Carbon deposits in our engines

[KK265]

I found it very interesting :
http://www.rs246.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=75737&postdays=0&postorder=asc

[Winterrunner]

I found it very interesting :
http://www.rs246.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=75737&postdays=0&postorder=asc


I too found this interesting, but after reading through most of the post, there was no real conclusion or solution to this obvious problem.

[KK265]

I too found this interesting, but after reading through most of the post, there was no real conclusion or solution to this obvious problem.
Perhaps alltogether can press Audi for giving a solution.This is the one of the roles of the forum.Can anybody more experienced as Qisha or Pretender give us an opinion?
Is Audi aware of the problem?

[SR71]

We're on the case here in the UK.

But the kudos for bringing the matter to our attention belongs to RI_RS4.

He has been building a database of results from RS4's since 07.

Check VW Vortex Forums for the experience of the 2.0L TFSI owners' experience. They're ahead of us on the experience curve.

This FSI technology requires some special oils which I don't believe OEM manufacturers are necessarily aware of...

[Winterrunner]

We're on the case here in the UK.

But the kudos for bringing the matter to our attention belongs to RI_RS4.

He has been building a database of results from RS4's since 07.

Check VW Vortex Forums for the experience of the 2.0L TFSI owners' experience. They're ahead of us on the experience curve.

This FSI technology requires some special oils which I don't believe OEM manufacturers are necessarily aware of...


Hence my worries in another post about motor oil. I bet you could reduce this gunky buildup by using 93+ gas and using a quality motor oil such as Pentosin or Motul....

[KK265]

We're on the case here in the UK.

But the kudos for bringing the matter to our attention belongs to RI_RS4.

He has been building a database of results from RS4's since 07.

Check VW Vortex Forums for the experience of the 2.0L TFSI owners' experience. They're ahead of us on the experience curve.

This FSI technology requires some special oils which I don't believe OEM manufacturers are necessarily aware of...
I live in Greece.I can not analyze my oil but I am worried.Also I would like to contact AntoRS4 who writes to Rs246 forum because of the work made to his manifold.

[SR71]

Here in the UK most owners use 97-99RON gas.

It appears even VW504 spec oils are not up to the job of preventing fuel dilution in the 4.2 FSI although data is sparse on Euro spec cars.

The fuel dilution effect may be mitigated by being able to run in stratified mode (I understand US cars do not), but the issue of gummed up manifolds/inlets has only recently come to the attention of owners, mostly as a result of attempts to improve flow, and thus performance of the highly strung V8.

US owner RI_RS4 has done significant research into the matter in the US and there is a specific oil blended by Renewable Lubricants for the application:

http://www.renewablelube.com/pdf/Bio-Synthetic%20HD%20SHP%20SAE%205W40%20Motor%20Oil.pd f

You have the unenviable choice of using a OEM oil which does not do the job but will presumably ensure your warranty, or a special blend oil which does the job but is not approved...

:vgrumpy:

Check the BITOG forums for more info:

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1325647&fpart=1

[KK265]

What about 507 00 spec oil?Here in Greece all dealers use 507 00 and we use 100 ron petrol.

[Winterrunner]

Here in the UK most owners use 97-99RON gas.

It appears even VW504 spec oils are not up to the job of preventing fuel dilution in the 4.2 FSI although data is sparse on Euro spec cars.

The fuel dilution effect may be mitigated by being able to run in stratified mode (I understand US cars do not), but the issue of gummed up manifolds/inlets has only recently come to the attention of owners, mostly as a result of attempts to improve flow, and thus performance of the highly strung V8.

US owner RI_RS4 has done significant research into the matter in the US and there is a specific oil blended by Renewable Lubricants for the application:

http://www.renewablelube.com/pdf/Bio-Synthetic%20HD%20SHP%20SAE%205W40%20Motor%20Oil.pd f

You have the unenviable choice of using a OEM oil which does not do the job but will presumably ensure your warranty, or a special blend oil which does the job but is not approved...

