New RS5 test mule pics (ams)

[roadrunner]

Front grill & bumper looks final
http://images.marken.auto-motor-und-sport.de/media/mdb/257842/Erlk-nig-Audi-RS5.jpg?r_900x600

New wheel design
http://images.marken.auto-motor-und-sport.de/media/mdb/257843/Erlk-nig-Audi-RS5.jpg?r_900x600
Big front brake disks
http://images.marken.auto-motor-und-sport.de/media/mdb/257844/Erlk-nig-Audi-RS5.jpg?r_900x600
http://images.marken.auto-motor-und-sport.de/media/mdb/257845/Erlk-nig-Audi-RS5.jpg?r_900x600

[HKS786]

Nothing new really seen here. Car looks great but I dont like the wheels. Looks so much better with the RS4 wheels and RS6 wheels. I'm getting bored waiting for this car. The M3 is the one for me right now because it looks so damn good and had performance to match. This RS5 better be something good to justify the delay.

[youry]

still very dissaponted with the rear fnders. they look identical... they might be 1-2 cm larger ,but it does not appear so. while in the front its obvious and very nice.

looks like it will not be squared look fenders like RS6, which is very good news !

[AndyBG]

It has Audi badge on the grill... So, its official. :D

[roadrunner]

...
looks like it will not be squared look fenders like RS6, which is very good news !


Wouldn't be sure about that

[Mr Balsen]

Wouldn't be sure about that

Agreed with you !!!

Frederic

[LittleDevil]

Some more with RS4 wheels:

http://img.worldcarfans.com/2009/8/large/7588476.jpg

http://img.worldcarfans.com/2009/8/large/7531387.jpg

http://img.worldcarfans.com/2009/8/large/1433680.jpg

http://img.worldcarfans.com/2009/8/large/8160796.jpg

http://img.worldcarfans.com/2009/8/large/593496.jpg

http://img.worldcarfans.com/2009/8/large/6248811.jpg

http://img.worldcarfans.com/2009/8/large/55326.jpg

Best Regards

[youry]

any chance this makes it for Frankfurt ? i find it too short if they are still making testing ..... looks like this will be for 2010 presentation no ?

[Qisha]

Dear Friends,



looks like it will not be squared look fenders like RS6, which is very good news !

Remember? :0:
http://www.audisport-iberica.com/foro/uploads/post-5866-1179984582.jpg


any chance this makes it for Frankfurt ?

No.

Qisha

[roadrunner]

Thanks LittleDevil :thumb:

The one in your pics looks even more final (besides the camo), as it does not have any rollcage and has some "light" coloured leather seats

Here you can see well the retracted spoiler in the trunk
http://img.worldcarfans.com/2009/8/large/8160796.jpg

[Eckoman]

Looks like the camo is hiding massive flared wheel arches - wohoo!

[JavierNuvolari]

Dear Friends,



Remember? :0:
http://www.audisport-iberica.com/foro/uploads/post-5866-1179984582.jpg



No.

Qisha

Ha! I was going to point out the same thing, beat me to it.

Saludos

[S6V10Avant]

Will probably look good, but turbo, supercharged or NA engine? Still crossing fingers for a forced induction engine..

[The Pretender]

Will probably look good, but turbo, supercharged or NA engine? Still crossing fingers for a forced induction engine..
It looks like there are intercoolers behind the lower side vents in this picture.

http://images.marken.auto-motor-und-sport.de/media/mdb/257842/Erlk-nig-Audi-RS5.jpg

[The RS6]

I'm 99% sure it will be a NA V8, but those huge air intakes still give me hope...

[crespo]

Still a good bit of camo going on, specifically with the flares and the rear valence/diffuser. Front looks pretty damn final. Intercoolers don't mean much (may be for oil/pump...)

[QuattroFun]

It will look hot I am sure and I fully expect it to be hot ability-wise too - bring it on!

[Leadfoot]

Still a good bit of camo going on, specifically with the flares and the rear valence/diffuser. Front looks pretty damn final. Intercoolers don't mean much (may be for oil/pump...)

Does anyone recall the same argument regarding the RS6 and it's engine choices.

option 1 : high revving N/A v10 from the Gallardo (most of the press)
option 2 : bi-turbo v10 (a few here)

Even when very similar photos were shown of the intercoolers either side there were still some who said it may be just oil coolers. I'm not suggesting anything, only highlighting the similarities. :brag:

And before anyone asks, my lips are sealed. :looking:

[artur777]

Leadfoot, it were you who convinced us that it would be NA V8...
and now you look not very convinced in this. How should we understand your comment?

