Guess why we never had the 2004 RS6 and the plus in the USA?

[DHall1]

Ditto for C6 RS6.

Ever wonder why we kept getting the 2003 RS6 well into 2004 and we never got the 2004 RS6 and the plus?

Hmmmm

We can only thank Al Gore and his band of raving idiots at the EPA.

Returnless fuel systems were mandated in 2004. The same stupid system that the Mercedes E55 owners are having a hell of a time with and gas leaks are pouring out of every seal in the gas tank. Including my E55.

Read up on it.

Audi said no way to the redesign on the RS6 and sold as many 03s as they could then stopped USA sales of the RS6.

Same reason we didnt get the C6 RS6.

Made my day. Some government green suit at the EPA decided to mandate a stupid fuel delivery change and make all cars comply. The same guy that wants to tap CO2 sensors on our homes, cars, shops, stores, factories, pigs a$$es....you get the idea.

[p3u]

Hey, at least we don't have to worry about man-bear-pig ;)

[DHall1]

Yeah, until he starts up the CCX and starts charging carbon credits to every business in the country.

Did you get those logs yet?

[DHall1]

Actually that is a good point. I may dump the E55 and trade for another RS6 while they are still avail. Hmmmm

[V8weight]

Well, we can't have the Henry's buying fancy Audi's when they have a country to support. Just get in your Impala and keep paying. On a related note, I believe you've hit this nail on the head.

[GEN XER]

"We The People" Will be assimilated! Resistance is futile. The America you know and love is gone and in 50 years you wont recognize her. Out with the old and in with the new. Your small pockets of resistance will prove insignificant against the machine. The revolution has happened and we lost. We cant fight those who protect this Nation against all threats Foreign and Domestic. I mean when American companies are no longer owned by Americans, and there is a forum for RS6 owners some who paid 90K for their cars You have been assimilated. Even if I buy the new JGCSRT8 its owned by Fiat. So I get a gas guzzler (Resistance) but I'm supporting Italy's Economy. It is done. You can complain, but no one is listening.

[ben916]

"We The People" Will be assimilated! Resistance is futile. The America you know and love is gone and in 50 years you wont recognize her. Out with the old and in with the new. Your small pockets of resistance will prove insignificant against the machine. The revolution has happened and we lost. We cant fight those who protect this Nation against all threats Foreign and Domestic. I mean when American companies are no longer owned by Americans, and there is a forum for RS6 owners some who paid 90K for their cars You have been assimilated. Even if I buy the new JGCSRT8 its owned by Fiat. So I get a gas guzzler (Resistance) but I'm supporting Italy's Economy. It is done. You can complain, but no one is listening.

what he wrote...

[JRS-RS6]

59 days till November 2nd.........

[DHall1]

I agree with the 59 days but is there really any choice. As Willie has noted, we are well down the road to serfdom. Fannie and Freddie own over 95% of all private mortgages. And how did Fannie and Freddie get to this ownership? Printed FIAT money. And who owns F/F? Mr Green suit.

You cant go up against printed FIAT money.

Willie-I know you know about Allen West. Is he for real? Can he make a difference?

We can be happy about one thing. At least we have the C5 RS6 so keep the shiny side up.




"We The People" Will be assimilated! Resistance is futile. The America you know and love is gone and in 50 years you wont recognize her. Out with the old and in with the new. Your small pockets of resistance will prove insignificant against the machine. The revolution has happened and we lost. We cant fight those who protect this Nation against all threats Foreign and Domestic. I mean when American companies are no longer owned by Americans, and there is a forum for RS6 owners some who paid 90K for their cars You have been assimilated. Even if I buy the new JGCSRT8 its owned by Fiat. So I get a gas guzzler (Resistance) but I'm supporting Italy's Economy. It is done. You can complain, but no one is listening.

[Hy Octane]

This was known back in 2003.

[gooseleg]

Why can't we keep the politics out of this forum.

[DHall1]

When its the government mandates that keep us from having the performance vehicles from Audi we crave. I found it funny that I stumbled on this little known fuel EPA mandate. Sorry it got switched to the current economy and state of housing in this country. I made it a point not to bash any particular side just bring up the EPA and the stupid returnless design. People are sure touchy around here. geez


Why can't we keep the politics out of this forum.

[DHall1]

This?

You mean the EPA fuel return line mandate?

I found this thread from back in 04. The third reply makes a comment about the emission change but not exactly the reason.

http://www.rs6.com/showthread.php/2975-RS6-production-stopped?highlight=2004+RS6+usa


This was known back in 2003.

[Aronis]

Why can't we keep the politics out of this forum.

I am always intrigued when someone asks this question.

I have found that the folks on this forum are pretty intelligent and up to date on many issues. Also as Car Fans are somewhat like minded. So why not have a political discussion among FRIENDS???

It's the bury one's head in the sand approach that lead to Obama being elected!

"Can't we just get along and not talk politics on this site?" That's usually the montra of a leftist who strikes down alternative viewpoints simply by stopping the dialogue. "I won. No more discussion on this or that topic" Sound Familiar?

I for one think a political conversation among those who frequent this forum would be VERY INTERESTING! Especially from our colleagues who are not in the US!

How's that European Socialism working out for you?

Mike

[DHall1]

I challenge anyone on policy debate, economics, business models, finance, cash, bonds, securities....ect. Bring it on folks. Those that want Americans to keep their heads in the sand are about to meet some resistance. Win or lose there will be an educated debate even if MSM wants to keep us all dumb. What I dont know....I know who to call.

