Retroquattro. Is it a fact or just a rumor?

[auditt]

I first heard the rumor about this car in early spring.

As you all probably already also have heard it´s supposed to be a tribute to the old Quattro and the 30th anniversery of quattro.

Many are guessing it's based on the A5 plattform with a straight 5 cyl turbo longitudal mounted engine - and yes of course quattro. :hihi:

The swedish magazine Auto Motor & Sport writes in an articel that they have a source in Ingolstadt confirming this and promises a 500 hp engine and a car that wheighs around 1050 kg. According to them the car will debute at the Paris Auto Show in October.

Is this true? If it is I want one. If not, who are we going to give a good beating for teasing us?

[Ruergard]

I'm still hoping for this. But I doubt it.. :(

[JavierNuvolari]

Mmmm....more like 1500kgs if it happens mate, the RS 5 is a fatty. Would be nice to see it actually happen though.

[RXBG]

where would it fit in the A5 line schema???? kind of a random introduction. however, it could make sense if it is a clubsport or "GT" version of the RS5 where they fit the 5-cyl engine in with 400 plus hp, give it DSG, and seriously lighten the weight with the know-how of the lightweight A5 mules that have been developed and shown to the press. it would have to weigh 3100-3300 lbs to make any sense. and that means a 600 lb weight loss vs the RS5.

[Lmg]

In another thread, Qisha told us that in the next two years, an RS product with the 5-cilinder TFSI with around 425 Ps and a weight of around 1500 Kg would appear.

Maybe is this one...?

[auditt]

Yes I guess that 1500kg and 425 hp is a more likely figure. We all now just like JavierNuvolari wrote, it is a fatty. And if you chiptune a TT RS engine you easily get 420 hp so thats also not to hard to believe.

Project Anniversario is a nother name for the RETRO QUATTRO and you can find som more info searching on that name. Here are som old an old articles from 2009 where the authors speculates that the crisis in the car industri has delayed the car until 2012.

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/audi-project-anniversario-delayed-until-2012-9610.html
http://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-news/audi-project-anniversario-revealed-ar77673.html
http://www.worldcarfans.com/109080720949/audi-project-anniversario-s5-quattro-due-in-2012
http://www.4ringblog.com/quattro-revival-delayed.html

My guess is thats why they have set a maximum of 333 cars. They can charge a hell of alot of money and they know that everyone will be sold (just like the R8 GT). The good thing with a fixed number of cars and a high price is that they can start to produce it sooner.

[Erik]

Something like this? :D

http://www.ziken.se/Galleri_Motorsport_2010/2010-07-03%20Gatebil%20@%20Mantorp%20Park/content/images/large/SIK_2943_copy.jpg

[auditt]

Not sure if that rear wing meats the Euroncap 5 spec. ? :D

[Lmg]

A few of the photoshops that had been around the web:

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee239/Dark_and_Divine/30th-Anniversary-op-WC3B6rthersee-2.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee239/Dark_and_Divine/p_25896.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee239/Dark_and_Divine/new-article-14_460x0w.jpg

[tailpipe]

This is the most exciting Audi news in a long time. My brother bought one of the original Quattros when they first came out and the wondrous thing about it was that no one realised how capable it was. It simply ran rings around established supercars of the period and at a price that made the competition look stupid. It was Audi''s equivalent of the Golf GTI.

So to have a modern incarnation of the Quattro, complete with in-line 5, 425 bhp in a light chassis would be superb. They have to make it. But only 333? That would be nuts. We know for sure that Audi has created a lightweight A5 platform using aluminium and carbon fibre. Hopefully it is only a matter of time before it sees the light of day.

[Erik]

Time flies. When's the celebration? (i.e. release?)

[Ricoloco]

September..... Wildcardtown in Germany..... Stand in line people.

[Ricoloco]

Sport quattro is the correct name.

[Lmg]

Those are great news! :D

[RXBG]

that is next month eh! before Paris i guess. maybe it'll be a concept.

[Ricoloco]

Audi is getting 100 years this year. Big celebration.

