X5M vs Turbo S vs Jeep SRT8 vs Range Rover sport

[Erik]

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[Benman]

Wow... I'm impressed with the X5M. $50K less than the Porsche and every bit the same in the speed department. And dare I say, better looking as well!

I think they recently had a similar result comparing the new 5 Series GT to the Panamera.

Ben:addict:

[RXBG]

:p being the owner of a 2010 RRS supercharged i protest the lack of off-road evaluation in this test- the rover would have brutalized the others, and probably been needed to pull the others out when they got stuck!

and 100 times out of 100 would buy this car again over ANY of the others.

so there

[Benman]

:p being the owner of a 2010 RRS supercharged i protest the lack of off-road evaluation in this test- the rover would have brutalized the others, and probably been needed to pull the others out when they got stuck!
A good point, and one made by C&D. They admitted the results would have been different.

Ben:addict:

[The RS6]

A similar comparison might bi on TopGear this weekend, including this little chap :)

http://www.topgear.com/uk/assets/cms/6d8cb9d0-960c-4597-9b72-d13a4d701fa4/670x377Image.jpg

http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/tg-14-ep-4-rehearsals?imageNo=2

[gnomik007]

I do like the new RRS, but unfortunately It simply has absolutely little headroom, I'm 190cm and in the lowest seat position my head is touching the roof - not good. I would choose either M cars any minute.

[andreadebi]

A similar comparison might bi on TopGear this weekend, including this little chap :)

http://www.topgear.com/uk/assets/cms/6d8cb9d0-960c-4597-9b72-d13a4d701fa4/670x377Image.jpg

http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/tg-14-ep-4-rehearsals?imageNo=2

great,sounds very interesting!

[AndyBG]

Wow... I'm impressed with the X5M. $50K less than the Porsche and every bit the same in the speed department. And dare I say, better looking as well!

Please Ben :) , have in mind that Cayenne is here for some seven years allmost... I'm very courious to find out how will next Cayenne perform against the concurention...


:p being the owner of a 2010 RRS supercharged i protest the lack of off-road evaluation in this test- the rover would have brutalized the others, and probably been needed to pull the others out when they got stuck!

and 100 times out of 100 would buy this car again over ANY of the others.

so there

I think that you don't have many options but to to brag about RR, you have one after all ... :D

Honestly, I JUST LOVE the looks of that car... It looks perfect!

[Benman]

Please Ben :) , have in mind that Cayenne is here for some seven years allmost... I'm very courious to find out how will next Cayenne perform against the concurention...






True that... but the Cayenne was never the looker from day one. ;)

Ben:addict:

[p3u]

http://www.casttv.com/shows/top-gear/series-14-episode-4/735wio1

Enjoy!

[Erik]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxxxeLf945s

[absent]

Anyone here so impressed by the numbers please remember not to judge any car/truck by these numbers alone.
Please take the X5M for a test drive and after you return to dealer with your kidneys bleeding you will have a bit different view of these vehicles.
All four of these trucks call themselves "SUV" but only one of them is really that(Range Rover),while the rest are just tall station wagons ,never designed to tackle any mud or real snow (10" and more).
X5M in particular,looks like it was designed to impress with the performance on paper,everywhere else it is a torture on regular roads (potholes,rail crossings and all) and not able to go off road anywhere.
The real winner here is the new Range Rover,very capable off road,cosseting on normal roads and still providing performance that just a few years ago was attainable only by supercars.

[andreadebi]

why rrsport wasn't tested in the top gear track?

[The RS6]

It can't do a full lap on a single tank :D :D :D

[AndyBG]

It can't do a full lap on a single tank :D :D :D

:D :D :D

If we are talking about all that SUV needs, VW Touareg R50 is tha best option...