:vgrumpy:

Check the BITOG forums for more info:

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1325647&fpart=1



HOw would I get in touch with RI_RS4? If my assumtion is right he lives in the same state as me. I would really like to talk to him about some solutions etc... Thanks.

[PetrolDave]

HOw would I get in touch with RI_RS4? If my assumtion is right he lives in the same state as me. I would really like to talk to him about some solutions etc... Thanks.
He says he's in New England, so I think you're right about location.

I suggest you create an account on www.rs246.com and go to the B7 RS4 forum where you'll see the thread of fuel additives (spelt wrong though!), and you'll be able to send him a PM.

[V8weight]

This may sound stupid, but what about modifying the pcv system to vent into a catch can rather than the intake runners? you'd think that would reduce the amount of oil and hydrocarbons making it into the intake.

[V8weight]

Never mind, I was just informed that the Rs4 already has an elaborate catch can system from the factory.

[KK265]

Never mind, I was just informed that the Rs4 already has an elaborate catch can system from the factory.

See the pictures

http://www.rs246.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=76226&sid=b6af8f22f05fe504676a88ea949a480e

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a140/pippyrips/DSCN3439.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a140/pippyrips/DSCN3441.jpg

[Teutonic_Tamer]

We're on the case here in the UK.

But the kudos for bringing the matter to our attention belongs to RI_RS4.

He has been building a database of results from RS4's since 07.

Check VW Vortex Forums for the experience of the 2.0L TFSI owners' experience. They're ahead of us on the experience curve.

This FSI technology requires some special oils which I don't believe OEM manufacturers are necessarily aware of...

Erm . . . OEM manufacturers are CLEARLY aware of 'special oils' for FSI engines - which is exactly what the VW 504.00 oil standard is for. Sadly, in North America, you don't seem to be inclined to use 504.00 rated oils, and prefer to use the far inferior 502.00 standard.

[Teutonic_Tamer]

What about 507 00 spec oil?Here in Greece all dealers use 507 00 and we use 100 ron petrol.

507.00 is the specification for DIESEL engines!

[KK265]

507.00 is the specification for DIESEL engines!

It is ok because it says 504 00/507 00
http://www.mapodo.de/product_info.php/cPath/161_167/products_id/392

[GEN XER]

I know the answer. Quantumblue Motor oils and ACES IV from BND Automotive. Put it in and say goodbye to Carbon. I will forward this thread to Brian he is the owner of BND Automotive and I will get an answer to this problem. BND Auto ships worldwide so everyone will have access to his solution.

http://www.bndautomotive.com/page/page/901818.htm

Simply put if the oil you used did not cook off at temps below 600 degress then there would be little/ no vapors going through the PCV to gum up the valves and intake plenum. Then if you used a Fuel catalyst that dissolved carbon on contact and did not leave a carbon deposit after it burned and left a synthetic film on the topside of the motor your problems would be solved. This is the difference in BND Automotive products and the rest of the stuff on the market.

[MrBucket]

Never mind, I was just informed that the Rs4 already has an elaborate catch can system from the factory.
A friend of mine added a secondary one to his RS4 maybe a month ago along with a fresh cleaning of his valves. He will report on how well it works in a little bit.

[Teutonic_Tamer]

It is ok because it says 504 00/507 00

You missed the point - 507.00 is a diesel only specification. 504.00 is the relevent specification for petrol engines. So, unless you own an Audi RS with a diesel engine, the correct oil specification to quote is 504.00. So whilst the 'one size fits all' Audi service and warranty handbook might state 504.00/507.00 oil - the RS4 specific owners handbook will not state 507.00.

The reason Castrol Edge 5w30 has BOTH specs on the bottle is simply because the oil is designed for both petrol and diesel engines.

[s42ski]

Guys - try the BND automotive products - they have been a big hit with the RS6 community on this site, Brian ( owner of the company) can explain in gory detail if you like what is causing the contamination and why his products will not further the problem. I use his oil and my PCV system is almost dry now. Prior it had the "normal" oily sludge in it. That means I have no volatile oil compounds going through the system. That is probably what is depositing onto the valves. Since you have direct injection, fuel system cleaners are not going to do much.

