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Mr Balsen
August 24th, 2009, 19:34
http://www.mtm-france.com/news/MTM_TTRS_1.jpg

http://www.mtm-france.com/news/MTM_TTRS_2.jpg

My little finger heard over 500hp for the ultimate stage...

Frederic

The RS6
August 24th, 2009, 20:20
Tuned to over 500Hp that thing could eat a R8 V10, at least in straight-line performance...

Ti-Mike
August 24th, 2009, 20:24
i wonder how they have solved the issues with the FSI for the 500 HP and the bigger Turbo and the bigger intercoolers as their is almost no place and other guys like Sportec etc, have mentioned that the space in the engine compartment is very limited, and to make the engine last, bigger Turbos and coolers need to be fitted, next issue Haldex, and gear box......and after all this i would like to see the price tag on the TT

Mr Balsen
August 24th, 2009, 20:32
Ti-Mike,

We will see...

Frederic

The Pretender
August 24th, 2009, 21:39
Up to 600 hp would not be a problem with this engine, it's state of the Art inside.

Mr Balsen
August 24th, 2009, 21:46
Up to 600 hp would not be a problem with this engine, it's state of the Art inside.

agreed. a little over 600 is also possible...

Frederic

The Pretender
August 24th, 2009, 22:00
agreed. a little over 600 is also possible...

Frederic
Yes, 612 hp with a GT 35-? turbo. ;)

KK265
August 24th, 2009, 22:08
agreed. a little over 600 is also possible...

Frederic

Bi moto 1200???

The Pretender
August 24th, 2009, 22:13
bi moto 1200???

BIMOTO Evo. ;)

The RS6
August 25th, 2009, 12:53
guys like Sportec etc, have mentioned that the space in the engine compartment is very limited, and to make the engine last, bigger Turbos and coolers need to be fitted, next issue Haldex, and gear box......

Well, ECU upgrade is here :)

http://www.worldcarfans.com/109082421262/sportec-announce-400bhp-upgrade-for-audi-tt-rs

Chuangs4
August 25th, 2009, 16:32
Will the horse power be really important to such a road car? How about the reliability and drivability??:vhmmm:

LittleDevil
August 25th, 2009, 17:31
SKN:http://www.skn-tuning.de/

Stufe 1: http://www.skn-tuning.de/product.aspx?productid=98314283&TabID=3331

= 276 kW (375)PS, 515 Nm

Stufe 2: http://www.skn-tuning.de/product.aspx?productid=98314284&TabID=3331

= 288 kW (392)PS, 545 Nm

Best Regards

Erik
August 25th, 2009, 17:42
Will the horse power be really important to such a road car? How about the reliability and drivability??:vhmmm:

Who does not want more power - please raise your hands? :burnout:

"The conversions are covered by a guarantee for the balance of the manufacturer's warranty."

Leadfoot
August 25th, 2009, 19:37
Who does not want more power - please raise your hands? :burnout:

"The conversions are covered by a guarantee for the balance of the manufacturer's warranty."

Great to hear that they will stand over potential warranty claims, but does it say whether this extends to everything thats relating to the engine (gearbox, clutch, etc). And has this warranty include the UK?

P.S.
Yes please to your question. :jlol:

mbolo
August 27th, 2009, 14:58
This is looking really interesting. Testdrove the RS a little while back - and my impression seems to be the same as a lot of magazines.

Beautiful engine - rest of the car a little "meh". With an mtm-upgrade and the cabrio-version I think I've found my winner. Would be the perfect summer-getaway car...

EUROTEK//RS6
August 28th, 2009, 22:09
I wana see a tuner install pair Garret GT turbos on that bad boy!!!

audi_ch
September 6th, 2009, 10:55
Tuned to over 500Hp that thing could eat a R8 V10, at least in straight-line performance...

dont think 500 hp are enouhg to get the v10.

V10 engines are very strong and made for standard 560-570 hp (see gallardo) with ecu you do easily 600 hp on the v10, and it will still be mutch more drifable than a possible 600 hp ttrs. (if that is possible, without complet destroying the whole engine after a few miles du to cooling problems)

Mr Balsen
September 6th, 2009, 12:06
I think it will because turbo engine have much more torque at lower rev...