But just as Benman has pointed out....this is a private space and we need to obey the laws in this space. So I will obey but I dont see how talking about the EPA or Fannie Mae is "politics" . Who knows. Its just funny that the green suits actually stopped the RS6 imports. Nice to know that fact.




I am always intrigued when someone asks this question.

I have found that the folks on this forum are pretty intelligent and up to date on many issues. Also as Car Fans are somewhat like minded. So why not have a political discussion among FRIENDS???

It's the bury one's head in the sand approach that lead to Obama being elected!

"Can't we just get along and not talk politics on this site?" That's usually the montra of a leftist who strikes down alternative viewpoints simply by stopping the dialogue. "I won. No more discussion on this or that topic" Sound Familiar?

I for one think a political conversation among those who frequent this forum would be VERY INTERESTING! Especially from our colleagues who are not in the US!

How's that European Socialism working out for you?

Mike

[gooseleg]

I am always intrigued when someone asks this question.


It's the bury one's head in the sand approach that lead to Obama being elected!

"
Mike

I give up!!

[DHall1]

Its so true its funny. No qualifications at all. Brilliant.

Blatant falshoods? Surgeons making 50k to cut off feet? Try 1,500 and that includes pre and post op care visits.

Nope, fully qualified.

[GEN XER]

I agree with the 59 days but is there really any choice. As Willie has noted, we are well down the road to serfdom. Fannie and Freddie own over 95% of all private mortgages. And how did Fannie and Freddie get to this ownership? Printed FIAT money. And who owns F/F? Mr Green suit.

You cant go up against printed FIAT money.

Willie-I know you know about Allen West. Is he for real? Can he make a difference?


We can be happy about one thing. At least we have the C5 RS6 so keep the shiny side up.
The one thing that I have seen in 20 years of service and 6 deployments is that it does not matter who we vote for, when they get in office they either conform or they get castrated. Allen West is another guy who says all the right things then gets elected goes to Washington and is assimilated into the machine that is American Politics. Nov 2nd will come we will vote for those who we think will change things, they will go to Congress and be told how to play ball and they will conform. 1989 Under Bush 1 I was sent to Panama, Under Clinton I was sent to Haiti twice, and Iraq, Under Bush 2, I was sent to Iraq twice, and now Obama will have us in Afghanistan for God knows how long. Dems are not suppose to be War Fighters but under each Dem I was sent to Iraq. Rep are not suppose to raise taxes but Bush 1 did that and Bush 2 just sold the damn farm. So like I said it doesn't matter who is in office, they all play by the same rules. No one person can change our political climate in America.

[DHall1]

Willie you make some valid points. All I can say is this. The next time you are in Phoenix, AZ. Beer, golf and test rides are all on me. The machine can try to tax me into the dirt but they will not take my RS6 away from me nor keep me from chasing little white balls. They yelled at me today for hitting the range balls out past the outer marker. They get pissed when people do that. hehe


The one thing that I have seen in 20 years of service and 6 deployments is that it does not matter who we vote for, when they get in office they either conform or they get castrated. Allen West is another guy who says all the right things then gets elected goes to Washington and is assimilated into the machine that is American Politics. Nov 2nd will come we will vote for those who we think will change things, they will go to Congress and be told how to play ball and they will conform. 1989 Under Bush 1 I was sent to Panama, Under Clinton I was sent to Haiti twice, and Iraq, Under Bush 2, I was sent to Iraq twice, and now Obama will have us in Afghanistan for God knows how long. Dems are not suppose to be War Fighters but under each Dem I was sent to Iraq. Rep are not suppose to raise taxes but Bush 1 did that and Bush 2 just sold the damn farm. So like I said it doesn't matter who is in office, they all play by the same rules. No one person can change our political climate in America.

[rks838]

Gooseleg, I completely agree with you. Let's keep M3s in the "All other performance vehicles" section, and politics in the "Politics" section...of rs6.com. This is usually quite the intelligent forum, I agree, but notice how none of this is an intellectual debate, but individual ranting? "I challenge anyone" jesus christ, run for office if you're that fed up...

When was the last time you guys saw an even slightly productive conversation about politics, especially online?

[gooseleg]

Gooseleg, I completely agree with you. Let's keep M3s in the "All other performance vehicles" section, and politics in the "Politics" section...of rs6.com. This is usually quite the intelligent forum, I agree, but notice how none of this is an intellectual debate, but individual ranting? "I challenge anyone" jesus christ, run for office if you're that fed up...

When was the last time you guys saw an even slightly productive conversation about politics, especially online?

I'm here to talk about the Beast not politics. Besides if Audi wanted us to have the car they would have made the changes. BMW and Mercedes did it. How was Audi able to produce the 04 A4, A6, Alroad and TT were they exempt from the changes?

[DHall1]

I'm sure you benefit if folks keep their head in the sand. Its also nice to see RS6 input from members that post once every 3 months. Glad you could add to the content. Oh save the personal attacks and herrings.

This makes it much clearer. Call me when you pay 80k a year in taxes, actually work and pay for a RS6 and then watch as your government hands out cash for clunkers(4.5k), cash for caukers, cash for golf carts(8k),free 50k loans for deadbeat mortgages, 180 Billion to AIG, 60 Billion to GM. Then watch as the money you saved your entire life goes up in smoke when inflation kicks in to pay the national debt or when fat cat suits decide to tax your dividend payments at 40% when you already paid taxes on the money that you invested so that US companies could grow the economy. You can call me up and debate the topics then. Sir.

