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KresoF1
March 9th, 2009, 17:42
Audi R8
Porsche 997.2 Carrera 4S
http://images.sportauto-online.de/hps/img/hxmedia/mpsspa/2008/10/108c9XoCKa6jIdE_650x.gif
Porsche Cayman S
http://images.sportauto-online.de/hps/img/hxmedia/mpsspa/2009/01/3UtICXApzB5BZs_650x.jpg
Audi TTS
http://images.sportauto-online.de/hps/img/hxmedia/mpsspa/2008/08/0PmtgABIGqmKtM_650x.gif
BMW M3 sedan
Mercedes C63 AMG
http://images.sportauto-online.de/hps/img/hxmedia/mpsspa/2008/04/0JkrvQxNJyKhcg_650x.gif
Erik
March 9th, 2009, 18:43
The Cayman S is finally showing the 911 what it can do :D
Ruergard
March 9th, 2009, 19:41
The Cayman S is bloody quick, very impressive. But still, the R8 shows the way! :R8:
artur777
March 9th, 2009, 21:40
Look!
KresoF1, what are the times of GTR and 997 Turbo?
AndyBG
March 10th, 2009, 00:56
Cayman starting to show some more of its potential... Was BMW M3 sedan or Coupe?
Ruergard
March 10th, 2009, 06:34
Cayman starting to show some more of its potential... Was BMW M3 sedan or Coupe?
If you read the text over the picture you will find out. ;)
Sedan! :thumb:
KresoF1
March 10th, 2009, 07:36
Look!
KresoF1, what are the times of GTR and 997 Turbo?
GT-R was not tested yet in EU or German specs version. Sales of EU specs GT-R will start in late April 2009.
Porsche 997 Turbo was tested in Coupe version(MY07) and it achieved 1:13,7min. Later 997 Turbo Cabrio was tested as MY08 with minor PTM setup changes and it achieved 1:13,1min. It shows up that MY08(or current) Coupe is capable of high 1:12,Xmin time.
Remark-all times are with standard tires-NOT Corsas or Cups.
KresoF1
March 10th, 2009, 07:37
Cayman starting to show some more of its potential... Was BMW M3 sedan or Coupe?
Andy,
M3 Coupe achieved 1:14,3min with Michelin Cup+ tires. BUT, with standard Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 it achieved the same time as Sedan.
artur777
March 10th, 2009, 12:54
GT-R was not tested yet in EU or German specs version. Sales of EU specs GT-R will start in late April 2009.
Porsche 997 Turbo was tested in Coupe version(MY07) and it achieved 1:13,7min. Later 997 Turbo Cabrio was tested as MY08 with minor PTM setup changes and it achieved 1:13,1min. It shows up that MY08(or current) Coupe is capable of high 1:12,Xmin time.
Remark-all times are with standard tires-NOT Corsas or Cups.
997.2 Turbo will be even faster then
1:11-1:12
KresoF1
March 10th, 2009, 13:20
997.2 Turbo will be even faster then
1:11-1:12
I do not think so. Why? 997.1 Carrera S achieved 1:13,7min with 381ps power kit, PCCBs and Sport suspension.
997.2 Carrera S with PDK, SPASM, PCCBs and SC Plus achieved 1:13,4min. Both cars with same Bridgestone RE050 N1 tires.
So, new generation is 0.3s better. You can expect the same thing with 997.2 Turbo with PDK. My guess is 1:12,5min tops...
artur777
March 10th, 2009, 14:14
I do not think so. Why? 997.1 Carrera S achieved 1:13,7min with 381ps power kit, PCCBs and Sport suspension.
997.2 Carrera S with PDK, SPASM, PCCBs and SC Plus achieved 1:13,4min. Both cars with same Bridgestone RE050 N1 tires.
So, new generation is 0.3s better. You can expect the same thing with 997.2 Turbo with PDK. My guess is 1:12,5min tops...
But it were you who told us that 997.2 Turbo would be a very-very fast car! and now only 0.3s of improvement - not that much
KresoF1
March 10th, 2009, 15:16
But it were you who told us that 997.2 Turbo would be a very-very fast car! and now only 0.3s of improvement - not that much
You did not understand me too well...
Example No.1 Hockenheim:
On Hockenheim natural drive dynamics is more important then sheer power. 0.3s-0.5s improvement is actually a big difference on short track like Hockenheim.
Example No.2 Nordschleife:
With very powerfull car like R8 V10 or 997.2 Turbo 0.3s on Hockenheim usually translates into about 8s-10s faster time on The Ring! Just 10km/h more on long Doettinger Hoehe can bring 1s faster time on Nordschleife.
Conclusion-997.2 Turbo should be a lot faster on the Ring then old version...
Ruergard
March 10th, 2009, 16:26
Just wanted to flick in and sa a BIG Thanks to KresoF1 for these great posts.
Always full of facts and small details, keep them comming! :thumb:
andreadebi
March 10th, 2009, 17:41
Just wanted to flick in and sa a BIG Thanks to KresoF1 for these great posts.
Always full of facts and small details, keep them comming! :thumb:
I completely agree! Bravo Kreso!