Next Gen A3.

[The Pretender]

http://static.blogo.it/autoblog/audi-a3-terza-generazione/a3n1.jpg
http://static.blogo.it/autoblog/audi-a3-terza-generazione/a3n2.jpg
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http://static.blogo.it/autoblog/audi-a3-terza-generazione/a3n4.jpg

Jarod.

[rs-6]

I Like the first photoshop!

[andreadebi]

from this Italian article

http://www.autoblog.it/post/18432/laudi-rs3-nascera-dalla-prossima-generazione-della3

I translate:

new serie a3 in 2011
rs3 version (340hp from tt-rs)
new platform also used for 2012 golf 7,seat leon & octavia

confirmed 1.4tfsi 125hp and 1.6 102hp
no more 3.2v6 & 1.9tdi
2.0 tdi 204hp biturbo and 1.6 tdi 105hp

[andreadebi]

I Like the first photoshop!

rs3 pshop :)

[AndyBG]

Next A3 is coming this time next year...

[The Pretender]

http://images.marken.auto-motor-und-sport.de/media/mdb/225339.jpg
http://images.marken.auto-motor-und-sport.de/media/mdb/225341.jpg

Jarod.

[AndyBG]

I like it...! Is Geneve '10 term for premier?

[andreadebi]

2010?

http://www.motorauthority.com/preview-audi-planning-handful-of-2011-a3-variants.html

[The RS6]

This shows how much they know about Audi, lol


For the performance S3 model, expect to see a new turbocharged four-cylinder engine as opposed to the naturally-aspirated V6 found in the current model.

[AndyBG]

...And that's why I think I'm right when I say that next A3 will be launched in 2010...

[andreadebi]

...And that's why I think I'm right when I say that next A3 will be launched in 2010...

but only 2 years since facelift?

[Marlo]

Does anyone know if there will be a sports hatch/coupe variant?

[RS4Ever]

looks pretty good!

[AndyBG]

but only 2 years since facelift?

Don't forget that current A3 is launched in 2003, Geneve '03...

[andreadebi]

Don't forget that current A3 is launched in 2003, Geneve '03...

yes I know...but usually 3 years for the new model after latest facelift...

[AndyBG]

We will see...

[Ruergard]

Love the last two pics, if it comes like that it will be a "seller" for sure..

[itisme]

http://www.worldcarfans.com/9090504.003/new-2012-audi-a3-details-emerge--sedan-variant-planned


Audi may have found an ace up its sleeve in the quest to unseat BMW and Mercedes-Benz in the North American market. According to the UK's Autocar, the German automaker will introduce the new A3 in the US in 2011. In addition to the hatchback, the cabriolet and Sportback, a new sedan model will be sold for the first time.

Autocar's source claimed that Americans are very much into the four-door format and Audi is making plans to accommodate these needs. The A3 sedan would be about as long as a Jetta and be shaped like a coupe. It would have a larger boot space than the Sportback.

The car's design will be slightly edgier than the current look in accordance to Audi design trends. It will still look like an A3 though.

A new generation platform will underpin the car whose suspension system will feature a four-link arrangement at the rear and a McPherson layout at the front.

Engines expected should include a new entry level 1.2-litre TSI with 105bhp (78kW). It is to replace the current 1.6-litre naturally aspirated motor. Other engines will include a 1.4 TSI with 140bhp (104kW) and a 1.8 TSI making 170bhp (127kW).

The S3 quattro will get a power hike of up to 280bhp (209kW). Also expected is the 335bhp (250kW) RS 3 which has been spied doing testing a couple of times before. Audi is also set to take on BMW's 400Nm 123D with a new 2.0-litre TDI that produces 204bhp (152kW).

