MP4-12C driven by Button and Hamilton

[Z07]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtGTxt30N94&feature=player_embedded

[AndyBG]

I watched this couple of days ago... I wonder... Is this MP4 in the line with 458 Italia, or maybe better...?

[Z07]

I think the plan is for it to compete with the F458 and LP570-4 but only time will tell as to whether it's better or worse.

[KresoF1]

I watched this couple of days ago... I wonder... Is this MP4 in the line with 458 Italia, or maybe better...?

MP4-12C is pure masterpiece and by far the best car in its class. My friend will handle the import for ex-YU markets and I have all possible info about McLaren. Ferrari 458 Italia is let we say on second place after McLaren. All others are in the distance...

[andreadebi]

MP4-12C is pure masterpiece and by far the best car in its class. My friend will handle the import for ex-YU markets and I have all possible info about McLaren. Ferrari 458 Italia is let we say on second place after McLaren. All others are in the distance...

I really think McLaren is on another level...but not just one...let's say 2-3 over 458 italia..I'm pretty sure also that Porsche will accept this new challenge and will finally push hard the 911's development

[AndyBG]

My friend will handle the import for ex-YU markets and I have all possible info about McLaren.

That's interesting...

[f1esp]

9585

9586


Ummmmmmm... Not so bad...

[Benman]

Very neat video. Would be nice to see those two very talented drivers be involved in final development of the car. Sort of in a way similar to Sena with the NSX.

Ben

[Z07]

Under 3s 0-60 with LC:

http://www.egmcartech.com/2010/03/21/mclaren-mp4-12c-can-run-0-60-mph-in-under-3-seconds-with-launch-control/

0-124mph-0 in 15s:

http://www.carsession.com/car-news/mclaren-mp4-12c-price.html

600hp@7000rpm
442lbft@3000rpm
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2010-03/18/mclaren-shows-off-mp4-12c-baby-supercar.aspx

1300kg dry, 1400kg kerb

100-0kph in 30m
http://speedhunters.com/archive/2010/03/18/event-gt-gt-mclaren-mp4-12c-launch.aspx

[Z07]

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[Z07]

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[Z07]

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[Z07]

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[Z07]

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[Benman]

Well, dayUM, no shortage of photos there!

Overall very nice just lacking a little of the "wow" factor of the original. Plus, not entirely sold on the Star Trek logo. ;)

They are planning a "higer up" model to compete with the memory of the "Macca", no?

Ben

[Z07]

They are planning a "higer up" model to compete with the memory of the "Macca", no?

Ben
Yup. Apparently Murray is also planning one of his own too.

[Erik]

Overall very nice just lacking a little of the "wow" factor of the original. Plus, not entirely sold on the Star Trek logo. ;)


I agree. The steering wheel looks like it's from a kit car with that centre.

I'm sure it will be a hell of a car, but the design leaves me a bit unprovoked.

I predict this will be the winner of EVO's eCOTY 2011.

[Benman]

Hmm, a British car with the name "McLaren" on it... what gave you that hint. ;) :):) :cheers:

Ben

[RXBG]

i love this car, the concept, the execution....... no doubt in my mind it will be as fast or faster than the italia. and will probably be even faster or on the same level as the upcoming italia scuderia roadcar.

i hate the logo. too simple and dull. and i wish it had a manual option. but those are my only criticisms. my first impression of the steering wheel was that of a cheap kit car type of thing, but on closer inspection it looks like it is quite nice and is just that it doesn't photograph well. the materials look very audi-like.

thanks for posting such great, real-life pics. i feel like i;ve just seen it in real life.

let's see if it beats the GT2 RS's ring time!

[Z07]

let's see if it beats the GT2 RS's ring time!
Let's first see the GT2 RS's 'ring time.

[Z07]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0d0Re2b7GU&feature=player_embedded

[RXBG]

Let's first see the GT2 RS's 'ring time.

this has been around for about 4 months now.

7:18


http://www.caranddriver.com/news/car/10q2/2011_porsche_911_gt2_rs-official_photos_and_info

[Z07]

Oh, and Porsche says this car will lap the Nürburgring Nordschleife in 7 minutes, 18

Hate to break this to you but records aren't broken by somebody telling people that they've been broken. The requirements for evidence are a bit stronger than that. The GT2 RS is undoubtedly a great car but the requirement for evidence remains the same. Every other car with a sub-7:30 time has a video. Porsche does not, draw your own conclusions.

Being capable of a 7:18 time and actually doing it are 2 different things. Maybe Porsche didn't want a dead test driver on their hands.

[Benman]

...but those are my only criticisms...
To that I would add that it is not as good looking as your car is for far, far less money.. :cheers:

Ben

[RXBG]

To that I would add that it is not as good looking as your car is for far, far less money.. :cheers:

Ben

you have a way with compliments, Ben.

.... on that note. i am really curious about the R8 GT's performance numbers.

[Benman]

Wow, now that is a good point... but someone here just posted not too long ago it was not as quick as anticipated. Maybe Erik was the one that posted, can't remember.

Sure is a looker though! :heart:

[RXBG]

Hate to break this to you but records aren't broken by somebody telling people that they've been broken. The requirements for evidence are a bit stronger than that. The GT2 RS is undoubtedly a great car but the requirement for evidence remains the same. Every other car with a sub-7:30 time has a video. Porsche does not, draw your own conclusions.

