will be close, IMHO.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7340/12525803535_7570d381b0_o.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3668/12525803295_cd6fe648f4_o.jpg

Hope not. That kink in the C-pillar is very awkward.

[Ruergard]

Not go to happen, Audi is all about the same boring design over the entire range.
And they realy F#cked up the roofline with this 3th gen TT.

I have to agree with you, but I do think the rest of the Audis look good these days. But I was hoping for something different with the TT.

[Ruergard]

Not go to happen, Audi is all about the same boring design over the entire range.
And they realy F#cked up the roofline with this 3th gen TT.

I have to agree with you, but I do think the rest of the Audis look good these days. But I was hoping for something different with the TT.

[The Pretender]

I have to agree with you, but I do think the rest of the Audis look good these days. But I was hoping for something different with the TT.

All Audi's are dull and that's why Audi is doing so well by the masses, herd people seem to like them very well.

[ChicagoAudi]

I have to agree with you, but I do think the rest of the Audis look good these days. But I was hoping for something different with the TT.

The TT Mk 1 set the design standard that Audi has yet to replicate with the second, and now the third generations. Audi can maintain some of the iconic design grammar yet advance the overall design language.