[RXBG]

you know what (and before i say it i know it isn't going to happen) i'd be insane over an all new quattro 5 system with some crazy thing like 4 wheel steering in a nex gen superlight aluminum/plastic composite spaceframe with a curb weight of 3000 lbs and a good old fashioned 6 or 7 speed manual gearbox (as is rumored in the 998) +/- a 7 or 8 speed DSG.

oh.....and a twincharged 5 cylinder engine with 480 hp and a combined 32 mpg.

ok. i'll wake up now.

[Mockenrue]

Audi is getting 100 years this year. Big celebration.

Wasn't that last year?

[darkop]

:vhmmm:
September..... Wildcardtown in Germany..... Stand in line people.
So, a concept study or production ready? cmon, man, we are dying here...
qisha? anyone...

[auditt]

My Audi dealer here in Sweden just got confirmation that the car will be a reality. Unfortunately no facts about it.

[auditt]

http://www.automotorsport.se/news/21406/audi-visar-r4-roadster/

Swedish Automotorsport insist on that the car will be revealed at the Paris Auto Show

[auditt]

This sure looks like a shortened A5 chassi to me! http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_FoXyvaPSnVk/TIuvo7Ij0XI/AAAAAAADSRI/zEroI3AxsLc/s800/Audi-R4-2.jpg

[Ruergard]

Oh hello....

[tvrfan]

This guy could be right :D

[tvrfan]

http://www.autobild.de/artikel/audi-anniversario-in-paris-2010-1255754.html


OMFG its fucking true look at the pics. its going to look awesome. it will be based on the new RS5 and weight will be under 3200lbs (1400kg) and with 5cylinder turbo possible to make 420hp

bye bye M3 and GTS.

[darkop]

I don't see the resemblance with the RS5! It's much smaller, based on R4-E-tron ''thing''!

[tvrfan]

nooo, its based on the RS5 but with different bodywork, shortend chassis and different style. like all future audis will be. :)

[The RS6]

If this is true, this thing will eat just about anything for breakfast lol

[Zyklon5]

This would be a very welcome change from the very understated and play it conventional rule book that Audi adopted the recent years, R8/R4 aside.

[darkop]

nooo, its based on the RS5 but with different bodywork, shortend chassis and different style. like all future audis will be. :)
So what would be the sharing parts with the RS5 then? Could you read into that article please?

[ZeroCool]

it doesn't matter what it is - it is fu**ing beautiful - some sort of BMW Z4?

and it reminds me on this posting from qisha...


the inline 5 engine has a great potential and you can assume to see the use of this engine again. A inline 5 with 415HP, 420 ft/lb mated to a 7 or even 8 speed S-tronic within a 3300 pound chassis could do the trick. :hihi:

;)

[Lmg]

it doesn't matter what it is - it is fu**ing beautiful
Quoted for Thruth.

Bring it, Audi! :D

[Zyklon5]

and it reminds me on this posting from qisha...

;)

8 Speed S-Tronic would be a new box, especially since 420ft/lb is the upper limit of torque handled by the current 7 Speed S-Tronic.

This post makes everything more plausible and sporting some nice specs.

[tvrfan]

the ground structure is the same with the RS5 i dont know how to say its like golf V and A3. in german we say "bodengruppe" ^^

[darkop]

it doesn't matter what it is - it is fu**ing beautiful - some sort of BMW Z4?

and it reminds me on this posting from qisha...



;)

Try to avoid using words: ''Audi'', ''as'', ''BMW'' together in a same sentence if you want to be remembered by a good taste! :hihi: :applause:

Anyhow, this is very promising! :jlol:

[Ricoloco]

Hehe, finally.... Based on A3 but heavily modified of course. 5 cyl engine turbocharged. A real toy, very pricey, limited edition.

[tvrfan]

sportquattro based on A3? sorry i cant believe it, all sources said it will be base don A5 / RS5. it will have the sportdifferential and thats impossible for A3 base because its using haldex ;)

[andreadebi]

Hehe, finally.... Based on A3 but heavily modified of course. 5 cyl engine turbocharged. A real toy, very pricey, limited edition.

based on the new/next A3 chassis-platform or the old one?

