Speeding Ticket WTF

[skribe]

Ok, the beast had its first run-in with Johnny Law tonight. Got pinched by a local cop, he gave me a ticket, he did drop it down a notch to the lowest infraction category... he cut me a deal. At least he was a nice guy, knew what the car was, complimented it and had lots of questions about it. Strange chatting with officer friendly who's writing you a ticket, I guess he was just doing his job, I was dead to rights guilty. And I was actually kind of relieved, it could have been much worse if somebody clocked me 10 minutes earlier! :revs:

Anyway, I'm posting because I have a question: I had the Valentine One on, it has saved me before for sure. This time, it never made a peep. When he pulled me over and asked me if I knew how fast I was going, I said no (though I did know, but I've had better luck feigning ignorance in the past.) He quoted me exactly the speed I was going, and later explained that he had clocked me with radar... Again, the Valentine never chirped.

Lately, I've noticed some local cops hanging out in their favorite speed traps, no visible lidar gun or anything, yet the Valentine has not given any alert. Usually these guys just sit there with radar on, causing the Valentine to go nuts. Struck me as odd, strikes me as really odd now that I got pinched. Reasonably certain the Valentine is functioning correctly.

So I'm wondering, is there some new variation of radar that the Valentine can't detect? Anyone?

[DHall1]

Watch out they are gunning for you. I just had this conversation with a friend about the cut throat nature of public service and the big squeeze that is on right now. He is worse that I am. Still drives a 600hp Cobra conversion and he is 75yrs old. Raced his bike well into his 50s and still drives it like a crazy man.

These folks are doing whatever it takes to save their butts so watch out. Parking tickets in Phoenix are nearly 60 bucks. Mobile ticket cameras are around every corner and cops behind every bridge.

but do ya think the state of AZ could leave the rest areas open? Naaaaa, they closed them all. No pisser for me. State parks....closed them too. People just need to stay home and kick the dog.

[RS6-4dr911]

http://veilguy.blogspot.com/2007/05/another-look-at-pop-radar.html


In fact there is one form of POP that operates four times quicker than regular POP RADAR -- at a blistering 16ms. The only detector that has been able to sniff this form out is again the V1, but it generally has about a one in ten chance of doing so. I was concerned initially about it, but no longer. As Steve has correctly stated in one of the comments below, you probably have about the same chance as getting hit by a bolt of lightning as being tagged with POP in either form (16ms or 67ms)!


http://www.guysoflidar.com/march-2007/16msk.gif

*Reprinted with permission from the Guys of Lidar (http://www.guysoflidar.com/).

[MaxRS6]

...Strange chatting with officer friendly who's writing you a ticket, I guess he was just doing his job, I was dead to rights guilty. And I was actually kind of relieved, it could have been much worse if somebody clocked me 10 minutes earlier! :revs:[/B]

A couple weeks ago I was stopped at a red light after blistering down a curvy stretch of road with my "eyes only" radar system. Mr. Officer pulls up next to me motioning for me to roll down the window. I'm thinking "uh uh". I get the window down and he asks "How much horsepower does it have in it??". I tell him it is 500+ and says he likes the way it looks and sounds. After some further chatter, the light changes and I meander off with brake pad aroma in the air- 6+ years with the RS6 clean driving record and wallet untouched..Phew

I know my time is coming to pay the piper due to my propensity to think the speed laws are not for me and I was put on this planet to burn carbons-I just keep hoping it won't be today!

[skribe]

http://veilguy.blogspot.com/2007/05/another-look-at-pop-radar.html


In fact there is one form of POP that operates four times quicker than regular POP RADAR -- at a blistering 16ms. The only detector that has been able to sniff this form out is again the V1, but it generally has about a one in ten chance of doing so. I was concerned initially about it, but no longer. As Steve has correctly stated in one of the comments below, you probably have about the same chance as getting hit by a bolt of lightning as being tagged with POP in either form (16ms or 67ms)!


http://www.guysoflidar.com/march-2007/16msk.gif

*Reprinted with permission from the Guys of Lidar (http://www.guysoflidar.com/).

I don't know... I feel like something's up. Like I said these local guys (northern IL) usually just sit there with Ka blazing, waiting for soccer moms (people with no detector) who are late to pick up Aiden, Jayden, or Kaiden. Pretty easy to sniff out from a mile away. But lately, I've seen them camped in their hide-outs and the Valentine says nothing... Spooky.

In Wisconsin, they love to hang out the window and play sniper -- pick you off with a Lidar gun, so it's understandable when you roll past and detect nothing, but I don't get these guys in northern IL who seem to be passively trolling like they always do, but are not triggering the detector.

Sending the V1 in for the latest firmware (it's only two years old...)