Being capable of a 7:18 time and actually doing it are 2 different things. Maybe Porsche didn't want a dead test driver on their hands.

well, that is a never ending argument. you can have a video that "proves" something yet one always wonder about the results when you don't know how the car could have been set up (i.e software alterations, tire set-up, etc.... especially when no one else can replicate the results on the video). of course i am referring to the GTR. but just so you know i apply my rules equally, i will wait to see what SA gets with the car. but something tells me it will be right on the money.

by the way. i mention the GTR as an example and not as fodder for more discussion and personal issues since this has been beaten to death. the subject is the GT2 RS. period.

[Erik]

Hate to break this to you but records aren't broken by somebody telling people that they've been broken.

Porsche GT2RS takes back the title... what is that title again?
http://bridgetogantry.com/2/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=128:porsche-gt2rs-takes-back-the-title-what-is-the-title-again&catid=1:news&Itemid=300053

:D

[Z07]

well, that is a never ending argument. you can have a video that "proves" something yet one always wonder about the results when you don't know how the car could have been set up (i.e software alterations, tire set-up, etc.... especially when no one else can replicate the results on the video). of course i am referring to the GTR. but just so you know i apply my rules equally, i will wait to see what SA gets with the car. but something tells me it will be right on the money.

by the way. i mention the GTR as an example and not as fodder for more discussion and personal issues since this has been beaten to death. the subject is the GT2 RS. period.
You can have a 9s 100m run at the Olympics that might have been set by someone off their face on speed but until someone proves them to have been on speed, it still counts. However, if I write in to the IAF and say I've ran 8 seconds. It doesn't count worth a shit. Do you understand?

SA are always right on the money with 911s but the requirement for a video still stands regardless of who the lap is done by.

[Z07]

Porsche GT2RS takes back the title... what is that title again?
http://bridgetogantry.com/2/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=128:porsche-gt2rs-takes-back-the-title-what-is-the-title-again&catid=1:news&Itemid=300053

:D
Exactly. You'll notice that other times also have a '.X' in the time (e.g. 7:26.7), because they're official times with video evidence, whereas Porsche just quotes 7.18.

[RXBG]

You can have a 9s 100m run at the Olympics that might have been set by someone off their face on speed but until someone proves them to have been on speed, it still counts. However, if I write in to the IAF and say I've ran 8 seconds. It doesn't count worth a shit. Do you understand?



well, it's kind of like you belonging to a gay club that swaps partners all the time, and you going around telling everyone how big your boyfriend's dick is, but no one believing you because they've tried him and it's nowhere the size you swear by, even though you videotaped it and posted it. everyone knows you loaded him up with viagra, cialis, levitra, and a vacuum pump but you keep insisting it really is that way because you caught it on vid. yeah, it is a really simple concept. and most people on the planet have understood it. it's just that you keep confusing the cause for the effect.

[Z07]

well, it's kind of like you belonging to a gay club that swaps partners all the time, and you going around telling everyone how big your boyfriend's dick is, but no one believing you because they've tried him and it's nowhere the size you swear by, even though you videotaped it and posted it. everyone knows you loaded him up with viagra, cialis, levitra, and a vacuum pump but you keep insisting it really is that way because you caught it on vid. yeah, it is a really simple concept. and most people on the planet have understood it. it's just that you keep confusing the cause for the effect.
I don't want to hear about your personal life. I just want to see a GT2 RS 'ring lap.

[Z07]

This is a family forum keep it clean.

But let's just quickly demonstrate that your argument has no grounds.

1) The GTR has comfortably outperformed the Turbo and GT3 in almost all other tests and even outperformed the GT2 in many (except with Sport Auto).
2) The GTR got within 9s of its claim with SA (2009 model - 7:29). The ZR1 only got within 12s of its claim.
3) No non-911s besides hypercars ever break 7:38 with Sport Auto.
4) None of Sport Autos Porsche laps (e.g. the 7:33 for the GT3 RS) are on video.
5) 911s perform far better (relative to other cars) with SA than any other mag.
6) The GT3 RS beat the 458 on HHR Short with SA which is patently ridiculous looking at other tests.

So, you see, it looks like SA is the one fitting their favourite brand with a 'strap-on'.

It's actually the Porsche that appears better than it is with SA and can't perform to the same standard anywhere else.

[Benman]

the subject is the GT2 RS. period. Actually guys, the subject is the MP4-12C. ;)

Ben

[Z07]

And to answer the original question:


let's see if it beats the GT2 RS's ring time!

Yes, I'm absolutely sure McLaren could claim a 'ring time faster than 7:18, which in some people's eyes would make it faster apparently.

[andreadebi]

stunning in white and what a mean loooking!

http://www.streetfire.net/video/spy-video_2057751.htm

[Ruergard]

I'm getting sold on this thing... Can't wait for some figures..

[RXBG]

i predict a tie with the GT2 RS. but i need to see a mag comparo. real life GT2 RS is probably 7:20 around the ring. that is fast as sh*t.

[Z07]

The GT2 RS doesn't really fit the description of series production car though, which makes it a different kettle of fish.

[tailpipe]

Magnificent. It doesn't have the looks or the brand pull of the Ferarri 458, but it will deliver on performance and build quality. The engineering in this thing is extraordinary. I think this car is destined to be one of the greats. I can't wait to see it in the metal.