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hooter76
February 8th, 2010, 10:30
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Stuttgart. The engineers at Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG, Stuttgart, have developed a new top-of-the-range sports car for the customer who will only settle for the very best in terms of power, performance and driving dynamics: the 911 Turbo S.The heart of this most exclusive high-performance athlete is of course a six-cylinder boxer boosted by two exhaust gas turbochargers with variable turbine geometry, with an increase in power over the 911 Turbo by 30 to 530 bhp (390 kW). Maximum torque is a most impressive 700 Newton-metres (516 lb-ft). At the same time this new top model comes as standard with all high-tech components available only as options on the “regular” 911 Turbo.

Despite its significant increase in power and dynamic performance, the new 911 Turbo S, at 11.4 litres/100 kilometres (equal to 24.8 mpg imp), does not consume any more fuel than the Porsche 911 Turbo, making it by far the most efficient sports car in its performance class.
The 911 Turbo S comes exclusively with seven-speed Porsche-Doppel-kupplungsgetriebe (PDK) (Porsche’s Double-Clutch Gearbox) conveying drive power to Porsche Traction Management (PTM) all-wheel drive. Driving safety optimised to an even higher standard is ensured by Dynamic Engine Mounts and Porsche Torque Vectoring (PTV) including a mechanical differential lock on the rear axle. In conjunction with Launch Control on the Sport Chrono Package Turbo like-wise featured as standard, 911 Turbo S accelerates from a standstill to 100 km/h in 3.3 seconds and reaches 200 km/h in 10.8 seconds.


Top speed is 315 km/h or 195 mph. Extra-light and fading-resistant Porsche Ceramic Composite Brakes (PCCB) provide the same outstanding performance in terms of stopping power and controlled application of the brakes.


The supreme level of standard equipment including Dynamic Bending Lights, 19-inch wheels in RS Spyder design with central locking, a three-spoke sports steering wheel with gearshift paddles, adaptive sports seats, cruise control, a CD/DVD changer and exclusive twin-tone leather upholstery in Black/Crema or Black/Titanium Blue additionally underlines the outstanding class and calibre of this first Turbo S in five years.


The new Porsche 911 Turbo S will be at the dealership as both a Coupé and Cabriolet as of May 2010. The German market price of the Turbo S Coupé is Euro 173,241 including 19 per cent value-added tax and local equipment in the market (the Euro base price is Euro 145,400). The Cabriolet retails in the German market at Euro 184.546, again including 19 per cent VAT and local equipment/specifications (base price Euro 154,900).
Video and more photos:
http://germancarscene.com/2010/02/08/porsche-unveils-the-911-turbo-s/

KresoF1
February 8th, 2010, 13:27
German MY2011 price list with all order codes for 997.2 Turbo & Turbo S:

http://www.porsche.com/all/media/pdf/pricelist_911_turbo_my11_pd.pdf

RXBG
February 8th, 2010, 14:27
not much faster than regular turbo until about 100 mph. wonder if it will handle any better.

KresoF1
February 8th, 2010, 14:34
not much faster than regular turbo until about 100 mph. wonder if it will handle any better.

Turbo S is about 0.3s faster on Hockenheim and around 3s faster on the Ring.

...and best news of all Turbo S is in Germany cheaper then similary specd R8 V10 manual.

RXBG
February 8th, 2010, 14:36
Turbo S is about 0.3s faster on Hockenheim and around 3s faster on the Ring.

...and best news of all Turbo S is in Germany cheaper then similary specd R8 V10 manual.

that's pretty good. audi won't have an answer to the value thing till the next gen R8 comes out with a different engine- cylinders cost more than induction it seems.

artur777
February 8th, 2010, 15:07
Turbo S is about 0.3s faster on Hockenheim and around 3s faster on the Ring.

...and best news of all Turbo S is in Germany cheaper then similary specd R8 V10 manual.

how could it be any faster on the Ring if it marginally faster than 911 turbo and all other options are similar

KresoF1
February 8th, 2010, 15:16
how could it be any faster on the Ring if it marginally faster than 911 turbo and all other options are similar

Higher power means higher top speed at Doettinger Hoehe. That translates in ideal conditions in about 3s faster lap.