[skribe]

but do ya think the state of AZ could leave the rest areas open? Naaaaa, they closed them all. No pisser for me.

I got your solution right here from an old punk rock amigo, Mike Watt.

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[Born2be]

Did he get you with laser maybe???

My Passport picked this up once...I was going 79 and am speculating 80 was their magic number as I was going just a hitch quicker than the flow of traffic....

W>

[gooseleg]

Remember Speed = distance/time, the radar gun does not have to be on for them to calculate your speed

[ben916]

I got your solution right here from an old punk rock amigo, Mike Watt.


Did he get you with laser maybe???

My Passport picked this up once...I was going 79 and am speculating 80 was their magic number as I was going just a hitch quicker than the flow of traffic....

W>

Dude stole my dance moves...

Wade, did Ponch and John pinch you?

[skribe]

It was at night and he was hiding blind... he couldn't have timed me. V1 will ping for laser always, I got no laser ping, plus he didn't have good line-of-sight, and I've never seen the local guys using laser. He quoted me my exact speed, so he didn't seem to be fudging anything.

I'm fearing that maybe micropulse POP radar is finally being deployed on the street... which will leave you pretty defenseless no matter what kind of detector you have. :vhmmm:

[Benman]

I love how D spends a bunch of time bagging on Da' Man and totally skips your question IN BOLD TYPE!

No, I have not heard any bands that fool V2... news to me.

Ben :addict:

[DHall1]

I never miss the chance to bag da'man.

Perfect thread jack as I know squat about radar detectors.

Piss bottle man was a hoot.

[LIRS6]

Remember Speed = distance/time, the radar gun does not have to be on for them to calculate your speed

indeed - maybe from above (plane)?

MaxRS6 - 6 yrs for me as well .. one ticket which sympathetic judge reduced to parking ticket :))

[terrytcl]

where in northern IL was this?

[skribe]

where in northern IL was this?

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[terrytcl]

lake forest will do that to you.

if anywhere they have money to buy somethign like that, definitely lake forest.

[ben916]

indeed - maybe from above (plane)?



This might deter further "eye in the sky" so to say...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIM-92_Stinger

OT, I spent 9 months at NTC great lakes(about 2-3miles from your infraction sight) from Dec 1985 - Sep 1986, shoveling snow in -45 wind chill... not fun...

[terrytcl]

back in high school, we had a tennis match against lake forest academy.
couldn't find a drinking fountain... they had evian bottled water on tables (this was back in the early 90s).
the bathrooms were cleaner and nicer than some hotels i've been in.
and. never saw so many 100K+ automobiles in a parking lot... these were parked in the student section.
the parking lot had more cars to look at than the chicago auto show.

if you don't know, lake forest academy is a private high school. lake forest has the highest concentration of professional athletes and celebrities (at least from my memory).

definitely capable of purchasing anything for their 5.0s

[4everRS]

Had a plane get me a couple years ago in my A6. Trooper waiting up ahead to hear info on CB i'm sure. Had a detector on and not a peep. Trooper didn't need it. Some Viper and Corvette guys will have a CB/scanner in car not only to talk to each other, but also hear chatter on police radio. My thought (dream) has been to use a gps (rns-e) and be able to hack into the gps units of police/trooper sqads to show where they are, and put it on a screen with a warning. I'm sure every one of those cars has got to have a gps unit in it. Now wouldn't that be sweet.

For now you'll just have to look through the sunroof to check for planes. You solar guys are screwed.

[terrytcl]

in IL, the state troopers are the only ones I know of that use planes.

I went to Marquette U... and i remember driving up there and seeing cops parked on overpasses. About 2 miles down the road, there would be 5-10 cop cars ready to pull over drivers. of course, they were all IL drivers. Wisconsinites should thank us for helping out your revenue. :)

[skribe]

in IL, the state troopers are the only ones I know of that use planes.

I went to Marquette U... and i remember driving up there and seeing cops parked on overpasses. About 2 miles down the road, there would be 5-10 cop cars ready to pull over drivers. of course, they were all IL drivers. Wisconsinites should thank us for helping out your revenue. :)

AHA! Illinois kid who went to Marquette... and you're picking on Lake Forest.
WEELLL.... growing up in Milwaukee I have a story or two about Marquette U kids.

And yes, Wisconsin is a speed trap nightmare. They don't have toll roads, but they have tax collectors disguised as state troopers.

[terrytcl]

uh oh

hahahah i wish i grew up in lake forest. hahahha

GO WARRIORS!

hey, at least we FIBS :o) don't call a water fountain the "bubbler" and get cash from the "Tyme" machine

:)

[skribe]

Congrats on MU making the big dance. Confident my Badgers will take you out though. FIBS... bubbler.... TYME machine. Hilarious. Meet me for beers at Wolski's.
I went the opposite way as you, former cheesehead, now flatlander.