[darkop]

Hehe, finally.... Based on A3 but heavily modified of course. 5 cyl engine turbocharged. A real toy, very pricey, limited edition.
What do you mean? It's not going to be just a concept but the real production ready model already?!! hard to believe... This is all too good to be true!!

[Joker]

I look at these images and I must say that it looks a lot more like a shortened A5 shape than anything else, almost A5SB at the rear. But it's a little distrubing to think that this could probably be made on the platform of the A3, no matter how good the TTRS is, because I would have thought that if this car is indeed the quattro sport model being rumoured it would have used the latest quattro hardware at it's heart and not a Haldex system.

Unless this is based on the next A3 which is to drop the Haldex in favour for the new system adopted else where in Audi's range which would be an exciting thought.

[darkop]

I think what we gonna see here is actually the first implementation of newly developed mid engined platform with transversal mounting of the same, designed to be shared soon across VAG group!

[auditt]

It is possible that the Retroquattro or Sportquattro will come out of the E-tron/R4 concept. If Audi wants to celibrate 30th quattro anniversary the car must be on the market very soon. It would be silly to cellibrate something this year but not to be able to give awy the present until 2 years later :)

We also know that the R4 cannot be called R4 because Renault probably has that name copyrighted.

[Joker]

If it was to be based on the e-torn/R4 concept, surely that would mean that this car wouldn't be offered with any other engine because the whole point of the sportquattro was to rekindle the heritage of the original, another car which was a one-off unique. Different engine options would dilute it's importance in my opinion.

It's kind of like offering the GTR with a 3.7v6 and possibly a 3.0 diesel, the heritage of the GTR would instantly die too.

[darkop]

It is clearly based on R4/e-tron, shape wise... no need to bang our heads on that! What's lurking ''underneath'' is a question mark....

[tailpipe]

It is clearly based on R4/e-tron, shape wise... no need to bang our heads on that! What's lurking ''underneath'' is a question mark....

Well said, darkrop, this is the R4 or whatever Audi's production version of the VW Bluesport-based coupe is called. That means mid-rear transverse mounted engine and Haldex AWD. I don't think this car is the Quattro Anniversario. I believe that the Anniversario is an entirely different car and A5 coupe-based.

We know that a lightened version of the A5 coupe chassis has been tested and has achieved a target weight in the region of 1496 Kgs. If this is correct and Audi have fitted a longitudinally-mounted 2.5 in-line 5 cylinder engine from the TT-RS, then that could well be the formula they need to deliver RQ.

If only 333 are being produced, then I imagine Audi will want to charge a horrendous price: €150,000+. That could make a €60,000 RS3 seem cheap. And if you chipped the RS3 to get 400 bhp, you might be very close to the RQ without having to remortgage the house.

(Qisha must be enjoying our desperate attempts to predict Audi's gameplan.):hihi:

[Ruergard]

http://www.worldcarfans.com/110091728464/audi-r4-prototype-caught-a-little-closer

[SAF]

Is it just me, or does it look like there is a slightly raised hood vent in this close-up of the picture, just above the trailing point of the headlight?

http://cache-02.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/12/2010/09/r4-3.jpg

[auditt]

it sure looks like it

[Joker]

Is it just me, or does it look like there is a slightly raised hood vent in this close-up of the picture, just above the trailing point of the headlight?

http://cache-02.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/12/2010/09/r4-3.jpg

I know what you will say about dealers not knowing their arse from their elbow but I was in London yesterday and happen to call into a dealer who's sales staff made the comment that the Sportquattro would be shown in concept form at Paris with a video presentation. Maybe this is that car in this picture and the ski resort is the venue for that presentation?

[auditt]

http://www.ausmotive.com/images2/Audi-Project-Anniversario-05.jpg
http://www.ausmotive.com/images2/Audi-Project-Anniversario-06.jpg

http://www.ausmotive.com/2010/09/17/audi-project-anniversario-back-in-flight.html

[Joker]

I hope both he's front and rear photoshop drawings are wrong, that nose is as ugly as sin and the rear is even worse with the black (aka R8v10 look) insert and those rear lights, what was the man thinking.