Frederic

The RS6
September 6th, 2009, 13:37
I think it will because turbo engine have much more torque at lower rev...

Frederic

That what I was thinking about when I said it would be faster...

audi_ch
September 6th, 2009, 15:31
And therefor a high reving engine turns longer...

R8v8 kompressor by mtm has no chance against the r81v0 even if he have more torque and more horsepower. (see acceleration results...)

Highg reving enginse just develops its power better as quicker the speed goes, over turbo engines.

(see m6 over 911 turbo)

i am pretty sure a 500 hp ttrs cant mutch the v10 of the r8, specialy if he is open as the gallardo 560.

Gustav of m5 board said the r8v10 performed similar in standart trim as the rs6 c6 in mtm trim with 730 horsepower (sedan) Video is not available but comparisen aparently done.

And i doubt that the ttrs 500 hp can handle the rsc6 avant with 730 hp.

Just guess so far but we will see the truth soon

Mr Balsen
September 6th, 2009, 15:35
Well the TT-S 380MTM is better than the R8V8, so we will see for the TT-RSR xxx MTM soon

Frederic

crespo
September 6th, 2009, 15:41
Well the TT-S 380MTM is better than the R8V8, so we will see for the TT-RSR xxx MTM soon

Frederic"quicker", not better, thanks :R8:

audi_ch
September 6th, 2009, 15:43
I believe that, but ttrs has round about 17, secs in standard trim to 200 kmh..
R8v10 in standart trim 12 sec up to 200kmh 5 secs sems to be a long way... specially becaus the v10 is developed for easy 560-570 hp in the lambo...

The Pretender
September 6th, 2009, 15:48
with a Abt ECU upgrade you get 600 hp out off the V10.

audi_ch
September 6th, 2009, 16:15
correct with abt, but the standart v10 is set with a factory set up for around 560-570 hp in the lambo and downgradet for around 525 in the audi.

Nice engine..

Qisha
September 7th, 2009, 08:09
Dear Friends,

something to think about... :0:

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/autokauf/top-liste-elastizitaet-die-besten-ueberholer-von-80-auf-120-km-h-1393748.html

Qisha

Erik
September 7th, 2009, 09:40
Qisha, in which gear? Or the optimal?

Qisha
September 7th, 2009, 09:59
Dear Erik,

i would assume in last gear.

Qisha

Erik
September 7th, 2009, 11:26
A bit like the SAAB marketing years ago then ;)

SAAB advertised their Turbo was faster than the Testarossa - in fifth gear! :eye:

itisme
September 7th, 2009, 11:49
A bit like the SAAB marketing years ago then ;)

SAAB advertised their Turbo was faster than the Testarossa - in fifth gear! :eye:

correct...

very useless comparison... a Lambo would use 3. or 4. gear from 80-120... not the 6.

just numbers wich are in real condition useless

audi_ch
September 7th, 2009, 13:50
Agree useless

but r8v10 still very good, if we know that his 6 gear is mutch longer than the ttrs 6 gear....

Qisha
September 7th, 2009, 14:06
Dear Friends,

exactly. This "Test" points out what you might want to expect out of it, nothing more- nothing less. There are too many unknown facts to consider it as serious. Therefore something to think about... :looking:

Qisha

Leadfoot
September 7th, 2009, 15:56
The only thing that this test proves is the flexibility of the engine, not only is it mighty powerful when worked through the gears but it's almost as potent left in 5th or 6th and allowed to use it's great reserves of torque to the full.

Ruergard
September 7th, 2009, 18:59
Even not compared to the others, you can't argue with that it is seriously quick.

Leadfoot
September 8th, 2009, 17:02
Even not compared to the others, you can't argue with that it is seriously quick.

Of course it's F'ing quick, the way it homes in on the 300km/h mark in that test video is proof enough in my book. I would reckon that put up against an RS4 the TT/RS would always hold the upper hand, right to the very limiter.