Also for those living in states with Craptane 91 octane fuel the fuel additive gives a nice boost in octane/performance - even on NA cars.

[KK265]

Guys - try the BND automotive products - they have been a big hit with the RS6 community on this site, Brian ( owner of the company) can explain in gory detail if you like what is causing the contamination and why his products will not further the problem. I use his oil and my PCV system is almost dry now. Prior it had the "normal" oily sludge in it. That means I have no volatile oil compounds going through the system. That is probably what is depositing onto the valves. Since you have direct injection, fuel system cleaners are not going to do much.

Also for those living in states with Craptane 91 octane fuel the fuel additive gives a nice boost in octane/performance - even on NA cars.
Is it so difficult to Castrol to make an oil copy paste as this you reccomend?(BND oil..)Or they do not care about the problem?

[GEN XER]

Here is what is happening:

The oils that they are using, even the 507.00 spec'd oils still have a vapor point that is too low for the amount of heat that these engines are generating. Remember that a mineral oil has upto 35% aromatic (Solvent) in it that will change states of matter (oily vapor) creating a condensing film on the different components causing it to stick and cook on to the surfaces of the engine. This is like burning bacon in a frying pan.

Going to the synthetic oils on the market, you have to also be aware that the % of reactives in the oil are still around 12 to 15%. This is much lower than the typical mineral oils, but still not able to address the vapor and gumming situation that these engines are experiencing. What is necessary is not just a diesel oil with more zinc and phosphorous, but an oil that has virtually no reactivity within the range that the operation of the engine will obtain.

This is where we create the custom blended scenario that BND Automotive LLC does on a regular basis. We understand that these engines will produce very high temperatures and want to split out the heavier portions of the oil and deposit them on the components. Our oils are clean on the 316 Stainless Steel panel test at 600 deg F. When we make our oils, they are only 1.5% reactive compared to the other off the shelf oils. So putting together a custom blend for them would not be a problem. We make oils that go into very expensive automobiles for many high end customers.

1967 Ferrari GT 330 Spyder
1970 Maserati Ghibli 4.7 V8
1972 Maserati Ghibli 4.9 V8
1970 Chevelle LS5 454
Twin Turbo Ligenfelter Corvette
1968 Shelby GT500 KR 428 SCJ
2003 Audi RS6
2001 VR6 2.8 L HO

Obviously just a few cars of note, but worthy none the less.

The other part of the answer to the issue is realizing the propensity of the components to receive or allow the gum to form in the first place. It is important to note that if we can introduce a material to the surface that will have a get clean, and keep clean scenario, the gum will NOT be able to form as the detergency will keep it from doing so. Remember too that the ACES IV that you use in your RS6 and VR6 also leaves a synthetic lubricity that has an affinity to the metal surfaces. Doing so will keep anything from sticking on the surface and building up on the valves or other components.

You are correct in the assumption that running a custom blended QuantumBlue for each application and companioning the oil with the ACES IV will accomplish what your RS6, VW, and Audi brothers and sisters are trying to accomplish. It simply takes an understanding of physics and chemistry mixed with tribology to attain the desired effect they seek.http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/images/smilies/bigthumb.gif

Regards,
Brian
BND Automotive LLChttp://www.chargerforums.com/forums/images/smilies/driving.gif
440-821-9040

[GEN XER]

Is it so difficult to Castrol to make an oil copy paste as this you reccomend?(BND oil..)Or they do not care about the problem?

Castrol, Mobile, Pennzoil, Redline, Royal Purple, and all the rest of the brands are only interested in one thing. That is profit margin not your engine. Can they do what BND does? Yes. Will they, No. Why you may ask? Its simple most people don't care about what is happening inside their motors so the big companies just put out a product for the masses not the enthusiast like most of use.

[GEN XER]

Here are pics of a 1985 Dodge with over 100,000 miles using BND Auto products.