"20, I've never owned an RS6. I used to speak as if I were my dad on this forum(rks838) :) "




Gooseleg, I completely agree with you. Let's keep M3s in the "All other performance vehicles" section, and politics in the "Politics" section...of rs6.com. This is usually quite the intelligent forum, I agree, but notice how none of this is an intellectual debate, but individual ranting? "I challenge anyone" jesus christ, run for office if you're that fed up...

When was the last time you guys saw an even slightly productive conversation about politics, especially online?

[DHall1]

You should educate yourself on the subject.

Audi was not exempt.

Audi would not redesign the fuel system of the RS6 to meet this stupid EPA mandate.

Mercedes did the redesign and its a massive failure. E55s are leaking fuel of the gas tank like crazy. Owners are having to replace very expensive level sensors because they keep leaking gas. The same redesigned level sensors to comply with the EPA mandate.

Do you see a trend yet?

Audi said no way to the redesign of the RS6 fuel system and stopped imports.

Audi was able to comply(A4,S4,A6,AR,A8) by coming up with a neat little fuel filter that also served as a pressure regulator that diverted the fuel back to the tank and thus made the EPA happy. But this design was no way able to provide the volume of fuel the RS6 needed and Audi would not take that chance.

Is that enough RS6 content for the uneducated.


I'm here to talk about the Beast not politics. Besides if Audi wanted us to have the car they would have made the changes. BMW and Mercedes did it. How was Audi able to produce the 04 A4, A6, Alroad and TT were they exempt from the changes?

[gooseleg]

You should educate yourself on the subject.

Audi was not exempt.

Is that enough RS6 content for the uneducated.

Hence the question mark at the end:
How was Audi able to produce the 04 A4, A6, Alroad and TT were they exempt from the changes?

Thanks for educating me!

Is this VWV**tex?

[DHall1]

No problem on my end. I was happy to educate you. The thread was fine till your PC comment was fired off. The thread was hardly off topic and into the weeds up to that point. Once that was said the fireworks started. Even members that post once every two months jumped in. Kinda fun how far PC gets us. I have plenty of popcorn. If you want VWvortex then go there. You have the choice to ignore the slightest tone of EPA rant or government mandate without calling foul. I mean really. You're selling your car anyways right?

http://i1039.photobucket.com/albums/a476/drh11/popcorn.jpg


Hence the question mark at the end:
How was Audi able to produce the 04 A4, A6, Alroad and TT were they exempt from the changes?

Thanks for educating me!

Is this VWV**tex?

[DHall1]

Does anyone else need more popcorn. I have plenty.

http://i1039.photobucket.com/albums/a476/drh11/popcorn.jpg


I'm sure you benefit if folks keep their head in the sand. Its also nice to see RS6 input from members that post once every 3 months. Glad you could add to the content. Oh save the personal attacks and herrings.

This makes it much clearer. Call me when you pay 80k a year in taxes, actually work and pay for a RS6 and then watch as your government hands out cash for clunkers(4.5k), cash for caukers, cash for golf carts(8k),free 50k loans for deadbeat mortgages, 180 Billion to AIG, 60 Billion to GM. Then watch as the money you saved your entire life goes up in smoke when inflation kicks in to pay the national debt or when fat cat suits decide to tax your dividend payments at 40% when you already paid taxes on the money that you invested so that US companies could grow the economy. You can call me up and debate the topics then. Sir.

"20, I've never owned an RS6. I used to speak as if I were my dad on this forum(rks838) :) "

[p3u]

Actually that is a good point. I may dump the E55 and trade for another RS6 while they are still avail. Hmmmm

This week for sure, been delayed on getting the vag com.

[surferdude]

Does anyone else need more popcorn. I have plenty.

http://i1039.photobucket.com/albums/a476/drh11/popcorn.jpg

Dave, I love popcorn!!! And even better are your posts, keep up the good work!:applause:

[Benman]

Why can't we keep the politics out of this forum. Because Erik is out of town and I am lazy...

[Benman]

But just as Benman has pointed out....this is a private space and we need to obey the laws in this space. Correct.

But DHall's thread is not PC per se, it is about reasons we got screwed.

[skribe]

I worked with GM in 2006-2008. I will tell you that they did not deserve your bailout check, and you're about to get screwed again on their "IPO." If you don't understand that some of us are getting bent over and f-ed by the government right now then you're just not paying attention.

I lived through Carter and 55 mph national speed limits as a kid. We'll live through this. In 1978 my Dad ordered up a W72 Pontiac Formula Firebird with a 4-speed... One of 800 in that config. Smogged, choked, and legislated into less than 200 hp... But he had his buddy the Pontiac dealer put in a holley 650, a hot cam, cat delete pipes, and do a smog pump delete in the back room... built-in fuzzbuster and CB too. 55 my ass. My dad was a neurosurgeon and an ER doc. When he did get pulled over, he just let the officer know that he was on the way to the hospital, worked every time.

Thirty years later, I vote with my right foot and escape frustrating bullshit the same way he did. At least we can still sort of do that... In Australia, you have your car impounded and crushed for speeding. In the UK, speed cameras crawl out of every crack like the taxman's cockroaches. In other parts of europe, you can be fined tens of the thousands of dollars for traffic offenses, based on your ability to pay.

