Breaking news: The Audi RS5 brochure!

[MihokS5]

http://www.rs6.com/content.php/19-Breaking-news-Audi-RS5

Enjoy!

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The heart of the car.

http://www.rs6.com/AudiRS5/AudiRS5-details-13.jpg

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(Post updated with new pictures)

[Lmg]

It's here! It's finally here!!!

And it's awesome!!!!!

[Erik]

http://recom-post.de/#/portfolio/project/normalView/audi-rs5---literatur---cgi/104612574/

This ass beats everything!

http://www.rs6.com/AudiRS5/AudiRS5-7.jpg

And the interior - second to none!

http://www.automotorsport.se/bigpix/2010/Audi_RS5_Geneva_03_big.jpg

[AudiRS4ever]

Beautiful car

[andreadebi]

wowwww! very sporty!

[The Pretender]

Where are the engine pics. ???

[Lmg]

Where are the engine pics. ???

Apparently, there aren't any in the brochure:

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee239/Dark_and_Divine/RECOM-CGI_AUDI_RS5_30.jpg

[AudiRS4ever]

Where are the engine pics. ???

It's supposedly the RS4 motor with dual air boxes. Guessing is 450 horsepower with minimal gains on torque.

[AudiRS4ever]

Does anybody else think it's odd that some of the pictures show the mirrors in body color and some show them in aluminum? Just wondering if this is the real deal?

[Lmg]

Does anybody else think it's odd that some of the pictures show the mirrors in body color and some show them in aluminum? Just wondering if this is the real deal?

The RS cars (and S cars, for that matter) had always the option of having the mirrors in the body colour. And the RS5 that has the mirrors in body colour also has the same black package that the RS6 had, noticeable mainly because of the windows' frame and the front gril frame are painted in black.

[JavierNuvolari]

Looks amazing this car that for sure. Then again...I think someone...well...I think someone fucked things up BIG time here, wasn't this thing to be released in like a year from now?

[The Pretender]

No, Geneva 2010 is the place for introduction.

[EKaru]

That looks like a $100K car

[AudiRS4ever]

The RS cars (and S cars, for that matter) had always the option of having the mirrors in the body colour. And the RS5 that has the mirrors in body colour also has the same black package that the RS6 had, noticeable mainly because of the windows' frame and the front gril frame are painted in black.

Ok, that clears it up. Other than the 08 RS4, all the RS's that came to America always had Aluminum mirrors. That's why I got confused looking at it. Definitely a gorgeous car. I've already forwarded the link to the GSM at the dealer I buy from and told him I want pricing as soon as he gets it. Thanks!

[The Pretender]

But still a lot of photoshopping going on in those pics.

[Ruergard]

This is looking good, very good....

[Toto89]

Wow! That looks really stunning! It is the best looking Audi since the R8, that's for sure. All is want to know is the details. By the way, have You noticed on the first picture, that the engine cooling works on a bit higher temperature than before? The needle goes over 90°C, that's not like in normal cars, but like in old German cars, where the engine used to work on ~95-97°C because of less wearing at that temp.

[The Pretender]

In grey it's plain and boring, in red it's vibrant.

[DHall1]

Hello AoA....can you bring this to the US?

Cotton pickers no TTRS....no C6 RS6.....no RS4 avant.......what about this?

[Zyklon5]

All the pictures show S-tronic versions only. The back is lovely.

[LittleDevil]

I really like it. KresoF1 or Qisha do you have some more info for us? :hihi:

Best Regards

[QuattroFun]

If this is the real deal and it certainly seems so, all I can say is: absolutely stunning exterior especially in red with black optics and the exclusive bucket seat interior is pretty nice as well. I am less sure on the alloy wheels available and the presumably standard white/silver interior looks bland, though. And no bespoke steering wheel?

[KresoF1]

I really like it. KresoF1 or Qisha do you have some more info for us? :hihi:

Best Regards

OK...

Someone broke the embargo... I have that same brochure and German Price List for almost 8 days now. BUT, embargo is still ON and I can not post specs and prices yet... 22nd earliest...

Hopefully , all of you like RS5-IMHO the best car in its class by far.

[The Pretender]

Apparently the RS5 will be S-Tronic only.

[The Pretender]

OK...

Someone broke the embargo... I have that same brochure and German Price List for almost 8 days now. BUT, embargo is still ON and I can not post specs and prices yet... 22nd earliest...

Hopefully , all of you like RS5-IMHO the best car in its class by far.

Have you seen any engine pics. ?

[KresoF1]

Have you seen any engine pics. ?

YES. ...and very interesting source of this leak-company that is doing some marketing work for Audi. Maybe for the last time?

[The Pretender]

YES. ...and very interesting source of this leak-company that is doing some marketing work for Audi. Maybe for the last time?
Why are there no engine pictures in the brochure. ?

[KresoF1]

Why are there no engine pictures in the brochure. ?

There ARE. Also you have full specs inside and complete option list. Just someone deliberately did not allow them to leak...

[The Pretender]

There ARE. Also you have full specs inside and complete option list. Just someone deliberately did not allow them to leak...
Is there something special to see about that engine.
So far i know it's look like the new A8 engine only with red valve covers and dark grey intake.

[RXBG]

8200 rpm redline. not as high as i thought. perhaps there will be a significant torque increase after all.

it looks great. i really like it. like Qisha said- it does look better in bright colors.

i am pretty sure audi will bring it stateside. now all they have to do is change the S5 coupe's motor and they'll be all set.

[Lmg]

8200 rpm redline. not as high as i thought. perhaps there will be a significant torque increase after all.

RXBG, it will be probably higher. The RS4's redline in the tachometer started a 8000 rpm, but the engine's maximum revs were 8250 rpm.

And while the RS5's tacho has its redline at aprox. 8200 rpm, it will probably rev a bit more, maybe more or less 8500 rpm.

[biker14]

There ARE. Also you have full specs inside and complete option list. Just someone deliberately did not allow them to leak...

Will it be possible to remove the 250 kph limitation as option? :hahahehe:

[KresoF1]

Will it be possible to remove the 250 kph limitation as option? :hahahehe:

Of course.

[Ritchy]

What about the wheel steering ? is it possible to have the same as the RS4 ?

[The Pretender]

Of course.
The same as the TT RS or it will already have a limit at 280Km/h.

[Ritchy]

More photos:

http://recom-cgi.de/#/portfolio/project/fullView/audi-rs5---literatur---cgi/104612591/

[artur777]

ahhhhh
so nice car
best exterior in its clss
waiting for the specs
KresoF1, please give us some hints

[Ritchy]

Nice car. I just don't like the down part of the rear, and the whellsteering, not enough "sport".

Hopefully, we've got the choice of the rims.....ugly on the black (grey?) one.

Pity for the max revs, always hoping for a surprise on the engine, not a simple upgrade of the RS4 with a new cooling system...

[youry]

Nice car. I just don't like the down part of the rear, and the whellsteering, not enough "sport".

Hopefully, we've got the choice of the rims.....ugly on the black (grey?) one.

Pity for the max revs, always hoping for a surprise on the engine, not a simple upgrade of the RS4 with a new cooling system...

don't expect too much Ritchy....

We were both very happy of our RS4 V8. We were both waiting for an incredible TT RS, we both got disapointed. we both decided to wait for an incredible RS5. Here it is and the reality is there. its an evolution but it will not be a revolution...

I am disapointed but on the other hand i am fed up waiting, so will go ahead and buy it (unless its 100000 EUR of course). i've been waiting too far for an exclusive sports car ar AUDI. the only that I really like is the R8 V10, but my budget does not allow it so RS5 it will be. I recently got my dedicated license plate in belgium bloked (RS-500) I'm goign for it. but I'll need to fine tune it a lot to get something i really enjoy... (interior, wheels (21 or 22 inch in function of OEM tire diameter). exhsust, engine tuning, etc..... carbon parts.... after that maybe it will really be something special in my eyes...

[Ritchy]

Yes, quite disapointed. I also noticed that the + and - on the gear box were in the wrong side. Shift up forward is not natural (opposite to acceleration).

Remains the paddles...

Je t'appelle pour le salon, j'y serai le 4 au soir. A+

[The Pretender]

Any pics of the fixed spoiler option.

[youry]

Anybody know where is the Sport button. I cant imagine the RS5 withotu one. but can't find any buttons that has it on the pics....

[Lmg]

Anybody know where is the Sport button. I cant imagine the RS5 withotu one. but can't find any buttons that has it on the pics....

Since the RS5 is equipped with Audi Drive Select, the dynamic mode probably does the same as the Sport button in the RS4. Maybe that's why there's no Sport button.

[iconcls]

A very stunning parts bin car.

[youry]

Since the RS5 is equipped with Audi Drive Select, the dynamic mode probably does the same as the Sport button in the RS4. Maybe that's why there's no Sport button.

Good point there. You are most likely right.

[GEN XER]

Just another overpriced VW! LOL

[The Pretender]

You can supercharged it by MTM with 550-560 hp as a result.

[darkop]

Any pics of the fixed spoiler option.
no such thing... only retractable one!
this thing is out of this world!
AUDI DER BESTE...

[Ritchy]

And what about the wheel steering ???????????????????

[The Pretender]

And what about the wheel steering ???????????????????
You would expect a flat bottom steering wheel option for the RS5.

[Sims]

How many kgs do you guys reckon?

[Ritchy]

Yes, it would be for me comming back in the 20th century without this flat bottom steering....

[Ruergard]

How many kgs do you guys reckon?

A bit to much as always.

[Sims]

A bit to much as always.


That's right, but the new RS flagship has to thrill/dance against the M3's so around 1700kg ?(S5 is 1630).

[Lmg]

That's right, but the new RS flagship has to thrill/dance against the M3's so around 1700kg ?(S5 is 1630).

Probably around the same weight as the S5 (1640 kg with 90% fuel and no driver).

[The Pretender]

S5's 1630 is dry weight, Kerb weight will be 1680+.
RS5 will most likely be 1675 dry weight, Kerb weight 1700++.

[KK265]

OK...

Someone broke the embargo... I have that same brochure and German Price List for almost 8 days now. BUT, embargo is still ON and I can not post specs and prices yet... 22nd earliest...

Hopefully , all of you like RS5-IMHO the best car in its class by far.
I heard about 80000 euro base price in Germany..Is it right?

[Fehli]

EUR 80.000 in Germany is to high, when you think the M3 and C63 costs around EUR 68.000, I think around EUR 76.000 in Germany and the have a few more facilities in the basic in!

[The Pretender]

EUR 80.000 in Germany is to high, when you think the M3 and C63 costs around EUR 68.000, I think around EUR 76.000 in Germany and the have a few more facilities in the basic in!

For that price you have S-Tronic standard and most likely sport diff.

[The Pretender]

btw, what red colour is this.
Is it a new red or is it "Misano Red, pearl effect"

http://www.rs6.com/AudiRS5/AudiRS5-15.jpg

[QuattroFun]

No DRC apparently - good! However, I sincerely hope Audi Drive Select is optional - I want this car with one excellent default setting with a very well developed conventional suspension and not any M Drive & EDC copycat nonsense with a zillion setting options (which I thankfully do not have on my M3/a hilarious 11 gearbox modes is more than enough to live with)

[PeterJohn]

Whine whine whine. Nice things cost a lot of money. And 450pk is plenty. Have some class people.

[KresoF1]

NO old RS4 or current RS6 flat bottom steering wheel option.
New steering wheel is smaller in size-interesting nobody noticed that.
Different settings available via Drive Select-same as on RS6.