Coupled with the cars will be the standard 6-speed manual gearbox or a 7-speed DSG.


http://www.autocar.co.uk/contentImages//NonCar/Audi/159945651978356x236.jpg

http://www.autocar.co.uk/contentImages//NonCar/Audi/159945650916356x236.jpg

http://www.autocar.co.uk/contentImages//NonCar/Audi/159945652541356x236.jpg




These are the first rendered images of the new Audi A3, including the new saloon model that has been conceived to help sales in North America.
The new Audi A3 will go on sale in early 2011 and the saloon model will sit alongside the hatchback, sportback and cabriolet body styles.
“We’ve taken a good look at what it will take to better establish the A3 in the US market in the future,” said an Audi insider. “The four-door layout is something North American car buyers continue to seek, especially from a premium brand such as Audi.”
The decision to add a saloon to the A3 line-up makes good sense, because the four-door version of the A4 has grown appreciably in size over the years. Since its launch in 1994 it has put on 320mm in length, 90mm in width and 15mm in height - essentially taking it up a class.
The A3 saloon will be a similar size to the Volkswagen Jetta, at around 4550mm long. Unlike the relatively upright and conservatively detailed Jetta, though, the A3 is expected to have a contemporary, coupé-like profile with a heavily rounded roofline. Boot capacity should be in the region of 500 litres - 130 litres more than today’s A3 Sportback.
Underpinning the new A3 will be a new platform, one generation beyond today’s PQ35 Golf chassis. It will also be used across two size classes and four brands — Audi, Seat, Skoda and Volkswagen — to produce up to three million cars per year.
The suspension will retain a combination of MacPherson struts at the front and a four-link arrangement at the rear, but expect developments such as adaptive damping to find their way into the new model.
The next A3 won’t introduce any radical styling changes, sticking to the formula that has helped it to outsell the BMW 1-series and Mercedes-Benz A-class in the UK.
Audi design boss Wolfgang Egger is said to have chosen a slightly edgier appearance with tauter surfacing for the new car, in keeping with recent styling trends out of Ingolstadt.
“Expect a more distinctive look, but one that has clear links to the existing A3,” was how one Audi source described the car’s new design direction.
Audi will kick off the revised A3 range with a new turbocharged 1.2-litre TFSI engine. Its 105bhp is slightly higher than the output of today’s entry-level normally aspirated petrol 1.6, with 15 per cent better fuel economy.
Further up the range there will be 140bhp 1.4, 170bhp 1.8 and 210bhp 2.0 TFSI units.
The next S3 quattro will stick with a 2.0 turbo, but with a 15bhp increase in power to 280bhp.
At the other end of the scale will be a frugal 1.6 TDI, with a new 105bhp 1.6-litre diesel and automatic stop-start. The most fuel efficient of Audi’s future A3 models will be good for 75mpg and less than 100g/km of CO2.
Other diesel engines will include a 2.0-litre unit with 140bhp and, in a higher state of tune, 170bhp. Audi is also working on a twin-turbocharged version of this engine, claimed to match the output of BMW’s twin-turbo 2.0-litre four, as used in the 123d, with 204bhp.
Regular A3 models will once again be front-wheel drive, while selected models will offer four-wheel drive as an option, but it will be a multi-plate clutch system rather than Audi’s traditional torsen set-up.
In addition to the standard six-speed manual gearbox there will be an optional seven-speed dual-clutch ’box. Today’s dry-sump DQ250 unit will be mated to lower-end engines, while a new DQ400 ’box will be used with more powerful engines.

[Leadfoot]

This new 2.0twin turbo diesel can't come soon enough, I see it making a difference is cars like the Q5, A3, A4 and A5. Another car crying out for it is the TT, they never should have released the TT with the 170hp unit, it was underpowered for a sportscar application, especially up against the 123d.

[AndyBG]

Audi/VAG is SOOOOO late with that engine... I just don't understand them. :doh:

[The Pretender]

http://www.automotorsport.se/uploaded/image/2009/4/17/omslag_9.jpg

[AndyBG]

So many pic's and renders of the next A3 and NOTHING on the next A8...

[andreadebi]

Audi/VAG is SOOOOO late with that engine... I just don't understand them. :doh:

2.7l tdi 190hp still in the range...

[andreadebi]

http://www.automotorsport.se/uploaded/image/2009/4/17/omslag_9.jpg

Can you post bigger please?

[AndyBG]

2.7l tdi 190hp still in the range...