Wake up, more government is not better. Read your US history. Your founding fathers were what you would call a libertarian today.

And don't forget to vote.

[DHall1]

Do ya think he would run Aces in that Pontiac today? hehe Cool story and you know I agree with your economic and other views. That was a cool car back in the day. He should have dropped in one of the Ram air IV engines. Did you see IL bonds are actually rated worse than CA right now? That is simply amazing.

We all better thank our lucky starts that Audi was able to make the batch of "03" labeled RS6s in time to beat the EPA man and his stupid mandate. Because if you think about it....all these cars should have been 04s with their build dates so late in 03. And also thank Audi for sticking to the tested and proven fuel delivery system and not some hack job design rushed to meet this stupid EPA mandate like Mercedes Benz. Trust me when I say that you will see a class action suit on E class vehicles and or E55 vehicles sometime in the near future. Gas leaks from the gas tank and more specifically the stupid sending unit assemblies that seal the crappy returnless design. Watch out as the EPA is now acting as a political arm of the green suit monster and looking to add tax structure to CO2 emissions even without Cap and Trade. Why? Because we all know that CO2 is dangerous to your health. Oh boy.

Oh yeah, I vote with my golf clubs. F'em all, I'm going golfing. Pile the clubs in the Audi, crank the tunes, enjoy the 500hp and hit some balls, let the cockroaches tax that. Oh yeah, AmuletS6 and I have at the money Puts on XOM and it gapped down and further headed down today. Go get the clubs loaded up.

[Benman]

Just an FYI as Dave already pointed out. This being Erik's House, we need to keep it non politically related. Bonds and stocks fall under "finance" so I doubt Erik will have any issues whatsoever with those.

But we need to axe the "voting with my..." comments along with "how is the socialism working for you..." comments.

Whether I agree with them or not is irrelevant. :cheers:

Ben

[MaxRS6]

.... Go get the clubs loaded up.

Good idea- why didn't I think of that sooner???- I'm outta here to chase the ball around, digest the above, and daydreams of a better world. I think I'll take Ozzy with me..;0

[ben916]

I think I'll take Ozzy with me..;0

the one from comic con?

[DHall1]

Daydream of a drain in every green where the cup is. Any ball hit on the green will drain right down into the cup.

Doh

Then remember it takes 1,000 practice shots with every wedge to dail in your distance to 6ft. Ahhhh, but the 110yd wedge shot stuck to 6ft keeps you coming back for more. Not everyone can do it.


Good idea- why didn't I think of that sooner???- I'm outta here to chase the ball around, digest the above, and daydreams of a better world. I think I'll take Ozzy with me..;0

[rks838]

My apologies for being so juvenile.

[Benman]

Can't speak for anyone else, but I certainly did not think you were being juvenile. ;) :D

You were just trying to keep a car forum talking about cars. :cheers:

Ben

[ben916]

Daydream of a drain in every green where the cup is. Any ball hit on the green will drain right down into the cup.

Doh

Then remember it takes 1,000 practice shots with every wedge to dail in your distance to 6ft. Ahhhh, but the 110yd wedge shot stuck to 6ft keeps you coming back for more. Not everyone can do it.

"thank you very little"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xNFPaPor8A

[skribe]

Whoops, yeah, just like a few too many beers with your pointed-headed relative after thanksgiving dinner, the politics creep into the discussion and ruin everything.

But back on topic (ish) I have a friend who had an E63 that was in the dealer 20 times in the first two years and always smelled like gas. He successfully got it lemoned and picked up a Panamera turbo and is extremely happy with it so far.

And he wishes he could buy a C6 RS6 avant... but he cant. :(

PS: One way you and I differ, Dave, is that I've been sitting on XOM since I bought at 30! :vhmmm:

[DHall1]

If it were only that easy. Just remember "shaken not stirred". hahaha

Doing my part for the economy. Golf Galaxy stores in AZ and TX are closing. Got me a new set of Taylormade irons for a steal. Burner TP 3 wood as well. Look out idjuits!!!!!!

edit: hehe I only buy what works. I have a older model Burner driver TP and none of the new ones come even close to shots on line that I can hit with that sucker. I need to buy an extra before Golfsmith runs out of them. When you can pick up a Taylormade 4 iron and hit 3 dead straight 195 yard shots without any effort I would tend to agree with you Skribe. Steel shafts forever.


"thank you very little"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xNFPaPor8A

[skribe]

Uh - oh. That's creepy. I bought the very same clubs this summer. So forgiving, you will feel like a hero.

[DHall1]

Oh, I have some of those too. LVS at 9 bucks. :-)

The Calls and Puts are just play money options for short term flips.

Mercedes has a huge problem and it centers around the fuel level sensors inside the tank. Literally they back a$$ designed the fuel system completely inside the gas tank. Both fuel pumps, fuel pressure regulator, level sensors, hoses, tubes, wiring, you name it its inside the gas tank. Audi on the other hand took a different route. They kept the fuel pump in the tank only and designed a fuel filter/pressure regulator unit as one just outside the tank then added a third nipple for a short return line to the tank. That way the EPA was happy and Audi's dont have the hodge podge of parts pumping up a storm inside the gas tank.

Max leave the 3 nipple jokes at the door please.



Whoops, yeah, just like a few too many beers with your pointed-headed relative after thanksgiving dinner, the politics creep into the discussion and ruin everything.