There is two things this car needs apart for better looks than those PS is even more extension on the wheel arches and the other is a fire breathing guts churning engine/exhaust note. The 5 cylinder engine is a must for it be pay homage to the original and decent steering feel wouldn't go a miss.

P.S.
And while we are at it, beat the hell out of the competition. :hahahehe:

[auditt]

just in from paris

boring e-tron or flamethrowing retroquattro?

http://www.automotorsport.se/uploaded/image/2010/9/29/Audi_teaser06_0.JPG

[darkop]

it's there!
http://www.motortrend.com/features/auto_news/1009_audi_quattro_concept/index.html?

[Lmg]

And it's awesome!!!

[RXBG]

i was wrong. it is fresh. new. but very unsexy and uninspiring in appearance. it is too RETROmodern rather than retroMODERN. mmmh. let's see what the engine specs are. i can't swallow that design.

[darkop]

Yeah, it looks great although a bit unfinished, too sketchy... Like they did it in last minute! Maybe it's the color...

[ZeroCool]

let's wait for the final pics ... this are just photoshop pics...

[darkop]

^
What do you mean??!
This is it man! A real deal...
You can follow more here: http://yfrog.com/n9i5apj

Even more
http://www.insideline.com/audi/audi-quattro-concept-hits-aggressive-note-at-2010-paris-auto-show.html?

Enjoy!

[Ruergard]

This is a big OH YES!

[Lmg]

The more I see it, the more I love it!

And the minimalist interior is just astonishing:

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee239/Dark_and_Divine/audi-quattro-concept-interior-view.jpg

[darkop]

yes, pure sex!

There is a video at
https://www.audi-mediaservices.com/publish/ms/content/en/public/webvideo/2010/09/29/audi_quattro_concept.standard.gid-oeffentlichkeit.html

Neat...
Should we say, this all waiting finally makes sense!

[Joker]

Just read the spec of the car, well the spec that came with the photos because until Audi officially release the info I will always have my doubts. Anyway, 900lbs less than the RS5, running the same engine as the TTRS but will more boost (408PS), a 6 speed manual instead of the dual clutch but it gets the full RS5 drivetrain complete with sportdiff. No weight distribution figures but looking at the short tail overhang and the normal front I can only assume it won't be any better than the normal 56/44 percentage on the rest of the A5 range.

P.S.
I forgot to add 0-60mph in 3.9s and 33mpg.

[ZeroCool]

oh ok .... i didn't get it ... that it's already the real deal...

looks sexy :)

[Zyklon5]

For 2 years i've been complaining about the tamed styling of new Audi's and now when they deliver i find it a little quirky, probably it will grow on me. The 1300kg weight is WOW.

[Ritchy]

YES!!!!! first good surprise from Audi, since.....i can't remember.

[Lmg]

Press release in here (http://www.fourtitude.com/news/publish/Audi_News/article_6258.shtml)

And huge gallery in here (http://www.fourtitude.com/gallery/gallery2.php?mode=album&album=/Events/Paris%20Auto%20Show/2010/Audi%20quattro%20Concept)

[KresoF1]

i was wrong. it is fresh. new. but very unsexy and uninspiring in appearance. it is too RETROmodern rather than retroMODERN. mmmh. let's see what the engine specs are. i can't swallow that design.

Agree with you. It looks like a car for 18 years old kid.

Specs? Manual only? Hmm... If they build it price will be at RS5 level...

[S6V10Avant]

This was a positive surprise, but I partly agree on the design - stunning from the front and front 3/4 but a bit tame from the side and rear. Would have hoped for an even better 0-100 time and a DSG box..

[auditt]

I think its absolutely perfect. The design might be for an 18 year old but I think it appeals to all of us that feels like we are 18 inside :)

Thank you Audi!