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q22/GENXER1971/BND%20AUTO/1985DodgeDaytonaTurboZ001.jpg

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[KK265]

Castrol, Mobile, Pennzoil, Redline, Royal Purple, and all the rest of the brands are only interested in one thing. That is profit margin not your engine. Can they do what BND does? Yes. Will they, No. Why you may ask? Its simple most people don't care about what is happening inside their motors so the big companies just put out a product for the masses not the enthusiast like most of use.
How much is the cost of a liter of this oil?Is it available in Europe?What happens if there is an engine problem?Because there are cars as mine still in warranty and as long I use 504/00 oil I have not warranty problems.Also oil companies perhaps work for profit.Ok.But Quattro GmbH,M division,ferrari,Porsche,Pagani etc would be interested for such good oil.Why they do not recommend between others these oils?Do this oil has specification label on?Is there a photo of an tfsi,fsi etc engine after some kms to see what happens inside after BND oil use?It would be interesting!

[GEN XER]

How much is the cost of a liter of this oil?Is it available in Europe?What happens if there is an engine problem?Because there are cars as mine still in warranty and as long I use 504/00 oil I have not warranty problems.Also oil companies perhaps work for profit.Ok.But Quattro GmbH,M division,ferrari,Porsche,Pagani etc would be interested for such good oil.Why they do not recommend between others these oils?Do this oil has specification label on?Is there a photo of an tfsi,fsi etc engine after some kms to see what happens inside after BND oil use?It would be interesting!

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q22/GENXER1971/IMG00010-20091214-1722.jpg
The oil is sold in US Gallons only. They are $13/qt so $52 per gallon plus shipping. BND Auto is more than just oil though. The best thing to do is call/ email Brian and speak with him directly about all the products they offer. I have passed you questions on to BND I will post your answers here.

[AUDI5000CSTQ]

whats the capacity of our RS's for oil. I didn't receive an owners manual with my car.
I will be getting full oil change and gal of aces iv after the DVN May calls pay off(ask Dave).

[GEN XER]

whats the capacity of our RS's for oil. I didn't receive an owners manual with my car.
I will be getting full oil change and gal of aces iv after the DVN May calls pay off(ask Dave).

The RS6 takes 2 gals. DVN is an awesome stock. Is it still as predictable as ever? Are you Buying or Selling the calls?

[AUDI5000CSTQ]

Thanks for the info.
Buying calls for now.
Yes DVN channels well and predictablly.

[GEN XER]

How much is the cost of a liter of this oil?Is it available in Europe?What happens if there is an engine problem?Because there are cars as mine still in warranty and as long I use 504/00 oil I have not warranty problems.Also oil companies perhaps work for profit.Ok.But Quattro GmbH,M division,ferrari,Porsche,Pagani etc would be interested for such good oil.Why they do not recommend between others these oils?Do this oil has specification label on?Is there a photo of an tfsi,fsi etc engine after some kms to see what happens inside after BND oil use?It would be interesting!

Answers are below KK265
Originally Posted by GEN XER http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2026969#post2026969)
Brian next Question. This one is from overseas.

How much is the cost of a liter of this oil?

33.82 oz per liter. 55.80 per gallon (3.785 L) So regular price for the European Blend is $14.74 us dollars (11 euros) per L

Is it available in Europe?

Yes it is, but it must be shipped from the United States to you directly via FedEx International


What happens if there is an engine problem?

There won't be any engine problems that can be traced to QuantumBlue. If there is failure, it would be a correllation, NOT a causation by QuantumBlue Custom Blend for your RS-6. We make a 7.5w38 QB RS6 spec.


Because there are cars as mine still in warranty and as long I use 504/00 oil I have not warranty problems.

That is something that is going to be up to you to decide. We will make the technology so that you will not have to worry about the warranty because there will be no problems with it. It would be like worrying about pigs flying out of their pens. It simply isn't an issue here.



Also oil companies perhaps work for profit.Ok.But Quattro GmbH,M division,ferrari,Porsche,Pagani etc would be interested for such good oil.