But back on topic (ish) I have a friend who had an E63 that was in the dealer 20 times in the first two years and always smelled like gas. He successfully got it lemoned and picked up a Panamera turbo and is extremely happy with it so far.

And he wishes he could buy a C6 RS6 avant... but he cant. :(

PS: One way you and I differ, Dave, is that I've been sitting on XOM since I bought at 30! :vhmmm:

[MaxRS6]

the one from comic con? How did you know??? Thanks for sending Ozzy to me Ben!- LOL

Ozzy arrives at the course while his RS6 gets fitted with a new wiring harness...

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz195/MaxRS6/Ozzy%20at%20Emerald/DSC03937.jpg?t=1283908293

Ozzy on the second hole par 3.

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz195/MaxRS6/Ozzy%20at%20Emerald/DSC03931.jpg?

Overlooking the next par 3. Does anyone want to guess what function those two contraptions on top of the pipe perform??
Second, WTF is this pipe doing on a golf course??

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz195/MaxRS6/Ozzy%20at%20Emerald/DSC03932.jpg?t=1283908293

Just for fun
http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz195/MaxRS6/Ozzy%20at%20Emerald/DSC03934.jpg?

Ozzy lines up a putt on #4
http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz195/MaxRS6/Ozzy%20at%20Emerald/DSC03935.jpg?t=1283908293

Ozzy makes it home with a legit 1 under scorecard on this 9 hole short course (play the white tees first nine, then switch to blue tees for the second trip around on the same nine). Ozzy had a good day!

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz195/MaxRS6/Ozzy%20at%20Emerald/DSC03940.jpg?t=1283908823

[V8weight]

Randy, pissing myself laughing. The pipe, hmm. To transport the bullshit a safe distance from the clubhouse?

[MaxRS6]

Dude, I just dont get it.

+1- I enjoy the information and conversation on the environment we must operate to drive our vehicles. Everyone can either digest (or not) the information and participate (or not) in such discussion.

I think Aronis states it very well


I am always intrigued when someone asks this question.

I have found that the folks on this forum are pretty intelligent and up to date on many issues. Also as Car Fans are somewhat like minded. So why not have a political discussion among FRIENDS???

If done properly, such discussions could be beneficial to most (will never satisfy 100%).

[V8weight]

When I joined, there were no jackasses on this forum! Keep your politics, popcorn, and general hostility to yourself. You've made an immature ass of yourself.Haha, that's just too funny. Well, for starters, when you joined, there weren't any members on this forum pulling the motors out of their cars and solving problems either. I don't think the first home timing belt change was performed until a year ago. Forums change, take the good with the bad. Cheers.

[MaxRS6]

Pat swings and.....hits it out of the park...LMAO

[DHall1]

Hey Hey Hey

THREADJACK!!!!!!

What have you guys done to my perfectly good off topic personal rant about the EPA and stupid a$$es that took our RS6s away from us?

I gotta go pee I'm laughing so hard

69 my a$$. Where is the sign off on that card. On second look those greens are pancake flat. Where is the beef and the difficult shots?

Clearly we add no RS6 content and detailed information for others to make educated decisions on RS6 care. Clearly.

http://i1039.photobucket.com/albums/a476/drh11/Thermostatdiy.jpg

[MaxRS6]

...69 my a$$. Where is the sign off on that card. On second look those greens are pancake flat. Where is the beef and the difficult shots?[/SIZE] [/SIZE]

KEEP ON RANTING SO WE CAN CONTINUE IGNORING...LOL- Yep 69 it was for Ozzy- short 9 hole course, easy greens, not many sand traps. Still requires golf shots to keep it in play and accuracy to hit the greens. It is located at Fort Roots in North Little Rock. It is an old fort that was used to defend the central Arkansas area as it is located on one of the higher areas. Fort Roots now operates as a VA hospital and the golf course is used by some of the patients for rehab. I've heard quite a few good stories out there when I somtimes have the opportunity to join up with some of them. I thank all the vets (my dad included) for all they do and have done to protect our family. It is a fun little course to work on the game. Ozzy finised 18 holes in about 2 hours flat yesterday as he had the course practically to himself.

A picture of the view (not from the course but another part of the Fort) looking down on the Arkansas river. I did not take the pic and snagged it off a local site..;0

The RS6 routinely traverses me up the hills to my little peace on earth where noone rants about OT topics!



http://photosofarkansas.com/wp-content/uploads/08_13_09_work_no2_for_lightroom2-1024x682.jpg

[MaxRS6]

[QUOTE=MaxRS6;196227]Overlooking the next par 3. Does anyone want to guess what function those two contraptions on top of the pipe perform??

Second, WTF is this pipe doing on a golf course??

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz195/MaxRS6/Ozzy%20at%20Emerald/DSC03932.jpg?t=1283908293

Pat- ya were right on target. It is an old sewer pipe that runs through the course. The pump house is just out of the picture. When they built the course, they just went around it. The old folks tee box and ladies tee box requires the golfer to duck under the pipe as you can see in the pic. How many courses requires that maneuver?

The grates on top of the pipe (I wondered for a couple of years before finally just asking)- are there to keep idjuits from "Walking the Pipe". Apparently, some thought it was fun to walk on top of the pipe. After a few had fallen (broken bones and other injuries), they welded the grates on top to try to prevent idjuits from themselves. Maybe the EPA was involved and insisted on some sort of new fuel system that I heard the E55's copied....;0

[JRS-RS6]

+1 for Randy!