[Qisha]

Dear Friends,

concept cars never apply to the final production version and are most of time over exaggerated. You might want to notice that the concept shows the inline 5 engine in a longitudinal layout for the first time. The manual applies to the initial Sportquattro´s setup, as well as the weight. Adding the 7 speed S-tronic is not a problem but will add some weight (~50KG).

Qisha

[Lmg]

Qisha, will the final production version have two small rear seats, like the Sport Quattro, or will it remain strictly a two-seater?

Thanks in advance.

[S6V10Avant]

Qisha, when can we order and when will the car be available ?

[tvrfan]

will the car go into production?

[tailpipe]

In a word: Gorgeous!

If this the result of Qisha listening to all our feedback about RS cars, then we have to be pleased! However, it does rather beg the question: why would anyone want an RS5 when they can have one of these? My recommendation to Audi is put this thing of beauty into production as soon as possible and please don't charge too much for it.

Very clever. Very Vorsprung durch technik. Bravo, Audi.

[rs-6]

This car is magnificent! Please bring this in production ASAP! 99.999 euro incl. VAT with all the extra's seems just the ideal price for this ;)

[tailpipe]

More like €70,000, thank you very much. I'm not paying €100K for a 5-cylinder engine.

[Ritchy]

In a word: Gorgeous!

If this the result of Qisha listening to all our feedback about RS cars, then we have to be pleased! However, it does rather beg the question: why would anyone want an RS5 when they can have one of these? My recommendation to Audi is put this thing of beauty into production as soon as possible and please don't charge too much for it.

Very clever. Very Vorsprung durch technik. Bravo, Audi.

I guess the custumers are not the same.....4 comfortable seats in a quite GT, and a real sport car, maybe with only 2 seats. Qisha, can you tell us more ? otherwise i'm going tomorrow to the motor show.

[Erik]

I'm not paying €100K for a 5-cylinder engine.

Depends on how many turbos that come with it? :D

[Ritchy]

Depends on how many turbos that come with it? :D

20.000 euros per turbo ? :)

[Qisha]

Dear Friends,

the Concept stage is well advanced. I can tell you so much, there is something coming and it is not going to take years...

Public feedback will give a outlook on presumable sale figures and tend to adjust the limitation...

Qisha

[Lmg]

Thanks, Qisha!

Those are indeed great news! :D

[tailpipe]

Qisha,

Love this car. No, I mean I REALLY love it. A work of genius. Losing so much weight, using that engine, adding the new AWD system plus the styling, which is so evocative of the original yet so fresh and unmistakably Audi, all give this car an irresistible appeal.

No DSG option?

(Please can it have the option of two small rear seats, like TT. i know this goes against the theory of a focused WRC rally car, but real-worl practicality makes it somewhat necessary.)

[Lmg]

(...) i know this goes against the theory of a focused WRC rally car(...)

For that, we have this:

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee239/Dark_and_Divine/Audi-QUattro-Rally-2.jpg

[SAF]

Qisha,
Put me down as #1 on the list for the US. This is finally the car I would trade my RS6 in on - and proudly park it in the stable next to my urq. BRING IT!

[The RS6]

I love it, it's menacing, gotta start saving $$$ :)

[darkop]

:jlol::race: Everybody does man...
Better start stealing, though... lol

[Joker]

Dear Friends,

the Concept stage is well advanced. I can tell you so much, there is something coming and it is not going to take years...

Public feedback will give a outlook on presumable sale figures and tend to adjust the limitation...

Qisha

I take it from your comments that a REAL version of this will make it to serious production relatively soon (18mths or so) but how much of the concept will remain? Will it keep the ultra light construction which will undoubtedly mean an exceedingly high price tag or will they try a look at alternative materials which will be much cheaper though more importantly retain most of the weight saving but will allow the car to be priced competitively to warrant decent numbers to be built instead of limit supply and then ending up a play thing for popstars and footballers alike.

[4everRS]

If this goes to production and doesn't come the US, I will resent Audi forever. It is really something.