[Eckoman]

There is only one way to perceive that comment - TT is the way to go.

[The Pretender]

And before anyone asks, my lips are sealed. :looking:
There are no new RS cars without turbo engine's. ;)

[RXBG]

the engine chosen will say volumes about the future of the R8, A/S6/7, and A/S8.

[The Pretender]

the engine chosen will say volumes about the future of the R8, A/S6/7, and A/S8.
In that case there will be a 4.0TFSI V8 Supercharged engine under the bonnet. ;)

[Leadfoot]

Leadfoot, it were you who convinced us that it would be NA V8...
and now you look not very convinced in this. How should we understand your comment?

I'm only messing with you, of course it's N/A. ;)

Oh, sorry that smile looked like I was messing with you again. :hihi:

[RXBG]

quandary- NA V8 = more expensive for audi. because that engine just wont do for much longer given its thirst. and it would have to go in both RS5 and V8. as such they'd need the expected SC/TT V8 in the A6-8 and Q7 separately.

if they do put in diff versions of a TT/SC V8 in the RS5, A6-8 and Q7 they'd be able to simplify things across the line up as MB is doing. the only question is. can they put it in the R8? should they put it in the R8? if they do it will be too close to the V10 IMO (450-480 hp easy)- unless the V10 gets a power boost. and even then- you could mod a SC/TT V8 to kill a NA V10 for sure. and you could count me in on that one.

[artur777]

I'm only messing with you, of course it's N/A. ;)

Oh, sorry that smile looked like I was messing with you again. :hihi:

Leadfoot, give us a hint if you know smth:-)

[S6V10Avant]

If Audi decides to go the NA route, then they must provide an engine more or less as efficient as the all new Ferrari 458 Italia engine (if they want to keep their "vorsprung.." slogan). The Ferrari engine has surprisingly high power and torque coupled to an impressive power band for a NA engine.
A 450 hp engine, marginally tuned from the current 4.2 420 hp would be a serious dissapointment, at least from my point of view. Let's hope for the SC 4.0, and a launch in the not too distant future..

[Eckoman]

Leadfoot, give us a hint if you know smth:-)

He gave plenty.

[artur777]

Audi has dramatically changed its plans from NA to SC4.0?
That would be great, and I will again then wait for this car and look for a buy

[Leadfoot]

Who said anything about a different choice of engine, I only highlighted the similarities between the debate over the RS6 engine and the acknowledgement over intercoolers either side of the front spoiler. When you lighten the front-on picture of the RS5 test mule you appear to see what looks like intercoolers.

The same debate happened when the RS6 appeared to show the same and in that case it did indeed have twin turbos. Everyone is perfectly able to make their own minds up without me telling them anything.

Though it does make you wonder. :looking:

[RXBG]

i think audi could very well make a last minute change.... i hope it shows up in frankfurt.

something big had better show in frankfurt.

[The Pretender]

i think audi could very well make a last minute change.... i hope it shows up in frankfurt.

something big had better show in frankfurt.
It will not.
Frankfurt will see the R8 V10 Spyder and S5 Sportback.

[Rutkowsky]

Christ, the speculations continue!! lol

We've got the same problem going on over at BMW M boards in regards to the future M5 & M6. (OT - as a matter of fact, there is a V10 tt being tested in mules so the V8 tt from X M series might not make it to the F1x future BMW M series - good!!)

[RXBG]

Christ, the speculations continue!! lol

We've got the same problem going on over at BMW M boards in regards to the future M5 & M6. (OT - as a matter of fact, there is a V10 tt being tested in mules so the V8 tt from X M series might not make it to the F1x future BMW M series - good!!)

no new M5 or M6 yet. not until the the lines are redesigned no? new M5/6 need to be out first.

[Leadfoot]

Has anyone given a thought to the possibility that what we are seeing now with matt black A5 is in fact the 'S5 Quattro-Lightweight'. :vhmmm:

[Toto89]

Hmm, things are getting more interesting. Look what i found in Ingolstadt last week:

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_eWwUPsk6ut4/SpZo5YLzRLI/AAAAAAAAATQ/V_4cIPu6VPg/s800/DSC_3908.JPG
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_eWwUPsk6ut4/SpZo6q_Sy3I/AAAAAAAAATU/wZ1huFV6o6c/s800/DSC_3909.JPG
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_eWwUPsk6ut4/SpZo7Wuk2PI/AAAAAAAAATY/DzJGKVt6PXQ/s800/DSC_3911.JPG

Maybe it's a regular S5 with TTRS front bumper, but maybe not...