[ben916]

How did you know??? Thanks for sending Ozzy to me Ben!- LOL

Ozzy arrives at the course while his RS6 gets fitted with a new wiring harness...

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz195/MaxRS6/Ozzy%20at%20Emerald/DSC03937.jpg?t=1283908293

Ozzy on the second hole par 3.

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz195/MaxRS6/Ozzy%20at%20Emerald/DSC03931.jpg?


Just for fun
http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz195/MaxRS6/Ozzy%20at%20Emerald/DSC03934.jpg?

Ozzy lines up a putt on #4
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Ozzy makes it home with a legit 1 under scorecard on this 9 hole short course (play the white tees first nine, then switch to blue tees for the second trip around on the same nine). Ozzy had a good day!

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I hope I wasn't laughing too hard in the office!

I knew Ozzy, in the right hands, would be put/putt to good use!
I eagerly await the video(s) of Ozzy donuts in the Walmart parking lot on PS2's on Ice (entertainment weekly rated last years performance "...4 stars!!" )

On Topic - damn E55! maybe some "international trade" might help the situation - example - you trade your highly rare and super potentially hot E55 in Mexico for a boring ol' Audi station wagon only available IN Mexico... presto, E55 problem solved, station wagon problem solved, early Xmas problem solved!

[DHall1]

I hear ya Ben. The E55 is fine for now because everything was replaced in the tank. So we have about 1 1/2 yrs before we need to start worring again. The E is such a blast to drive when its right that I hate to sell it. Keep an eye out for a low mileage AR or S6 avant.

[Erik]

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[JSRS6]

On a side note: I actually went to the stealership recently to get some of those belly pan captive screws, and when they put my vin in to the system, it came up as a 2004 audi rs6 build sep/03. Lol

[Bigglezworth]

Ditto for C6 RS6.

Ever wonder why we kept getting the 2003 RS6 well into 2004 and we never got the 2004 RS6 and the plus?

Hmmmm

We can only thank Al Gore and his band of raving idiots at the EPA.

Returnless fuel systems were mandated in 2004. The same stupid system that the Mercedes E55 owners are having a hell of a time with and gas leaks are pouring out of every seal in the gas tank. Including my E55.

Read up on it.

Audi said no way to the redesign on the RS6 and sold as many 03s as they could then stopped USA sales of the RS6.

Same reason we didnt get the C6 RS6.

Made my day. Some government green suit at the EPA decided to mandate a stupid fuel delivery change and make all cars comply. The same guy that wants to tap CO2 sensors on our homes, cars, shops, stores, factories, pigs a$$es....you get the idea.Audi did the redesign and updates - just sold the cars to Canada at the inflated rates. Again, the reasons you cite along with the additional modifications to meet stricter standards for crash test efforts saw the 2004 model in Canada top 140K for base sell price. Would have liked to been able to get into a +, regardless of whether I needed to import from the US or not.

[skribe]

Funny. My car is also a very late build.

Non-car people ask me all the time what year it is, (the s5 wheels and cosmetic mods throw them off) and they always seem disappointed when I say '03.

Maybe I can tell the idjuts it's an '04 and they'll feel one year less bad for me that I drive such an "old" car.:lovl:

[DHall1]

Tim,

When looking into this EPA returnless system. I looked at the parts files for the 2004 RS6. The fuel system is the same as the 2003. Canada may not have mandated the returnless for 04 or maybe there was a work around and ETKA does not show the Canada fuel system.

On a side note. You have 10secS4's old RS6 right? Pat and I have been working on some log ideas that may solve some members issues. Would you be willing to data log a 3rd gear pull with the Vag Com? If so you could log. 3,31,115 logs


Audi did the redesign and updates - just sold the cars to Canada at the inflated rates. Again, the reasons you cite along with the additional modifications to meet stricter standards for crash test efforts saw the 2004 model in Canada top 140K for base sell price. Would have liked to been able to get into a +, regardless of whether I needed to import from the US or not.

[JSRS6]

Funny. My car is also a very late build.

Non-car people ask me all the time what year it is, (the s5 wheels and cosmetic mods throw them off) and they always seem disappointed when I say '03.

Maybe I can tell the idjuts it's an '04 and they'll feel one year less bad for me that I drive such an "old" car.:lovl:

I get the same reactions, maybe ill start saying mine is an '04. I mean, if its in the Audi database as an '04, then who am i to argue...

[Bigglezworth]

Tim,

When looking into this EPA returnless system. I looked at the parts files for the 2004 RS6. The fuel system is the same as the 2003. Canada may not have mandated the returnless for 04 or maybe there was a work around and ETKA does not show the Canada fuel system.

On a side note. You have 10secS4's old RS6 right? Pat and I have been working on some log ideas that may solve some members issues. Would you be willing to data log a 3rd gear pull with the Vag Com? If so you could log. 3,31,115 logsIt is possible they didn't mandate the returnless on the RS6 specifically, but I do know they did on the other Audi models. I will see if I can dig up anything at the local dealers to confirm otherwise.

I do have Marc's custom tune yes. For the third gear pull, I'd be more than happy to get the data you desire with a Vag Com. Are you looking at specific speeds/RPM to pull from/to? Just set the criteria and I will log it.

[V8weight]

It is possible they didn't mandate the returnless on the RS6 specifically, but I do know they did on the other Audi models. I will see if I can dig up anything at the local dealers to confirm otherwise.