[RXBG]

the top gear test should have included the RR sport. true.

what absent says is also true- off road- only the rover goes- even with Y rated tires. our old sport got out of beach sand right where a jacked up jeep wrangler got bogged down and stuck for 15 minutes last summer lol. here were are rolling out with the a/c going and a baby in the back seat, while the dude next to us is digging his jeep out with a shovel trying to get it out. i probably should have offered to pull him out with a rope. :)

ps- we plan on doing the nor cal land rover challenge course in a couple of years when the babies are old enough to go with. who says the only "performance" that can be fun is track performance!

[absent]

the top gear test should have included the RR sport. true.

what absent says is also true- off road- only the rover goes- even with Y rated tires. our old sport got out of beach sand right where a jacked up jeep wrangler got bogged down and stuck for 15 minutes last summer lol. here were are rolling out with the a/c going and a baby in the back seat, while the dude next to us is digging his jeep out with a shovel trying to get it out. i probably should have offered to pull him out with a rope. :)

ps- we plan on doing the nor cal land rover challenge course in a couple of years when the babies are old enough to go with. who says the only "performance" that can be fun is track performance!

Only in Range Rover you can "have your cake and it it too...":cool2:

[The RS6]

Well, in the end, there is only one... :)

Q7 V12 TDI is Top Gear's SUV of the year!

http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/cars-of-the-year?imageNo=13

[kju]

Anyone here so impressed by the numbers please remember not to judge any car/truck by these numbers alone.
Please take the X5M for a test drive and after you return to dealer with your kidneys bleeding you will have a bit different view of these vehicles.
All four of these trucks call themselves "SUV" but only one of them is really that(Range Rover),while the rest are just tall station wagons ,never designed to tackle any mud or real snow (10" and more).
X5M in particular,looks like it was designed to impress with the performance on paper,everywhere else it is a torture on regular roads (potholes,rail crossings and all) and not able to go off road anywhere.
The real winner here is the new Range Rover,very capable off road,cosseting on normal roads and still providing performance that just a few years ago was attainable only by supercars.


sorry but WHO cares about OFF ROAD ability if you buy a Porsche(!) Cayenne Turbo S or a X5M? This are big safe strong cars perfect for street and designed for street. Not even one of this manufactures say or advertise that their cars are good offroader. They just have advantages against a VW Golf front wheel drive in 5 cm snow street.
If i have to go offroad i will buy a jeep renegade or something whats built do to exactly this.
I just cant read it anymore "oh my god the X5M and turbo s are sooooo bad offroad......and have to towed out from a range rover OMG"<- who cares :vgrumpy:



All four of these trucks call themselves "SUV" but only one of them is really that(Range Rover),while the rest are just tall station wagons ,never designed to tackle any mud or real snow (10" and more).

i think u dont know what utility means ?? it doesnt mean MUD SNOW or OFFROAD. it just means big trunk 4 doors big safe heavy much space. i mean i speak german but looks like even i know better what words in english means than most english speaking persons....

[gnomik007]

sorry but who cares about off road ability if you buy a porsche(!) cayenne turbo s or a x5m? This are big safe strong cars perfect for street and designed for street. Not even one of this manufactures say or advertise that their cars are good offroader. They just have advantages against a vw golf front wheel drive in 5 cm snow street.
If i have to go offroad i will buy a jeep renegade or something whats built do to exactly this.
I just cant read it anymore "oh my god the x5m and turbo s are sooooo bad offroad......and have to towed out from a range rover omg"<- who cares :vgrumpy:



I think u dont know what utility means ?? It doesnt mean mud snow or offroad. It just means big trunk 4 doors big safe heavy much space. I mean i speak german but looks like even i know better what words in english means than most english speaking persons....

+10000000

[RXBG]

kju-

i predict land rover will make something that will redefine what an X6M and cayenne turbo should be capable of. the next RR sport supercharged will weigh over half a ton less and still retain its off road prowess.

if "it just means big trunk 4 doors big safe heavy much space" is your definition of utility then that applies to minivans and large sedan too, no?