You can find these photos in higher resolution here(hopefully at least...) : Link (http://picasaweb.google.hu/agocs.tom/Ingolstadt?authkey=Gv1sRgCPiKoMW9lrHVfQ#)

[LittleDevil]

Nice. What about rear?

Best Regards

[Toto89]

From rear it looked like a regular S5. I thought that the interesting thing is the cooling system under the bumper, i hope somebody from here can recognize if it is only S5 or something else?

[Leadfoot]

Well you photos are adding more evidence to the intercoolers theory that the RS5 isn't N/A but equipped with either turbos or supercharger.

Here's early shots of the RS6 lighten to show detail lost.
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/8496/rs6intercoolers.jpg

Now here's the RS5 on the track again with photo lighten to show detail lost.
http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/6127/rs5intercoolers.jpg

[LittleDevil]

From rear it looked like a regular S5. I thought that the interesting thing is the cooling system under the bumper, i hope somebody from here can recognize if it is only S5 or something else?

It looks something ealse. What about brakes standard S5?

Mybe it is S5 with V6T engine the same as on cabrio.

Best Regards

[Toto89]

Thats too bad i forgot to take a look at the brakes:doh:Otherwise i also think it will use forced induction, which is a great thing! A don't see any logical way, why Audi would use N/A again. Now we are in the new turbo-era.

[artur777]

Looks like RS5 TT or SC mule..
May we hope for RS5 with firced induction?
If yes - I would go for it
If no - I would go for another car....

[S6V10Avant]

+1, forced induction is the way forward..

[The Pretender]

I say that are intercoolers on both sides.

[RXBG]

something is up. maybe updated S5 3.0T engine mule- 360 hp or so. NA would only need the large front grille radiator.

[The Pretender]

Nice. What about rear?

Best Regards
Same style as the TT RS.

[Toto89]

Well, this one looked like a regular S5 from rear.

[Leadfoot]

I'm sure that they are intercoolers but the question that needs to be asked if whether the matt black A5 is an RS5 or the S5 Quattro-Lightweight?

The latter I am sure will run the R5 engine from the TT/RS, but if Audi have fooled everyone into thinking that the RS5 will be a N/A V8 and when in fact they have actually fitted something else with the need for intercoolers. ;)

The plot thickens.

[Lmg]

Hello everyone! New member here.

I'm an Audi fan for quite some time and i have a particular interest in the RS5, and i will take advantage of my introduction post to bring more RS5 spyshots, this time in the Nurburgring:

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee239/Dark_and_Divine/19.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee239/Dark_and_Divine/20.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee239/Dark_and_Divine/21.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee239/Dark_and_Divine/22.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee239/Dark_and_Divine/23.jpg

[RXBG]

those are 20" rims. that is a charged engine. and i call BS on an RS5, AND a sport quattro variant. too redundant imo.

[The Pretender]

A lot of mules out there, with different licence plates.

[artur777]

People, where is the truth?
Logic is saying me that it should be TT or SC engine. But Audi says that it is NA...
I am fooled.

[The RS6]

I see square fenders hidden under there...

[Lmg]

Regarding the coolers in the mule, the RS4 had something similar:

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee239/Dark_and_Divine/001.jpg

And there are other cars equipped with N/A engines wich also have them.

Couldn't these just be two additional watercoolers or something?

I know that they're pratically similar to the RS6's side intercoolers, but you never know.

[Qisha]

Deja vu... :applause:

http://www.rs6.com/forum/showpost.php?p=139553&postcount=59

[Lmg]

Deja vu... :applause:

http://www.rs6.com/forum/showpost.php?p=139553&postcount=59

Indeed, Qisha.

To tell the truth, my post was based in that hint you kindly provided us with.:D

[Leadfoot]

Regarding the coolers in the mule, the RS4 had something similar:

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee239/Dark_and_Divine/001.jpg

And there are other cars equipped with N/A engines wich also have them.

Couldn't these just be two additional watercoolers or something?

I know that they're pratically similar to the RS6's side intercoolers, but you never know.

Well you see that is the problem with speculation, we all see what we want to see and disregard the rest.