The Pretender
September 8th, 2009, 17:12
The Abt TT RS is out with 420 hp.

audi_ch
September 8th, 2009, 17:14
at least up to 200kmh rs4 did better so far.

Sporauto test had 17,5 sec for the ttrs
Rs4 did i think 16,9. maybee after 200 kmh its turning but i dont think so

Leadfoot
September 8th, 2009, 21:18
at least up to 200kmh rs4 did better so far.

Sporauto test had 17,5 sec for the ttrs
Rs4 did i think 16,9. maybee after 200 kmh its turning but i dont think so

I'm sure there has been a 16.4s or something for the TT/RS. Anyway, different days will throw up subtle differences.

Given the opportunity to be given the keys of either I would chose the TT, mainly because of the looks and that engine note. :love2:

BaXRS4
September 8th, 2009, 22:50
We tryed RS4 B7 vs TT RS (3000km on clock) from 0-290km/h and from 50-290km/h, TT RS was faster.

EUROTEK//RS6
September 9th, 2009, 23:46
I'm confused, I thought all R&D was done at MTM Germany ???

Leadfoot
September 10th, 2009, 10:55
We tryed RS4 B7 vs TT RS (3000km on clock) from 0-290km/h and from 50-290km/h, TT RS was faster.

Well that is what I expected the outcome to be.

Thanks for proving my point. :0:

Ruergard
September 10th, 2009, 11:54
We tryed RS4 B7 vs TT RS (3000km on clock) from 0-290km/h and from 50-290km/h, TT RS was faster.

Five cylinder power! :heart:

audi_ch
September 10th, 2009, 16:30
due to one comparison with out log files etc a cant make my mind up. so i still goe for the oposite..

i am pretty sure soon with have some filmed races between those to cars rs4 and ttrs
(and rs4 is well driven in)

BaXRS4
September 10th, 2009, 16:47
RS4 belongs to me, and TT-RS to my cousin, RS4 have Miltek on it. Some pro driver sayes that I am good driver, so believe me, driver isnt problem, TT-RS is just faster( little, but inuf to win).

Regards BaX


p.s.
We will make some videos next time.

audi_ch
September 11th, 2009, 08:26
cool looking forward, did you messure your rs4 on a dino, is he delevering the whole 420 hp (ewg messurement). We had many under rated and on comparing them with others rs4 big different in standart trim. Exhaust may give him some extra 10 hp ...

so every rs4 is a bit an unknown what power he delivers (rs4b7)

youry
September 11th, 2009, 09:31
in nomal engine conditions (so not cold or medium but at normal oil temperature), we have measured RS4 V8 with as little as 360hp (at the crank) and the best was a little under 410hp, no way one does 420hp....

or you need to cool the air inlets which can have you gain 10-20hp but that is not refelcting reality.

all the RS4s including the one &t 360hp had done sigificant mileage (in fact that one had close to 40000 miles)

I seriously hope the RS5 engine will have this overating issue solved bu working on a much better air inlet design to avoid having it always too hot...

audi_ch
September 11th, 2009, 11:56
418 horse power are proved, a user from here can confirm that. the v8 engine was even mounted on an engine test bench and therefor really acuret messurment, with his mods, he was i think around 430-440 hp..

youry
September 12th, 2009, 09:58
of course on an engine bench it will... it has not the air restrictions it has in the engine bay in the car.... who cares what the engine has in conditions that are not the same then in inthe car....

audi_ch
September 12th, 2009, 10:37
also on a maha with good ventilation in this case..
He had similar results. So yes there are rs4 b7 engines witch devlopes the power..

youry
September 12th, 2009, 17:51
well maybe there are some rare RS4 V8 that have that, but this is rare... really an exception. mine was measured on 4 different dynos including the one from MTM which I believe has a pretty exceptionnal ventilation. and did not have more than 402 HP and that with complete exhaust system...