What's the problem to ditch that...? No one is buying it any way, 2.0l twin turbo TDI is MUST for them!

[itisme]

2.7l tdi 190hp still in the range...

but not for A3...

[tailpipe]

Further to this article, this week's edition of Autocar reports that the next gen A3 will feature an RS3 version with the 5-pot engine from the the TT-RS and a new uprated 7-speed DSG box to take on the Ford Focus RS. The styling of the new A3 looks great. This plus a larger boot and more rear passenger space should elevate it to the top of the class.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/contentImages//NonCar/Audi/159945730855356x236.jpg

[AndyBG]

Very promising car next A3...

[The Pretender]

Further to this article, this week's edition of Autocar reports that the next gen A3 will feature an RS3 version with the 5-pot engine from the the TT-RS and a new uprated 7-speed DSG box to take on the Ford Focus RS. The styling of the new A3 looks great. This plus a larger boot and more rear passenger space should elevate it to the top of the class.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/contentImages//NonCar/Audi/159945730855356x236.jpg

Most of what Autocar say are fables.

[Leadfoot]

I would usually say the same but this time I am not so sure. I think this time they are pretty close to being right with their information.

[The Pretender]

I would usually say the same but this time I am not so sure. I think this time they are pretty close to being right with their information.
Not on the DSG front IMHO.

[tailpipe]

Not on the DSG front IMHO.

Pretender, having read the Autocar article, I think Leadfoot is right and you may be mistaken. Independently from Autocar, we know that Audi is definitely developing a new 7-Speed DSG box to handle higher levels of bhp and torque in front wheeel drive configurations. Such a box is also needed to deliver higher levels of economy. VW models such as the GTI and R20T will share the unit. Autocar says the new 7-speed box is called the DQ400 and will supplement the existing DQ250 unit, which i believe is the 7-speed DSG box for cars with under 200 bhp.

The torque and power of Audi's new 5-cylinder unit in the TT-RS are so great that no existing DSG box can handle it, which is why it is only offered as a manual. This box is likely to be offered as an option on TT-RS's from next year. Meanwhile, a 5-cylinder engine in an RS3 with 330 bhp+ and a 7-speed DSG box would be a very entertaining proposition indeed. In fact, it is exactly what the A3 needs to jump ahead of the Focus RS. TT-RS or RS3, we're talking BMW E46 levels of performance. Yes, please.

[Leadfoot]

Unless the new DSG's product name doesn't relate to the actual torque capabilities then everything is OK because if it does then the new 2.5TFSi produces to much torque for it to handle.

A major oversight by Audi there then wouldn't you think. ;)

[itisme]

Unless the new DSG's product name doesn't relate to the actual torque capabilities then everything is OK because if it does then the new 2.5TFSi produces to much torque for it to handle.

A major oversight by Audi there then wouldn't you think. ;)

maybe we see porsche`s PDK in Audi`s? :D

[The Pretender]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_XEEIzU0UA1M/SgOM-W0X83I/AAAAAAAAOHY/tGiCa4ptVh0/s400/001.jpg

[tvrfan]

looks like golf 6. dont like it. is it real or photoshoped? or a rendering?

[The Pretender]

Looks real to me.

[HKS786]

looks like golf 6. dont like it. is it real or photoshoped? or a rendering?

Looks like a Q5 to me. I'm not a fan.

[RXBG]

1-series killer. i'll take one in sedan form vs fiat 500 as my next daily driver.

[353S]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_XEEIzU0UA1M/SgOM-W0X83I/AAAAAAAAOHY/tGiCa4ptVh0/s400/001.jpg

Fake! Audi's rear wipers are always on the right side, not the left.

[The Pretender]

btw, quattro and exhaust are on the wrong side.

http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/audi-a3-2011-001.jpg
http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/audi-a3-2011-002.jpg

[AndyBG]

To much Renault Megane, IMHO...

[The Pretender]

http://storage0.dms.mpinteractiv.ro/media/2/41/1815/4638710/2/audi-a3-pm-01c.jpg
http://storage0.dms.mpinteractiv.ro/media/2/41/1815/4638710/3/audi-a3-pm-02c.jpg

[AndyBG]

Rear looks interesting, front not that much...