I do have Marc's custom tune yes. For the third gear pull, I'd be more than happy to get the data you desire with a Vag Com. Are you looking at specific speeds/RPM to pull from/to? Just set the criteria and I will log it.
It's pretty easy to tell if you have the returnless fuel system. Is your fuel pressure regulator on the fuel rail? Then no. On the logs, just a WOT pull in either 2nd or 3rd gear. Probably just all of 2nd would do, as all of 3rd brings you up to about 110mph.

[Bigglezworth]

It's pretty easy to tell if you have the returnless fuel system. Is your fuel pressure regulator on the fuel rail? Then no. On the logs, just a WOT pull in either 2nd or 3rd gear. Probably just all of 2nd would do, as all of 3rd brings you up to about 110mph.Yes - I know that. Both of my RS6's are the US model. I know someone with the CDN release and will look at seeing if they have the FPR on the rail or not.

[V8weight]

Yes - I know that. Both of my RS6's are the US model. I know someone with the CDN release and will look at seeing if they have the FPR on the rail or not.
Oh, OK. I assumed that your first car was a CDN model. It'll be interesting to know if the 2004 model is indeed the same.

[DHall1]

Very good,

Set the log blocks to 3,31 and 115. As Pat noted above a 2nd gear pull from 2500 to redline is just fine. Send me the data and I will give you a report on what we are working on. Currently waiting on a couple of other members to report logs and then I will open up the results for debate. Oh yeah, if your willing to also run the Vag on your stock RS6 that data is also needed.

Thanks, it may give you a snapshot of the current state of tune for both cars.

Dave


It is possible they didn't mandate the returnless on the RS6 specifically, but I do know they did on the other Audi models. I will see if I can dig up anything at the local dealers to confirm otherwise.

I do have Marc's custom tune yes. For the third gear pull, I'd be more than happy to get the data you desire with a Vag Com. Are you looking at specific speeds/RPM to pull from/to? Just set the criteria and I will log it.

[Bigglezworth]

Will get this done over weekend.

[DHall1]

Or you could go off the deep end like me and start ranting about the EPA? I wont own a newer performance vehicle unless 100% sure the fuel system design is stable for the long term. Enjoy your bailout GM plastic rattle can. I will keep my Audi.

As for the folks that snub the "old" 2003.....How many new cars have hand made all aluminum twin turbo engines putting out over 500hp yet get over 20mpg that you can drive every day without any problems? Have brakes big enough to stop a school bus, suspension designed to take hwy on ramps at 3 times the legal speed limit and finally leather so rich as soft that Ricardo Montalban could only dream of owning. Then I say..."lets go for a ride, eh?"



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vsg97bxuJnc



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Funny. My car is also a very late build.

Non-car people ask me all the time what year it is, (the s5 wheels and cosmetic mods throw them off) and they always seem disappointed when I say '03.

Maybe I can tell the idjuts it's an '04 and they'll feel one year less bad for me that I drive such an "old" car.:lovl:

[MaxRS6]

...69 my a$$. Where is the sign off on that card. On second look those greens are pancake flat. Where is the beef and the difficult shots?[/SIZE] [/SIZE]

Another card for you with an actual sign off from a retired military officer- I trust his credentials are better than mine...;0 This was a big boy course at the Little Rock Air Force base. It was a great day, weather perfect, and the slow groups actually let us play through. I still have time to go play another 18 before the sun goes down. Life is good and I may get the RS6 back today with new wiring harness.

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[DHall1]

Ok,

We are set to go and Jim wants some of this action. You spot us 6 shots and we takeoff.

:-)

6:45am tomorrow. First low in the 60s in more than 5 months. 68° at t time and nothing but sun. I think its time get the beast out and whip some booty.


Another card for you with an actual sign off from a retired military officer- I trust his credentials are better than mine...;0 This was a big boy course at the Little Rock Air Force base. It was a great day, weather perfect, and the slow groups actually let us play through. I still have time to go play another 18 before the sun goes down. Life is good and I may get the RS6 back today with new wiring harness.

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz195/MaxRS6/Ozzy%20at%20Emerald/DSC03942.jpg?t=1284145195

[MaxRS6]

Oh if I were only in the area- Sounds like a great day and hopefully we'll be able to pull it off some day.

Looking forward to the weekend myself. I'm in a "Cheeseburer in Paradise" golf tourny Sunday with my mom and dad. 3 person scramble with a lot of Jimmy Buffett atmosphere- Margaritas, great music, and not caring too much which of the blurry balls (my Margarita goggles create) that I should try to hit...Hmm is the real ball in the middle or the one to the right or left??? Oh hell- just swing!....;0

[Amulet-S6]

Randy... 69? 74? come on, I know you're a CPA and have LOTS of free time, but that's a bit hard to swallow. Perhaps that's your beer consumption? You still going to Heartland Park for the PCA driving event? It seems like your car spends more time at the dealer than your home.

Dave's treating us to AZ golf. Let's pick a weekend and take him up on it. Is the San Diego-rs6 coming over also? (How about that Chiefs victory over the chargers last night!!!)
I'm playing Southern Hills (Tulsa) and Prairie Dunes (Hutchinson, KS) back to back at the end of the month Hope my rs6 is out of the shop by then. Can't fit my clubs in the trunk of my wife's Ultimate Tanning Machine (325cic) What an uncomfortable ride.