BTW, 0-200km/h 0.5s faster in not marginal, specially on the autobahn...

artur777
February 9th, 2010, 06:01
0.5 secs faster in terms of street performance means 5-10 metres ahead- not that much.....

artur777
February 9th, 2010, 06:03
530 hp for turbo S is too low to make a significant difference
may be the new DFI engine just couldnt handle more power... I have read about this everywhere on the net

KresoF1
February 9th, 2010, 07:20
530 hp for turbo S is too low to make a significant difference
may be the new DFI engine just couldnt handle more power... I have read about this everywhere on the net

Most info about DFI engine limited to 530hp/700Nm is rubbish coming from some tuning companies.
Problem is CO2 emissions... You can get way more power but, in that case goodbye to EU5 emissions...
In current political climate even sportscar needs to be relatively political friendly...

andreadebi
February 9th, 2010, 09:12
Most info about DFI engine limited to 530hp/700Nm is rubbish coming from some tuning companies.
Problem is CO2 emissions... You can get way more power but, in that case goodbye to EU5 emissions...
In current political climate even sportscar needs to be relatively political friendly...

I guess porsche left some "hp space difference" for the 997.2 GT2 ;)

artur777
February 9th, 2010, 12:37
Most info about DFI engine limited to 530hp/700Nm is rubbish coming from some tuning companies.
Problem is CO2 emissions... You can get way more power but, in that case goodbye to EU5 emissions...
In current political climate even sportscar needs to be relatively political friendly...

KresoF1, what is the limit of DFI engine then?

KresoF1
February 9th, 2010, 13:00
KresoF1, what is the limit of DFI engine then?

First, why are you interested in possible power limit of 997.2 Turbo/Turbo S?

You already get pretty good answer about it on other forum...

OK, if you really want to know limit is according to respected Porsche technical guy at level of 700hp-with small hardware modification only...

Just, beware that limit of PDK is at about 800Nm...

audi_ch
February 9th, 2010, 13:45
what was the limit off the 997.1 turbo or gt2 engine

any infos about that...

know about tunnings, to 800ps but with hardware mods...

andreadebi
February 9th, 2010, 14:58
First, why are you interested in possible power limit of 997.2 Turbo/Turbo S?

You already get pretty good answer about it on other forum...

OK, if you really want to know limit is according to respected Porsche technical guy at level of 700hp-with small hardware modification only...

Just, beware that limit of PDK is at about 800Nm...

i read previously that the ZF gearbox 7DT45HLA has power limit 530hp,700nm and 7.800rpm

is there another version that can keep 800nm?

KresoF1
February 9th, 2010, 15:21
i read previously that the ZF gearbox 7DT45HLA has power limit 530hp,700nm and 7.800rpm

is there another version that can keep 800nm?

Same PDK in little bit modified version is in Panamera Turbo. With Sport Chrono Plus Panamera Turbo produces 770Nm... http://www.porsche.com/germany/models/panamera/panamera-turbo/featuresandspecs/

andreadebi
February 9th, 2010, 16:38
Same PDK in little bit modified version is in Panamera Turbo. With Sport Chrono Plus Panamera Turbo produces 770Nm... http://www.porsche.com/germany/models/panamera/panamera-turbo/featuresandspecs/

ah ok,so no new gearbox for over 800nm

artur777
February 9th, 2010, 18:29
First, why are you interested in possible power limit of 997.2 Turbo/Turbo S?

You already get pretty good answer about it on other forum...

OK, if you really want to know limit is according to respected Porsche technical guy at level of 700hp-with small hardware modification only...

Just, beware that limit of PDK is at about 800Nm...

I am interested to compare 997.1 engine block with 997.2 engine block in terms of reliability
you know that there were a lot of bullshit regarding this in the internet
700 hp is pretty smart
800 nm is the limit - appr. it does mean about 600 hp

andreadebi
February 10th, 2010, 13:06
I am interested to compare 997.1 engine block with 997.2 engine block in terms of reliability
you know that there were a lot of bullshit regarding this in the internet
700 hp is pretty smart
800 nm is the limit - appr. it does mean about 600 hp

well, RS-tuning (n°1 tuner for turbo engine) has developed
a 4.3 L high compression VTG Secan intercooled 800hp with 950nm @3.500rpm.They produce power at 1 bar boost only.
The latest Alzen 997tt race car was the test-bed for a lot of these stuff