I know what I see but I prefer to keep that to myself. ;)

[LittleDevil]

Some more pics:

http://spots.autogespot.com/files/27_08_2009/c214748364827082009211854_1.jpg

http://spots.autogespot.com/files/27_08_2009/c214748364827082009211854_2.jpg

http://spots.autogespot.com/files/27_08_2009/c214748364827082009211854_3.jpg

http://spots.autogespot.com/files/27_08_2009/c214748364827082009211854_4.jpg

http://spots.autogespot.com/files/27_08_2009/c214748364827082009211854_5.jpg

[iconcls]

Deja vu... :applause:

http://www.rs6.com/forum/showpost.php?p=139553&postcount=59


Then we have a nice juicy flop on our hands, way to go Audi!

[roadrunner]

Then we have a nice juicy flop on our hands, way to go Audi!

Funny, that was the same opinion BEFORE the RS4 B7 was introduced.

It ended being the best RS Audi made to date

[RXBG]

Then we have a nice juicy flop on our hands, way to go Audi!


if audi managed to get 460 hp and 360 of torque and offered it with DSG while keeping the fuel consumption the same would that be acceptable? to me, the main problem with that engine is torque. i would be happy with numbers like that. the Italia has a slightly bigger engine and makes a huge amount of torque.

[Marlo]

Judging by the excitement level of Leadfoot I would say the engine is turbocharged, plus magazine publications were calling this engine out in 2007. I doubt Audi would go N/A, this car needs to usher in a new era of RS vehicles.

[S6V10Avant]

Unless Audi can come up with the same performance per litre as the new Ferrari in a NA engine they do not live up to their own slogan in my mind. 420-450 hp is disappointing, not to mention the torque and fuel consumption. Forced induction is the only way, I believe they have come to the same conclusion, therebye delaying the launch somewhat.

[The RS6]

Maybe it will be a HDZ 4.2FSI...









+ a turbo :incar:

[Lmg]

It all depends what route Audi wants to follow with the RS5.

If they want to achieve the best handling possible, an high revving n/a engine is the way to go, since it will be lighter than a supercharged or turbocharged V8 engine, therefore contributing for a better weight distribution.

On the other hand, wouldn't a biturbo or supercharged V8 engine produce a lot more than 500 Nm of torque?

If that would be the case, there's the possibility the current version of the longitudinal S-tronic wouldn't be able to handle all that torque, since its limit is 550 Nm, I think.

While i agree that the 458 Italia's engine turned the tables concerning n/a engines, an HDZ n/a engine with 450 ps and 460 nm of torque is nothing to be ashamed about.

After all, it would have more or less 107 ps and 109 Nm per liter, wich is more than the RS5's more direct competitors can achieve with similar n/a v8 engines.

[LittleDevil]

Here is one document from 1.5.2008 and you can see all models listed (A5 sportback, R8 V10, S4, A4 allroad) and it is pretty accurate....

http://www.shrani.si/f/1A/2e/2wmBB3dT/audi.xls

Here writes, that RS5 will be 4.2 FSI 331kW (450HP) and it writes S-tronic7 only, no manual!

I'm 99% sure that is correct info...!

BTW: It looks like that 4.0 TFSI 290kW (394HP) is going to be in S7.

[Leadfoot]

It all depends what route Audi wants to follow with the RS5.

If they want to achieve the best handling possible, an high revving n/a engine is the way to go, since it will be lighter than a supercharged or turbocharged V8 engine, therefore contributing for a better weight distribution.

On the other hand, wouldn't a biturbo or supercharged V8 engine produce a lot more than 500 Nm of torque?

If that would be the case, there's the possibility the current version of the longitudinal S-tronic wouldn't be able to handle all that torque, since its limit is 550 Nm, I think.

While i agree that the 458 Italia's engine turned the tables concerning n/a engines, an HDZ n/a engine with 450 ps and 460 nm of torque is nothing to be ashamed about.

After all, it would have more or less 107 ps and 109 Nm per liter, wich is more than the RS5's more direct competitors can achieve with similar n/a v8 engines.

550Nm = 400ft/lbs (approx)

That figure is perfectly acceptable from either a turbo or supercharger unit as long as the torque range is decent. I am not saying that the RS5 will use either of these options but it would be perfectly acceptable if it did.

You are right that the HDZ N/A engine with 450ps & 460Nm would also be great and in the RS5 it would be a better car than the last RS4 but I don't think it's the right engine for the moment. The next M3 (yeah I know it's years away yet) will by all reports be a turbo charged and I bet it will offer more torque, economy and less Co2 levels than the HDZ engine.