BTW, lot of RS5 bashing... Are we on Nissan or BMW forum?

[MihokS5]

NO old RS4 or current RS6 flat bottom steering wheel option.
New steering wheel is smaller in size-interesting nobody noticed that.
Different settings available via Drive Select-same as on RS6.

BTW, lot of RS5 bashing... Are we on Nissan or BMW forum?

I don't understand the bashing either. I'm totally pumped for this car and thunk the execution is beautiful

[GEN XER]

Well I'll take the cluster if it fits the RS6, which I doubt, that is if nothing else comes to the U.S.

[EKaru]

I'm guessing these wheels will be an option

http://www.fourtitude.com/gallery/albums//Design/Photoshop%20Illustrations/George@Fourtitude/033.jpg

http://www.fourtitude.com/gallery/albums//Design/Photoshop%20Illustrations/George@Fourtitude/032.jpg

[KresoF1]

No, RS6 style wheels will not be an option. At least for now.

[QuattroFun]

NO old RS4 or current RS6 flat bottom steering wheel option.
New steering wheel is smaller in size-interesting nobody noticed that.
Different settings available via Drive Select-same as on RS6.

BTW, lot of RS5 bashing... Are we on Nissan or BMW forum?

Does this mean DRC as in RS6 in conjunction with ADS after all? Or ADS in conjunction electronic damper control ala S5? So no conventional SS ala R8 with no ADS then? Too bad for me if that is the case...

[LittleDevil]

@KresoF1: Do you have info how much does it weight, or we need to wait for that info next 4 hours?

Best Regards

[Audiman]

NO old RS4 or current RS6 flat bottom steering wheel option.
New steering wheel is smaller in size-interesting nobody noticed that.
Different settings available via Drive Select-same as on RS6.

BTW, lot of RS5 bashing... Are we on Nissan or BMW forum?

Thats a shame no FBSW, I think it makes the interior look prettier. But the MFSW in the RS5 does look better in the cabin than the RS4 one ever did.

I think the car looks awesome, I've been going back to look at the pictures all day. Can't wait to see it in the flesh, it'll look even more impressive then the renders.

Not had my RS4 long after spending ages pining for one. I got one and was completley satisfied, wasn't even thinking about my next car. Now all I can think of is getting one of these!

[The Pretender]

btw, what red colour is this.
Is it a new red or is it "Misano Red, pearl effect"

http://www.rs6.com/AudiRS5/AudiRS5-15.jpg

Anyone have a answer on this.

[biker14]

I don't understand the bashing either. I'm totally pumped for this car and thunk the execution is beautiful

I'm kind of new to the forum, so not really in a position to tell anyone what to do here, but... I really don't understand this bashing either. This is an Audi RS forum right, and we pretty much know how the car was going to be, I mean it has to look sort of like the A5 and the engine configuration a couple of trust worthy people in here already said what it was going to be a few months ago so... what's the deal? Don't like it, don't buy it. There's plenty of choice out there for everyone. Register in another forum from another brand and bash away there... me, I love it! Can't wait to get my hands on one, I'm number one on the list in my country since like... two years? I don't even remember lol

[The Pretender]

I'm kind of new to the forum, so not really in a position to tell anyone what to do here, but... I really don't understand this bashing either. This is an Audi RS forum right, and we pretty much know how the car was going to be, I mean it has to look sort of like the A5 and the engine configuration a couple of trust worthy people in here already said what it was going to be a few months ago so... what's the deal? Don't like it, don't buy it. There's plenty of choice out there for everyone. Register in another forum from another brand and bash away there... me, I love it! Can't wait to get my hands on one, I'm number one on the list in my country since like... two years? I don't even remember lol

What colour are you going for, Red.

[biker14]

What colour are you going for, Red.

I'm a low profile kind of guy, so all the cars I ever owned were black. Disapointing I know, the car looks awsome in those light, bright colours like Qisha said on the other thread... might change my mind but I doubt it.

[Erik]

BTW, lot of RS5 bashing... Are we on Nissan or BMW forum?

I'm seeing a lot of BMW hardcore people turning "RS5". :love2:

BMW is going to turbo the next M3...the next M5 as well...and the next next M5 might get AWD.
I guess the best selling M cars at the moment are all AWD now (X5/6 M)
Strange world!

BUT - this thread is about the Audi RS5. I have only seen what you have seen, and I haven't found much to complain about yet.

The DSG +/- is my main issue, but even Porsche got it completly wrong!

I think the Audi RS5 is the best Audi product out there, unless you have a big family and need the RS6 Avant.

[Spillies]

More photos:

http://recom-cgi.de/#/portfolio/project/fullView/audi-rs5---literatur---cgi/104612591/

I don't find the brochure...

[The Pretender]

I'm a low profile kind of guy, so all the cars I ever owned were black. Disapointing I know, the car looks awsome in those light, bright colours like Qisha said on the other thread... might change my mind but I doubt it.

I'm also a black car kind of guy, last 10-12 years that is.

[The Pretender]

btw, what red colour is this.
Is it a new red or is it "Misano Red, pearl effect"

http://www.rs6.com/AudiRS5/AudiRS5-15.jpg

Is there still no one who know if this is a new red or misano.

[Erik]

I don't find the brochure...

Well since they made a mistake publishing it before the embargo, I think someone had to do a little bit of overtime today removing the files. Too late now...


Is there still no one who know if this is a new red or misano.

With the official press release around the corner, sort of hours away, I don't think you will get a reply regardless how many times you ask ;)

[Erik]

I don't think you can go wrong with black either, you just have to like washing it.

Here's a black RS6

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2512/4071343127_e03487983d_o.jpg

More pics.
http://www.rs6.com/showthread.php/19961-Pics-Black-RS6-Sedan?highlight=rs6+black

[Tanner]

More photos:

http://recom-cgi.de/#/portfolio/project/fullView/audi-rs5---literatur---cgi/104612591/

Looks like it FINALLY disappeared off their portfolio section within the last few hours, though the images are still on their site ... if you know the URL. Audi AG has to be pretty peeved over this one.

[Lmg]

I don't think you can go wrong with black either, you just have to like washing it.

A black RS5 will look so mean! :love2:

[The Pretender]

I don't think you can go wrong with black either, you just have to like washing it.
4x a year (running carwash) is enough IMHO.
It's a car not a museum piece, it's made to use it, not washing it all the time.

[Zyklon5]

In my timezone is february 22 already, news from folks under NDA ?

Love the car and i have only two nitpicks: i would have liked to see it way earlier than 2010 and i don't like the stock wheels but that is an easy fix for anybody buying this car.

[IulianUM]

It´s been a lot of time since I posted here , working a lot , you know . :stick:
Well , I must say the Rs5 is the best looking car I have seen in a lot of time .
Waiting anxiously all the news from Geneva .

May be this will be my next Rs , even with this wheel .....

[biker14]

Yes it looks great, no doubt. Also awhile back someone posted some pictures of a black S5, beautifull....

I agree with The Pretender on the washing side of things tough, in the winter I don't even bother, the rest of the year if I'm in the mood maybe once a month. Hard work :)


I don't think you can go wrong with black either, you just have to like washing it.

Here's a black RS6

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2512/4071343127_e03487983d_o.jpg

More pics.
http://www.rs6.com/showthread.php/19961-Pics-Black-RS6-Sedan?highlight=rs6+black

[RS4Ever]

looks like....
let me tell you about loooks...
looks like ... i want one! :-P

[youry]

The red is the MISANOROT PERLEFFEKT

[Tony Lam]

a friend of mine from England told me this morning that the new RS5 will have around 470 hp not 450 hp only.... I'm not so sure about that, what do u guys thaink about that? agree or not?

[Mockenrue]

I read somewhere that it's definitely 450hp.

[S6V10Avant]

My info say 450 hp and a disappointing 0-100 km/h in 4,6 sec only..

[f1esp]

I like it... a lot! Probably it's my next car...
But I don't like that rear bumper, I prefer the test mule one:
9427

[Tony Lam]

C63 beat RS4 in all the numbers " 0-100 km/h & HP.....therefore I think RS5 will have at least 470 hp and 0-100 km/h will less than 4,5 sec. remember we are talking about "RS" model!!

[Tony Lam]

and also i guess if RS5 has only 450 hp then i think Audi would have already told us however i think Audi wants to suprise us.....therefore.....!!

[AudiRS4ever]

If it has 475 horsepower that will be over 113 horsepower per liter. While that's a great bragging point, I would start wondering how reliability will be over the years. I would be just fine with 450 horsepower if it means the reliability will be there. Either way, I am very excited to see this car launch and get all of the details as they become available.

[RXBG]

remember guys, its not all about hp. the more hp this high rev concept has the less increase in torque it can muster across the power band vs the RS4 engine- i'd prefer more torque and 450 hp- particularly if they can flatten the torque curve a bit in order to take full advantage of the DSG.

also- i've never heard of someone not buying a car because of the steering wheel. kind of funny to read this in fact. and yes, overall the steering wheel appears the same but it is smaller than the S5 steering wheel. they probably chose to stay with a rounded bottom to make it easier to work with, etc..... it probably has a high steering ratio. unlike the R8 which is so sensitive it doesn't need a round bottom.

[MihokS5]

Qisha and KresoF1-its officially the 22nd so can you tell us the specs now?! Thanks!!

[KresoF1]

Press Release:

Unbridled power lurking in a classically elegant coupé: the Audi RS5 will debut at the 2010 Geneva Auto Show. The high-revving 4.2-liter V8 with its 331 kW (450 hp) unleashes powerful performance while achieving remarkable fuel economy. The seven-speed S tronic and an innovative center differential in the quattro drivetrain transmit power to all four wheels.

Developed by quattro GmbH, the RS models comprise the dynamic spearhead of Audi's model range. The Audi RS5 is the latest torchbearer in a tradition dating back over 15 years to the RS 2 Avant: superior handling in the mid-size class.

A close relative of the V10 which powers the high-performance Audi R8 sports car, the high-revving V8 engine delivers its output from a displacement of 4,163 cm3. Like nearly every Audi gasoline engine, this one also operates via direct fuel injection known by the abbreviation FSI. This same technology has propelled the Audi R8 racing car to four triumphs at the classic endurance race in Le Mans. The common-rail system generates up to 120 bars of pressure.

Intensive fine-tuning of the dual-branch intake and exhaust system allows the undersquare engine to breathe freely; four adjustable camshafts and tumble flaps in the intake manifold facilitate mixture formation. The 4.2 FSI provides imposing torque and is right at home even at high revs - almost like a race engine. The engine delivers 331 kW (450 hp) at 8,250 rpm and - between 4,000 and 6,000 rpm - transmits a maximum of 430 Nm (317.15 lb-ft) of torque.

The vigorous strength, the spontaneous responsiveness, the joyful high-revving, and the throaty, sonorous music: this V8 produced by hand at Audi stunningly combines the essence of power and emotion. The 4.2 FSI propels the coupé's 1,725 kilograms (3,802.97 pounds) in 4.6 seconds from 0 to 100 km/h (0 to 62.14 mph) to an electronically governed top speed of 250 km/h (155.34 mph). Audi can increase that to 280 km/h (173.98 mph) upon request.

Impressive efficiency: just 10.8 liters of fuel per 100 km

Efficiency is standard in every Audi; the Audi RS5 is no exception. The ultra-powerful eight-cylinder engine averages 10.8 liters of fuel per 100 kilometers (21.78 miles US mpg) - far less than its main competitors. This impressive figure is due in part to the technologies from the Audi modular efficiency platform. The engine and the entire drivetrain have been optimized to minimize friction, the oil pump operates on demand, and an energy-recovery system conserves energy during coasting and braking.