[Ruergard]

for that, we have this:

This gets better and better... :D

[auditt]

For that, we have this:

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee239/Dark_and_Divine/Audi-QUattro-Rally-2.jpg


OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG :jlol: OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG :applause:

freckin awesome OMG OMGOMG..... a few hours later ....OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG....

[Marlo]

This is a great reveal and proof indeed that Audi listens to the fans who buy their cars. Lightened and shortened RS5 with the 2.5T and a manual wow!!! Hope the release is global and not priced astronomically high or in very limited numbers, the R8 awoke the competition, a more attainable SportQuattro will ensure Audi is regarded as the #1 exciting sport luxury automobile brand.

[Erik]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9B84nigov6Q&feature=related

[Benman]

^^^^^^^^^ WOW ^^^^^^^^^

That would SERIOUSLY temp me to sell the RS 6. "Power to weight ratio on par with the R8 V10"... just wow... :bow:

Ben :addict:

[Ruergard]

Yes, I wan't one!

Thanks for the video Erik.

[andreadebi]

words of Winterkorn about a production version

http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/253035/

Volkswagen Group CEO Martin Winterkorn has told Autocar he wants the firm "to do" the Quattro, with the possibility of it entering production within three years. He said the cost of putting a new body on an existing platform was between 400-500 million euro and this money would be recouped by either high volume or high prices. If it makes production, Winterkorn expects a combination of both strategies in making and selling the car: around 30-35,000 Quattro units would be made per year with a "solid price" tag.

[tailpipe]

The ability to achieve 30,000 to 35,000 units per year is directly related to price. As soon as as the price of any car goes above €100,000, volumes shrink.

[Benman]

words of Winterkorn about a production version:

around 30-35,000 Quattro units would be made per year with a "solid price" tag. Wow, there goes exclusivity ... :(

[Joker]

The ability to achieve 30,000 to 35,000 units per year is directly related to price. As soon as as the price of any car goes above €100,000, volumes shrink.

500 million euros divided by 35000 units means roughly 14K euros per car above the price of the RS5, but as they would be using a smaller engine, probably not fitting a lot of the luxuries and it has less interior trimming as it's a two seater all of which will cost less, there is a good chance the car could (in theory) cost only 8-10k euros above an RS5 or in English £6-8K more.

The possibility of a Retroquattro at £65K is something to get REALLY excited about. :jlol:

Stuff exclusivity, give us a car to match or possibly beat a 911C2/4S at the same money, only in a ultra modern package which is something that Audi are brilliant at.

[Mr Balsen]

I saw the car in flesh. It is very short compaired to an Audi A5 which is a really really beautifull car. Very short and very square if you see what I mean.

With a such short wheelbase and enough power, I can barely imagine how much fun it can be on curvy country roads...

[ben916]

For that, we have this:

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee239/Dark_and_Divine/Audi-QUattro-Rally-2.jpg

de-fookin-licious!!!

[QuattroFun]

Dear Friends,

the Concept stage is well advanced. I can tell you so much, there is something coming and it is not going to take years...

Public feedback will give a outlook on presumable sale figures and tend to adjust the limitation...

Qisha

Very nice and interesting overall. But I have two related worries:

1) Any reasonable production version will be nowhere close to 1300 kg when the smaller TT RS with the same engine and lots of aluminium in the chassis is close to 1500 kg even without DSG....

2)...or if indeed we have lots of carbon panels including brakes and buckets also in the production version, the price will by far overshoot that of the TT RS and probably even the RS5.

Hope I am wrong here.

[SAF]

Very nice and interesting overall. But I have two related worries:

1) Any reasonable production version will be nowhere close to 1300 kg when the smaller TT RS with the same engine and lots of aluminium in the chassis is close to 1500 kg even without DSG....

2)...or if indeed we have lots of carbon panels including brakes and buckets also in the production version, the price will by far overshoot that of the TT RS and probably even the RS5.

Hope I am wrong here.

That's the point I tried to make here. (http://www.rs6.com/showthread.php/21572-Concept-quattro-to-production-quattro.)