[gnomik007]

I'm putting down a deposit for a blue X5 M tomorrow )))))))
should be able to pick it up by the end of the week )))))))
the choice was between cayenne turbo and bmw, but to be honest I was somewhat dissapointed with porsche's interior - not the quality but design - just plain ugly!!!

[AndyBG]

I'm putting down a deposit for a blue X5 M tomorrow )))))))
should be able to pick it up by the end of the week )))))))
the choice was between cayenne turbo and bmw, but to be honest I was somewhat dissapointed with porsche's interior - not the quality but design - just plain ugly!!!

Great car you have chosen! Cayenne turbo is more then ''old'' to be purchased now... Next one will be better, i hope...

One thing that confusing me about X5/X6 M is lack of wider body...
Wheel arches on M are smaller than those on a regular X5/X6 with sportpacket....

[Benman]

kju-

i predict land rover will make something that will redefine what an X6M and cayenne turbo should be capable of. the next RR sport supercharged will weigh over half a ton less and still retain its off road prowess.



That is a BOLD claim. Would be amazing if they accomplish that, but I would not hold my breath!. :cheers:

Ben:addict:

[RXBG]

That is a BOLD claim. Would be amazing if they accomplish that, but I would not hold my breath!. :cheers:

Ben:addict:

consider it done ben. since beginning ownership of an LR i've worked hard to catch up on the "inside line" of the LR world- as i have in the audi world- and my sources are pretty darn good.

consider this. not one body panel on the current RR's is aluminum. imagine the whole car with the jaguar aluminum frame construction- i.e. the new XJ-long wheelbase version weighs 4300 lbs- just 300 lbs more than an S4.


...you get the idea!

[andreadebi]

I guess in 2012-2013 we will see new "green" chassis and cars

[absent]

sorry but WHO cares about OFF ROAD ability if you buy a Porsche(!) Cayenne Turbo S or a X5M? This are big safe strong cars perfect for street and designed for street. Not even one of this manufactures say or advertise that their cars are good offroader. They just have advantages against a VW Golf front wheel drive in 5 cm snow street.
If i have to go offroad i will buy a jeep renegade or something whats built do to exactly this.
I just cant read it anymore "oh my god the X5M and turbo s are sooooo bad offroad......and have to towed out from a range rover OMG"<- who cares :vgrumpy:



i think u dont know what utility means ?? it doesnt mean MUD SNOW or OFFROAD. it just means big trunk 4 doors big safe heavy much space. i mean i speak german but looks like even i know better what words in english means than most english speaking persons....
All these trucks are classified "SUV" by their respective manufacturers so don't get your panties twisted here.
They all pretend to be SUVs with their brick like aerodynamics,if they didn't they would be designed to look like station wagons that in essence they really are.
If they are not supposed to be Suvs ,as you say,why build them to look that way (with all the disadvantages involved)?:eye:

[Benman]

consider this. not one body panel on the current RR's is aluminum. imagine the whole car with the jaguar aluminum frame construction- i.e. the new XJ-long wheelbase version weighs 4300 lbs- just 300 lbs more than an S4.


...you get the idea!

But also keep in mind, that the all aluminum A8 only weighs about 150kgs less than the steel AWD 7 Series... not half a ton, or 450kgs. Also, I am curious if Land Rover wants that aluminum space frame cost factored into their already priciest in class SUV.

Ben:addict:

[gnomik007]

Picked up my new baby last Friday, the car is awesome ))

http://www.sti-club.su/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=21912&full=true&user_id=1651

[artur777]

nice one car
what options have you ordered?

[AndyBG]

Wicked toy... :D

Are those winter or summer tyres on it...? :)))

[kju]

Picked up my new baby last Friday, the car is awesome ))



crazy one....would buy the X6 if i would have the money ^^

[gnomik007]

The car is fully optioned and considering it is REAL winter here in Moscow I got stock winter wheels installed. The choice was obviously between the X5 & the X6, but imho X5 looks better and it has 5 seats with larger trunk, so me thought it was a more practical (if this adj. could be applied here :)) car.