The standard seven-speed S tronic in the Audi RS5 - with its high efficiency ratio and its high-geared top speed - also enhances efficiency. It consists of two clutches and two subsidiary transmissions. Both subsidiary transmissions are continuously active, but only one is powered at any given time by the engine. Gears are alternately shifted by the two clutches - at lightning speed, smoothly, and almost imperceptibly.

The seven-speed S tronic, which was specially reinforced to accommodate the high-revving V8, can operate in fully automatic mode - or the driver can shift via the innovative selector lever or shift paddles on the steering wheel. By means of the standard Audi drive select, the driver can switch in automatic mode among three different options: auto, comfort, and dynamic. In the launch control program, the seven-speed S tronic ensures flawless acceleration from a standstill - at full power and with minimal tire slip.

New quattro technology: the crown-gear differential

Like all RS models, the Audi RS5 also applies its power to the road with quattro permanent all-wheel drive. As for the center differential, which regulates power distribution between the front and rear axles, Audi - the leading all-wheel-drive brand - unveils the next generation: a crown-gear differential.

The self-locking crown-gear center differential is compact and lightweight - and attains a high efficiency ratio.

Thanks to its package of plates, the differential can widely vary the distribution of torque between the front and rear axles. If necessary, up to 70 percent can flow to the front or as much as 85 percent toward the tail end. The 40:60 ratio of the standard rear-biased configuration ensures sporty handling.

This new differential operates in conjunction with electronic torque vectoring, which affects all four wheels. If one of the inside wheels becomes imbalanced while the vehicle is at its operational limits, then the system slightly decelerates the wheel to obviate wheel spin. This results in terrific traction on the one hand while generating a yaw moment which aids cornering.

As a perfect complement to the new quattro drivetrain, Audi can optionally position the sport differential at the rear axle. It actively distributes torque between the rear wheels in order to further boost stability and grip at the vehicle's limits of handling. The electronic management of the Audi RS5 sport differential was designed to be uncompromisingly dynamic.

With regard to the springs, shock absorbers, elastokinematics, and the anti-roll bars, the Audi RS5 chassis exhibits a sporty configuration and renders the body 20 millimeters (0.79 inches) lower than that of the Audi A5. The 19-inch alloy wheels fitted with 265/35 tires are standard. They are executed in an exclusive 5-arm structure design. The Audi RS5 optionally comes with 20-inch wheels and 275/30 tires. Winter wheels featuring the same dimensions are available; the 19-inch wheel is suitable for snow chains.

The brake system employs powerful and internally ventilated discs, which measure 365 millimeters (14.37 inches) in diameter at the front axle. In order to maximize the dissipation of heat, the steel friction rings are perforated and connected by pins to the aluminum brake discs. The high-gloss black brake calipers bearing RS logos are likewise made of aluminum; the front calipers are fitted with eight pistons each. Audi can optionally fit the front axle with ceramic carbon-fiber brake discs measuring 380 millimeters (14.96 inches) in diameter. They are extremely lightweight, strong, and durable. The electronic stabilization program (ESP) integrates a sport mode and can be switched off entirely.

Even more dynamics: Audi drive select

The speed-dependent servotronic steering in the Audi RS5 is especially taut. The standard Audi drive select (a vehicle-dynamics control system) allows the driver to switch among three modes of operation - comfort, auto, and dynamic - to adjust steering, the seven-speed S tronic, the sport differential, the engine, and the exhaust system. And if the car is equipped with the MMI navigation system, a fourth mode allows the driver to customize their own profile.

As regards the engine, Audi drive select controls the exhaust system's two throttle valves and the sound flaps; when they open, the rich sound becomes even more resonant. Along with the sport differential, dynamic steering is another optional component of Audi drive select. Dynamic steering adjusts the steering ratio to a vehicle's speed - directly for maneuvering at low speeds and indirectly for traveling at highway speeds. At the vehicle's cornering limits, it automatically ensures smooth handling via minor corrective actions.

The Audi RS5 exudes an athletic and powerful identity; its classically beautiful coupé styling dazzles with new and clear-cut accents. Its single-frame grille bears a shiny charcoal-gray rhombus-pattern grid. Xenon plus headlights boasting a sweeping strip of LED daytime running lights are standard. The oversized air inlets for the engine, front brakes, and the radiators are bordered by striking contours. The newly designed bumper tapers downward into a splitter.

The flared fenders with the crisp horizontal upper edges are reminiscent of a classic Audi: namely, the all-wheel-drive pioneer Audi quattro, which itself debuted at the Geneva Auto Show 30 years ago. The side sills bear angular caps; the trim strips on the single-frame grille and near the side windows as well as the outside mirrors' covers feature a matt aluminum look. Eight different paint finishes are available.

The tail end is dominated by two oval exhaust pipes integrated within the bumper. A large diffuser protrudes prominently upward. The spoiler in the tailgate automatically extends at a speed of 120 km/h (74.56 mph) and retracts at 80 km/h (49.71 mph).

The extensively clad underbody of the Audi RS5 integrates air vents for the seven-speed S tronic and the front brakes. At highway speeds, the aerodynamic characteristics of the Audi RS5 generate downforce to further enhance stability.

Dynamic elegance: the interior

The vehicle's dynamically elegant styling extends to the interior. Sports seats with pronounced side sections and integrated head restraints are standard. They are electrically adjustable and feature a leather/Alcantara combination. Alternatives include bucket seats with more prominent contours and folding backrests or ventilated and luxuriously upholstered climate-controlled comfort seats.

The steering wheel has a substantial rim and is covered with perforated leather. The instruments have black gauges and white lettering with distinctive scaling. When the ignition is switched on, the red needles briefly rise high and then drop back down. The driver information system integrates a lap timer for recording circuit times and an oil-temperature gauge. Just like the optional MMI navigation systems' monitor, it displays an RS greeting upon ignition.

The interior is black and the decorative inlays are made of carbon fiber. A fascia in the instrument panel features a piano finish. The pedals, the footrests, and the optional MMI navigation systems' control buttons gleam thanks to their aluminum look. Moreover, the door handles consist of two slim strips - typical of Audi RS models. Aluminum inserts adorn the door sill trims and RS5 logos lend dynamic highlights to the interior.

Upon request, truly exclusive features such as decorative inlays with a dark, stainless-steel mesh look, a black piano finish or brushed aluminum are available. Or seat upholstery featuring special leathers and colors as well as silver headlining. In addition, the Audi exclusive RS program offers options such as suede-covered controls and floor mats bearing RS5 logos.

A Carbon design package is available for the engine compartment and, for the vehicle body, there are styling packages in black or matt aluminum look. And the acoustically bold Sport exhaust system - also with a sound flap - has black tailpipe trims.

Sales of the Audi RS5 will begin in the spring of 2010. Its basic price will be approximately 77,700 euros.

[MihokS5]

Thanks Kreso! Any pics of the engine?

[KresoF1]

http://photo.netcarshow.com/Audi-RS5_2011_photo_01.jpg
http://photo.netcarshow.com/Audi-RS5_2011_photo_02.jpg
http://photo.netcarshow.com/Audi-RS5_2011_photo_03.jpg
http://photo.netcarshow.com/Audi-RS5_2011_photo_04.jpg
http://photo.netcarshow.com/Audi-RS5_2011_photo_05.jpg
http://photo.netcarshow.com/Audi-RS5_2011_photo_06.jpg
http://photo.netcarshow.com/Audi-RS5_2011_photo_07.jpg

Red is Misano Red Pearleffekt-on leaked pics it is PS-ed little bit...

More info including 0-200km/h official time is coming soon...

HINT! 10s faster on the Ring then old RS4.

[MihokS5]

Thank you sir!

[iconcls]

The 4.2 FSI provides imposing torque...of 430 Nm (317.15 lb-ft)

LOL, funny stuff indeed.

[AudiRS4ever]

Ok, now the big question. Is it coming to the US? Surely you can tell us that.

[S6V10Avant]

430 Nm of torque, what a weakling.. 4,6 is slow to 100 km/h, already beaten by many comparable cars.. However, it looks good.

[KresoF1]

430 Nm of torque, what a weakling.. 4,6 is slow to 100 km/h, already beaten by many comparable cars.. However, it looks good.

RS5 main competitors are M3 and C63AMG. C63 is maybe faster in straight line and definitely slower on any track/windy road/wet road. M3 also.

Read the press release carefully-there are some new things used for the first time in RS models...

[RXBG]

so-

1. new quattro- with a front AND rear torque vectoring
2. NO ACTIVE SUSPENSION- did i read that right? no damper control?
3. much better fuel econ (real life- we'll see- rolls eyes)
4. no torque increase- basically the old RS4 engine with a bit more rev and better fuel econ
5. same weight as S5 despie beefier set up- no info on any body panel changes- still alum and steel.
6. DSG
7. big ass tires

sounds compelling and disappointing- i don't think the 0-200 times will be anything to write home about. where it will shine is in the handling department.

i am pretty sure it'll be sold in the states.

i give it a B+/A-

[Zyklon5]

For such a long wait they could have thrown in some weight saving measures. :nana:

[biker14]

Why would someone care if this car goes to 0-100 in 4.6 sec and not 4.5 or 4.4, unless they are drag racing with it? Do you think 0.1 or 0.2 seconds will count for anything on the road or around a track? I used to have a 996 Turbo, 420 HP, 4WD and believe me, I didn't know what the car would do from 0-100, simply because with so much power under your foot, who cares?

[RXBG]

Why would someone care if this car goes to 0-100 in 4.6 sec and not 4.5 or 4.4, ?

armchair racers. that's why. we all have one inside us- have you ever met a GTR owner ;P

[The Pretender]

Audi have chosen 100% the wrong engine for it.
This would be a 10x better engine IMHO.

Engine:

3.0 TFSI, V6 gasoline engine with supercharging and FSI gasoline direct injection
Max. power output in kW (hp): 300 (408) at 6,000 – 7,000 rpm
Max. torque in Nm (lb-ft): 500 (369) at 3,000 – 5,500 rpm

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_FoXyvaPSnVk/ShK2K_OBumI/AAAAAAABww0/_eNLoUDij8s/s1600/Audi-Q5-S-1.jpg

[mbolo]

Interesting read, I'm not sure what I feel right now. If they bring this thing out in an RS5 Sportback I'd definitely be interested. Was just expecting a little more from a hard-core coupe that's all. Although sure, It'll be a delight to drive and own - no doubt about it.

[KresoF1]

Audi have chosen 100% the wrong engine for it.
This would be a 10x better engine IMHO.

Engine:

3.0 TFSI, V6 gasoline engine with supercharging and FSI gasoline direct injection
Max. power output in kW (hp): 300 (408) at 6,000 – 7,000 rpm
Max. torque in Nm (lb-ft): 500 (369) at 3,000 – 5,500 rpm



Do you know all important facts about this factory TUNED engine?

NO?

You need to know that extra few things about that engine before posting something like you did. Do you really think that COMPLETE quattro Gmbh technical stuff are total morons? In that case they need to hire you as head of engine development.

According to 99% of your post from last 12 months you like only R8 and TT. Only Audi engines that you like are 3.0TFSI mentioned above and 2.5TFSI from TT RS. Are you sure that Audi is your favourite brand?

I really do not want to be rude here but, most RS5 bashers simply do not have a clue what they are talking about.

NO, RS5 is not an Nissan GT-R beater-that car is pretty unique-just it is soo pushed to the limit that my friend sold one with just 10000km on clock with gearbox and engine total failure.