And that's something that Audi can't let happen.

[artur777]

It all depends what route Audi wants to follow with the RS5.

If they want to achieve the best handling possible, an high revving n/a engine is the way to go, since it will be lighter than a supercharged or turbocharged V8 engine, therefore contributing for a better weight distribution.

On the other hand, wouldn't a biturbo or supercharged V8 engine produce a lot more than 500 Nm of torque?

If that would be the case, there's the possibility the current version of the longitudinal S-tronic wouldn't be able to handle all that torque, since its limit is 550 Nm, I think.

While i agree that the 458 Italia's engine turned the tables concerning n/a engines, an HDZ n/a engine with 450 ps and 460 nm of torque is nothing to be ashamed about.

After all, it would have more or less 107 ps and 109 Nm per liter, wich is more than the RS5's more direct competitors can achieve with similar n/a v8 engines.

Please don't protect obsolete decisions.
NA V8 in RS5 will be a disaster - nobody will buy it.

The only way for success for this model is Forced induction.
Next M5 in 2011 - will be with forced induction and it's says a lot

[Marlo]

The RS5 will be charged probably turbo but second as likely super, let's just hope pricing starts under 70K

[Lmg]

You are right that the HDZ N/A engine with 450ps & 460Nm would also be great and in the RS5 it would be a better car than the last RS4 but I don't think it's the right engine for the moment.

I see your point about the engine. A FI engine would provide more power, more torque with overall less fuel consumption and less emissions than a N/A engine.

But, besides the engine, one of the key elements in this kind of car is it's handling. An FI engine would add some weight to the front, compromising the car's handling.

That's why, in my opinion, the HDZ N/A engine is the best choice to ensure a more refined handling.

But, again, it all depends of Audi's priorities and expectations towards the RS5.


The next M3 (yeah I know it's years away yet) will by all reports be a turbo charged and I bet it will offer more torque, economy and less Co2 levels than the HDZ engine.

And that's something that Audi can't let happen.

Audi will probably have an answer ready to the new M3, but i predict that it won't be the RS5, since it will probably be out of production by then.

Maybe that answer will be a RS4 with a 4.0 TFSI engine...


NA V8 in RS5 will be a disaster - nobody will buy it.

I would!:jlol:

But seriously now, i disagree with the fact that an HDZ N/A engine would be a bad choice.

Like Leadfoot said, it might not be the most popular choice nowadays, but if its lower weight helps to offer a better handling, then it's a good choice.

[Toto89]

A forced induction engine can be as light as the V8 or even lighter if it is the 3.0 V6. I don't think a V8 bi-turbo is necessary at all. I don't know if it is possible or not, but adding a turbo to the current V6 kompressor-motor doesn't sounds very bad either.

[The Pretender]

Adding a turbo to it is very difficult because the supercharger and intake manifold is one unit.

[Lmg]

A forced induction engine can be as light as the V8 or even lighter if it is the 3.0 V6.

Indeed, the 3.0 TFSI is about 6 kg lighter than the V8 (189 kg vs 195 kg).

But the TFSI is heavier than the 3.2 FSI, the same way that a 4.0 TFSI engine, even being supercharged instead of turbocharged, would be heavier than the 4.2 FSI.

[The Pretender]

Indeed, the 3.0 TFSI is about 6 kg lighter than the V8 (189 kg vs 195 kg).

But the TFSI is heavier than the 3.2 FSI, the same way that a 4.0 TFSI engine, even being supercharged instead of turbocharged, would be heavier than the 4.2 FSI.

Yes and therefore is a V8 turbo or supercharged not the best choise engine wise, let alone a V10.
Preformance wise the 3.0TFSI would be the best engine.
The Audi S5 3.0TFSI V6 SC is a better S5 then the V8 one.

[artur777]

The weight of an enfine is an issue
But better to place V6 with Forced induction then - look at the 911 Turbo and GTR - they are very-very fast cars

[Lmg]

The weight of an enfine is an issue
But better to place V6 with Forced induction then - look at the 911 Turbo and GTR - they are very-very fast cars

Yes, but prefereably a supercharged V6. taking in consideration the weight of the 3.0 TFSI, a turbocharged V6 would be very close in weight to the V8.


Yes and therefore is a V8 turbo or supercharged not the best choise engine wise, let alone a V10.
Preformance wise the 3.0TFSI would be the best engine.