Yes they would. We manufacture and custom blend for all of them (end users of these fine machines) including Ducati and Motoguzzi as well.

Why they do not recommend between others these oils?

Frankly, we are a small company that manufacturers for end users and racing companies. It is pretty apparent that most don't know we even exist. I have talked to many OEM engineers, and they like our concepts and our technology but generally, their hands are tied as to what the manufacturer will recommend. The end user is the one that really is concerned, not the OEM etc.

Do this oil has specification label on?

Yes, it is API Certified Energy Conserving I and SM/CD and CI-4/CD Also Ilsac GF-4


Is there a photo of an tfsi,fsi etc engine after some kms to see what happens inside after BND oil use?

At present, we do not have any pictures with the TFSI and FSI, but we have submitted the 2.2L Non-intercooled Turbocharged TBI with Bosch injectors running 166,000 km with our QuantumBlue Custom Blends and using the ACES IV as submitted. The experience will be the same, just don't have any pictures to submit here.

It would be interesting!

As more and more people make the switch to our technology, the reputation and success will follow....even in the EU.

Regards,
Brian
BND Automotive LLC
440-821-9040
www.bndautomotive.com (http://www.bndautomotive.com/)

[DHall1]

My .02c

BND products deliver as advertised. Not cheap by any means but we drive factory hot rods not Kia Rio's. John....yes, my thumbs up on the BND oil and Aces IV.

I will never run any of my vehicles without the Aces IV gas mixture. I even got a gallon of the Aces Diesel mixture for the motorhome.

Oh this damn DVN is killing us dumping cash on our laps. Willie, we have the Apr65 CALLS for 2.35(John), 2.80(me) and 2.65-2.90(Jim). The option closed today at 4.00. You punch the calc for 20 options. Cash cow.

My question all along on these RS4 engines. Will the BND products solve this problem? Guys, one of you must try it. The oils and fuel mixture works wonders on our RS6s.



whats the capacity of our RS's for oil. I didn't receive an owners manual with my car.
I will be getting full oil change and gal of aces iv after the DVN May calls pay off(ask Dave).

[GEN XER]

My .02c

BND products deliver as advertised. Not cheap by any means but we drive factory hot rods not Kia Rio's. John....yes, my thumbs up on the BND oil and Aces IV.

I will never run any of my vehicles without the Aces IV gas mixture. I even got a gallon of the Aces Diesel mixture for the motorhome.

Oh this damn DVN is killing us dumping cash on our laps. Willie, we have the Apr65 CALLS for 2.35(John), 2.80(me) and 2.65-2.90(Jim). The option closed today at 4.00. You punch the calc for 20 options. Cash cow.

My question all along on these RS4 engines. Will the BND products solve this problem? Guys, one of you must try it. The oils and fuel mixture works wonders on our RS6s.

OMG $2200-$3300 That is if everyone cashed out today. I know you did.

What does that motorhome take 200gals? Man that's 34ozs or a Qt of ACES IV per fill up. LOL!! Well luckily you don't drive it that much so it is protecting the fuel while it sits. The fuel left in my bike during the winter months (NOV-APR here in VA) does not go bad because it is treated with ACES IV. I just fired it up this past weekend and it did not sputter, misfire or anything. ACES IV is something you have to experience to believe.

[DHall1]

Willie,

Nope, let it ride. We are in this one for the big pay day.

The diesel Aces is 1oz per 15gal. 125gal tank.




OMG $2200-$3300 That is if everyone cashed out today. I know you did.

What does that motorhome take 200gals? Man that's 34ozs or a Qt of ACES IV per fill up. LOL!! Well luckily you don't drive it that much so it is protecting the fuel while it sits. The fuel left in my bike during the winter months (NOV-APR here in VA) does not go bad because it is treated with ACES IV. I just fired it up this past weekend and it did not sputter, misfire or anything. ACES IV is something you have to experience to believe.

[GEN XER]

Willie,

Nope, let it ride. We are in this one for the big pay day.