RS5 is sportscoupe-a great one in fact. It is as fast on the Ring as R8 V8-that's enough IMHO.

There are planty other NON NA engine sportscar and sportcoupes on the market: Audi TTRS, Nissan GT-R, Porsche 997.2 Turbo just to mention a few-pick one and they will not fail to deliver.

[biker14]

armchair racers. that's why. we all have one inside us- have you ever met a GTR owner ;P

Nah, I never even saw one being driven on the road here... maybe they're just not fast enough to catch me? :P

[S3-lover]

Don't get me wrong this thing is reall really hot. Some things i don't like include the fact AUDI has done away with "conventional RS styling" and now following the looks of a TT-RS

other dissapointments include:

- waiting so long for this thing, only for it to come out with an ancient normally aspirated engine (same power a C63 AMG had 3 years ago with wayyyyy less torque.

- where is the damn turbo's, can't get over the fact that its 3 years newer yet slower than a C63 :(

- Styling at the back would look amazing if it was not a direct copy of a maser gran turismo
9430

- The "concept" photos of last year from car magazine UK head to head with the M3 looked way better plus had the fairytale twin turbo engine :)

- No flat bottom steering wheel looks the same as any other boring audi sedan eg: plain A4

- No special wheel option like on RS4, some of the wheels do look good very similar to ones on the TT-RS but nothing that makes you go wow like on the RS4 or RS6

- Nothing in the interior makes you think your driving a special car, unless you get those recaros, looks just like any other A5 interior

- Exterior styling is gorgeous, but more GT than aggressive sports car, where is the FLARED WHEEL ARCHES??????

- Hope it sounds good, just seems like Audi missed a trick here with giving it similar power to a "old" c63 AMG. Audi are getting left behind, i sometimes wonder if they really were testing two engines at the same time and they chose this one because maybe the twin turbo V8 was not reliable enough, so they just decided to raid damaged RS4, take their engines put a new airbox and exhaust in to make a little more power and call it an RS5. What other reason is there for taking so long?

- That body in sprint blue, lighter chassis, flared wheel arches and a twin turbo V8 and i would have put my name down... alas :(

[QuattroFun]

Well, I really like the engine, gearbox and exterior. The interior is okay, but not mind-blowing like the RS4's was when it was first shown. The good news is no DRC (great when it works, but alas too fragile). ADS is kind of silly and useless IMO - modes for exhaust and gearbox yes, steering and sport diff no. However, a dry weight of 1725kg (S5 1630) is not exactly little - it will be dynamically good I am sure, but it remains to be seen if it is dynamic in the same way as the RS6 (hard track numbers much better than it feels from behind the wheel). The basic price is more competitive than I feared. I am considering getting one/waiting for first tests and test drive.

[The RS6]

Nice post Kreso! There are too many guys dissatisfied here with that engine, come on, do you all really think quattro would make a "not good enough" car? Last few cars are RS4 (awesome), R8 (phenomenal), RS6 (perfect in doing what it's made for - autobahn), TT-RS(beats its competitors easily)...

If anyone wants a turbo engine there are many cars to choose from, but if you want a high-revving coupe...there's only one! R S 5

In normal road conditions with normal drivers behind the wheel (which 99% of us are) it will be faster than most cars you'll ever come across.

[RXBG]

Kreso- take it easy man. everyone can post their views. the Pretender is respectful about it, so respond in kind. no need to start a personal fireball throwing contest.

back on topic please. both you guys are great contributors here. lets have a drink and chill.

[KresoF1]

Kreso- take it easy man. everyone can post their views. the Pretender is respectful about it, so respond in kind. no need to start a personal fireball throwing contest.

back on topic please. both you guys are great contributors here. lets have a drink and chill.

R.,

I fully agree with you. Temperature is down...

Just, in my view we have far too many Audi bashers recently here on rs6.com-maybe you will not agree with me on this...

Your R8 V8 is still totally awsome sportscar IMHO, I enjoyed mine a lot and I was sad when I sold it. But, many members here bashed R8 V8... When R8 V10 showed up-same story:"...why Audi did not put 5.0TFSI inside with 600hp?" asked some members here... TT RS intro:"...oh totally wrong gearbox(manual)-we want S Tronic(and they will get it in summer 2010-my remark)" Should I continue?
I WONT.

Back OT. Personally, I like new RS5 as much as I like R8 V10-awsome cars.

[AudiRS4ever]

I think a valid concern I have is what has Audi done about the Carbon build-up problem they have been having with the FSI V8? I loved the motor when I got my first RS4, but have read so much about the carbon problems that I am a little bit leary of this motor right now. Obviously Audi knows the problem or there wouldn't be TSB's. Is there anything they have done to this engine to try and alleviate they problem? I am specifically asking this to Kreso since he would know.

[Sims]

R.,

Back OT. Personally, I like new RS5 as much as I like R8 V10-awsome cars.

Is this really a BMW M6 competitor?

[Sims]

I think a valid concern I have is what has Audi done about the Cabon build-up problem they have been having with the FSI V8? I loved the motor when I got my first RS4, but have read so much about the carbon problems that I am a little bit leary of this motor right now. Obviously Audi knows the problem or there wouldn't be TSB's. Is there anything they have done to this engine to try and alleviate they problem? I am specifically asking this to Kreso since he would know.

Yes please, do tell for one hears all types of horror stories. Is the RS5 motor sufficiently different to the RS4 to have resolved any problem?

[IulianUM]

I like the car , only disappointments are , the weight and the steering wheel .:hahahehe:
I was expecting 4.5s at best so .... have you seen the 0-100 km/h of the R8V8 ?

Almost forgot Quattrofun , why you don´t like the Sport diff ? The press release says:
"The electronic management of the Audi RS5 sport differential was designed to be uncompromisingly dynamic."

I am waiting for the tests too , and looking for help on what to choose for the Rs5 .

[biker14]

When some of you say the interior doesn't do it for you, it's bland, etc, you are comparing this car with ... ?

[RXBG]

biker- no competitor comes close to the RS5 in the interior dept. not sure how anyone can bash. what is the alternative- the interior of an M3 or ...stretching it a bit- the interior of a base carrera? yikes.

on another note- i fully expect the enthusisast treatment of any new car- we always see what it doesn't have, rather than what it does have. one thing i do not thinkm it will have is an extravagant price. with no DRC the price should be reasonable, the engine is essentially carryover, and the DSG is a 2K option in the S5 cabrio- so what is there to charge so much more for? if audi prices it right it'll be a steal.

[AudiRS4ever]

Let's hope this isn't true. If it is, Audi is surely missing the boat. They have nothing in America to compete with BMW M or Mercedes AMG. :nono: Anyway, from Automobile Mag this morning:

"Those requests will likely come from customers from outside North America, as the RS5 -- much like the TT RS -- isn’t launching in our market. Audi’s product planners are, however, still trying to iron out a case for bringing this car stateside."

http://rumors.automobilemag.com/6643761/news/first-look-2010-audi-rs5/index.html

[KresoF1]

I think a valid concern I have is what has Audi done about the Carbon build-up problem they have been having with the FSI V8? I loved the motor when I got my first RS4, but have read so much about the carbon problems that I am a little bit leary of this motor right now. Obviously Audi knows the problem or there wouldn't be TSB's. Is there anything they have done to this engine to try and alleviate they problem? I am specifically asking this to Kreso since he would know.

According to my info-new engine will not have problem that you mentioned. Just-fuel quality will be very important with new engine.

BTW, Carbon build up is also noticed on Porsche DI engines and on some BMW DI engines as well. Both Porsche and BMW claim that problem is mostly fuel quality related.

[AudiRS4ever]

^^^^^^^^Thanks Kreso.^^^^^^^^^ Any insight to the post I just made from Automobile Mag? Say it ain't so. PLEASE BRING AN RS CAR OVER HERE!!!!!!

[KresoF1]

^^^^^^^^Thanks Kreso.^^^^^^^^^ Any insight to the post I just made from Automobile Mag? Say it ain't so. PLEASE BRING AN RS CAR OVER HERE!!!!!!

Audi USA press site is saying this: "Please note, there is no information regarding U.S. availability of the RS 5 at this time."

[Sims]

According to my info-new engine will not have problem that you mentioned. Just-fuel quality will be very important with new engine. .

So there a problem with the old engine, and not just with the fuel? Does the RS5 need minimum 97 octane




BTW, Carbon build up is also noticed on Porsche DI engines and on some BMW DI engines as well. Both Porsche and BMW claim that problem is mostly fuel quality related. Ok, that's good to know. I shall buy a Ferrari. lol.. Seriously why did the RS4 motors suffer high oil consumption?

[QuattroFun]

I like the car , only disappointments are , the weight and the steering wheel .:hahahehe:
I was expecting 4.5s at best so .... have you seen the 0-100 km/h of the R8V8 ?

Almost forgot Quattrofun , why you don´t like the Sport diff ? The press release says:
"The electronic management of the Audi RS5 sport differential was designed to be uncompromisingly dynamic."

I am waiting for the tests too , and looking for help on what to choose for the Rs5 .

I most definately like the sport diff as such and IT SHOULD BE STANDARD - however, what I do not like is the trendy messing with the different modes and this very much goes for steering as well. RS5's active steering as an option sounds frightening I say, but thankfully it is just an option. Always sporty by default is what it should be without unnecessary buttons - RS4 Mk II with SS+ that is. For example, have you ever driven a M3 with M Drive & EDC and everything (accidentally) set to comfort? Total mightmare and completely useless - even a Volvo V70 feels like sports car by comparison IMO. The non-M Drive and non-EDC set-up in my M3 strikes a nice balance and I fully expect the dynamic mode (should be default) to be the same in RS5.

Re: interior. RS4 Mk II was great benchmark among non-exotics in its time. I should know. And no, I did not buy the M3 for the interior although I personally think that is okay too as 2007 fashion in full black leather including panel trim as I have.

[KresoF1]

Seriously why did the RS4 motors suffer high oil consumption?

Good question. High oil consumption was noticable mostly on first 5000kms or so. After around 8000kms oil consumption dropped to normal level for this engine. But, still oil consumtion is on higher side since there is a little bit akward thing with piston rings design on RS4/R8 engines. Lets say it-if you use your engine with carefull procedure(low throttle until oil temperature is high enough, carefull break-in period etc.) you can expect no problems.

RS5 engine key componets are redesigned and even some parts use different materials.

[Randy M]

Like many others I'm dissapointed that Audi chose another NA engine for the RS5. But I'm not overlooking all of the other performance enhancements the RS5 has over my RS4. Torque vectoring quattro is a huge advancement, the chassis improvements, DSG, the engine certainly looks like it'll breathe better, and the interior is beautiful as are those boxed fenders. If I were to trade up I'd be hard pressed to not pick the RS5 over something else.

What colors are available? I'm thinking Monza Silver w/ the titanium package would look awesome...:heart:

[Sims]

Good question. High oil consumption was noticable mostly on first 5000kms or so. After around 8000kms oil consumption dropped to normal level for this engine. But, still oil consumtion is on higher side since there is a little bit akward thing with piston rings design on RS4/R8 engines. Lets say it-if you use your engine with carefull procedure(low throttle until oil temperature is high enough, carefull break-in period etc.) you can expect no problems.

RS5 engine key componets are redesigned and even some parts use different materials.