[JavierNuvolari]

To much Renault Megane, IMHO...

Agreed, it looks like its squeezing its butt cheeks.

[itisme]

Rear looks interesting, front not that much...

funny... for me it's the other way round...

[The RS6]

funny... for me it's the other way round...

I was about to say the same thing! I think that rear end is awful...

[The Pretender]

I was about to say the same thing! I think that rear end is awful...
Ditto. ;)

[The Pretender]

Fake! Audi's rear wipers are always on the right side, not the left.

ALWAYS. :nono:

http://www.fourtitude.com/gallery/albums//Audi/A3-S3/A3%20(A4)/Exterior/001.jpg
http://www.fourtitude.com/gallery/albums//Audi/A3-S3/A3%20(A4)/Exterior/009.jpg
http://www.fourtitude.com/gallery/albums//Audi/A3-S3/S3%20(A4)/Exterior/034.jpg
http://www.fourtitude.com/gallery/albums//Audi/A6-S6-RS6%20(C4,%20C5,%20C6)/A6%20Avant%20(C4)/EU/001.jpg

But al new Audi's have.

[AndyBG]

Somehow, I have a feeling that tghis kind of rear end is going to be common with future Audis...

[Phage]

So Audi plans on taking over the Korean market like BMW :harass:

[The Pretender]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2648/3925292937_ec1bd15cec_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3450/3926076374_b93c7e8f13_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3256/3925291045_df6ec8a468_o.jpg

[Zyklon5]

Although the render looks very nice .. it seems to me a little to sport for a Sportback.

[The Pretender]

http://vimeo.com/6619818

[The Pretender]

http://img.worldcarfans.com/2009/9/medium/4676666.jpg

MQBA3 2-0012.

"Modularer Querbaukasten" Audi A3 2-2012. ?

[The RS6]

Nah, look at the VW sign in the headlights...

[Marlo]

Timing is right and numbers are too convenient to be a coincidence. I say next gen A3, its due in Europe around Spring/Summer 2010? Also since the MQB platform will be used more extensively by VW it makes sense for VW to run its mules but it's widely known the A3 will share the platform. The A3 should be released first to recoup costs and provide real world data for a year before its further mass produced for Golfs, Jettas, etc., IMO.

[itisme]

Nah, look at the VW sign in the headlights...

sure, the Audi A3 is the first to use the Golf VII platform...

on worldcarfans you can see more pics of the golf... including the bluesport in a Golf VI body

[The Pretender]

http://www.groenlicht.be/wp-content/uploads/Nieuwe_Audi_A3_2011.jpg

[Zyklon5]

Too cool to be true for an A3 Sportback, i mean i saw superb sketches of the A8 D4 and the car was half as sporty and sleek.

This is more of an A3 Fastback or Sportcoupe .. as in the compact segment people dig the practicality of the current Sportback.

[The Pretender]

It's in line with the A5 sportback, the current A3 sportback is more a avant kind of car.

[Zyklon5]

True, it would be more appropriate to rename the current model A3 Avant, and have that lovely sportback as well.

[Chuvips]

I'd rather see a traditional A3 coupe, but it seems to be too close to TT.

[tailpipe]

It's interesting how the Golf /A3 category of cars is growing in size and weight. This new A3 looks very close in size to the old B6 A4. I guess this will make room for the A2 and A1 below it. What worries me about Audi at the moment is its increasingly cookie-cutter approach to car design. Everything now looks like the current A4, including the new A8, A5 Sportback, and now this. I'd like to see a bit more originality within Audi's overall design language and much greater uniqueness across models.

Before Bangle arrived at BMW, the Munich marque had a notable set of design signatures that were translated to each model in different ways. The 'Hofmeister knik' of the rear 3/4 window, the double headlamps, the kidney grille, shoulder crease, and so on. What made new models interesting was different interpretations of these elements. Bangle ignored them if not destroyed them and in doing so allowed Audi to eclipse BMW in so many ways.