Uh-oh. My OT detector just went nuts. Is that an admin hiding under that overpass?

[s42ski]

Wow - I grew up in Highland Park just a few miles from where you got nailed. Two other thoughts - Lake Forest does have money to buy fancy equipment so maybe they have the monopulse radar - other option is they have tweaked the radar to a slightly different frequency so the V1 cant sniff it. This is illegal from a federal standpoint, but it would allow them to nab folks with radar detectors with ease.

If you get stopped ask to see the calibration runs on the gun and get the info on the make and model. Also always make a mental note of what is around you. If the gun has not been calibrated recently it gives you some leeway in terms of what he writes.

I once got pulled over going 75 down green bay road in Glencoe - I was going about 55 in a 35 and the detector went off and I hit the brakes. I took it to court. Proved that the cop was actually tracking the express train that was running right alongside at that time. Reasonable doubt and the fact that radar tracks the largest object.

[Born2be]

Wade, did Ponch and John pinch you?

Driving the S8 back home in the afternoon from Riverside down the 15 at the Mission/Fallbrook exit where the usual/customary speed trap is, and I had dropped down from my usual/customary crusing speed of 90 mph to 79 mph. The Passport squealed like never before (and since) with the laser warning. I assumed I was dead, but I guess I wasn't going fast enough to bother Johnny to come get me.

W>

[ZCD2.7T]

Bummer about the ticket. LF cops don't generally have much else to do! ;-)

I probably shouldn't admit it, but I actually grew up in LF. Even attended ( for a short while) what was then called LF HS "West Campus", which can be seen at the lower right-hand quadrant of the aerial photo. We moved away when I was 14, but still have some friends there.

LF has changed for the worse, IMO, since we left. It's gotten snobbier and snobbier, which is a shame, because it's really a beautiful area to live in. Too much $$$$ now, though - I about puked when I read the most recent sale price of one of the houses we lived in.

[terrytcl]

Congrats on MU making the big dance. Confident my Badgers will take you out though. FIBS... bubbler.... TYME machine. Hilarious. Meet me for beers at Wolski's.
I went the opposite way as you, former cheesehead, now flatlander.

Uh-oh. My OT detector just went nuts. Is that an admin hiding under that overpass?


yeah, MU isn't the team that I thought they would be this year. We have some good prospects coming in for next season, so who knows.

we had your Badger's numbers for the past couple years, but this year... yeah, i'd have to agree with you on that.

Most of the taverns we hung out were near the MU campus and the UWM campus. I believe most of those are long gone now.

Definitely enjoyed Madison's campus. Interesting layout, but excellent city.

Funny thing is my parents moved to Menomonee Falls a couple years after I graduated MU. hahahaha

Now they are cheeseheads. I just hope our bears have your packers number this coming season. :)

[terrytcl]

Bummer about the ticket. LF cops don't generally have much else to do! ;-)

I probably shouldn't admit it, but I actually grew up in LF. Even attended ( for a short while) what was then called LF HS "West Campus", which can be seen at the lower right-hand quadrant of the aerial photo. We moved away when I was 14, but still have some friends there.

LF has changed for the worse, IMO, since we left. It's gotten snobbier and snobbier, which is a shame, because it's really a beautiful area to live in. Too much $$$$ now, though - I about puked when I read the most recent sale price of one of the houses we lived in.


I don't understand why LF HS is so close to Deerfield HS.
LF HS is definitely not to the caliber of snob to lake forest academy. They defined snob.

I never understood people paying 1.5-2 mil for a house on 3/4 acre and close to a frieght track.

Would prefer Northfield or Kennilworth over Lake Forest anyday.

[ZCD2.7T]

I don't understand why LF HS is so close to Deerfield HS.

West Campus was built in the late 70s to handle overflow from the original campus, which is about 2 miles NE (a mile N of downtown LF). It hasn't been used as a HS for years.

Northfield and Kenilworth are nice too, but LF has the lakefront.

[gjg]

http://veilguy.blogspot.com/2007/05/another-look-at-pop-radar.html


In fact there is one form of POP that operates four times quicker than regular POP RADAR -- at a blistering 16ms. The only detector that has been able to sniff this form out is again the V1, but it generally has about a one in ten chance of doing so. I was concerned initially about it, but no longer. As Steve has correctly stated in one of the comments below, you probably have about the same chance as getting hit by a bolt of lightning as being tagged with POP in either form (16ms or 67ms)!


http://www.guysoflidar.com/march-2007/16msk.gif

*Reprinted with permission from the Guys of Lidar (http://www.guysoflidar.com/).

16 ms seems bit fast given some limitations of the technology in the TX/RX field?