Tks for that. The tech at my dealer told me " the problem with the RS4 is because it revs so high, and the breather system (thats supposed to send oily vapor back into the engine) cant cope at the high revs and is actually sending large oil droplets (one of the reasons they burn so much oil) then the EGR sticks to the oil droplets and you get sticky oily carbon on the inlet valve. he suggested putting a race car breather system, with a big catch tank, on the engine, then it wouldnt happen". Is that one of the changes to the RS5?

[Sims]

Like many others I'm dissapointed that Audi chose another NA engine for the RS5. But I'm not overlooking all of the other performance enhancements the RS5 has over my RS4. Torque vectoring quattro is a huge advancement, the chassis improvements, DSG, the engine certainly looks like it'll breathe better, and the interior is beautiful as are those boxed fenders. If I were to trade up I'd be hard pressed to not pick the RS5 over something else.

What colors are available? I'm thinking Monza Silver w/ the titanium package would look awesome...:heart:

Good post, but Audi would know what is best for development of the RS ethos. Choosing colours already, that's good.

[BaXRS4]

I adore it... RS5 is awesome car, interior is PORN, Exterior same thing, engine is good enough for me, High reeving coupe, my wish comes true...
RS5 is fast as R8 V8, that is why this thing is my next RS car...

When I wont to drag RS2 with 600whp is there ;)

[Lmg]

Reading that press release got me even more excited! :)

Lots of stuff that will make the RS5 a great driver's car, for sure.

And this...



HINT! 10s faster on the Ring then old RS4.

...sounds very good. :D

Btw...

Kresof1, could you please tell us what are the maximum revs of the engine?

[Benman]

I'm kind of new to the forum, so not really in a position to tell anyone what to do here, but... I really don't understand this bashing either. This is an Audi RS forum right...

If it makes any sense, keep in mind Icon (like myself) is an original RS 6 owner and up until the MkII RS 4, ALL RS cars were TURBO, so....

[S6V10Avant]

Why was this car not released one or two years ago? The technology is old (except for the 4wd system). This package has obviously been decided by a combination of finance and marketing department, not quattro gmbh. They would have choosen 3.0 TFSI or 2.5 TFSI coupled to some weight saving modfications. Unfortunately the RS5 will loose over the upcoming M3 in all counts, not to mention a supercharged S5.. The reason for my huge disappointment is that I had forseen this as my next car, but now I have to consider other options.

[The Pretender]

I think a valid concern I have is what has Audi done about the Carbon build-up problem they have been having with the FSI V8? I loved the motor when I got my first RS4, but have read so much about the carbon problems that I am a little bit leary of this motor right now. Obviously Audi knows the problem or there wouldn't be TSB's. Is there anything they have done to this engine to try and alleviate they problem? I am specifically asking this to Kreso since he would know.
The carbon build-up is not only a V8 problem, it's a direct injection problem.
It's also a big 2.0TFSI problem.

[Lmg]

Unfortunately the RS5 will loose over the upcoming M3 in all counts

I have to disagree.

Look at KresoF1's posts:


HINT! 10s faster on the Ring then old RS4.


RS5 is sportscoupe-a great one in fact. It is as fast on the Ring as R8 V8-that's enough IMHO.

RS4's ring time is 8:09 m, so the RS5 will be around 7:59, about 6 seconds than the M3 (8:05 m)

Also:


RS5 main competitors are M3 and C63AMG. C63 is maybe faster in straight line and definitely slower on any track/windy road/wet road. M3 also.

[roadrunner]

...
HINT! 10s faster on the Ring then old RS4
...

If this info is correct, and i regard KresoF1 as a very trustworthy source...

10 SECONDS :MTM: FASTER than B7 RS4 (with ONLY 30 HP more)

I repeat: TEN seconds faster

If you don't see the capabilities of the RS5 there, than there is no hope for you ;)


BTW: same procedure as every year...

I remember how bashed the B7 RS4 was, before it has benn driven 1 meter by anyone outside of Audi. Turned out to be the best RS Audi with a phenomenal engine.

One last time: TEN seconds faster :revs:

[iconcls]

This package has obviously been decided by a combination of finance and marketing department, not quattro gmbh.

Precisely what I was going to say, this a total "bean counter" car; I think quattro GmbH may have been allowed input on the color choices though.

[The Pretender]

I'm dissapointed that Audi can not keep the weight down for RS cars specially and all Audi's in general.
The RS6 V10 is a awesome piece of machinery but with 2000+ Kg not really RS material IMHO, the same can be said of the RS5 (at least 200 Kg to heavy).
Even the TT RS weigh more the the TT 3.2 VR6 quattro.

[roadrunner]

For all the ones complaining about lack of RS wheels

http://www.rs6.com/AudiRS5/AudiRS5-3.jpg

Looks like new RS wheels to me

[Randy M]

Colors please?

[Bobbersmill]

Ive never known people cast so many negative comments about a car that a) has not yet been tested or reviewed b) that they really no very little about in the real world. Ill reserve judgement untill I have driven one.
Each to their own but I think it looks really nice and Im certain that in the flesh as with the RS4 and 6 it will look stunning, it actually photographs better than the aforementioned so that bodes well for looks in real life. Unfortunatley the wait for me last year was too long and I ended up buying a gen 2 C4s but may consider ditching depending on how it drives.
Will the optics pack be available? I quite fancy a Daytonna grey with optics or phantom black with grey wheels and optics.
With a price of 77k euros I wonder what the tag will be in the UK?

[Sims]

Ive never known people cast so many negative comments about a car that a) has not yet been tested or reviewed b) that they really no very little about in the real world. Ill reserve judgement untill I have driven one.
Each to their own but I think it looks really nice and Im certain that in the flesh as with the RS4 and 6 it will look stunning, it actually photographs better than the aforementioned so that bodes well for looks in real life. Unfortunatley the wait for me last year was too long and I ended up buying a gen 2 C4s but may consider ditching depending on how it drives.
Will the optics pack be available? I quite fancy a Daytonna grey with optics or phantom black with grey wheels and optics.
With a price of 77k euros I wonder what the tag will be in the UK?

77k Euros equates to £68k at current rates, but i suppose the basic UK price is likely to be £60k.

[iconcls]

Colors please?

Oh wait, those are the same tired-ass colors of before (too).

Nevermind.

[RXBG]

dont forget- audi will have to put this engine in the V8 R8, if they havent planned on phasing out the V8 altogether.

[biker14]

If it makes any sense, keep in mind Icon (like myself) is an original RS 6 owner and up until the MkII RS 4, ALL RS cars were TURBO, so....

Yeah ok, but in the end I guess it is all down to people's expectations...

To me, for what I want it for this car is perfect - a day to day car, not to flashy like a GTR or a Porsche, nice on the outside and confortable and classy on the inside, good if I want to trash it a bit when I'm alone on an open road (or a track) but also good to take the wife and two small kids safely on a trip in all kinds of weather. Like I said, expectations. This car is for a niche market, and I'm sure Audi built it to sell as many as they could, not to beat the GTR on a track, to be faster then the C63 AMG from 0-100 or to be able to tune it to 1.000 HP, like some people seemed to expect...

re: Interior
I had an E46 M3 which I loved, and so I went for a test drive in the E92 M3 and one of things I really didn't like about the car was the interior... no different from any another 3 Series, except the M logo here and there. But that wasn't why I didn't buy the car. That's another different story :)

[Randy M]

Colors please?

Found the choices on Glasurit:

Daytona Grey
Ice Silver
Ibis White
Misano Red
Monza Silver (YES..!!!)
Mugello Blue
Phantom Black
Sepang Blue
Suzuka Grey (Another YES...!!!)

Very tough to choose between Monza Silver and Suzuka Grey.

[ChicagoAudi]

Unlike many of the naysayer on this thread, Audi has achieved much with the new RS5. Many of the postings are mere picayunes. BMW's M3 GTR requires a hand constructed 4.4L V8 to reach the same 450bhp developed by the 4.2L Audi V8, this in itself is a mighty achievement. Recall that no other than Jeremy Clarkson called the RS4 variant of this engine "Biblical" and the new variant appears to improve upon that one.

Audi, contrary to the motherlode of negative energy expended on RS6.com, has carefully considered the market, and the ongoing economic conditions, to develop a car that is more affordable than the past RS4 and RS6, yet continues the trend of innovation for the sake of performance. The B7 RS4 ushered in a new versus of quattro with the 40:60 torque split, and the new RS5 provides no exception. The early press release emphatically states that a new self-locking crown gear center differential with electronic torque vectoring is used instead of the Torsen based units used on previous versions of quattro. Over the next few weeks, I am positive that Audi will provide additional information on the advances made to quattro.

Another major step forward is the introduction of a seven-speed S-tronic system compared with the manuals and automatics found on other RS cars. Unlike the S-tronic found in the S4, this version incorporated launch control. One would imagine that the acceleration times will be lower than what Audi officially lists.

[PeterJohn]

The weight is disappointing. Are they still planning to do anything with those lightweight prototypes? Perhaps that rumoured "Sport Quattro" version. That being said, the GT-R is plenty fast with similar weight.

Reading the press release, the car is obviously a handling laboratory. The engine makes sense in that respect. Fairly lightweight with a linear power delivery.

They've met the challenge of the GT-R and updated the quattro system. It's not as powerful as the GT-R, but you'll spend a lot less time at the gas station, and that drivetrain, we can safely conclude, is unreliable.

Don't forget Audis' tendency to greatly understate acceleration times.

I get it. Losing weight costs money (GT3 RS minus 20kg, plus €20k), power costs money, developing and tuning a new AWD system costs money, the "premium" factor costs money. There are a lot of things they've could've done, and every one of them would ad to the price. I think it's a good price for a good package. It doesn't bother me one bit if it's slower on the ring. How many GT-R owners will actually drive their car on the ring? Or get anywhere near the time Nissan set? The way most people drive and use their automobile, for the daily commuter experience, this is a much better car. Why does everything have to be so extreme? Who are you trying to impress? And why would Audi build cars for people who are never satisfied anyway. You don't want to compete with a GT-R, because it is compromised, it's a fad, and its niche will soon be saturated. Where's the Toyota Supra? The Honda NSX?

And when you factor in the resale value, I think the RS5 will be one of the cheaper options.

[Benman]

Unlike many of the naysayer on this thread...

Actually, there are very few naysayers here. Just a couple. I personally really like it.

Even us RS 6 owners should own up to the fact that we were also hassled about the fact the RS 6 was the first RS without a manual, and we all still loved it. ;)

Ben :addict:

[chewym]

Speaking of the engines, the 2.5T and 3.0T are not all that much lighter. And both would have to run a lot more boost to get to 450 horsepower, thus limiting their mainstream appeal. There is a reason why the S4 has a 3.0T and not a super boosted 2.0T. And it might not even be possible to place the 2.5T longitudinally as the V10 is rumored to not fit in the A5. And there is also a difference between a tuner squishing an engine and taking into serviceability and other factors.

As for the comparisons with the C63, there is nothing Audi can do. The 4.2 V8 can't be bored out or enlarged in any way. So it's stuck with its displacement. Like I said before, the only way to get a bigger displacement V8 into an Audi is to borrow Porsche's V8.

And as we have seen the twin turbo V8 is not ready yet. Also things would get complicated with a 480 horsepower twin turbo V8 RS5 significantly outperforming the R8 V8.

[mccobr]

I can't fault this car. It is perfect for me. Glad I put down deposit 6m ago. Phantom Black please. Stronic will be great, it's amazing in GTR but it's not my cup of tea (lookswise or interior).

Find it a little strange that people can be so unhappy before it has even been driven outside the confines of Audi, but each to their own of course.