Specially if it's the version with 400 hp in that Q5 concept.

On the other hand, maybe this new version of the HDZ engine will be a bit lighter. We'll see.

[The Pretender]

On the other hand, maybe this new version of the HDZ engine will be a bit lighter. We'll see.
I highly doubt that.
The story was that the new 2.5TFSI inline 5 engine would only weigh a little bit more then the 4-pot 2.0TFSI.
In the end the TT RS weigh more the the TT 3.2 quattro with the old ponderous VR6 lumb under the bonnet.

[Leadfoot]

Jarod,

Remember how you and I discussed what we had both been told by sources that Audi's new buzz word was 'downsizing'. We seen the fruits of this with the dropping of the v8 in the S4 to a smaller/lighter v6SC and the result was a revelation in terms of handling and to a lesser extent performance though it does have a better balance of performance.

Personally I think, given the timely introduction of the (406hp) 3.0TFSI in the Q5 it would sound logical to expect such an engine in the RS5. For a start the S4 with very little work is capable of matching the RS4's output and eclipsing it's torque figures so obviously the engine is more than capable of producing the estimated 450hp that the RS5 may well have. I would reckon that the HDZ would perfectly suit the RS5 in both handling and performance but wouldn't be the best choice, the total disaster would be to give the RS5 anything heavier than the 4.2FSI, so in my opinion the 4.0TFSI in either supercharged or turbo form would both be heavier and wouldn't work (i.e. a backward step in terms of handling).

I know I have always been told that it's a HDZ 4.2FSI under the bonnet but my heart says it's something different, something smaller, lighter yet even more potent. :thumb:

[The Pretender]

Jarod,

Remember how you and I discussed what we had both been told by sources that Audi's new buzz word was 'downsizing'. We seen the fruits of this with the dropping of the v8 in the S4 to a smaller/lighter v6SC and the result was a revelation in terms of handling and to a lesser extent performance though it does have a better balance of performance.

Personally I think, given the timely introduction of the (406hp) 3.0TFSI in the Q5 it would sound logical to expect such an engine in the RS5. For a start the S4 with very little work is capable of matching the RS4's output and eclipsing it's torque figures so obviously the engine is more than capable of producing the estimated 450hp that the RS5 may well have. I would reckon that the HDZ would perfectly suit the RS5 in both handling and performance but wouldn't be the best choice, the total disaster would be to give the RS5 anything heavier than the 4.2FSI, so in my opinion the 4.0TFSI in either supercharged or turbo form would both be heavier and wouldn't work (i.e. a backward step in terms of handling).

I know I have always been told that it's a HDZ 4.2FSI under the bonnet but my heart says it's something different, something smaller, lighter yet even more potent. :thumb:

Yes and this car is the key to the answer of that.

http://www.audiblog.nl/wp-content/rs5-sobrescoches.jpg

btw, MTM get 430 hp out of the 3.0TFSI with Cantronic.

[S6V10Avant]

I believe the 3.0 TFSI is easily "tunable" to 450-470 hp and 550 Nm, perfect for a RS5 with S-Tronic..

[RXBG]

mebbe we'll see it in LA in Nov. i dont think the RS5 will show in IAA.

[The Pretender]

mebbe we'll see it in LA in Nov. i dont think the RS5 will show in IAA.
Geneva 2010.

[youry]

I think like "The pretender" too...

[artur777]

Geneva 2010 means TFSI engine.
Enough tijme to correct the mistake.

[RXBG]

Geneva 2010 means TFSI engine.
Enough tijme to correct the mistake.

:hihi:

agreed fellas.

audi needs to skip the GG V8. dump the 3.0T with 420 hp in there lighten the kit up a bit and call it a day.

then eliminate the V8 R8, what is the point anyway?

[andreadebi]

is it the real one?

http://forums.fourtitude.com/zerothread?id=4543954

http://picasaweb.google.hu/agocs.tom/Ingolstadt?authkey=Gv1sRgCPiKoMW9lrHVfQ#

[Toto89]

These are my pictures posted a few pages before:applause:But yes, it can be the real one.

[The RS6]

These are my pictures posted a few pages before:applause:But yes, it can be the real one.

If I were you I'd camp right next to it just to hear when the owner comes what kind of engine is under the hood :D

[andreadebi]

These are my pictures posted a few pages before:applause:But yes, it can be the real one.

sorry I missed your post....

[The Pretender]

No wide arches.