Anyone upgraded the waste gates on our turbo's? Had a tuner suggest it while my car is down.

Keep Smiling, Jim

[DHall1]

Hey, wait a minute. Who said I was buying? If Randy posts 74 scores he spots us 6 shots. Actually he spots me 16 shots. I shoot 90. haha, yeah that sounds more like it.

I told ya Jim wanted some of this action. Heading down to Dove Mtn this morning. Geez its early....gotta run.

I say no to the upgraded wastegates. It opens up a huge can of worms. The turbine housings are small on our cars. Thats why we have a hard time holding boost to redline. You cant get around that fact by adding stronger springs to the trap door. It will screw up other areas and run the risk of overheating your turbine housings and cracking them. I say no to WG upgrades.

But what the hell do I know.

Look out idjuits.


Randy... 69? 74? come on, I know you're a CPA and have LOTS of free time, but that's a bit hard to swallow. Perhaps that's your beer consumption? You still going to Heartland Park for the PCA driving event? It seems like your car spends more time at the dealer than your home.

Dave's treating us to AZ golf. Let's pick a weekend and take him up on it. Is the San Diego-rs6 coming over also? (How about that Chiefs victory over the chargers last night!!!)
I'm playing Southern Hills (Tulsa) and Prairie Dunes (Hutchinson, KS) back to back at the end of the month Hope my rs6 is out of the shop by then. Can't fit my clubs in the trunk of my wife's Ultimate Tanning Machine (325cic) What an uncomfortable ride.

Anyone upgraded the waste gates on our turbo's? Had a tuner suggest it while my car is down.

Keep Smiling, Jim

[ben916]

Hey, wait a minute. Who said I was buying? If Randy posts 74 scores he spots us 6 shots. Actually he spots me 16 shots. I shoot 90. haha, yeah that sounds more like it.

Look out idjuits.

Ima 136... does anyone have a spare set o' clubs? T's? golf balls? shoes? caddy? pretty much everything involved with golf...

[MaxRS6]

I helped the handicap today as I shot a freakin 85! Just one of those days...

However; not complaining as I appreciate having my health and the ability to get out on the course on a beautiful September day...;0

The RS6 did get me back home in record time though...00

[254TT]

85! 90! 71 spot me 6! i don't think I like this forum anymore...

Ben; I got all the stuff you need and you can have it! I gave up golf a year ago and will never pick up the sticks again. The game sucks; ball is way too small and the clubs too sensitive!! Shoot; I can't even do Wii Golf; now Wii Frisbee golf; that i like.

As far as I am concerned; when golf evolves into using a softball and modified sledgehammers; maybe I will be back in. Until that point; little guys can keep the game...

[ben916]

...The RS6 did get me back home in record time though...00

proof.... :)

[DHall1]

Bye.

Its called skill, concentration and patience.

After 6 posts (edit: 4 posts) you no longer like RS6.com?

Uhhhh, sorry. Oh yeah, its my thread as well.

Dove Mtn sucks! I hate Nicklaus courses! The friggin greens are impossible to hit in reg and putt from. Crazy pin placements and 190yd approach shots. Dammit. 77 from a 2 man scramble best ball. My drives were epic, approach shots sucked, short game saved our a$$.


85! 90! 71 spot me 6! i don't think I like this forum anymore...

Ben; I got all the stuff you need and you can have it! I gave up golf a year ago and will never pick up the sticks again. The game sucks; ball is way too small and the clubs too sensitive!! Shoot; I can't even do Wii Golf; now Wii Frisbee golf; that i like.

As far as I am concerned; when golf evolves into using a softball and modified sledgehammers; maybe I will be back in. Until that point; little guys can keep the game...

[MaxRS6]

.. i don't think I like this forum anymore...As far as I am concerned; when golf evolves into using a softball and modified sledgehammers; maybe I will be back in. Until that point; little guys can keep the game...

Nice way to welcome yourself into the group. If one can't play, just diss the sport and players to rationalize one's lack of talent. I certainly enjoy chasing the white ball around, meeting a lot of great fellow golfers, and enjoying the beauty of the game. While the forum is certainly devoted to the RS6, we do like to throw in other subjects from time to time in order to keep things interesting.

If you don't enjoy our discussions, please exit with your sledgehammer to a more appropriate forum for you

www.Real_Tool.com (http://www.Real_Tool.com).

[Jimmy]

America is the best country on the planet ... doesn't matter who is in charge, we will always be the envy of the world.

Issues aside with the C5 RS6...I thank Audi for bringing it here...and I thank the depreciation even more.

[254TT]

You are right; my attempt at sarcasm and making fun of my own lack of skill failed; nothing against the game or those that can play it; just jealous. To add to the jealousy; many of the guys posting the great golf scores also have the great cars and/or great knowledge. Sorry again it did not read well; I won't post again.

[MaxRS6]

Welllllll- I may have been overly sensitive yesterday still stingin from the a$$ kickin from my golfing friends. Stay aboard and be part of the fun so we can get to know you better. Sarcasm is difficult to interpret at times in a forum and I certainly accept your description.

Edit (thanks Ben for the poke)-

254TT- Welcome aboard the

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[ben916]

Welllllll- I may have been overly sensitive yesterday still stingin from the a$$ kickin from my golfing friends. Stay aboard and be part of the fun so we can get to know you better. Sarcasm is difficult to interpret at times in a forum and I certainly accept your description.

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