KresoF1 you mentioned you had seen the options list I think. Is a sunroof an option? Are there many standard bits like the RS6? I realise it will be different in different countries. And thank you for all your previous accurate posts.

[artur777]

Twin turbo RS5 is our dream. The engine is the only disappointment - besides, the car is very smart and complete package..,
hope we see FI engine in the next generation

[Sims]

.... Also things would get complicated with a 480 horsepower twin turbo V8 RS5 significantly outperforming the R8 V8.

so so true, now that skoda, seat?, vw, audi, porsche & some others are all in the same family, they will carefully tune how good any brand/model can be in the pecking order.

[Lmg]

Is a sunroof an option?

It seems so.

Look at the bottom center of this brochure scan:

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee239/Dark_and_Divine/RECOM-CGI_AUDI_RS5_30.jpg

There's a photo of an RS5 with a sunroof.

[artur777]

And please dont write bad things about GTR. Updated 2011 GTR is a reliable and very potent car - the only downside is interior and ride quality...

A lot of my mates bought GTR becausr of its attractive price for this level of performance

[itisme]

Autobild:

Schluss mit der Geheimniskrämerei, jetzt lässt Audi die Katze aus dem Sack: Nachdem die ersten Bilder des neuen Audi RS 5 bereits am vergangenen Wochenende durchs Internet geisterten, hat Audi jetzt das komplette Infopaket zum RS 5 veröffentlicht. Auf dem Genfer Autosalon 2010 wird die Volkswagen-Tochter das sportliche Topmodell der A5-Reihe präsentieren. Vor allem V8-Fans werden den RS 5 bejubeln: Das Super-Coupé trägt keinen zwangsbeatmeten V6 wie S5 Cabrio und Sportback unter der Haube, sondern einen 4,2 Liter großen Achtzylinder, der nach dem Hochdrehzahlkonzept arbeitet und 450 PS serienmäßig auf alle vier Räder verteilt – Allradantrieb quattro eben. Der Motor ist eng verwandt mit dem V10 im Audi R8 und lässt sich in Drehzahlbereiche bis 8250 Touren jagen – damit heult er fast auf dem Niveau des Vierliter-V8 aus dem aktuellen BMW M3 (bis 8300/min).

Im RS 5 tritt der kraftstrotzende V8 gegen 1725 Kg Fahrzeuggewicht an. Zwischen 4000 und 6000 u/min liegen bullige 430 Nm an. Wer das Gaspedal durchtritt, katapultiert sich im RS 5 binnen 4,6 s auf Tempo 100, bei 250 wird abgeregelt. Auf Wunsch hebt Audi die Sperre aber auf – dann sind locker 280 Sachen möglich. Die von Audi angegebenen 10,8l Durchschnittsverbrauch werden bei extremer Fahrweise allerdings kaum zu schaffen sein. Geschaltet wird über das Siebengang-Doppelkupplungsgetriebe "S tronic". Neben den drei Fahrmodi "Auto", "Comfort" und "Dynamic" verfügt das Getriebe auch über eine Launch Control für bessere Beschleunigung aus dem Stand.


Der V8 bollert durch zwei dicke ovale Endrohre. Für noch schärferen Sound liefert Audi auf Wunsch eine Klappensteuerung. Beim quattro-Antrieb des RS 5 setzt Audi eine neue Technik ein: Am Mittendifferenzial, das die Kräfte zwischen Vorder- und Hinterachse verteilt, sitzt jetzt ein sogenanntes Kronenraddifferenzial. Dank seiner Lamellenpakete kann es die Verteilung der Momente zwischen Vorder- und Hinterachse breit variieren: Bei Bedarf strömen bis zu 70 Prozent nach vorn und maximal 85 Prozent nach hinten. Das straff abgestimmte Fahrwerk lässt die RS 5-Karosse 20 Millimeter tiefer über den Asphalt schürfen als einen zivilen A5. Leichtmetallräder im Format 19 Zoll mit Reifen der Größe 265/35 sind Serie. Auf Wunsch rollt der RS 5 auf 20-Zöllern mit Reifen im Format 275/30. Die Bremsanlage arbeitet mit innenbelüfteten Scheiben – an der Vorderachse haben sie 365 Millimeter Durchmesser. Auf Wunsch montiert Audi auch 380er-Scheiben aus Keramik.

Das Gesicht des RS 5 ist geprägt vom klassischen Singleframe-Grill. Breite Lufteinlässe versorgen den V8 und die Bremsanlage mit Kühlluft. Am Heck bollern zwei ovale Endrohre, ein Diffusor sorgt für Abtrieb – und für bleibenden Eindruck beim Hintermann. Der Spoiler in der Heckklappe fährt bei 120 km/h aus. Das Cockpit des RS 5 ist komplett in Schwarz gehalten. Sportsitze mit Leder-Alcantara-Bezug und integrierten Kopfstützen sind Serie, gegen Aufpreis sind auch Schalensitze zu haben. Pedale, Fußstützen und Bedientasten des MMI-Navigations systems (optional) glänzen in Aluminiumoptik, die Türöffner bestehen – typisch RS – aus zwei schmalen Stegen. Auf Wunsch sind weitere vornehme Features zu haben – etwa Dekors in dunklem Edelstahlgewebe, schwarzem Klavierlack oder gebürstetem Alu, Sitzbezüge in speziellen Ledersorten und Farben sowie ein silberner Dach himmel. Die Auslieferung des Audi RS 5 beginnt im Frühjahr 2010. Für den RS 5 verlangt Audi nach eigenen Angaben einen Grundpreis von "etwa 77.700 Euro".

In short:
max rev 8250 U/min
V8 similar to V10 in R8
Ceramik brakes as option
Baseprice of 77700€
First delivery spring 2010
(numbers are the same as in press release)

[Sims]

Actually, there are very few naysayers here. Just a couple. I personally really like it.

Even us RS 6 owners should own up to the fact that we were also hassled about the fact the RS 6 was the first RS without a manual, and we all still loved it. ;)

Ben :addict:

It will grow on people.....

[mccobr]

It seems so.

Look at the bottom center of this brochure scan:

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee239/Dark_and_Divine/RECOM-CGI_AUDI_RS5_30.jpg

Haha, so there is, good spot! Thanks

There's a photo of an RS5 with a sunroof.

Haha, so there is, good spot! Thanks

[AudiRS4ever]

Well, my only problem is that World Car Fans also said we aren't getting it in the states. Such a shame...........

[Randy M]

A very knowledgeable guy at my dealer told me last week that the RS6 is definitely coming to the US. If that beast is coming here then I have no reason to believe world car fans

[RXBG]

if audi prices this right the naysayers will have to leave the room.

that new quattro will be insane- this car is going to handle beautifully- closer to the R8 than the M3. enough said.

[RXBG]

artur- no offense, but how can you say that a car that isn't out yet has been reliable?

back on topic- the RS5 does compete a bit with the GTR- ~pricewise and packaging wise. both in the upper 450-500 hp range, weight about the same, have 2+2 layout, are front engined, have the latest gearboxes, and have trick awd systems- the RS5 unproven so far- at least publicly- but for the first time a viable competitor- in concept at least- to the GTR's awd system. the GTR will be faster no doubt- for one single reason- torque. but had the RS5 come out with a 4.0T with 450 hp and 430 of torque for example- the internet would be abuzz with wonder. so i actually do think buyers could cross shop to a certain extent.

[Randy M]

but had the RS5 come out with a 4.0T with 450 hp and 430 of torque for example- the internet would be abuzz with wonder.

How awesome that car would have been. It's the one thing the 4.2 doesn't possess much of...torque

[Rock]

I love this car!!!! Please come to the USA. I will be first in line.

[KresoF1]

RS5 limiter is set at 8500rpm.

[Lmg]

RS5 limiter is set at 8500rpm.

As expected.

Thanks!

[artur777]

RXBG,

GTR was updated and became more reliable. I know some 2010 GTRs and I know what I am saying.
On the other side, pure acceleration isnt the main thing in the car. In this case RS5 wins hands down. GTR only for pure drive, RS5 is a complete package and DD

[Sims]

RXBG,

, RS5 is a complete package..

And that's a message that often gets lost when we have too much data (a lot of it meaningless & and of no value to most users). I don't think it's wrong to refer to the RS2 concept, for this is that same and which has moved on without losing any sportiness (to the contrary). It's a great package, and the weight gain is bearable (vis-avis the RS2) for this great GT car.

I suspect most of the people who bought the RS2 have put on even more weight themselves compared to their weight in 1994.:lovl:

[Qisha]

Dear Friends,

you might want to know, that not all "details" have been published, yet. :hihi:

Personally i would highly recommend to see, drive and feel the car in person, no worries... the package is great, you will like it! :0:

On the other hand, enjoy this last high performance NA V8- it will become extinct. Soundwise it is just... :wo: ...intake noise is "new". :jlol:

Qisha

PS: for the "flat bottom Steering Wheel" fans, keep up the faith!

[Sims]

Dear Friends,

the package is great, you will like it! :0:

On the other hand, enjoy this last high performance NA V8- it will become extinct. Soundwise it is just... :wo: ...intake noise is "new". :jlol:

Qisha



I said that a minute before you...:hihi:

The sound - if the RS4 sound was a 7 out of 10 on an absolute scale, where are we with the the RS5?

[Erik]

Double post from the Geneva thread.

Who asked for black? :D

http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr197/Deliz18/Audi_RS5.jpg

[biker14]

Qisha and/or Kresof1,

I know this will change from country to country, but when do you think we will have access to the full list of extras for this car? :incar: Will it be available at Geneva?

[biker14]

Double post from theGeneva thread.

Who asked for black? :D



wow

I did! I'll take one of those please :love2: wrap it up!

[tailpipe]

Qisha,

We're it not for the global recession, high petrol prices, environmental pressure and general doom and gloom, we'd all prefer the instantaneous thrill of naturally aspirated V8s over any turbo. We'll get our turbocharged 4.0 litre V8 soon enough, so you are right to tell us to enjoy the RS5 while we can. It is indeed the last of a dying breed and a zenith of high performance if not automotive art. In so many ways it is a reinterpretation of the original Quattro; I'd certainly like to see a roadtest comparison versus its ancestor as well as against BMW's M3. I suspect that this will become a collector's item.

Bravo, Audi.

[Erik]

Audi RS5 - photoshopped. :love2:

http://www.rs6.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9436&d=1266923032


The official pictures:

Audi official pictures (https://www.audi-mediaservices.com/publish/ms/content/en/dta/oeffentlichkeit/topics/t1_produkte/t20_s__rs_modelle/t25_audi_rs_5.standard.gid-oeffentlichkeit.acq/ctx-formate,fmt-formate,mod-index/index.html)

[Lmg]

Audi RS5 - photoshopped. :love2:

http://www.rs6.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9436&d=1266923032

Looks mean in black.

I like it very much. :heart:

[Sims]

Qisha,

.... I suspect that this will become a collector's item.



But only if they restrict production to 2000 units worldwide... which they will not. This car will otherwise depreciate like any sporting luxury car.
I saw an RS2, a real limited production icon, with about 26k miles, offered for half the price new. So enjoy the RS5, and invest money in some lightweight with a racing pedigree.

[KresoF1]

North American RS5 fans, this is directly from Audi USA press site:

At this time, the RS 5 is not planned for the USA.


Sorry!

[MihokS5]

North American RS5 fans, this is directly from Audi USA press site:

At this time, the RS 5 is not planned for the USA.


Sorry!