[Joker]

Very nice and interesting overall. But I have two related worries:

1) Any reasonable production version will be nowhere close to 1300 kg when the smaller TT RS with the same engine and lots of aluminium in the chassis is close to 1500 kg even without DSG....

If I'm not mistaken don't Audi quote their weight figures without the 75kg that the likes of BMW include, if so then the 1300kg actually becomes 1375kg which is only 125kg shy of the TTRS.

Now before you say it I do already know that 125kg would still be a huge gap to find but if they trim back on the luxuries, remove the rear seating area and remove all of the steel out of the TT's construction then I am sure they could get even the TTRS close to this figure without the need to include much if any carbon fibre.

Another thing, with each year and increased knowledge of how to work with aluminium I am sure they can make it equally as strong without the same amount of materials, in other words the TT could possibly be made lighter if it were designed now instead of a few years ago.


2)...or if indeed we have lots of carbon panels including brakes and buckets also in the production version, the price will by far overshoot that of the TT RS and probably even the RS5.

Hope I am wrong here.

I doubt they were ever considering to sell the car as low as the TTRS, I were go as far as to say that I doubt the RS5 price was ever a realistic figure.

But I hope I am wrong because I too would love it to offer all this potential performance in a GTR type value for money price, but I am a realist.

[SAF]

I doubt they were ever considering to sell the car as low as the TTRS, I were go as far as to say that I doubt the RS5 price was ever a realistic figure.

For something like that concept quattro? I am thinking otherwise, but what do I know. With this economy, it's time to offer up a solid little sports coupe, not a premium super midget.

[PANZER]

Love the drivetrain 5 cylinder engine manual gearbox ect although slightly more power would not hurt say 450hp can sacrifce a little of that lowdown grunt if they must ,and can also add a dual clutch gearbox as an option.

Design vice i like it overall but the front is a little to futuristic for my taste i like it brutal but not to sharpish looking.
The back could be a little longer and more level or up pointing looking from a profile.
Interior i like but would look better with some ventilation vents or screen in the center off the dashboard looks to naked without.

I bet this Audi would be fun to drive i just hope if they make it that you can turn off TC and ESP completely.

[The RS6]

When considering the price I think what everyone forgets that this should be as fast 0-100km/h as an R8 V10. Put a price on that :D

[SAF]

When considering the price I think what everyone forgets that this should be as fast 0-100km/h as an R8 V10. Put a price on that :D

Personally, I'd rather budget the cost for performance upgrades after the initial purchase. If they offer a basic 5cyl turbo machine for a good price, it allows the consumer to mod it per their individual needs and means. Just another reason to keep it simple - I'd love to play with it gradually like I did with the B5S4 and the RS6. Why pay a ton of money for factory performance (and R&D) that will in many cases get removed or tweaked anyway? Obviously a lot of aftermarket goodies will be available for such a car if it gets produced.

(the motive behind my constant "just the basics" desire is that such an approach might be more economically feasible for Audi to actually produce it and not shelve it because it will cost too much to even produce and/or have such a high price point that production is limited, making it so exclusive that we (in the states) never even see it because of its small market appeal)

[SAF]

LOL, oh well, time for me to stop daydreaming about ever owning one of these...

10/08/10
Outlining the steps leading up to the quattro's possible low-volume production, Stephan Reil, head of development at Audi's quattro division said: “We need to collect feedback to see if it is possible to produce a small series. Audi has no heritage in building 200 to 500 cars that are really exotic. But it won't be over 100,000 [Euros, or $140,000].”

Hinting about a possible technical tie-up with sister company Lamborghini, whose expertise in carbon fiber is set to play a major role in the quattro's lightweight body construction, Reil said: “This car [the Quattro] and Lamborghini are in the same exotic corner.”

[auditt]

What colour should I get?

[YlwBeast]

SAF, since you've owned #1, Qisha sign me up for #2 for the US...let me guess, 3rd Qtr 2012 as a 2013, probably wont get to the US until 4th Qtr 2014? Man! What a long wait...still want one!!!
Any chance of a world release, that is US gets it the same time as the rest of the world?

[auditt]

Payed the deposit to my dealer today.