I absolutely adored Audi's minimalist Bauhaus design pioneered by the TT. The subsequent models that leveraged the signatures developed by Martin Smith/ Freeman Thomas in the A2, C5 A6, and B6 A4 represented what I believe was the high watermark of Audi design.

I am not a fan of the single frame grille. It is a gaping hole on the face of a dear friend. The Rosemeyer concept, which also had a single frame grille, was much more attractive. I guess what I'm saying is that I don't like Walter Da Silva's work: too many fussy details that detract from the whole. I may be alone in my view, but I think design is an incredibly important part of why people buy cars and I see Audi loosening its hold on the wonderful minimalism it developed.

Among the cars I own is an A2. I love this car. It was way ahead of its time. It is incredibly frugal, superbly practical with an impressive amount of interior space. Very comfortable on long journeys and built to an exceptional standard, it really was the perfect second car. Yet Audi never persevered with it and failed to replace it. Right now, however, the venerable A2 has come into its own. I'd certainly like to see aluminium used in mainstream cars rather than just the R8, A8 and TT.

I lament the loss of Martin Winterkorn, who now heads up the VW Group. I regret Audi's drive to global domination. Hell bent on producing as many models in as many categories as possible, you can't help feeling that no individual model now has the same care and attention lavished on its development as previous icons did. I have had a deep affection for Audi ever since the original Quattro first appeared. I desperately want to see the brand regain the focus that only the R8 seems to have.

[Zyklon5]

The A3 range will definitely grow as there is planned an A3 Sedan too. Let's hope they bring some fresh and original design ideas to the table.

The lineup could be:

A3 Cabrio
A3 Hatch (present day coupe)
A3 Avant (present day sportback)
A3 Sportback
A3 Sedan

[andreadebi]

It's interesting how the Golf /A3 category of cars is growing in size and weight. This new A3 looks very close in size to the old B6 A4. I guess this will make room for the A2 and A1 below it. What worries me about Audi at the moment is its increasingly cookie-cutter approach to car design. Everything now looks like the current A4, including the new A8, A5 Sportback, and now this. I'd like to see a bit more originality within Audi's overall design language and much greater uniqueness across models.

Before Bangle arrived at BMW, the Munich marque had a notable set of design signatures that were translated to each model in different ways. The 'Hofmeister knik' of the rear 3/4 window, the double headlamps, the kidney grille, shoulder crease, and so on. What made new models interesting was different interpretations of these elements. Bangle ignored them if not destroyed them and in doing so allowed Audi to eclipse BMW in so many ways.

I absolutely adored Audi's minimalist Bauhaus design pioneered by the TT. The subsequent models that leveraged the signatures developed by Martin Smith/ Freeman Thomas in the A2, C5 A6, and B6 A4 represented what I believe was the high watermark of Audi design.

I am not a fan of the single frame grille. It is a gaping hole on the face of a dear friend. The Rosemeyer concept, which also had a single frame grille, was much more attractive. I guess what I'm saying is that I don't like Walter Da Silva's work: too many fussy details that detract from the whole. I may be alone in my view, but I think design is an incredibly important part of why people buy cars and I see Audi loosening its hold on the wonderful minimalism it developed.

Among the cars I own is an A2. I love this car. It was way ahead of its time. It is incredibly frugal, superbly practical with an impressive amount of interior space. Very comfortable on long journeys and built to an exceptional standard, it really was the perfect second car. Yet Audi never persevered with it and failed to replace it. Right now, however, the venerable A2 has come into its own. I'd certainly like to see aluminium used in mainstream cars rather than just the R8, A8 and TT.

I lament the loss of Martin Winterkorn, who now heads up the VW Group. I regret Audi's drive to global domination. Hell bent on producing as many models in as many categories as possible, you can't help feeling that no individual model now has the same care and attention lavished on its development as previous icons did. I have had a deep affection for Audi ever since the original Quattro first appeared. I desperately want to see the brand regain the focus that only the R8 seems to have.

fantastic reading-interpretation-cues (as always),I quote you!