This is getting rediculous now. Are we ever going to see RS models in the states again?! Thats 3 in a row we did not get - Kreso, any reasoning why that you can think of?

[AudiRS4ever]

North American RS5 fans, this is directly from Audi USA press site:

At this time, the RS 5 is not planned for the USA.


Sorry!

Kreso,

Thank you for keeping us informed. I guess now I am going to have to be negative, so I apologize in advance. Audi is a stupid company. They like to say that they compete with BMW and Mercedes, but they don't compete with the M brand or AMG in America. Audi has nothing that can compete in the United States with the M3, M5, or X5M.
I am getting sick of trying to update my tired old 03 RS6. It has everything I can put on it to try and keep it somewhat up-to-date, and yet a 535XI is still way nicer. One day BMW is actually going to build an M car I like and then I am going to leave the Audi brand. I have 3 Audi's right now, and all 3 of them are starting to age. I want to replace them, but with what? Sorry again guys, I'm just sick of this mentality that we are too fat, too stupid, too ugly, too arrogant, too.......I don't know what the reason is anymore. Just sick of it. :nana:

[KresoF1]

Low $$$ is the key element IMHO. German price is €77700 with Mwst. Audi can not price is lower then $80K in USA and for that money nobody will buy it.

My advice is for people with money from USA-buy Porsche models(as underpriced as possible in USA) since from next MY prices will gradually go higher...

[KresoF1]

Do you like this?https://www.audi.co.uk/content/audi/about-audi/contact-us/register-for-updates/rs5-coupe/_jcr_content/image-video-module/generic_image_0.img.png

[GEN XER]

I hope some make it to the states.

[Lmg]

Do you like this?https://www.audi.co.uk/content/audi/about-audi/contact-us/register-for-updates/rs5-coupe/_jcr_content/image-video-module/generic_image_0.img.png

Suzuka Grey, isn't it?

looks good, though normally it wouldn't be a colour I would choose, since I prefer darker colours.

[MihokS5]

Do you like this?https://www.audi.co.uk/content/audi/about-audi/contact-us/register-for-updates/rs5-coupe/_jcr_content/image-video-module/generic_image_0.img.png

Kreso, can you do a Sepang Blue one for me please :)

[Sims]

Do you like this?https://www.audi.co.uk/content/audi/about-audi/contact-us/register-for-updates/rs5-coupe/_jcr_content/image-video-module/generic_image_0.img.png

Not really, it looks like a Japanese Car with that colour combo, shape, photo angle IMHO

[Sims]

Low $$$ is the key element IMHO. German price is €77700 with Mwst. Audi can not price is lower then $80K in USA and for that money nobody will buy it.

...

I see the problem. 77,700 Euros at $1.35 to the Euro = $105,000. So the strong Euro is really affecting the big ticket trade.:)

Anyone remember the $ was 0.80 to the Euro, then the car would be $62,000......:lovl:

[Qisha]

Dear Friends,

the RS 5 as well as the TT RS both have good chances to be offered in the USA as well. :)

The RS 5 looks best -as mentioned- in bright colors. Misanored, Sepangblue, Solarorange, Imolayellow, GT3 green either of them look brilliant.

Qisha

[KresoF1]

Qisha,

When will Audi post RS5 on audi.de? It is already on some regional Audi web sites and on both German and USA Audi press sites...

[sbor]

Hi,

Any ideas at all when or if a convertible RS5 will follow or when the coupes will begin to be delivered?

[Rock]

Dear Friends,

the RS 5 as well as the TT RS both have good chances to be offered in the USA as well. :)


Qisha

What makes you think the RS5 has a good chance? Is there anything RS5 lovers from the U.S.A. can do to make it happen?

[MihokS5]

Qisha,
Can you elaborate at all on the KERS style system that this car has?

[Erik]

Kreso, can you do a Sepang Blue one for me please :)

It's from the Audi UK news site, not possible to change color unless you photoshop.

[Lmg]

Hi,

Any ideas at all when or if a convertible RS5 will follow or when the coupes will begin to be delivered?

The RS5 will begin to be delivered in June/July.

Don't know if they'll make an RS5 Cabriolet.

[IulianUM]

From the Audi Uk :
Taking the stunning A5 Coupe as a starting point, and adding a powerful, high revving 4.2 litre V8 and
7 speed S tronic transmission delivers a car with 450PS and a 0-62mph time of just 4.5 seconds.

Just for fun , it doesn´t matter to me , at all . For me it is the driving joy , and if it is even better than my Rs4 ...:love2:

Kerso and Qisha , I was leaning towards Suzukagrey or Silver , but now I am dubious .
Anyway thanks for the info and pics .:thumb:

[QuattroFun]

How sensitive will the the RS5 driving experience off track and off Autobahn be to which critical options you choose? My guesses for now:
- Sports exhaust and Sport Diff: absolute must haves I reckon.
- 20": very good for looks, but only if one is completely unsensitive to ride quality or Audi has indeed taken a quantum leap in terms of comfort from the S-line suspension in the A5/conventional SS in the S5 I suspect. Especially UK press will focus on this one after the surprising praise for the RS4 and predictable bashing of the S5 and A5 S-line.
- Dynamic steering: no, unless Audi has actually made cows fly after the S4 attempt.
- Ceramics: since only front and pricey, probably not although with 380mm should also fit under 19" and ride, durability and agility can only benefit.
- Buckets: for aesthetics and feelgood only, since the weight savings are insignificant to be felt taking total mass into account and now probably pricey optional extra.
- Raised vmax limiter: useless in most places of course, but still kind of fun.

Well, time and the first tests will tell this and much more I am sure.

[Sims]

How sensitive will the the RS5 driving experience off track and off Autobahn be to which critical options you choose? My guesses for now:
- Sports exhaust and Sport Diff: absolute must haves I reckon.
- 20": very good for looks, but only if one is completely unsensitive to ride quality or Audi has indeed taken a quantum leap in terms of comfort from the S-line suspension in the A5/conventional SS in the S5 I suspect. Especially UK press will focus on this one after the surprising praise for the RS4 and predictable bashing of the S5 and A5 S-line.
- Dynamic steering: no, unless Audi has actually made cows fly after the S4 attempt.
- Ceramics: since only front and pricey, probably not although with 380mm should also fit under 19" and ride, durability and agility can only benefit.
- Buckets: for aesthetics and feelgood only, since the weight savings are insignificant to be felt taking total mass into account and now probably pricey optional extra.
- Raised vmax limiter: useless in most places of course, but still kind of fun.

Well, time and the first tests will tell this and much more I am sure.

I suppose the cars that are 10 seconds quicker than the RS4 at the 'Ring will have Ceramics, the right wheels, sports exhaust, sports diff, lightest seats, raised vmax and the price for this jewel will be???? 77,700 + 12,300 approx = 90,000 does that make sense?

[QuattroFun]

I suppose the cars that are 10 seconds quicker than the RS4 at the 'Ring will have Ceramics, the right wheels, sports exhaust, sports diff, lightest seats, raised vmax and the price for this jewel will be???? 77,700 + 12,300 approx = 90,000 does that make sense?

Good point, but in all fairness the fact is that the RS4 in Sport Auto Supertest 6/2006 that did 8.09 also had all these goodies bar sport diff and exhaust (NA) with test price of 78820 euros at the time - and ditto for the M3 that did 8.05 (85180e) and the R8 that did 8.04 (131820e)...Like for like it seems.

[BaXRS4]

RS4 B7 Nordschleife (http://www.fastestlaps.com/track2.html) 7:58 (http://www.fastestlaps.com/laptimes/458be5c49eae1.html)

I digged out the sportauto magazine with the RS4 supertest..the car was running on the same Pirelli P Zero Corsa in 255/35/19. 7:58min > 8:09min the different between a DTM full prof Audi race driver and a car journalist...

7:58 is a never official claimed factory test driven by Frank Stippler a Audi DTM race driver.

[QuattroFun]

RS4 B7 Nordschleife (http://www.fastestlaps.com/track2.html) 7:58 (http://www.fastestlaps.com/laptimes/458be5c49eae1.html)

I digged out the sportauto magazine with the RS4 supertest..the car was running on the same Pirelli P Zero Corsa in 255/35/19. 7:58min > 8:09min the different between a DTM full prof Audi race driver and a car journalist...

7:58 is a never official claimed factory test driven by Frank Stippler a Audi DTM race driver.

True, but driver is the same in SA (HvS) and presumably also for Audi factory that has gone 10s faster in RS5 than RS4 - for comparability and consistency the gap matters, not the level.

[Sims]

Good point, but in all fairness the fact is that the RS4 in Sport Auto Supertest 6/2006 that did 8.09 also had all these goodies bar sport diff and exhaust (NA) with test price of 78820 euros at the time - and ditto for the M3 that did 8.05 (85180e) and the R8 that did 8.04 (131820e)...Like for like it seems.

So with the extra 30ps, sport diff and exhaust & ceramics, 7.59 seems possible with a journalist (HvS or other)

[Sims]

True, but driver is the same in SA (HvS) and presumably also for Audi factory that has gone 10s faster in RS5 than RS4 - for comparability and consistency the gap matters, not the level.

So Frank Stippler could go round in 7:48?

[Benman]

Low $$$ is the key element IMHO. German price is €77700 with Mwst. Audi can not price is lower then $80K in USA and for that money nobody will buy it.



I will wait before posting: "I told you so". :D

Not you Kreso. ;)

Ben :addict:

[Hy Octane]

Dear Friends,

the RS 5 as well as the TT RS both have good chances to be offered in the USA as well. :)

The RS 5 looks best -as mentioned- in bright colors. Misanored, Sepangblue, Solarorange, Imolayellow, GT3 green either of them look brilliant.

Qisha

Qisha. Could you please empty your Private Message box . Its full. Important developments.. need to send you a message..,,, Thanks..

[RXBG]

Ben- i really hope you are wrong- i think the ONLY way audi will bring it to the states is if the audi marketing dept says "yes" to the asking price audi germany will calculate that would make them money.

[RXBG]

Qisha,
Can you elaborate at all on the KERS style system that this car has?

what????

the plot thickens!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

btw- 0-62 in 4.5 means 4.4 or less to 60. R&T will be getting 4.1 or 4.2. maybe the 1/4 mile won't be so bad after all.

[chewym]

Audi is offering to its system that manages the alternator, trying to use it mostly when coasting to save some gas. In the end I wouldn't call it KERS.

And R&T got a time of 4.3 seconds for the RS4, though that was the quickest US time with other magazine times of around 4.5 seconds. The RS4 had good off the line acceleration, it's quarter mile time was the less impressive of the two.

[Erik]

7:58 is a never official claimed factory test driven by Frank Stippler a Audi DTM race driver.

Correct, and the source to that was my interview with Mr. Stippler when I met him at the Nürburgring, and was posted on RS6.com back in 2005.

That time has since then found its way into various lists on the Internet.

You can find the original RS6.com post here! (http://www.rs6.com/showthread.php/7570-Frank-Stippler-quot-7-58-quot-is-no-problem?highlight=Frank+Stippler)

[artur777]

1/4 mile at 12.4 secs and 180 km.h - my expectations

[RS4 SM]

Hi people I am back as I was away....
Great to see that this forum is still buzzin away....

I am very intrested in the RS5 looks great but I am not
to sure about the new Rs stylein to my RS4 and the
price here in london easy £60k......

I think that's alot an once you spec it up a bit it could
go to £65k++.....

Alot of money for 30bhp more which I don't think it
will blow you away should have had at least 470bhp
to realy push the game up...

But hay I am of to Geneva soon an will see it for real
an then make my mind up as I am on the order book
at my dealer....