The diesel Aces is 1oz per 15gal. 125gal tank.


That's not bad at all. About 8.5ozs per full tank.

[KK265]

Answers are below KK265
Originally Posted by GEN XER http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2026969#post2026969)
Brian next Question. This one is from overseas.

How much is the cost of a liter of this oil?

33.82 oz per liter. 55.80 per gallon (3.785 L) So regular price for the European Blend is $14.74 us dollars (11 euros) per L

Is it available in Europe?

Yes it is, but it must be shipped from the United States to you directly via FedEx International


What happens if there is an engine problem?

There won't be any engine problems that can be traced to QuantumBlue. If there is failure, it would be a correllation, NOT a causation by QuantumBlue Custom Blend for your RS-6. We make a 7.5w38 QB RS6 spec.


Because there are cars as mine still in warranty and as long I use 504/00 oil I have not warranty problems.

That is something that is going to be up to you to decide. We will make the technology so that you will not have to worry about the warranty because there will be no problems with it. It would be like worrying about pigs flying out of their pens. It simply isn't an issue here.



Also oil companies perhaps work for profit.Ok.But Quattro GmbH,M division,ferrari,Porsche,Pagani etc would be interested for such good oil.

Yes they would. We manufacture and custom blend for all of them (end users of these fine machines) including Ducati and Motoguzzi as well.

Why they do not recommend between others these oils?

Frankly, we are a small company that manufacturers for end users and racing companies. It is pretty apparent that most don't know we even exist. I have talked to many OEM engineers, and they like our concepts and our technology but generally, their hands are tied as to what the manufacturer will recommend. The end user is the one that really is concerned, not the OEM etc.

Do this oil has specification label on?

Yes, it is API Certified Energy Conserving I and SM/CD and CI-4/CD Also Ilsac GF-4


Is there a photo of an tfsi,fsi etc engine after some kms to see what happens inside after BND oil use?

At present, we do not have any pictures with the TFSI and FSI, but we have submitted the 2.2L Non-intercooled Turbocharged TBI with Bosch injectors running 166,000 km with our QuantumBlue Custom Blends and using the ACES IV as submitted. The experience will be the same, just don't have any pictures to submit here.

It would be interesting!

As more and more people make the switch to our technology, the reputation and success will follow....even in the EU.

Regards,
Brian
BND Automotive LLC
440-821-9040
www.bndautomotive.com (http://www.bndautomotive.com/)
Thank you for the answers!One more question please:If my engine is already contaminated with carbon deposits is it possible to clean with use of BND oil?Or I have first to clean the engine and secondary to use this oil?Thank you in advance.

[GEN XER]

Thank you for the answers!One more question please:If my engine is already contaminated with carbon deposits is it possible to clean with use of BND oil?Or I have first to clean the engine and secondary to use this oil?Thank you in advance.

The carbon deposits will have to be addressed by a special blend of lubricants with detergency that is much higher than normal to deal with what is in your engine presently. It is highly suggested that between the proper ACES formula for the <nobr style="color: darkgreen; font-weight: normal; font-size: 100%;" id="itxt_nobr_5_0">fuelhttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/2_bing.gif</nobr> (http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2028644#) and the correct oil blend, we would be able to have a"get clean" and "keep clean" scenario. I have encountered this many times and have designed materials that will address these issues.

Frankly, it is the failure of the lubricant to withstand the rigors of the engine design that got you here in the first place. Remember, however, that none of our products are mechanic (http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2028644#) in a bottle, but with the proper design, it can be address appropriately.http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/images/smilies/bigthumb.gif

Regards,
Brian
BND Automotive (http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2028644#) LLChttp://www.chargerforums.com/forums/images/smilies/driving.gif
440-821-9040
www.bndautomotive.com (http://www.bndautomotive.com/)

[GEN XER]

Look through this link and see what users think.

http://www.rs6.com/showthread.php?p=188101&page=4#post188101

[GEN XER]

Who Uses ACES?

http://acesworldwide.com/

Video Demo
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[GEN XER]

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