The Pretender
September 26th, 2009, 15:21
http://www.tt-forum.co.uk/forum/download/file.php?id=3963

LittleDevil
October 27th, 2009, 21:58
402HP
http://www.mtm-online.de/en/Audi/TTRS-8J/2-5TFSI-250-kW-340hp-quattro?FZID=TTRS8J250Q&KIT=mttrs340402qx

408HP
http://www.mtm-online.de/en/Audi/TTRS-8J/2-5TFSI-250-kW-340hp-quattro?FZID=TTRS8J250Q&KIT=mttrs340408qx

428HP
http://www.mtm-online.de/en/Audi/TTRS-8J/2-5TFSI-250-kW-340hp-quattro?FZID=TTRS8J250Q&KIT=mttrs340424qx

The Pretender
October 27th, 2009, 22:15
http://www.audiblog.nl/wp-content/mtm-ttrs-424pk-1.jpg
http://www.audiblog.nl/wp-content/mtm-ttrs-424pk-2.jpg
http://www.audiblog.nl/wp-content/mtm-ttrs-424pk-3.jpg
http://www.audiblog.nl/wp-content/mtm-ttrs-424pk-4.jpg

The Pretender
November 8th, 2009, 13:15
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/6233/dsc0004h.jpg
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/7628/dsc0007lw.jpg
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6030/dsc0012oy.jpg
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/7042/dsc0014ur.jpg
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/5781/dsc0034oz.jpg

The Pretender
November 8th, 2009, 13:16
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/787/dsc0043y.jpg
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/5104/dsc0062s.jpg
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/7455/dsc0114m.jpg
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/3216/dsc0148h.jpg

The Pretender
November 8th, 2009, 13:17
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/9166/dsc0151lz.jpg
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1043/dsc0154a.jpg
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/6322/dsc0166j.jpg
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1144/dsc0167t.jpg

Mr Balsen
November 8th, 2009, 16:27
Car arrived in Paris on friday. It is quite amazing. What a sound !!!!

More pictures and video very soon. Stay tuned !

Frederic

The Pretender
November 8th, 2009, 16:34
Car arrived in Paris on friday. It is quite amazing. What a sound !!!!

More pictures and video very soon. Stay tuned !

Frederic
By plane. ?
Looking forward to the video, still 428 hp. ?

Mr Balsen
November 8th, 2009, 17:25
by truck actually.

Officially, the car has 424hp / 560Nm

The Pretender
November 8th, 2009, 20:01
by truck actually.

Officially, the car has 424hp / 560Nm
Yes my mistake, 408 and 424 hp, not 428 hp.

Mr Balsen
November 8th, 2009, 20:14
Kein Problem

The Pretender
November 8th, 2009, 20:46
In this video (http://www.flickr.com/photos/digipulp/4085557507/?likes_hd=1) it's very quiet IMHO.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2753/4085518419_b89e896e96_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2519/4085520957_ba0abd6814_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3264/4085520327_cd8df55a8f_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3057/4085519109_117644f22e_b.jpg

Mr Balsen
November 16th, 2009, 21:23
http://www.mtm-france.com/reportages/2009/TTRS_MTM_Paris/TTRS_MTM_Paris_06.jpg

http://www.mtm-france.com/reportages/2009/TTRS_MTM_Paris/TTRS_MTM_Paris_09.jpg

http://www.mtm-france.com/reportages/2009/TTRS_MTM_Paris/TTRS_MTM_Paris_04.jpg

http://www.mtm-france.com/reportages/2009/TTRS_MTM_Paris/TTRS_MTM_Paris_01.jpg

my favorite:

http://www.mtm-france.com/reportages/2009/TTRS_MTM_Paris/TTRS_MTM_Paris_05.jpg

more here:

http://www.mtm-france.com/reportages/2009/TTRS_MTM_Paris/index.php

Ruergard
November 17th, 2009, 07:18
Great pics!

Looks soooo good, thanks for sharing.. :thumb:

The Pretender
December 27th, 2009, 13:56
http://www.mtm-france.com/news/MTM_TTRS_1.jpg

http://www.mtm-france.com/news/MTM_TTRS_2.jpg

My little finger heard over 500hp for the ultimate stage...

Frederic

Any progress on the big turbo version.