What does every body think of the S5 Cab coz that to
me looks like a more safe bet...

Great power, great looks in and out an you can have
for £50k with alot of spec and it is a great car to drive...

Yes I know it's no RS4/5 but when you live in london
you realy can't use all that power it's a waste I feel...

0-60 4.6 (RS4) 4.5 (RS5) 5.3 (S5 cab) roof down.....

Remember it's not what you drive but how you drive it...

Anyway let us know what you think.....

[Sims]

Tks for that. The tech at my dealer told me " the problem with the RS4 is because it revs so high, and the breather system (thats supposed to send oily vapor back into the engine) cant cope at the high revs and is actually sending large oil droplets (one of the reasons they burn so much oil) then the EGR sticks to the oil droplets and you get sticky oily carbon on the inlet valve. he suggested putting a race car breather system, with a big catch tank, on the engine, then it wouldnt happen". Is that one of the changes to the RS5?
Does anyone here have any comment on this? KresoF1?

[Ruergard]

It looks great, love the revs and ofcourse the looks. Simply awesome. Might this be the best RS car yet? :incar:

Qisha, I think we need some more info. ;)

[Sims]

It looks great, love the revs and ofcourse the looks. Simply awesome. Might this be the best RS car yet? :incar:



For sure - probably the last NA engine for an RS (best power to weight), big lump, high revving, sports diff, sports exhaust, great brakes & suspension, super seats, nice wheels, sensible economy - Wow. And also it looks nice and has a great Audi interior & reliability. Even M3 fans will love it.:0:

[Lmg]

For sure - probably the last NA engine for an RS (best power to weight), big lump, high revving, sports diff, sports exhaust, great brakes & suspension, super seats, nice wheels, sensible economy - Wow. And also it looks nice and has a great Audi interior & reliability. Even M3 fans will love it.:0:

Yes, it's just a pity that there's a generalized hatred for the RS5 among Audi fans throughout the Internet.

Some complain about the engine being NA (not enough power, not enough torque...) others complain about the car being S-Tronic-only, others complain that it's not fast enough and so on...:nana:

[ChicagoAudi]

Many cannot handle change.

[Lmg]

Many cannot handle change.

So it seems.

[Sims]

Yes, it's just a pity that there's a generalized hatred for the RS5 among Audi fans throughout the Internet.:

And they have all driven the car, right? And the B7 RS4 was rubbish right?



Some complain about the engine being NA (not enough power, not enough torque...) others complain about the car being S-Tronic-only, others complain that it's not fast enough and so on...:nana:
It's fine claret, the way it will move will be addictive power. And no, I have not driven it but have owned the RS2,RS4 B7 and the RS6+ so can imagine where we are going with this. I am also confident because Audi will have put everything into baking this cake to perfection to topple the mighty M3.

S-Tronic? - This is technology, like the latest BMW DCT. The M3 CSL was SMG, wheras the standard M3 was manual also. That SMG did not slow the car 7:50 at the 'Ring. That's fast.

[Sims]

Many cannot handle change.


Change has already occured, now they have to change. This car will seduce.

[Lmg]

And they have all driven the car, right? And the B7 RS4 was rubbish right?

From the way they talk, it seems that they drove the car for months already. :lovl:



I am also confident because Audi will have put everything into baking this cake to perfection to topple the mighty M3.

Yes, me too. And it seems Audi was quite sucessful.

Based in the info that KresoF1 kindly provided us with, the RS5 is at least 6 seconds faster than the E92 M3 in the 'Ring.

[Sims]

Based in the info that KresoF1 kindly provided us with, the RS5 is at least 6 seconds faster than the E92 M3 in the 'Ring.

I am sure they sweated blood to get it below the 8 minute mark. But only time will tell.

[Fehli]

What you think the time from 0 - 200 km/h?

[artur777]

0-200 at 14.5 secs appr.

[RS4 SM]

Hi everyone....

I got a call from my dealer late today how told me that the RS5 will cost £57,480.00 in the uk an that first customer car will be in oct,10.....

An i can confirm that the RS5 has DRC aswell with three different control levels like the new RS6....

An also i have been told that it will have the flat bottom wheel from the RS4....

looks like this is gona be a expensive car guys...

but it will be worth it if its as quick as an R8 and faster around the ring by 10 secs then the RS4 and lets not forget the sound of that V8 changeing down gears with the S-tronic box....

I would be mapin out all the local tunnels......

[Benman]

Ben- i really hope you are wrong-

Personally I think it WILL come over, just not at the price any of us are hoping for. ;)

[Fehli]

0-200 at 14.5 secs appr.



14,5 secs is to fast, or?

[The Pretender]

Suzuke Grey

http://www.fourtitude.com/blog/rs5_suzuka.png

[Ritchy]

An also i have been told that it will have the flat bottom wheel from the RS4....



One problem solved ! thanks.

[biker14]

You know, about the whole manual vs S-tronic debate - when I ordered the E46 M3, the SMG was my biggest doubt in the car, but I was taking over a slot from someone else who had given up, so I was either taking it or facing a 4 or 5 months wait. After the initial adaptacion period, I really started to enjoy the SMG, especially in heavy traffic - it was a relief to have it. And driving fast I never, ever, felt the need to have a manual box, which I think is the best thing you can say about it. The SMG is now maybe a 10 year old technology, so I can imagine things have moved on (for the better) and that this box in the RS5 will be even better! I really think people should give a try before saying stuff like "manual box is the one for the real drivers" and "I will not buy this car if it doesn't have a manual box" kind of statements...
my 2 cents...

[LittleDevil]

@The Pretender: http://www.rs6.com/showthread.php/20455-Breaking-news-The-Audi-RS5-brochure!?p=184727&viewfull=1#post184727 (http://www.rs6.com/showthread.php/20455-Breaking-news-The-Audi-RS5-brochure%21?p=184727&viewfull=1#post184727)

[iconcls]

Many cannot handle change.

The problem is there is not ENOUGH changed.

Vorsprung durch Technik, yeah, right.

[Ritchy]

Comme on.....4 years ago, 4.2 NA 420ch today 4.2 NA 450ch. Something has changed of course.

Let's talk about torque....430 and...430. Crazy.

We can expect 500ch in a 4,6m car around......2017 ? with 430 of torque of course.

The truth ? I really love this car. Of course i'm upset with the power. I would have prefered something more special, a limited edition of a 500HP RS5. Whatever the price. Somebody said i could go for a RS6 in that case....but i prefer the A5 line, and don't want to go for a "big" 4 seats 2T's car. What's funny, is a lot of power in a small car.

Just as youry, of course i will buy this car. Even before having trying it. I just hope the new gear will erase this feeling of lack of power i've got in my RS4, even after remap. All about the rest (new 4WD, etc....) i don't really care, i'm never on a track.

For information, i'll be in Geneva on friday (5th). From 10AM (opening) to 1 PM. Mostly on Audi stand.

[Al Pettee]

...I just hope the new gear will erase this feeling of lack of power i've got in my RS4, even after remap....

You should do what I did to my RS4-MTM's 540HP Lysholm Opcon twin-screw SC conversion with Laminova cylindrical IC, Sachs sintered metal clutch disc/LWFW and MTM exhaust::incar: :rs4addict :love2:

MTM SC engine bay and exhaust:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgCVHSOVHCA

Fly-by:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C8qbmxGF2c

0-100mph/160kph in < 8seconds:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUhX4Exu6N8

[LittleDevil]

Does anyone have link of German price list? :)

Best Regards

[Benman]

The problem is there is not ENOUGH changed.

Vorsprung durch Technik, yeah, right.

It might surprise us when it comes out and the road tests start coming in. Where is "the bright side" mindset. Think positive thoughts. :D

Ben :addict:

[logpak23]

any numbers on weight distribution?

[iconcls]

It might surprise us when it comes out and the road tests start coming in. Where is "the bright side" mindset. Think positive thoughts. :D

Ben :addict:

Thing is, I can tell if a car should be on my radar by specs alone. Bought my last 3 cars (RS 6, '97 993TT and GT-R) with nary one test drive of any of them and I have not been disappointed in the slightest with any of my choices. For me the RS 5 doesn't have the requisite go bits to even make it out of the starting gate.

However, if you're the type that aesthetics, sound, flat bottom steering wheels, blah, blah, blah matter to you, then I say the RS 5 will unequivocally be the most handsome civilian coupé out there and will most certainly satisfy. For me, a car is a tool, what it can do; if it happens to be pleasing to the eye great, but it's not high on my list of priorities.

[The RS6]

And under "what it can do" you only think of "how fast it can go down a straight line"?

[The Pretender]

There is something wrong with the RS5 colours.

According to a post on Fourtitude: The colors are as follow: Misano Red, Sprint Blue, RS Green, Phantom Black, Papaya Orange, Mugello Blue, Meteor Grey, Jet Blue, Avus Silver, Imola Yellow.

But based on this it seems that is not right.
http://data.motor-talk.de/data/galleries/0/3/3024/15256125/rs5-farben-65489.jpg

[Benman]

Thing is, I can tell if a car should be on my radar by specs alone. Bought my last 3 cars (RS 6, '97 993TT and GT-R) with nary one test drive of any of them and I have not been disappointed in the slightest with any of my choices. For me the RS 5 doesn't have the requisite go bits to even make it out of the starting gate.
True, but the GT-R was "480hp" and 4000lbs... considering the specs, this might not be too shabby at all.

Call me a chump for nice Audis. ;) :D

Ben :addict:

[Chuvips]

In RS5 I like:
n/a 4.2 cause it's light revvy and sporty. And because it's a stunning sound of V8.
for sure the looks inside and outside
In RS5 I would like
a manual (maybe that's pointless, but I don't care)
60k euro price
4 doors (that's stupid because it won't be such a beauty than and there won't be second point in "what I like in RS5"

you can say that with such specs I need a B7 RS4 and you'll be right

but the pity for me is that so many great RS cars have been launched since the RS4 B7, but none of them would suit me as well as it.

[OfftheHeZie]

Countach!

I hope this talk of center crown differential and something about plate configuration is not talk about a viscous coupling method. Can anyone elaborate on the center crown-gear differential?

~Mason

[iconcls]

And under "what it can do" you only think of "how fast it can go down a straight line"?

Quite the contrary as I stated in this earlier thread (http://www.rs6.com/showthread.php/20212-RS5-final-version-and-prices?p=181107&viewfull=1#post181107)

[KresoF1]

There is something wrong with the RS5 colours.

According to a post on Fourtitude: The colors are as follow: Misano Red, Sprint Blue, RS Green, Phantom Black, Papaya Orange, Mugello Blue, Meteor Grey, Jet Blue, Avus Silver, Imola Yellow.

But based on this it seems that is not right.
http://data.motor-talk.de/data/galleries/0/3/3024/15256125/rs5-farben-65489.jpg

From left to right:
Ibis White, Daytona Grey Pearleffect, Mugello Blue Pearleffect, Monza Silver Metallic, Misano Red Pearleffect, Phantom Black Pearleffect, Suzuka Grey Metallic, Sepang Blue Pearleffect

[Erik]

Price in the UK is said to be £57,840, and the first RS5s will land in September 2010.

[iconcls]

True, but the GT-R was "480hp" and 4000lbs... considering the specs, this might not be too shabby at all.

Call me a chump for nice Audis. ;) :D

Ben :addict:

but the GT-R has gobs of (probably equally understated) torque too.

I bleed Audi too, I want a new RS, I need a new RS, I should've been in a new RS years ago, but this RS....................